What do you guys think about Alsace-Lorraine as either rightful german land or french?

what do you guys think about Alsace-Lorraine as either rightful german land or french?

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Why not make it independent and send all the immigrants there?

it is too pure to spoil with shit skins

We're french, no matter what you grossgermanium memers think

French. France's natural border in the Rhine, since the time of the Gauls.

German
Why not send them all back home?

They're already here, it's one of the most enriched place

They'll just come back.

god I wish most countries fucked up migrants like Russia

North Germany = Danish clay
West Germany = Dutch clay
East Germany = Polish clay
South west Germany = French clay
South east Germany = Austrian clay

The German problem is no more.

Times of the Gauls are over. You are defeatist niggers now and been so for a very long time.
journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1001373

>The * in Switzerland indicates that the three populations available from this country have variable estimates: Swiss-Germans show no evidence of African mixture, Swiss-French 0.5±0.2% and Swiss-Italians 1.6±0.2%. The ‘+’ sign in Italy indicates that multiple samples were available but all show evidence of African mixture.

They can't come back, if you have racial laws and DNA based citizenship (which many German politicians proposed back in the 1980s....)

What about Bavaria?

i cant take you seriously when you use the word "clay" instead of land.

French. Destroy Jewmoney.

Slesvig and Holstein belongs to Denmark you fucking faggot OP.

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We have already lots of turks and we've been latety flooded by french.
I feel like it's almost forbidden to be an alsacian in Elsass.
Also we are germans.

shouldn't

Nigel Ashkesephardson, fuck off. Enjoy your Blue, Red and White Brexit. You'll always need more immigration. GLOBAL and FAIRer Britain;)
We Germans tend to trot that out in order to troll each other (like Amerishargs do) but it's not serious, although they will deny that.
Bavaria is in a bad state in urban major areas (although they will deny that), conned by Merkel's CSU boys and a multiculturalist hell hole. Actually, Franconia voted to leave Bavaria as a new state (legal under the German constitution, unlike separatism) and the supreme court banned it at the behest of the Bavarian government.
2015 was the year to leave for anyone who wa serios and it did not happen; if it would happen NATO gobalists would crack down on any such attempt. Think of all the spy stations etc especially in West Germany.

German
London to Pakis ? british problem Solved ?

You want to talk about the quality of Russian people gene pool you Slavic subhuman ?

Thanks Vladimir.

Deutschland Uber Alles!

You are literally Berber/Portuguese/Terrone/Catalan/Jew-admixed mongrel with no future. Normandy, Bretony and Alsace should be rescued by Germany when it's Reborn

doest it matter? both are gonna ruin it anyway

They're closer to Germany, but let's be honest, maybe you should have united your country earlier.

Clearly a rightful German land. They fucked the French good in the Franco-Prussian war so they deserve that land.

me looking at this thread

>german
>french
O.P., both states are currently illegitimate as they're attempting wipe out their populations by massive non-white immigration combined with "assimilation." This means the area is completely up for grabs.

your mom = my clay

Not sure - neither countries deserve it. Give it to the Czech Republic or something.

über alles in der Welt!

Rightful SWISS clay.
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It´s one of two landscapes in France, which arent infected by arabs.


But poles and czech people...

Goes to Austria
Asiatic filth
There is no British problem in Europe now Brexit has happened, you can live without us

Only Alsace should be German as it historically has been
Most natives to Lorraine are either Frenchisized Swabians or French settlers.

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Germany is a fake country, not even 150 years old, stop larking and return your clay to the true owners

A fucking joke. You dumb ass cunt, Switzerland used to be German-dominated state with French minority and literally oppressed Ticino Italian spics that knew their place before the 1960s. It was a proper Germanic state. The AVERAGE NATIVE Swiss is NOT RICH. Banks, few individuals (many of whom are not native) and corporations are. Switzerland is everincreasingly socialist diverse shithole. nu/pol/ thinking Switzerland is good is part of the problem and a clear LARP. Full of Portuniggers, Albos, Serbroaches and Italospics. Naturalized several nogs and gooks by voting as early as 1980s. Could have been homogenous, but no. Now some fucking subhuman naturalized tamil (descent of toilet cleaners with australoid blood) lectures the native races about possible African infiltration while wearing the SVP badge.

