>Since 1957, there have been 13,000 cases of child abuse by a Catholic priest in their church. >That's 240 cases a year.
>In the Protestant churches since 1957, there is an average of 260 cases. >That's 14,000 cases of child abuse by Protestant powers that be -- over 1,000 more. >And that doesn't count every denomination and the fact Protestants weren't forced to turn those numbers over like the Catholics were, the number is no doubt higher.
>From available research we now know that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases. The Christian Science Monitor reported on the results of a national survey by Christian Ministry Resources in 2002 and concluded: "Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant". Sexual abuses within the Jewish communities approximate that found among the Protestant clergy. >archive.is/FitQ
>Billy Graham's grandson confirms a greater problem >archive.is/rY861
The three major insurance companies that insure for child abuse report that Protestant abuse is just as bad as Catholic, and that secular abuse is 8 times worse than Catholic and Protestant combined. >Church Mutual Insurance Co., GuideOne Insurance Co. and Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Co Not only this, only an estimated 25% of Protestant churches have or can afford this insurance. Because of their autonomous, individual nature, there is no reporting apparatus. Also, 65% of the data is unavailable to the public because those insurance claims are considered proprietary to the individual protestant churches. So we have a crisis much larger within Protestant communities for the sheer fact that around 10% of all of them actually report their numbers, and to those that do, is almost identical to abuse in Catholic setting. >archive.is/Ay5U3 >stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/abuse_data_in_protestant_churches.html
There is a concerted effort to report as widely as possible abuse that occurs in Catholic settings than in Protestant. ... and people are more than willing to suckle the teet of the narrative rather than do the actual research.
>Why do Protestant sects abuse more children than Catholics?
1) Because Protestant churches are less full of fags and closet homos. We don't need fags coming in to subvert and destroy the Church, we did a fine job of that all on our own.
2) Better, clear, and more open support of Israel. So Jewish news agencies steer clear. I bet the rape and pedophilia rate in synagogues right now is probably 20%+. Forget about equal to Protestants, it's probably 10x because it would never get reported by (((MSM))).
3) Protestants are not celibate. Presumably because people actually want to have sex with big dick Protestants instead of shrivel dick, cuckspiracy swilling Catholcucks.
Jack Lee
#3 must've taken you some time to brew up between the walls of that skull of yours, bucko. You could also add that laity are not required to take courses on "how to spot potential abuse" in order to work in their church. Catholics, on the other hand, are, if they want to help in an official capacity. >VIRTUS The link between sodomites and the abuse crisis is irrevocable. The United States Council of Catholic Bishops has a study done every few years on the abuse crisis. The John Jay College report of 2012 showed that 81% of the abuse was homosexual related. Less than half of provable abuse was by clergymen. Of the clergy who did abuse children, it was post-pubescent boys--homosexual abuse. The Vatican has long banned ordaining homosexuals, even barring those from seminary who "support a gay culture." Bishops in the United States and around the world rebelled and allow sodomites to infiltrate the Church. That is where almost all of the problems lie when it comes to the abuse crisis--besides it being a societal issue of over-sexualization of everything.
Carson Robinson
Here you go again with your cuckspiracy swilling at the end. Just face it, we'd be better off if the clergy had to be married to a woman than was celibate.
Inb4
>Muh Vatican II
The problems go back much further than that my friend.
Nathaniel Perry
assuming it happens more because it's reported and/or caught more is pretty stupid but this is how CYA works i suppose.
zoroastrian devil worshippers, literally all the children of Abraham, Jews Muslims and Christians, are all the same kid diddling cult so who cares.
Jack Ortiz
>Jesus promotes being "eunuchs for the kingdom" >"He who is able to accept it, let him accept it." St. Paul says this also in 1 Corinthians, Chap. 7. For those who can accept it, of course.
Parker Reed
Same book different scumbags
Jason Cook
>assuming it happens more because it's reported and/or caught more The only way we have numbers is by when it is reported and proven; especially through insurance payouts. There are steps to logic. >#1 Think >#2 Think >#3 Think
James Sullivan
One post about the heretic Francis and boom, out comes the pedophile accusations about the entire Catholic Church. When evidence shows Protestant sects are much worse off in this regard; silence.
