I used to take 150mg Zoloft daily for almost a decade. The only thing it did for me was make me puke up the first two meals of my day. I didn't even feel like a zombie. I was still depressed and often suicidal. When I realized my therapist and psychiatrist duo wasn't listening to me or even offering good support, I stopped treatment.
Fast forward 2.5 years to now and I feel the same now as I did then (only I can keep my food down now). Despite that, I've developed better habits and can make it through tough days. My only issue is:
I can't feel happiness.
I can't even remember the last time I was truly happy. My mind seems to keep me in a place of constant melancholy often associated with dread, hopelessness, and anxiety. I can ignore it, but when I am out with friends or family, I am incapable of having fun. All of my laughter and smiles are faked.
I've heard before that SSRIs can permanently fuck up your brain. Is it true? Am I fucked? Was this done to me on purpose?
Not sure if this says anything, but the US military won't recruit anyone who has been on SSRIs for over 6 months
Jordan Robinson
As in, having EVER been on SSRIs for 6 months or currently being on SSRIs for the most recent 6 months?
If you're on SSRIs for 6 months+ and you run out of them, you will go through withdrawal and probably end up killing yourself.
Christian Gomez
that sounds terrible user
I will pray for you
Connor Rogers
You might have the effects of the drugs mixed up with the effects of being woke in a world of blue-pilled normies.
Alexander Morris
SSRIS are tranquilizers meant to rape goyim brains as israelites do the same to the country
Ian Cox
>daily >for 10 years >all it did was make me puke jesus christ are you actually fucking retarded?
Leo James
Yah probably. Prozac wasn't even developed for depression. They were just trying to sell a shitty drug. I feel the same way OP. Have been on too many anti-psychotics and SSRIs to even remember them all. Now i feel brain fried.
Leo Gutierrez
I feel exactly the same way OP. Life is mostly just annoyance, anxiety, and anger.
I find that if I exercise every day, meditate, and stay away from any kind of addiction, I can feel pretty good , but of course, this is an impossible to keep up when you need to spend the majority of your waking hours wagecucking to survive.
Nolan Reyes
just stopped taking SSRIs after about a year and a half on my own accord fuck that shit, didn't do shit still can't feel shit and every day is still shit
Jace Kelly
>I can't feel happiness.
>I can't even remember the last time I was truly happy. My mind seems to keep me in a place of constant melancholy often associated with dread, hopelessness, and anxiety.
That's what they call 'depression', user. Was zoloft the only AD you tried? There are non-SSRI AD's, like Wellbutrin.
All you literally have to do to cure this is go out site and exercise.
Bentley Bennett
Depression is a meme. Everyone's brain chemistry is radically different. They dish out chemical imbalance diagnosis based on 15 question quizzes. Doctors get kick backs for prescribing this shit.
Aaron Morales
on the plus side, at least your vocabulary wasn't affected
Kayden Lopez
Generally with depression here's what I see: >lmao depression isn't real fag, you're just sad and >DEPRESSION IS REAL AND IMPOSSIBLE IT'S HOPELESS
See, battling depression is like doing physical therapy after a car wreck. Yeah, it's going to hurt like hell, but you have to stomach it if you want to walk again. The same idea applies with depression. Yeah, no shit you're going to feel down, but you still have to force yourself out of bed to improve your life or you will still be depressed.
You probably just did the SSRI and made little attempt at fixing shit. Now you fixed some shit but stopped taking the SSRI. Fixing shit and not doing the drugs, works for some people but not for everyone.
You should get back on the drug with the new changes. If that doesn't work, then switch the agent.
>I've heard before that SSRIs can permanently fuck up your brain. Is it true? Yes, but it's better than depression.
>Am I fucked? No.
>Was this done to me on purpose? Probably not.
Just keep with the habits and get back on the meds. t. pharmacist.
Oliver Martin
That is not going to make the world full of woke red-pilled people suddenly.
Jeremiah Brown
Get a pet. Will add purpose to your life outside of yourself. Will lead to happiness and fulfillment. Best of luck user
Julian Ortiz
Why does the world have to be full of them?
