Name a bigger scam in the US than the college education system

Name a bigger scam in the US than the college education system.

The details surrounding your birth.

US economy and banking

Israel as an ally and not a vicious pimp

>get degree in something that isn't retarded
>get good paying job
>pay off loans

It's not hard to figure out

Nice trips m8

The US pharmaceutical industry
Plus many more American systems education is a mid tier scam.

How is it a scam? You know exactly what you're buying and how much it costs.

>how can I pay

by getting a job

>I spent someone else's money and agreed to pay them back
>How dare people expect me to uphold my end of the agreement?

Not a scam. A scam would be a College stating that is is accredited when it isn't.

This dont take if u cant pay

two party system

Social Sciences

>be genelet
>fall for anything

im actually lovin it famalam they should borrow more

But that hurts their feelings, and they can't do that.

You know how snowflakes are

>Money as debt.
>Religion.

There's two.

The war on drugs, the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, US imperialism in general. Also, the Jews that own most of the media.

>you invest in someone's degree in hopes that they pay back the loan
>wow, maybe i shouldn't have made a poor investment with high risk when it comes to gender studies majors... hehehe just kidding! 0 risk to me, lifelong servitude for them.

>Name a bigger scam in the US than the college education system.

Sanders for President 2016
Match me, Reddit

kids are force fed throughout school that college is the only way to go and then at 17 years old make a huge financial commitment without fully grasping the consequences

our immigration policies

The best of it is people here are complaining about paying back like 30-40k of the student loan which defaults after 30 yrs and they don't even take payments back until you earn over a certain amount. Also getting s decent degree and not one in some sort of social science will probably help you in getting a decent job at the end of it.

This. My brother in law got 200k in debt getting his MD. He was able to pay it back in less than 4 years. Maybe don't get a worthless degree?

Is it still a scam if the guy on the other side of the table has stats about the bets you can make and you still try to roll the hard six on being economically-successful with a gender theory degree, minor is dance therapy?

Nearly all private schools do this.

That's the whole point of the scam: The prefrontal cortex (the part of the brain responsible for reason) doesn't finish developing until the age of 25 on average. The student loan crisis was engineered as a way to create a slave class out of people who literally didn't know any better, or were too susceptible to peer pressure.

I think we'd both agree that, if the "age of responsibility" were to be raised to the age where the brain has finished development, we might see a better quality voter base as well. Instead, we have an entire class of brain-damaged elitists just now waking up to their own stupidity (and the stupidity of the people upon whom they relied for guidance) - most blaming the entire world for it.

People who don't pay back their student loans should be conscripted into military service at reduced pay.

Social Security

The college scam is a little more sophisticated than a typical snake oil salesman scam. Here are some of the advertising tricks they pull on potential students and their parents.

>Colleges have successfully marketed the myth that college graduates earn over 1 million in their lifetime vs. peers that have not graduated from a four year institution. This statistic is retrospective to a past time where a college degree was more rare and more valuable to employers.

>Colleges in subtle, hidden ways promote the "college experience" i.e. going to college parties, doing drugs, unbridled hedonism. Many students select these "party colleges" over colleges that might actually be a smarter financial investment. Parents knowingly or naively concede and often pay the tuition for them to party. (My issue with this is college is typically considered an investment not a consumer good)

>Colleges claim that college is the "transition from adolescent to adulthood", then proceed to coddle and "protect" the most childish of their students. They want their tuition, not to make them actually grow up.

>Most colleges are not using a majority of their funds to improve their educational standards and system; they are using it to purchase amenities and attractions to improve the social and environmental atmosphere of the college. It can go as far as rock climbing, hot tubs, water parks, football stadiums etc.

>Colleges, especially law school, use MISLEADING statistics all the time to trick people into thinking if they go to their school they are very likely to be employed in well paying jobs. Law schools for example, will take any employment data of their graduates, even the non-legal employment data.

They signed up for the loans. They chose their degrees. I don't see a problem here.

>Gatekeeping peer review system
>limited liability corporations
>intellectual "property"

The Federal Reserve.

