Why do liberals say stuff like "Im on the right side of history", and "are kidding me!". What makes liberals so sure that their moral compass is more true than someone elses just because they virtue signal about muh refugees and free shit?
I would really like to see a deep psychological analysis of the mind of a liberal and what makes then tick.
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>Why do liberals say stuff like "Im on the right side of history"
Because the future trends towards liberal. Or do you think that slavery will be reinstated and the right to vote taken from women and minorities? I promise you: unless the entire country ends, that will not happen.
Imagine if you just listened to the first thing you heard about something everytime you found something new.
You'd be a Democrat, and you'd have no interest in widening the overton window.
Also, somehow I think people started mixing up The State and God...the world is so fucked up right now...Lord help us.
It has less to do with left wing economics and more to do with social policy. Those in favor of things like ending slavery, starting social security and Medicare, ending segregation and shit like that are viewed as being correct today. Economics on the other hand is up for debate. There's no real right side of history on that. Because you have people with super progressive policies economically, like fdr, go down as being good on the economy, and also progressive on economy Jimmy Carter being remembered as not so good. Same thing on the right. Reagan was good with the economy, while bush jr was shit.
The segregate themselves from racial conflict while adulating over teh very same minorities they won't allow in their schools or to live in their neighborhoods.
Schizophrenia or pathological lying is the only explanation.
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I never knew that modern conservatives believed slavery shouldn't have been abolished.
Society becoming more liberal means accepting everything that looks good on paper and gives you immediate good feefees.
It is a religion. Most people don't realize this.
One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the people who affirm leftist beliefs think of their views as the only way to properly think about life.
That, in turn, explains why anyone who opposes leftism is labeled anti-intellectual, anti-progress, anti-science, anti-minority and anti-reason (among many other pejorative epithets): leftists truly believe that there is no other way to think.
Imagine if you just listened to the first thing you heard about something and then never changed your opinion for the rest of your life?
You'd be a Republican, and you'd have no interest in empathizing with another human being.
Also, somehow I think people started mixing up Money and God...the world is so fucked up right now...Lord help us.
>I never knew that modern conservatives believed slavery shouldn't have been abolished.
Bull shit. You hear it daily here and timidly muttered weekly/monthly on right-wing news outlets.
>Society becoming more liberal means accepting everything that looks good on paper and gives you immediate good feefees.
What does liberal vs conservative have to do with what looks good on paper? Are you saying that conservatives opt for things that DON'T look good on paper?
>if you don't want to take in millions of refugees , pay for my college and healthcare, you're incapable of empathy
I know you're just being a contrarian troll faggot, but surely you see the flaw in your arguement if by chance you're not
>he thinks he got me, but his political opinions havent changed since he was 16
>mfw
>right wing news outlets
Give me an example.
Slavery was a blessing to black people, otherwise they would be stuck in some mud hut making fly cakes.
>both IDs dark like nubian queens
Nice.
>but surely you see the flaw in your arguement if by chance you're not
I wonder why there are so many refugees. I wonder why college and healthcare are so expensive that some people cannot afford them. Well, it's definitely not my fault OR my problem, so fuck em!
>Slavery was a blessing to black people, otherwise they would be stuck in some mud hut making fly cakes.
If it any way made them look bad, you'd be all for it. Why bother pretending? It's obvious you're so biased that you are incapable of change.
I bet you couldn't even fake praising a minority. Your programming prevents it. But don't worry, you're a free thinker!
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educate yourselves my dudes
There are so many refugees and people who can't support themselves because of neocon globalists like Bush, Clinton, and McCain. The non neocon globalist wing of the Democratic Party is entirely neutered and only used to get votes from commies and socialists. The non neocon globalist wing of the Republican Party actually works from inside and outside the Party to get what they want.
>college is expensive
Ever heard of pell grants or financial aid? I dont have a dime to my name and Im in school.
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That's right, it's all the fault of the mean ol' globalists. Definitely not the ultra-rich, they're just good guys trying to make it in this crazy world.
Ah, and everyone else is just like you, right? All circumstances are identical, right? You can't even realize how lucky you are not to have student loans right off the bat, to be plunged into negative money.
Ayn Rand discovered the why. She knew that the creed at the core of ALL of it was the primordial evil that is Altruism.
Also; look into r/K selection theory.
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See, this is what I mean. You are likely a bernie fanatic or a green party voter who thinks the Democratic party isn't equally bought out by rich corporations and other nations because they appeal to commies sometimes, even though all their policies and actually important positions are made by neocon globalists. You're probably some bluepilled faggot who thinks we actually invaded the middle east for oil and can't see across party lines either.