Why not just surround yourself with them?
Nolan Sanchez
try lamictal? its an anti-seizure drug. its what I'm on. A+ fuck ssri's
Christian Nelson
I was on SSRI's briefly in 2008 and 2013. They were shit, never felt any benefit. I developed panic attacks while on them. I take benzos now which are much much better
Thomas Gonzalez
or he'll just neglect the pet, make it depressed, an then be even more depressed.
Start with a cat or some guinea pigs and not a dog if you do this.
Joseph Clark
>I take benzos now which are much much better
Not long term, they aren't.
Sebastian Brooks
Peterson covers this quite nicely. Happiness is either anticipatory (dopamine) or consumatory (serotonin).
Do you feel good about moving closer to accomplishing your goals? Do you feel good and sated after a nice meal?
If it was the latter the SSRIs should have helped as they affect serotonin. Given that they didn't help I figure it's your dopaminergic systems that are fucked up. Do you have any meaningful goals? (A good way to test if your system works would be cocaine but it's illegal so I don't recommend it) (also it's very addictive and that's not really something you need in your life).
Jacob Thomas
Smug self righteous fucktards like you make me depressed.
Jacob Harris
I took paxil for two years, been off for almost a year now and feel much better than I did when I was on it and before I ever took them Quit because paxil has a crazy withdrawal sickness and I didn't want to take it forever
David Gonzalez
Ever been on them and they won't. Yes you are permanently fucked. Yes it was done on purpose it's a form of population control/brainwashing. Either you go cray and do mass shooting (political points) You go cray and off yourself (less white people) Or you are dysfunctional and become a leftist because they offer free gibs and you physically can't provide for yourself (confirmed lifetime leftist dem voter created)
Big pharma does this all the time.
There is a way out but don't kill yourself or the Jews win. With proper super foods omega 3 and vitamin b supplements and Time the effects of the damage can be reduced.
Also weed helps some people just don't get addicted and become a degenerate (and yes you can get addicted to weed just like anything else).
.t someone else who had this shit
Cooper Young
I'm not on SSRIs and I can't feel happiness either so I wouldn't worry about it too much senpai.
Jace Nguyen
There are zero red-pilled woke people within 400 kms of me.
Being surround by them wouldn't help the children in Gaza either, and if you aren't depressed about that shit then there is something wrong with you.
Joseph Howard
it's just a molecule that upregulates seratonin, or attempts to anyway. stop taking it and you'll go back to the way you were.
Isaac Ross
I used to work on an indian reservation in a position that managed millions of dollars of natural resources that literally had thousands of users.
The reservation was rife with intense drug use, death, and pedophilia. I happened on two kids one day in an alley that were cuddled up to their rotting parents that had died a few days earlier (according to ME after the fact) and they didn't realize they were dead or they were in shock.
I used to see people shooting up all kinds of drugs while they shoved their children away as they tried to stop their parents.
I did that job for years, mostly what I did was deal with meth heads because they were the most intense users (rapers) of the natural resources.
I got on Celexa, it worked very well for me until I got out of that situation and didn't live and work in the asshole of the entire universe.
Lincoln Myers
Here in Canada they just won't let you in if you've been on them in the last 6-12 months. The reason why is if you're deployed somewhere and don't have access to meds, you need to still be able to function. As a result you can't serve if you have a need to daily meds.
Kevin Butler
good advice.
James Foster
I was on prozac for about 4 to 5 months.
it was situational at best but it just curves or softens what life throws at you. i only resorted to prozac after attempting to live a healthier lifestyle, diet, sleep, working out.
anyway, this will change your brain chemistry, especially for longer periods. the result was me just stopping cold turkey after 40mg daily.
its more important to be able to go through life as it should be, especially if you are not completely positive that you have a chemical imbalance.
Ryder Powell
Self righteous how?
Andrew Gutierrez
>I can't feel happiness.
>My mind seems to keep me in a place of constant melancholy often associated with dread, hopelessness, and anxiety.