The biggest scam is that most western countries made curricula a lot longer without actually teaching more things; back in the time you were likely to stop school at 12 years old (after basically having attended it for free), unless you were very successful at it and uni/college was for smart, competent people. Sometimes what you learn in uni now was middle school tier back then.
All of this made education more expensive. And yes, you learn nothing, and end up with a huge debt.

>what is the military
>what are trades
>what is entrepreneurship

How exactly were these options barred off from students? Who told them that an underwater basket weaving degree will yield higher pay than any of these options?

>name a bigger scam
POWERBALL (TM)

>I have $80,000 in student loan debt
Why did you take out the loan if you didn't have a plan to pay it back?

The idea is to get a degree that pays for itself. Pick something in high-demand with a high average salary. Otherwise, don't go to college/university unless you have the money to pay for it.

trump's administration?

Those are never talked about in school lmao

This this and a lot of this

when i was 17 i was told i could live on the streets or go to college

you can fuck off or tell me how to sue my mother

pick one

Communism

>:i loaned money to go to college and dey wand me to bey back >:( THIS IS LITEARLY HORLTLER
college is basicly paying and being in debt from money you loaned to have the (((right))) opinion

>tell me how to sue my mother
Fuck off. No one owes you anything. Google how to sue your mom yourself.

You could have just said banking and fiat. It's not just our economy m8. It's every economy that runs on fiat. We're witnessing the largest Ponzi scheme in the entirety of human history.

The US medical system

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It doesn't make it any less of a scam. Confidence schemes are nonetheless illegal irrespective of the gullibility of their marks.

The Democratic Party is America's biggest scam. Also, social security is a Ponzi scheme.

Don't burgers with university degrees always brag about how they make 200k + annually after taxes?

80k seems a joke to pay up for them, no?

Any form of collectivism

First off retard, you don't take out $80,000 in student loans for any degree.

You go to school and work at the same time to pay them off.

If you don't have the money, you start at a local in state community college.

If you don't spend money on stupid shit, live on rice and beans you can be debt free from $80,000 in 1 1/2 to 2 years.

This might sound shocking, but you're not going to have a social life or be able to go to debt rallies, because you're going to need to get 1 or 2 other jobs. Remember that being a pizza man is not below your means you broke piece of shit.

How about you take responsibility for your decision to be $80,000 in debt and stop blaming the banks and government for your retarded decision.

Government backed loans. The only kids who stand a chance are those who's parents have had some redpilling happen to them.

>incurring more than 5K in debt
>not getting scholarships, grants, not being poor

Perhaps becoming homeless months before graduating HS and not having any dreams was a blessing fot me. Spending the majority of my "best years" freezing in parking lots might have saved me dissapointment of the economy (circa 2008) and thousands of dollars.

Hopefully I get to do something interesting for a career sometime next life as I'm too old to start from the absolute bottom now.

Didn't study law, obviously.

The increase in the average curriculum size is due primarily to two causes:

1. Here, since about 1970-something, it is unlawful for a university to reject an applicant based on "race" or any factor related thereto (including test scores). So test scores are internally weighed based on the racial and cultural background of the student. The result is the actual curriculum needs to be designed for the absolute lowest-level mind that enters the classroom.

2. More classes == more money. This is why something like Calculus is typically divided into 3 sections. Many universities require additional specialized courses afterward to enter into any major sequence. Moreover, you will find that a lot of "high-level" material, like modern algebra (group theory, etc...) are written in a bottom-up fashion - dragging on with details irrelevant to the motivation behind the concept, thereby weakening retention of the material (students learn top-down, from abstract to specific. It is reversed here because it is time-consuming and therefore immensely profitable).

I'm sorry you were to stupid to realize that once you turned 18 you would need to be independent. What, did jobs not exist in your part of America? Did you not consider moving out? Did you not realize that maybe college really isn't for everyone? Did you not sit down with your parents and discuss your future? Next time you're given an ultimatum hows about you actually think it over instead of blindly following someone else's decisions.

College is not a scam, but it's definitely fucked beyond intervention. You'll have to be real lucky to finish with little debt, and excellent networking opportunities. Even then, the quality of the education itself is piss poor, which is why I'm leaving the US to study elsewhere.