Here's a list of notable neocon globalists.
Marc Andreesen, Silicon Valley venture capitalist and former Romney donor.
Dan Akerson former General Motors CEO, says Clinton has “the experience and judgment to serve as an effective Commander in chief. In this election, I will cast my ballot for Secretary Clinton.”
Hamid Moghadam, Prologis CEO and immigrant from post-revolutionary Iran, says America is about tolerance and inclusion “and that’s why, as a lifelong Republican supporter, I endorse Hillary Clinton for president in this election.”
Douglas Brand, professor of political science at the College of the Holy Cross, wrote in Fortune Magazine, “To support Trump, we must sacrifice our principles and reconcile our minds to his. Better we should follow Hamilton’s example and support an opposing party whose principles we reject—and remain a principles party of opposition.”
Michael Vlock, Connecticut investor who has given nearly $5 million to Republicans in last two years. Michael Vlock is married to Karen Pritzker, and together through they own the Hyatt brand and have significant holdings in Apple, Inc.
William Oberndorf, California-based investor.
Craig Snyder, Republican lobbyist with Ikon Public Affairs.
Mike Fernandez, a healthcare magnate and one of Jeb Bush’s billionaires in Florida.
Mark Salter, former top adviser to Sen. John McCain.
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Brent Scowcroft, foreign policy adviser to four GOP presidents.
Henry Paulson Jr. former treasury secretary under President George W. Bush.
Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state to George W. Bush.
Ken ((Adelman)), U.S. Arms Control director under Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Patrick Cronin, senior official at USAID during the W. Bush administration.
Philip ((Levy)), member of President George W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors.
Tony Fratto, W. Bush administration deputy press secretary
Kori Schake, former George W. Bush National Security official
Alan Steinberg, Bush administration regional EPA administrator.
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Notice what kind of names come up again and again.
>Here's a list of notable neocon globalists.
Who used to support the GOP, but supported hillary in the 2016 election.
You don't even bother to deny that the ultra-rich are the culprits. You honestly, truly believe that the dems are supported by the ultra-rich but that the republicans aren't?
Also, having liberal ideals or even just being a liberal doesn't make you a democrat. So what was your point here?
>Good on paper
Liberals/progressives tend to have a kindergarten mentality when it comes to fixing problems. The entire Sanders campaign was EVERYONE DESERVES EVERYTHING without any realistic method of accomplishing it
Yes, intelligent people opt for things that don't make people instantly happy, because long term outcomes are more important than pop culture optics and MUH HISTORY arguments
I have never met a white liberal that is happy white liberal. They're always dissatisfied about something it seems.
But but the bad guy in Harry Potter would have voted for Trump so like all republicans are evil okay
Empathy makes terrible public policy. Nice try burger
>You honestly, truly believe that the dems are supported by the ultra-rich but that the republicans aren't?
Holy shit, man, I spent 4 posts calling out rich neocon globalist shills who switch platforms at the drop of a hat and you think I'm pro "republican".
We could have a much greater influence over Western policy if the socialist left and nationalist right worked together on certain issues.
Neocons in both parties and neoliberals(those who pretend to be liberal, but serve corporate interests) on the left are keeping us apart from any kind of issue-by-issue co-operation, the only way to move forward is to kick them out entirely. It's just infuriating. It's gotten so bad that Republicans who don't want to go to war are labeled libertarian and Democrats who don't suck the Saudraeli cock are labeled traitors.
Oh, and one the same note. Can't be assed to make a list right now, but I'm sure you remember all the neocon/neolib shills on the democrat side initially wanting trump to win the nomination. They wanted Trump up there. They thought he had no chance of winning against Hillary, but bombarded her campaign with millions just to be safe. Globalists and their sympathizers hated him so much that they threw everything at him, which ended up backfiring and just got him more and more attention and more eyes on his messages.
You do understand the Democrats were the slavery advocates, don't you? Surely you're not just commenting without understanding what you're talking about, right?
You never need to change your answer if it's right.
This is why people are liberals when they're young, and conservatives when they're old.
Live and learn.
Some liberals just don't do the second part.
>Imagine if you just listened to the first thing you heard about something and then never changed your opinion for the rest of your life?
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>You'd be a Republican
The first thing most people hear is liberal media... Being a liberal and never changing your opinion for the rest of your life is the most popular thing you can do.
This. They still are, just now instead of the cotton plantation it is the vote plantation.
The assumption of "correct" stances on morality provides liberals with a foundation of supremacy over those who don't share their views. Much like a regular person feeling superior to a pedophile on no other information.