Volunteer, exercise, put the phone away, and exercise some more. Disconnect from the net for a few days and actually do something with your life. Travel if you can. Pick up a hobby or take up a new skill. If you feel like you have no purpose, go to church.
Luke Carter
Grow the fuck up you poncy cunt
Mason Brown
you are a fecking idiot and don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Nolan Harris
OP consider this post as well.
Maybe you should change careers and move to a new state? A suggestion.
Wouldn't recommend a new country as you really need to have your shit together before ex patriating.
Bentley Diaz
I had a 14 year old girl come into my office one day and tell me about how her brother had just stolen everything from her house to pawn it for drugs.
Then as she's telling that story, she broke down and started telling me how her dad would fuck her...............that broke me pretty good too.
I couldn't even tell local authorities, I had to report it to the feds, you tell locals and you will get drug out in the wood because everyone is related and is hush hush on kiddy diddling.
I knew the little girl because she used to volunteer for my department, I'd get to work with her out in the woods and teach her about harvesting natural resources. Really stabbed me in the heart, had to make her leave my office because I was about to break down in front of her.
Nathaniel Sullivan
>brain chemistry Everyones' brain chemistry is exactly the same. The associations are what is radically different.
Colton Long
White people are really too compassionate to deal with shitskins. The Chinese can HAVE africa. Their lack of souls is perfectly adapted to that horror show.
Austin Ramirez
>Was this done to me on purpose? No, you're not that important.
Jonathan Parker
this.
weed is degenerate but it makes me actually feel pleasure from doing things, but the trick is to make those things productive rather than being a vegetable watching tv all day
also, I generally smoke most days for 1-2 months, and then avoid smoking altogether for 10-30 days depending on how much I was smoking. I try to chain the detox days when I feel my mood elevating so I can have a clear mind, then start smoking again when I start getting depressed again or when I hit the bottom of my depression if I abstained that long.
Using marijuana responsibly isn't inherently degenerate. What's degenerate is abusing it and the type of lifestyle it encourages. You need to force yourself to be strong enough to overcome those things. If you do so, it can be an effective tool. Ask yourself this, are you a more positive influence on society when you're extremely depressed and sober, or when you've smoked a little bit and use your elevated mood to better yourself? Depression is the ultimate degeneracy.
James Ward
How would cocaine be a test?
Asher Parker
>>Was this done to me on purpose? >Probably not.
You mean "probably" There's a lot of shit people in the world, and pharma is no exception.
Standard practice: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_&_Co.#Vioxx >Merck had a list of doctors critical of Vioxx to be "neutralised" or "discredited." "We may need to seek them out and destroy them where they live," wrote an employee. Also alleged were intimidation of researchers and impingement upon academic freedom
And in case you're given that shit as a kid, biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-244X-14-48.pdf " evidence is slowly emerging that the long-term effects of drug exposure are delayed and come to expression once the vulnerable system reaches maturation (i.e., typically during adulthood)."
You probably just don't have any real purpose in life, get some, stick to it, have a family.
Dominic Lewis
>2011
As the HuffPo article points out, it was passed that any money or gifts (literally a pen) have to be reported.
So that shit is illegal. There sure as shit are kikes who are greedy and pull that shit under the table, but I think probably is going far.
Juan White
It would not surprise me in the slightest if a majority of the pills are given out purely because the ones prescribing them get extras for it. And of course, shit doesn't even work most of the time. The effectiveness of SSRIs is as far as I am aware just slightly above the effectiveness of placebo pills.
Shit didn't help me either, and I stopped bothering when the quack didn't take me seriously
Elijah Murphy
Yeah, just don't cocaine as a test for anything other than answering the question, "Am I addicted, or can I get addicted, to cocaine?" - the test result is always "yes".
Nicholas Thomas
Just curious, has anybody here with depression tried ketamine?
Michael Richardson
>10 years Jesus fucking Christ - what did you think was gonna happen? It's going to take your brain about as much to recover.