The Federal Reserve

the banking system

>Name a bigger scam in the US than the college education system.
That there are entry-level jobs for people with good degrees.

On a serious note, why aren't student loans included in bankruptcy the same way most forms of debt are

seems kinda weird that the bankruptcy laws help everyone but 20 year old kids

its more high school teachers telling them they can be whatever they want to be, colleges letting them major is bullshit because the college gets paid no matter what, and the loan companies giving out a shitton of $$$ despite a large amount of student defaulting

its the housing crisis 2.0 but with young impressionable students

Question. I didn't get worthless degrees but I still can't find work. What do I do now?

>Paying for education
Poor 3rd world countries.

>Name a bigger scam in the US than the college education system
the standard education system.

>not working while living at home and going to a local community school part-time year round with an obvious trade in mind if you can't afford a $100k-$200k 4 year degree
What's wrong with people? Were they never taught math?

'everyone must go to college' same as 'everyone must buy a huge house' - peddled by the merchants of debt - wall street.

meanwhile voc ed gets cut in high schools. only 10% of high schoolers really should go to college. 70% should be in voc ed and comm college and the remaining 20% are hopeless perpetual welfare cases

Because most of them are backed by the federal government, which balks at the idea that somebody might be able to use bankruptcy when it says "FUCK YOU! PAY ME!" It changed the laws to make it so that federally backed student loans are very difficult to get discharged via bankruptcy.

The only solution to that is if former college students who walked this terrible path redpill the next generation of impressionable students so this scam can finally be shut down.

It's not a scam. It's a shit test.

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kys

I'm in the same position though, CS degree and 60k in debt, haven't found a job in a year.

>college debt trash will never be forced into slave labor to pay off their debt
>instead the responsible hard working man will need to pay it off
I hate college kids with a passion.

no one understands interest. college loans are harder to pay off than you think because of the special way they calucate interest on them

Social Security?

But yeah, you're right about college. Commies ruin everything!

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test scores don't equate races, this is a scam too.
The rule should have been "unweighed test scores is what matter, race is irrelevant" and what happens happens.
Banning people only because of their race is stupid and unfair..
But how to cure society from affirmative action ?

>state paying for your worthless degree
Mmmm nah she deserves this for getting some trash degree at an expensive school when she could have worked full time, probably live with parents thus few bills, and taken part-time courses at a local or online school for a degree that would apply to her career.

the farm we lived on 2 miles from the nearest neighbor so i had no social life? that part of america

Did i not consider moving out? Ever since i was 5, but i was not allowed to leave the property even when i was old enough to drive, i was not allowed to have friends, i was not allowed to have a car, i was not allowed to have a job. (no we were not rich, by any fucking means)

Oh college was for me, i just went to a paper mill that sucked down money for nothing, they refused to let me apply to the colleges i wanted, or claimed "they were too expensive" when this bullshit cost more than what it would have cost.

I was constantly getting into trouble because i was trying to be independent, i had finally found a way to sneak onto the our shitty internet, and was starting to make money doing programming stuff for people online. I had legally made $300 online in one week when i was 15/16.

So instead of like congratulating me, i was grounded, and all of my computers/internet access was taken away for a few months.


I was not allowed to have a car until i had gone to college.
I wasn't able to make enough money online to afford a car, so i took the shitty chance that i got, and got the fuck out of the house, and dropped out of college after 2 years, got a job, and went to live on my own (doing what i was going to school for at $70k/yr).

>Did you not sit down with your parents and discuss your future?
MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES
I TOLD THEM THIS SCHOOL WAS SHIT
I HANDED THEM FUCKING NUMBERS
I DID MY GOD DAMNED RESEARCH

I KNEW WHAT THE FUCK I WAS DOING, AND HAVE PROVEN TO HAVE DONE SO

but instead of seeing what i was actually doing, they just always fucking assume computer = video games, and i could never fucking shake that from them.

I technically have the money to start paying that off, but its the fucking principle of the mater.
They never treated me right (still dont), i'd rather watch them burn.