Brayden Sanchez
I've found some Lutheran and Methodist churches to be complicit in human trafficking: youtu.be/aG1Jd3PF-JU
Connor Peterson
Protestants are more likely to be inbred southerners
Jaxson Reyes
good morning the 6th thread of christcuck christian threads. Thanks for starting another one!
Nathan King
It is most definitely a systematic network that spans Church and denominational lines. One day the Catholic Church will rediscover its spine (only after severe bloody chastisement; perhaps with refugee crisis), it will again call for the State to impose capital punishment on sodomite clergy.
Nicholas Reyes
The WASP ruling class was not mainly Southerners. Although, Southern Baptists are very prevalent here in the South.
James Sullivan
The local fundie baptist church here has molested 6 kids since the 70s.
John Barnes
Was there endless news reports and outcries for monetary reparation? Did the offender get moved to a "treatment center" away from the situation? >(as per American psychiatry recommendations circa 1970-1990's)
Isaiah Hill
Protestant churches are easier to infiltrate The catholic pedophiles had to go through certain classes to become ordained as priest. To become a protestant preacher you just have to claim it.
Hudson Parker
Im a catholic The truth has nothing to do with religion. To become ordained a priest takes years Most pedophiles wont go that route they will just claim to be a minister and preacher and enter a protestant denomination.
Carter Johnson
>To become a protestant preacher you just have to claim it Yep. Remember that Bella Dodd, a leader in the Communist Party USA, testified to the US House of Unamerican Activities Committee that the CP put 1,100 Communist as well as homosexual men (that she knew about) into the seminaries and thus the priesthood. Many of those are still embedded within the hierarchy, and many of those taught in the seminaries creating a new generation of revolutionary progressives; eg, the modern Jesuits.
Also alot of IWW (((industrial workers of the world))) communist infiltrated the catholic church in the 1920's and 1930's to destroy it from the inside.
Colton Nguyen
Most pedopgiles wont learn the latin language to become priest.
This is like asking why is there more highschool dropots with grand theft auto charhes then people with bachelor degrees
Jaxson Jackson
Why not compare it to the rate of incidence among atheists?
The real redpill is that you are twice as likely to be molested by an atheist than you are by a Catholic priest.
Benjamin Hall
Alot of IWW faggots infiltrated the catholic church by pretending to protect them from the kkk. Pic related. No catholic should ever koin the IWW which was put in place by bnai brith to lead a bolshevik revolution in the usa.
Xavier Stewart
Yes, that is why Pius XII moved the Feast of St. Joseph the Worker to May 1st, as a coopting of Communists and an attempt at ordering labor correctly, outside of the Marxist framework.
Most seminaries don't even teach Catholicism before the Council; thus very, very little Latin.
Certainly, but this issue is a Protestant meme held like a sword against Catholics. It is pertinent. Secular abuse is nearly 8 times worse than all Christian abuse combined.
Evan Gutierrez
Im sure the are more atheist pedophiles then priest and ministers combined.
Ryder Reyes
Most pedophiles wont go to seminary school when its easier just to become a protestant preacher. Alot of the priest that were pedophiles and commies that did become priest switched to the episcopal church to do damage if the local catholic bishop suspected they were up to no good. This is why the episcopal church has sexually active butch lesbian priest these days because the commies got zero resistance infiltrating the episcopal church.
Juan Gonzalez
They don't. you're comparing the rcc with hundreds of other sects in ONE majority protestant country. The fact that the numbers are nearly equal is telling.
stop trying to deflect from the fact that your church is run by homosexual pedophiles.
Luis Sanchez
Great point. This also speaks to the sodomite abuse majority. Sodomites are attracted to the priesthood for the idea of celibacy; at least those who are trying to be sincere about their faith. Others see a potential bathhouse--which in many seminaries is certainly the case.
The takeaway point is that the constant barrage of the media of Catholic abuse to the detriment of abuse anywhere else is implicit bias and hatred toward the Church. This is why the media loves Francis--they perceive him to be against the teachings of the Church, which he actively works against.