I used Protopic for 2.5 years because of mild eczema, and it took me 6 months after stopping it, to get rid of the rebound eczema.
You'll probably be okay in the long term, but you're just going to have to deal with the rebound/withdrawal. Its similar to "every action has an equal/opposite reaction".
Ayden Bell
I'm on ssri's and have been for a year, they turned my life around. I can feel happiness for days in a row and I go out more and I was able to find a job.
I find that when I forget to take it for a day I feel the anxiety and intrusive thoughts crawl in.
Also they haven't ruined my sexlife if that's any importance to you.
Aiden Jenkins
o yea good point
a relationship i had was ruined because i couldn't cum once i started taking SSRIs
Owen King
1 at least 5 times as many women take SSRI's as men. 2. SSRIs make most women who take them lose interest in sex and relationships.
How are men supposed to form families with these women who by some reports make up 35% of the female population.?
What's everyone's opinion on adderall for depression? How do I go about getting it... i fucking hate tc and ssri.
Benjamin Parker
Oh yeah. The only time I feel a glimmer of enjoyment out of anything is when I'm intoxicated. I was a borderline alcoholic last year but my drinking is pretty much in check now aside from the occasional night where I drink a little too much. Haven't had a hangover in months.
I prefer weed. I can't get addicted to it because I literally can't afford it except once every few months or so. I just finished my latest quarter a day or so ago. I can still feel the THC/CBD in my system and I'm going to miss it when it's gone.
CBD worked for me too, but it is more expensive and less potent than the illegal substance. So... I opt for the leaf.
Weed really has helped with my depression. It's just that I can't get medical in this state (MD) for anxiety/depression unless I convince a doctor that I have PTSD. I'm feeling pretty positive that it will be legal recreationally soon, however seeing as medical dispensaries are opening up statewide next month. Either that or street prices are going to plummet.
Brayden Nelson
>You probably just did the SSRI and made little attempt at fixing shit. Now you fixed some shit but stopped taking the SSRI. >Fixing shit and not doing the drugs, works for some people but not for everyone. After 10 years of therapy/psychiatry my doctors concluded my depression is hereditary and chemical. It has nothing to do with my lifestyle.
My grandfather on my dad's side had depression, my grandmother on my mom's side has depression, and my grandfather on my mom's side was a textbook alcoholic. My sister also has been diagnosed with depression and is currently taking medication. Hope it works out for her.
Noah Gray
Took SSRIs for a year and a half. It changed my life and allowed me to feel relaxed and blissful. I'm at the withdrawal stage right now, life is tougher but I know how happy I can be. It gives you a goal to reach.
Remember: change your habits. I quit porn, sugar, carbs, negative people, negative habits, etc. I'm a new person, in a good way. Godspeed user.
I take this shit for OCD without it I'm fucked, works well and I don't feel any different. Does this effect depression differently than OCD? Is my brain getting destroyed? I hear it promotes neurogenesis, is this true?
Ryan Barnes
kek
Caleb Flores
This sadly makes alot of sense.
Parker Adams
Fuck, man. I told my therapist/psychiatrist about how the Zoloft was making me vomit and they said it's either that or the depression. When I told them about how I was having trouble sleeping at night, they practically jumped at the opportunity to give me benzos.
Evan Adams
>weed is degenerate but it makes me actually feel pleasure from doing things, but the trick is to make those things productive rather than being a vegetable watching tv all day I have so much fun cleaning while stoned and listening to podcasts/music. My friends who are actual stoners think I'm crazy for "wasting time while high doing something boring". Sucks for them.
Owen Smith
It's hereditary, you mongoloid. Read the thread.
Lucas Watson
that sounds fucked
same here i can stand getting stoned and sitting on a couch doing nothing or playing some shit tier stoner game
Bentley Turner
Just don't go cold turkey on ssri's. You'll get brain freezes. So yes they do.
Luis Barnes
Almost any drug you take can destroy you. Body can build an addiction to it or disrupt the natural process where you can be dependent on the drug, especially drugs that affect brain chemistry.