The only good option - kicking out Ticino(or better yet cleansing it from Italians) and repatriating non-Germans/Northern descendant French

Before you bring up CH, - fucking travel around it and talk with the natives. I spend there two month a year on average there, and there is not much good to be said about Switzelrand

>be english
>descendant of German tribes who conquered modern-day England
>hates Germany, the land of his ancestors
Why are """redpilled""" English nationalists so rootless?

Alsace-Lorraine is just a small part of the geographical claim Nature gave to France

Why give a beautiful peace of land to Germans?
I would rather not imagine Gdansk or any other place under Germans. Just look at Frankfurt or Berlin.

Some parts are so fucking mixed I don't know what to think anymore.

They do French wines with German names. Some tows are 90% German but people speak a mixture of German and french. Food is a complete mixture of both.

"Anglo" untermenschen, please. Stop bullshiting honest people. We all know what kind of subhumans posts from Britain. From mulattos to part jews and part gypsies to trannies. Just open Brit/shit/. 8million non-whites in Britain, James. More than in Germany or Sweden. Highest rate of race-mixing in the Western world. 90+% of all adult negros in your country are in relationships with non-blacks, mostly white. More biracial children than any other Western country

It's serbian

France is a fake country
There is no clear race or tribe of France because you're a mix of Franks, Gaulls, Iberians, Latins, Norwegians et.c
Either way, the former Burgundian and HRE provinces are all rightful Germanic clay.

tl;dr
>I'm swiss btw

Fuck off England has nothing to do with Germany, Germany isnt even 150 years old meanwhile England is over 1000 years old

>It´s one of two landscapes in France, which arent infected by arabs.
It's actually one of the most infected region.

Alsace is and was actually German, Lorraine was just a spoil of war with a minor German presence, but a good industrial area.

>France is a fake country
Oldest country of Europe, and you ? Sweden YES !
>There is no clear race or tribe of France because you're a mix of Franks, Gaulls, Iberians, Latins, Norwegians et.c
That's technically true, but that's also true of Italy, the UK, Spain and even Germany to some extent (Bavarian and Austrian people are not racially Nordic).
>Either way, the former Burgundian and HRE provinces are all rightful Germanic clay.
Burgundia has always been a French clay with French people ruling and being ruled. It's still the name of a French region actually.

My great grandfather was from Alsace-Lorraine and fought for Germany. 100 years ago the vast majority of the people there either spoke German or both languages, so if you just go by that, I'd consider it German, but I assume most people these days really just identify as French. I think what matters is the sense of belonging, if they want to be French, so be it.

Russia is the least European nation in Europe, highest Muslim percentage huge amount of Asian genes litera shitskin, most blacks who have white gf in this country is with Slavic girls, over 30% of polish girls in England have black bfs says a lot About your so called kinsfolk

>Fuck off England has nothing to do with Germany
No, not anymore because unionism has cut all ties and barely even teach English children about where the Angle-Saxons came from.

>Germany isnt even 150 years old
No it is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany
This was the forebearer to the HRE, a German nation.

Russians are Slavs in name only, Britshit. It's mostly Baltic-Nordic-Finns speaking Slavic language. As far as Britain goes, you are the only (actually European in race) nation without a solid ethnic nationalist movement

>Oldest country of Europe
san marino was founded in 301AD
good try though

Only 15% of Alsatians want their independence for 85% who want to stay French.

Gay lefty Bavarian here.

There is no such thing as 'rightful clay'. We are One World.