There is no deflection. Even in the major abuse crisis in Ireland in the Catholic hierarchy, Protestant abuse is worse. It is because of the decentralized nature of protestantism that allows for abuse to go unchecked, which makes it incumbent upon every community to perform background checks and investigations as necessary; which is a rare phenomenon.
Kayden Smith
Because people are retarded and it's cool & edgy to shit on catholics(or other confessions for that matter,it just happen to catholics more often these days)
Not to mention the russian propaganda(this one actually happens) that goes into making catholics look bad & the misinformation.It's true that everything after VC II looks sketchy,specially after Benedict resigned, but let's not forget that the Pope is supposed to be the vicar of Christ, he's not the Church itself and as an important side-note,he still comes from south america so the stupid shit he's spouting shouldn't be surprising to anybody.
I'm not saying X is wrong and Y is right, but it's pretty disgusting and everything just proves how much (((some people))) try to incite friction between every side.I guess there's no difference between today and the 1054's mentality
Logan Perez
The real question is, why are Protestant children so much sexier than others?
Christian Robinson
Absolutely. As an ex-protestant myself, the implicit bias is a given. If a congregant were to change to any other Christian sect, it is not so much of a deal. When they leave to become Catholic--my God you may as well have genocided their community.
Wait, protestants have children?
Ethan Wilson
Protestants, especially in the US, are now judaized. The jewish race has subverted every sect of protestantism and turned them into messianic jews.
Protestants worship the jew testament fairytales instead of Jesus. These worthless stories about jews are full of genocide, human sacrifice, and multiple examples of incest. No wonder they are so violent. Catholics don't give a shit about these jew books
John Smith
>Look at cdf go , how much do you get for shilling for the pope?
Christopher Anderson
>There is no deflection the third most powerful catholic in the world and a close confident of the pope was just arrested for fucking boys in the ass and just last week a gay orgy was broken up on vatican property. You have a problem
yes, using meaningless statistics to refocus attention is deflection. The source you've given is no different than when blacks give stats as showing that most criminals in the u. s. are white while ignoring that proportionally blacks are more likely to be criminals. That's all you've done here. Sorry but it's not going to work on me. Your church has a huge problem and instead of trying yo fix it you defend them. Do you think your god will be happy with you? I really doubt it, pedo apologist
Eli Davis
>are now judaized Buddy, they began as a collection of Judaizing sects. The OT serves as a type of the NT. Still very useful. Protestants, on the other hand, without a dogmatic Church to keep order, swings like a pendulum every which way.
I'm an American traditional Catholic with five children. Get real. The CDF (especially the new head) on Sup Forums. Hah.
If you're talking about Cardinal Pell, then you, once again, fell for the media's narrative. Cardinal Pell was sent to Australia to weed out abusers many years ago. He did just that; and ruffled a LOT of feathers. He then was put in charge of Vatican finances, vowed to reform finances, then went head-to-head with Francis over it. Francis did not like what Pell was trying to do; and they were most certainly not friends. Now that the 2 year old accusations against Pell have metastasized into charges, Francis is suddenly his friend. I call BS.
Isaac James
You're an idiot. The Catholic Church has covered up more abuse then any other religion in recorded history.
They even went so far as to hide a priest who was accused of raping and murdering two women in the United States.
The Vatican is obsessed with ET life
Stop defending this pope who is convinced all of Europe to commit cultural suicide
Ryder Martin
>it's a conspiracy! the pope framed him! anything to defend your precious church. your son certainly won't forgive you when the local priest penetrates him.
Logan Rogers
Which os these sounds more natural?
>God-fearing Catholic >God-fearing protestor
?
Jackson Cruz
No one is defending this pope, genius. I'm having an honest discussion about the numbers. There is more protestant abuse and coverup than in the Catholic Church--which in many cases certainly did cover it up. The Vatican is most certainly concerned with astronomy. It always has been. Priest-scientists is nearly a two-thousand year old phenomenon.
If anything credible comes out of the Pell investigation I won't be too surprised considering the climate. But, considering how Pell has been a vocal critic of Francis for years, and that he actually rooted out pedophiles, it appears to be a witch hunt. I'm merely trying to objectively look at the evidence. Look, we know there's a sodomite problem. That isn't debated.