Lincoln Lee
>All of my laughter and smiles are faked. I don't know how you manage this. I could never fake it. I took these for a while and got no real effect, not even a negative side effect. The dosage was increased over time until I had a falling out with my family and I stopped taking them cold turkey.
The withdrawals were pretty bad but afterwards I don't really feel any different. I like arguing on Sup Forums and it feels good to learn new things and have something to look forward to in life. I think things are easier if people just accept that they are not funny and that I am not made happy by simple pleasures.
I would not say that I have ever been suicidal but you see my point. I make no effort to hide my reactions to things because Sup Forums has taught me not to care. People still mistake everything I say for the kind of simple platitudes or waffling they expect, and mostly just express confusion whenever I say anything about anything. It's like I am speaking a different language, or so they claim.
My parents often become extremely angry because they do not understand anything I say. Some strangers don't understand either, but I don't have this problem with the majority of people. I would say the main source of "depression" I've felt over the years is total alienation that seems to have come mainly from my family. It is a strange situation to be in and I don't know if yours is similar, but just learning to put your thoughts on paper and having them be understood has been a massive improvement for me.
For some reason, even when asking my opinion on something my parents will smugly disagree with what they expected me to say rather than what I said, and when questioned on the inconsistency they become completely incensed. It takes just seconds for them to escalate a conversation to screaming (literally screaming) insults. Growing up living with them was nightmarish and I will never not be a recluse as a result, but virtually all strangers have been amicable.
Owen Edwards
why didnt you protect that smile?
Christopher Wright
Elaborate on what you mean with cocaine?
Memepression guy here. I took cocaine onve and it had no effect on me
Lucas Flores
Yep I felt happiness for a few days after which I hadn't experience d in years
Didn't take much either
Ian Russell
>pills make you throw up >keep taking them for a decade
That was your body trying to warn you that (((Zoloft))) is bad news.
Jose Powell
Unchecked mental illness damages the brain too
Joshua Ross
>I feel the same now as I did then >I can't feel happiness WEW
Nathan Long
Did all that vomiting fuck your teeth up?
Kayden Turner
From what I understand altering your brain at all until it's fully developed might have consequences. Which is reasonable if you ask me.
Gavin Nelson
Not permanent. However, you build up a "tolerance", though not in the same way as normal.
SSRIs work by blocking reputake, thereby artificially increasing the amount of serotonin in the synapse. But they don't actually generate more serotonin. So you're actually essentially using more serotonin than brain is producing. You'll have to keep increasing the dosage indefinitely unless you combine it with CBT or something. Then, you can wean yourself off the SSRI.
Actually increasing serotonin production is difficult. Serotonin cannot pass through the blood brain barrier and must be made in the brain. Idiots out there will tell you to just eat more foods high in tryptophan, because it's a precursor to serotonin. What these mouth breathers don't realize is that amino acids compete with one another for absorption into the brain, and tryptophan is low priority. So increasing the tryptophan in your meals will have no effect all. What you have to do is eat EXCLUSIVELY tryptophan rich foods (which means not getting a balanced meal).
However, even here you run into problems. Studies on rats suggested that while this method can increase your serotonin somewhat, if you absorb TOO much, the brain actually reacts by increasing its resistance, effectively creating the opposite effect.
Basically: SSRIs should only be used if your therapist has a plan to use therapy and lifestyle changes to naturally increase serotonin production. The SSRIs should only be used for a few years, while you are getting your treatment worked out.
Bentley Barnes
This is a bad idea. You can seriously end up suicidal by doing this.
I had been on SSRIs for almost ten years. Every time I suggested lowering the dose, my psychiatrist increased it. I had developed a blunted affect because of it. I stopped taking them. I tried to ween myself off, but it was still too fast. Shit got REAL bad, including physical symptoms like irregular heartbeats and vertigo.
Ultimately, if you want to get off SSRIs and your psychiatrist won't listen, just go to another psychiatrist.
Levi Edwards
Gas yourself
Austin Reed
go to music festival and eat mushrooms. You may be able to crack the code that way!