I'd also like to know. Why do they say "People should vote"?
The left always projects
>being this uneducated
>being this blinded by party politics
you need help m8
Fundamentally they believe in cultural Marxist thought which says that if someone is successful, their success is at the expense of someone else. You can apply this to virtually anything such as economics (muh 99%) or race relations (muh poor oppressed minorities, white privilege, etc). They have a limited worldview where everything is a zero sum game, and any successful person must have oppressed someone else.
>Why do liberals say stuff like "Im on the right side of history"
If you look at just the last 100 years, the world is generally much more liberal and progressive than it was at the beginning of the 20th century.
Also, life is generally better for most people, and that is connected to liberal and progressive values and policies.
So it's a pretty easy conclusion that liberalism equals progress and better lives for most.
Conservatism is anti progress by default. No progress means no improvement in peoples lives. Also, right wing policies are authoritarian, and authoritarianism rarely works, and if it does, it doesn't work for long and always ends in a revolution.
So yeah, liberalism is definitely "on the right side of history".
Perhaps it has something to do with an illusion of inherent superiority which negates the need, from their perspective, for critical thinking... With modern technology, it wouldn't be surprising if modern liberals just assume they're superior to people of the past and thus, just assume their feelings are correct.
Society has only ever gotten more liberal and progressive as time has gone on ... it will continue to do so and anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid. Liberals are angry because Trump wants to delay inevitable change during his tenure to please his ignorant base and get re-elected so he can continue to enrich himself and his family. This is literally the only reason.
Mostly because the majority of republicans are uneducated about policy and vote red because their church, fake news or their oversized amygdala told them they should or the bogeyman will get them
Because socity tends to grow more progressive over time.
Compare the world of 1300 BC to 1000AD then to 2010 AD.
People tend to not enjoy things like being abused, treated like shit, enslaved, and being beaten down.
So "liberals" tend to win unless any argument based on facts and reason.
Thank god for it to, otherwise you'd still be sucking British royal dick.
cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
Exhibit A: liberal stupidity
I just tried having a normal conversation with a trump supporter and she didn't know anything about anything. Basically she just was "well I'm an American. I love America" that was her only talking point. She didn't know who anyone was except Donald trump, and she couldn't describe any single conservative idea except " well all I know is we need a wall" fucking morons lol
Edit... So "liberals" tend to win any argument based on facts and reason. Which is why trump's supporters tend to punch people when proven wrong.
We punch nazis
In fact deferral of gratification is one of the hallmarks of people with high IQ and is key to saving and investing to produce wealth rather than just splurging straight away.
whether you're liberal or conservative large comes down to your personality type, I think it's something like a .65 correlation with personality tratis going by the big 5 model which is something Jordan Peterson has worked on.
Predicted by personality traits that relate to orderliness and conscientiousness, as well as disgust sensitivity. What he's proposed is that it fundamentally comes down to borders and how orderly your personality is. People high in orderlyness and high in disgust sensitivity will want to put borders between things, such as country borders, city walls, segregation, etc.
Liberals are more tolerant of being mashed together in a big mixing pot of diversity.
He has an entire series of lectures on personality that are worth watching, you can find them on youtube.
It's the Left that exercises political violence to bully and silence their opponents. Have a collection of headlines:
-Inauguration protesters vandalize, set fires, try to disrupt Trump’s oath, as police arrest more than 200
-Protesters block road ahead of Trump rally in Fountain Hills
-Chaos Erupts in Chicago After Protesters Shut Down a Donald Trump Rally
-Three arrested in California attacks against Trump supporters
-Trump supporter in NJ attacked with crowbar on street, police say
-Trump Voter Shot After Bar Political Debate Turns Violent
-Ugly, bloody scenes in San Jose as protesters attack Trump supporters outside rally
-Man who attempted to grab gun at rally wanted 'to kill Trump'
-Man who tried to rush stage at Trump rally pleads guilty
I havent yet found one thing that conservatards are right about, but have a go. I mean, if you were you wouldnt need to hide in an echo-chamber like Sup Forums with "ironic" memes as earbuds and rhetorical hugboxes like "not an argument", "shill", "kike", "0.02 dollar in your account" would you?
>Exhibit A: liberal stupidity
imagine that, a conservative ignoring facts and common sense in order to justify their own regressive world view
Things don't seem to be "progressing" very well for the Democrats
Read the G20 manifesto and you get a good idea of what these "people" believe in.