Justin Martin
God-fearing human.
You left that out
Thomas Lewis
If you we're having an honest discussion about child abuse you would address the massive cover-up within large churches and the government.
You should first start with the Franklin coverup. That included the Catholic Church and politicians from DC
Levi Morris
>you would address the massive cover-up within large churches and the government >and the government See Yes, it did. As the John Jay College reporting to the USCCB of 2012 showed, 81% (some put it at 85%) of the abuse was homosexual in nature. Also, over half of the abuse was done by laity, not clergy. The same goes for Protestant sects, over half of the abuse was done by the laity (youth ministers, congregants), not clergy.
What is the pattern? Oversexualization of the culture. A general decline in morals across the board. Be it Catholic or Protestant, any human element of the institution is only as virtuous as its people. When the morals of the people are debased, then those entering these institutions will also be debased.
Charles Phillips
Catholics can't stand the fact that their pedophilic inclinations are now an open secret. Thankfully the Church is in full decline in the West. People don't seem to appreciate it when their children are violated. And those of you who defend this joke of a religion should just fucking kill yourselves.
Lucas Rogers
The biggest difference is the following: 1. Protestant churches are generally decentralized with a few exceptions. It is impossible to hold 'the baptists' as a church to account because there isn't such a thing as 'the baptist church', since association to baptists are entirely voluntary and done at the individual church level.
2. The Catholic church doesn't just have a child abuse problem it has a problem that the broader church structure as a whole covers up for it. While protestant churches may have a minister pack up and jump state lines its much harder for him to use the institution to cover his tracks.
3. Per capita, Catholics make up 22% of the US population while Protestants make up more than double that. If Catholics make up the same number of child abuse cases as protestants, then you're twice as likely to be molested by a catholic priest than by a protestant one.
Not to justify child abuse or anything, but lets not draw a moral equivalency between them. I suspect that the protestant model of pastoral service is less likely to get away with molestation. Catholics need a serious leadership reform, starting with married priests.
Evan Ramirez
Not that it is an open secret--it needs to be exposed. But in an honest manner. As the Church declines, so will the West. Western civilization was coddled and birthed by the Church.
>It is impossible to hold 'the baptists' as a church to account because there isn't such a thing as 'the baptist church' Absolutely--just as there is no "Protestant Church"
>broader church structure as a whole covers up for it There has certainly been this happening. Take Cardinal Bernadine for example. Sodomites protect other sodomites.
>Per capita There are more Protestants in America than Catholics, yet in other places such as Ireland, it is reversed, and Protestant abuse is still more frequent. Not only this, 1/4th of Protestant communities actually can afford or have the insurance where we are getting these numbers. Then only a small percent of that 1/4th are actually releasing their numbers, others claim it proprietary information. So the numbers we have are greatly deflated; even Protestant researchers admit this.
Married priests is always the theme pushed as an antidote. Yet, Christ Himself called for celibacy for the Kingdom "if you can accept it." We've been answering that call since the Apostles.
I'm not an apologist for degenerates, either. Personally, I'd like to see the old discipline of execution of sodomite and pederast clergy reinstated.
Easton Bell
>The OT serves as a type of the NT. Still very useful. False. You're a fucking retard for finding anything of value in that collection of jewish fairytales and lies. That's how unbelievable goddamned cucked you are. Catholics and Orthodox don't give two shits about the jew testament save for the psalms.
The jew god ain't even the same god. In genesis 2 he's walking around looking for Adam. So much of meaning omnipresent. Oh and this torturous faggoty jew god is a jealous god. And one of his names is a plural word - Elohim which according to Sanchuniathon's Phoenician cosmology is what the followers of Saturn (Elus/Cronus) were called and they circumcised themselves.