>That's technically true, but that's also true of Italy, the UK, Spain
True, Spain should wipe it's moorish leftover population out and breed forward the purest of the Iberian Celtic race.
I feel the same way about Italy
The UK should be disbanded and England should return to it's Germanic roots and enter a Pan-Germanic federation in my opinion.
And yeah, it is true about Germany
Lots of Germans are leftover Celts after the Germanic conquest, I think they should be outbred by pure Germanics.

Alsace is a cultural exception and anyone telling you otherwise doesn't really lives there. Also we're closer to Germans but kind of improved version. 's gilt !

>I think they should be outbred

Sex is not a competition. Sex is intimacy and emotion.

Germany should cease to exist!!!!!!!!

got me good

it is rightfully Burgundian land you dumbfucks

pic related should've been its own country, instead of switzerland.

this

Altogether around 1 million Anglo Saxons, Vikings, Normans and other Germanic tribes moved to England, Britain as a whole had 2 million people at that time so only 50% was Germanic, if we only count England its around 60% Germanic as Y DNA shows, but that still means 40% of English have non Germanic Y DNA and other 40% would be native. Considering majority of Welsh Scots and Irish have non Germanic y DNA the majority of Britain is non Germanic.
>pan-Germanic Union
It would just end up with Germany trying to dominate and rule over the rest like usual.

BURGUNDIAN!? HAH, IT WAS NEVER BURGUNDIAN, IT WAS SWABIAN, GET TAE FUCK

>The UK should be disbanded and England should return to it's Germanic roots and enter a Pan-Germanic federation in my opinion.

"no"

I'd much rather be an Englishmen with a British identity than with a Germanic one.

>The UK should be disbanded and England should return to it's Germanic roots and enter a Pan-Germanic federation in my opinion.
England was Celtic before being Germanic.
The Britons were celtic, then came the Anglp-saxons, then the Norwegians, then the Normans (French people). England surely isn't purer than France.

Conquered by the Goths and the Byzantines

>he doesn't know about the treaty of verdun

see. Alsace was never Burgundian.

the Angles were the best thing to happen to the British Isles.
The Jutes and Saxons are a bunch of southern fannies, but I have respect for the Angles.

>England surely isn't purer than France.
It is farther away from the non-white races, if that counts, user.

Lotharingia

This is the treaty of Verdun. Tip, use your fucking eyes, it was NEVER part of Burgundy. Get the fuck over it, it's SWABIAN clay.

wrong

Nothing. I don't gaf about cuckland ("Europe") they made their own bed so, let them lie

Half of Alsace has been Burgundian.

wrong both strasbourg and Alsace were in burgund
back to your
>holy
>roman
>empire

Its French, Bavaria should also be allowed to be a separate nation

The three nations of France

>Treaty of Mersen.

English people are like 25% germanic at most, the rest being celtic.

last time i tried to imply france was anything other than france, i had some french cunt shouting "FUCK REGIONALISTS" with his garlic breath in my face.

>treat of go fuck yourself verdun predates it

The current nation of France

Give back Rosselló you filthy gavatxs.

>Treaty of predating doesn't make it more legitimate you dipshite.
What's your issue with it being part of Swabia anyway?

Also I count 4 regions there nigger.

>what's your issue with it being part of a barbarian nation
the
>holy
>roman
>empire
gee idk user

>'s gilt !

The Roussillon along with the rest of Catalonie is the rightful clay of France. Also, give back the rest of Navarre spanipoor.

I actually live there, in Metz, there are a lot of german coming/living here, and their influence is there with no doubts, we actually still have special laws because of our german past, I'd say the French just because that's what I am but both have their points

hey frenchman, want to make a deal?

Get the fuck out of Austria you dirty shitskin.

's gilt

Catalogne*
The green one is what Rome took from the yellow one.

Yes, my family heritage came from there :(

>proud austrian
>family tree goes back to the 600s
>always south of the danube
>barbarian shitskin
lmao no