Some places here have been getting rid of it when they found out blacks did better without AA quotas, but AA is still widespread.

hey, maybe if i didn't have to go through 1000+ job applications to get a job with my engineering degree (any job related/unrelated)... maybe you wouldn't have to be paying for it. Having a hard time getting a basic job because they think i will leave once a better opportunity comes by.

Guess you gotta pay for my loan then.

>But how to cure society from affirmative action ?

Universities should only be accessible to people with certain IQ, each nation should make their own standardized IQ tests and if people who finish HS want to go to a university they have to undergo these tests.

It's called networking you fucking retards. Especially for the CS user, a strong portfolio and network are more important. Your degree isn't a ticket to a good job just by virtue of having it, all it shows is that you attended ~120 credit hours of classes.

>finish school
>no professional connections
>do jack shit in your off time because you only majored in your degree because you thought you'd make $100k starting at Jewgle
>only have piece of paper
>surprised when you can't find work

Should have gone to trade school brother

Communism

>Be me

>Join military

>Honorable discharge, free college

>zero college debt

>get job immediately after graduation

>instead of paying student loans, pay mortgage

>reveal power level, get called racist, uneducated, etc.

>mfw "tolerant intellectuals" will never pay off loans, get a job, or a house

They'll equate anything disadvantageous to them as related to, or derived from, their race.

The funny thing is, as you'd expect, Caucasian and Asian test scores would end up at the top. Even more funny is that, in more than a decade as a software engineer, I have yet to meet a single black man with the required aptitude to compete. I'm not saying they aren't out there, its just suspicious that, despite all the handouts and accommodations, they haven't absolutely swamped CS departments (its an easy subject, which is why I'm using it as an example).

>go to work to pay your dues to society.
>earn 80k
>pay for any retarded degree you want.

Or
>join the military
>gocernment pays for whatever retarded degrees you want.

Nobody makes you get student loans at 18 years old. They choose that because working and military is "below them"

>Name a bigger scam in the US than the college education system.
California state bonds.

I have 4 years work experience and an extensive portfolio.

Depends on many factors:
>Your major
>Your current work experience
>Your location
>Where you're trying to apply to in your field
>Your grades

If you give me a bit of info there and maybe also describe how far into any applications you've been getting before getting rejected then I could offer what little insight I have.

underrated posts

MSM.

anarcho socialism.

This.

My employer didn't care about my "education." He cared for my connections and experience. Never once talked to me about what I learned, wanted to know what I've done and who I know.

Boss is a college dropout, owning a lobbying firm, making a fortune.

Wait so you have loans from going to school on your own, like many people do, and you refuse to pay them off because your mean parents raised you? I know tons of people who payed 100% of their college despite being from a good family with good income.

Child support is a much bigger scam.
Literal slavery, some people don't even have a choice. Look up the few cases where a woman inseminated herself with a mans sperm without his consent.
Because the child was born, the court must view it as a person and the father must raise it. Even though he was the one who was wronged.

Nothing is worst than child support, most children are unwanted, unloved, and uncared for.
Most men are constantly abused by their exes and the money sent is rarely spent on the child.

Prove me wrong.

It's called personal projects.

And find a online recruiter, teksystems is preddy gud.

dice.com
get a fucking linkdin

did i say personal projects yet?
you have some personal projects right?
something that actually shows that you know what the fuck you're doing?
Something that shows motivation in this field?
And also something that uses at least 3 buzzwords and a github?
(and a combination of "rolled your own" and plugins/frameworks)

it helps.
a lot.

Also (((international))) system SWIFT.

Mine's about half that. I had just 16k debt after Bachelor's but then I attempted something else and doubled my debt :(

Yeah I'm sure that's the whole story buddy. You're either picky and have passed up a bunch of jobs that don't pay as much as you'd like, or your 4 years in the industry plus your portfolio are so bad they lead the recruiters to believe you're incompetent.

Be me...
Worked full and partime through college.
No debt
Said no thanks to the military, travel around the world in my own dime.
Continue to educate myself.
2 mortgages, no student loan debt and no shrapnel in my body.