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I only pointed our your faulty reasning and the likelihood that it is a consequence, as is your liberalism, of stupidity. You don't have enough information to deduce or even presume what I am or that I hold any "regressive" world views, idiot.
It's psychopathy.
Liberals don't actually think they are right, in fact many of them know for sure they are wrong, but what they seek is social superiority through any means.
They will pretend and lie and put on a huge act all just to fool people into thinking they are superior.
Google "liberal psychopaths" and you will see this phenomenon has been studied.
Liberals literally have psychopathic traits.
I thought the g20 had a bunch of kike bankers there too.
It's a biological drive disguised as a political ideology.
Google r/K selection.
Could be. The manifesto states this:
We are living in a time of rising
nationalism and hate towards minorities. Pogroms against refugees and other
population groups beyond majority, attacks on homosexual, trans* or inter*
people as well as the significance of fanaticism of whatever persuasion are
increasing dramatically.
>I only pointed our your faulty reasning
Ok, so why exactly is my reasoning faulty?
Is society getting more liberal? Yes.
Is life generally better for most people? Yes.
If liberalism isn't a good thing, why are both of those things true?
You see, when you say shit like that, that does nothing but insult the people your trying to debate with, and uses no rational thinking, data or citation. You are dismissed with the same amount of effort you put into your argument.
IE. Fuck off retard.
This doesn't really happen, stop buying into Sup Forums straw men like an impressionable little bitch.
In other words:
>Why do trumpcucks say stuff like "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN", and "praise kek!". What makes trumpfags so irredeemably more degenerate than everyone else because they worship at the feet of another man?
>You honestly, truly believe that the dems are supported by the ultra-rich but that the republicans aren't?
Look at the campaign financing of Hillary's campaign vs. Trump's.
Huge difference.
The Democratic party is run by the ultra-rich, for the ultra-rich. The Republican party not so much.
Why don't you just google it? You can't just glance over and ignore everything you don't understand. That's probably why you're a stupid liberal in the first place.
Because society is getting better due to capitalism and free trade. It is your burden of proof also to prove that those two reason are related, not our to disprove that they aren't.
Not an argument. You dont have one so you're "pounding the table" as they'd say in the pre-meme era.
over 90% of those financiers are Jews or jewish organizations, do your research and it becomes clear.
>Liberals don't actually think they are right, in fact many of them know for sure they are wrong,
I love insane arguments like these.
It's the same thing religious people say - every atheist actually knows that there is a god, but they claim to be atheists for some reason (the reason changes depending on who you talk to).
But, I did just objectively gave you an argument you fucking retard. I'm telling you that you are doing nothing productive and saying anything of value. It is now your turn to tell me that you somehow are.
But then again your a fucking idiot liberal, why am I even bothering.
Fuck off, nobody likes you
Also note how many teenagers identify as liberals or even further. In highschool there was a couple months where I thought communism was the answer and identified as such. It was a natural progression for most kids, because they are stupid, know nothing of how the world works or the nature of man. Obviously I grew out of that shit pretty quick once I left the indoctrination factory and hit the real w9rld, but most people never do. Especially when the TV, Facebook, ND there friends are spouting constant propaganda for it.
the fundamentals of critical thinking, as outlined on the pol sticky, are widely ignored in all so-called conservative media like Murdoch's stable of clowns. Listen to these blowhards for a few minutes and if you dont feel like vomiting then there is something wrong with you.
There are no honest conservative intellectuals like Bill Buckley left anymore, we just have shit-tier demagogues like Hannity.
Plus the weird phenomenon of the closeted conservative: Drudge Breitbart Savage-Weiner Limbaugh all flaming closeted fags, it is like the catholic priesthood pedophile phenomenon
you just proved my point. thank you.
>Because society is getting better due to capitalism and free trade.
Sure, but capitalism and free trade are usually not something authoritarian dictatorships are know for, right?
Like there aren't mirror images of the person you describe on the Left.
Ever heard of the Koch brothers? Both parties are run by the rich for the rich you dickhead.
Anyway, there are differences in the brain structure of left wi gets and right wingers. Right wingers have a greater sense of fear and sights than left wingers. Source: google.
>REEEEEEE dont trigger me or I will refuse to talk to you
Is not an argument, buddy
Democrats are a party. Liberalism is a political ideology. Bernie sanders is a progressive socialist trying to sway the democratic party from its current neoliberalism. If we want to get real technical, most of these people who vote Democrat aren't liberal but moderate to extreme authoritarian leftists.