If you believe there is spiritual value and anything of use in those kike shit stories, you are literally worshipping the jews. Might as well cut off half of your own pecker (you're American so it's probably already gone) and start wearing a yarmulke. Fucking kike piece of shit. I won't differentiate you from the yids when it comes time for the real holocaust. Death to you all and that goes for ANYBODY who values the jew testament piss and filth
Christopher Gomez
The fight against sodomite infiltration has been a constant theme. It has always been a chink in the armor. In the 11th century, St. Peter Damian wrote "The Book of Gomorrah" >a.co/a8wXllc >"For God’s sake, why do you damnable sodomites pursue the heights of ecclesiastical dignity with such fiery ambition?" >"Tell us, you unmanly and effeminate man, what do you seek in another male that you do not find in yourself?" Other quotes: catholicismpure.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/st-peter-damian-some-quotes-to-damnable-sodomites/
Ian Gray
LoL I found the B tard
Isaiah Thompson
Im sure the most sexual abuse that exist is in the jehovah's witness churches. If I wanted to take advantage of teenage girls the jehovah witness's is the easy target Id 99% percent of jehovah witness females have been molested and raped but trained not to report it to police.
Jaxon Evans
>The jew god ain't even the same god. He is, yet He revealed Himself to be Three Persons of a Trinity in one God. When the Jews rejected Christ, they rejected God thus do not worship the same God. >cf. St. John Chrysostom's Adversus Judaeos
>In genesis 2 he's walking around looking for Adam. Nowhere does it say He is "walking around." He calls out to Adam, asking where Adam is, obviously this is conveying the point that Adam was hiding from the omnipotence of God; not that God was literally unable to find him. Elohim is a title of pluralities; hence, revealed in the Trinity.
We receive the typology of Christ from the OT. The typology of the Queen Mother intercessor of the Virgin Mary from the mothers of the OT Kings, such as Solomon's mother who was Queen. (wives of Kings were not queens, it was their mothers) The typology of the eternal priesthood in the line of Melchizedek; offering of bread and wine as sacrifice. The typology of the Church in ancient Israel. The typology of the abomination of desolation in the Maccabean revolt. There is no discontinuity between the Old and the New; and saying so, makes Christ not one who fulfilled the Old, but created something out of whole cloth.
Ethan Mitchell
These statistics are garbage though because Protestants are more than double the catholic population is the US.... so if we were being completely unbiased it would be more like 26000 cases of child abuse by the catholic church compared to 14000 by the protestants even by your own statistics your more likely to be abused by a catholic than a protestant...
oh but it's totally not an epidemic and the church is totally not covering this up and *insert whataboutisms here*
fuckng kill yourself catholic shits. Ever wonder why isis never targets the vatican? hint: they're involved in human traffickng
Jordan Flores
I don't know the numbers of the JW.
I have already covered this in the number of communities that have the insurance (1/4th) and the number of those that publicly report their numbers (10-20%).
Lucas Collins
>JUST OVER 7% of Catholic priests were accused of abusing children in Australia between 1950 and 2010 but the allegations were never investigated. >but the allegations were never investigated Hence why Pell was sent to attempt at weeding out offenders.
I would like to see the actual numbers there of accused and proven, but honestly I am not surprised. You keep pretending that I am saying nothing is happening.
Robert Thompson
>Yet, Christ Himself called for celibacy for the Kingdom "if you can accept it." We've been answering that call since the Apostles. Exactly. There's always the possibility of being celibate, depending on your level of compromise. Understandably, not many people would be capable of doing that.
Cameron Smith
I'm not sure you understand: the numbers we have to work with concerning Protestant abuse is 10-20% of 25%. That comes to 0.05% of Protestant sects reporting their numbers. If we're conservative with the numbers, let's make it 1%. >pic of post responding to
Joseph Wilson
Again--the numbers that we have for Protestant abuse is deflated because of decentralization, autonomy, lack of abuse insurance, or refusal to publish numbers calling it proprietary. This is a common thread in the research such as in archive.is/Ay5U3#selection-877.0-877.224
That's just what we have to work with.
Luke Walker
Then, if we break it down to statistical likelihood of abuse, children are much more likely to be abused by sodomite clergy (of course). And even more likely to be abused by laity (heterosexual and/or homosexual) than a clergyman.
This is the case for both Catholic and Protestant.
Isaac Rivera
Yeah... you have no idea why your posts keep getting deleted, huh.