Trump was an outsider that nobody wanted both left and right. Jeb was their Hillary. Neoconservatives and neoliberals man. Same shit, one just pretends to think you should bake the cake and the other doesn't. Then they meet at the bars laughing that they got the normies pinned against each other occasionally going to the restrooms to do a line off the toilet seat.
>Claims democrats benefit the ultra-rich
Wew lad never go full retard
nothing you dumbass. everyone is like that, you just don't notice your own form of stank.
>you just proved my point. thank you.
>citing examples of left wingers assaulting people proves my argument that left wingers win via fact and reason
>Both parties are run by the rich for the rich you dickhead.
It's all just a matter of perspective.
The Democratic party is funded at least 2x more by the rich than the Republican party.
By far the smartest post I've seen by a fascist. I feel embarrassed that my previous post was riddled with autocorrect errors now,
The Achaemenid Empire banned slavery. So did European Christians in the Middle Ages. And yet there are millions of slaves in the world right now. Obviously slavery is an abhorrent practice, but the Whig perspective on history is astoundingly myopic. I never know if people are actually serious when they express it.
conservatives have a 100 year track record of failure on every economic metric except one: making the rich richer.
Yet we are supposed to believe they are the economic experts. They keep peddling the trickle down and tax cuts create jobs after they have been shown not to work over and over. Because it makes the rich richer.
If economic performance is sorted by Dems vs Reps, then Dems beat Reps over last 100 years in alll metrics: GDP Jobs Debt Deficit etc etc
Yet conservatives still believe they are the experts in economics. It is truly a mental disorder.
Certainly wasnt true in 2008. Maybe in 2016, but if so only because how batshit the Republican party had gone by then. I mean, your young voters are literally nazis and fascists now.
theyve accepted a reality painted to them by media and re-enforced by education and are unwilling to see anything else. in this situation liberalism by today's standards (DNC variant) makes perfect sense. Consider opposing ideas are mocked and demonized through the whole education process and is the only narrative the media presents.
It's true though.
The Democratic party's main agenda is to create a super authoritarian nanny state that the super rich will use to control the population.
nigga u dumb af
reading comprehension sure isn't your strong suit
why are you hiding your flag by the way?
nice satire kid
A major difference between the Right and the Left concerns the way each seeks to improve society.
Conservatives believe that the way to a better society is almost always through the moral improvement of the individual -- by each person doing battle with his or her own weaknesses and flaws.
The greatest battle of the individual must be with inner forces -- that is, with his or her moral failings.
The Left, on the other hand, believes that the way to a better society is almost always through doing battle with society’s moral failings.
Thus, in America, the Left concentrates its efforts on combatting sexism, racism, intolerance, xenophobia, homophobia, Islamophobia, and the many other evils that the Left believes permeate American society.
We are now producing vast numbers of Americans who are passionate about fixing America while doing next to nothing about fixing their own character.
>Yet conservatives still believe they are the experts in economics. It is truly a mental disorder.
Right wing politics is more akin to a sect for those aspiring to be successful. It's like joining the Church of Scientology or something.
>Trickle down works!
>Your one of us boy, you're hired
It's all batshit insane of course, but it's based on the notion that the right is for productive and successful people and the left is for mediocre people who want to keep them down and rob them of their just rewards.
>The (((Democratic))) party's main agenda is to create a super authoritarian nanny state that the Jews will use to control the Goyim.
Its true. That is why Trump is being attacked by the media unlike any US president before him.
let's simplify things for you with pictures
>The Democratic party's main agenda is to create a super authoritarian nanny state that the super rich will use to control the population.
Right, because the people in the socialist "nanny state" scandinavian countries are miserable because of their free healthcare, schools and like two months paid vacation each year.
Fucking commies, am I right?
>Conservatives believe that the way to a better society is almost always through the moral improvement of the individual -- by each person doing battle with his or her own weaknesses and flaws.
This is something someone like WFB would write in the National Review in 1965. In 2017, the right fully believes in embracing the worst moral impulses and bettering nothing and no one. Rob what you can, grab what you can, be as obnoxious, as racist, as bigoted as you can. As long as you're pissing someone off you have to be doing something right.
It's all the fault of Talk Radio really.
>but it's based on the notion that the right is for productive and successful people and the left is for mediocre people who want to keep them down and rob them of their just rewards.
It's funny that you can describe exactly what's wrong with left wing politics but lack the self awareness to realize it's true.
The government redistributes trillions of dollars of wealth from the top earners to the bottom earners. In 2012, the top 20 percent earners lost $87,076 per person due to redistribution while the bottom 20 percent earners gained $27,071. taxfoundation.org
Because modern liberalism is a mental disorder. There is no other way to explain it.
