I have had it with "right-wing", "conservative", "alt-lite", alt-right", "civic nationalists", "skeptics", "philosophers" and the like! Jesus.
>literally the first thing that is said in the discussion >"this is all random" (the fall of Europe, the migrants crisis) >"there is NO "group of people" sitting around discussing events" planning things nefariously >this is all happening because a few people with the best of intentions didn't have enough foresight! >what is happening right now is merely people making a bunch of "mistakes" >Stefan nods in agreement >they proceed to talk about the failing of dumb politicians and policy makers >reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.jpg >why, you might ask am I so butthurt about this? >BECAUSE there are very few staunchly conservative people left in the western world >and most of the normie conservatives listen to shows like Stefan's (some graduate to better thinkers, but for most part, Stefan is about as radical as they can handle) >so these normies are told things like "migrants bad", "immigration needs to stop" and then finally "western civilization is dying because of a bunch of incompetent people" >then these same normies that are looking for the truth get this watered down version >in fact, even worse than that, they get some of the truth but the reasons behind what is going are obfuscated or outright false >if the reason the western world is crumbling is just because of some stupid decisions then there is no one or nothing to blame >and if there is no one/nothing to blame there is no problem to be solved because it's all just random >essentially creating a bunch of impotent, passive bystanders to their own destruction
Yes... of course there is no "plan"... I guess the KALERGI PLAN is just a conspiracy.
GIVE ME A BREAK. I feel like this is just another example of two apparently "conservative" gatekeepers that will talk about everything except for one PARTICULAR thing.
What's your point user, except typing incoherent pile of text?
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Liam Green
My point is why can't ANY conservatives talk about the causes to ANY of our fucking problems. They fucking rant and rave and do hour long videos and NOTHING is said. Just a bunch of speculation and charisma.
Angel James
Douglas Murray is literally /ourguy/
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Xavier Reed
Wait, who is the blood aristocracy?
Chase Gutierrez
Douglas Murray is a cuck and a shill for Israel. That's literally all he is.
Nice job lumping Alt-Right in your package, since unlike the others they explicitly take on the JQ
Benjamin Morris
Just saying "Kalergi plan" is not enough proof you dipshit. You need to show how the current people in power are connected to Kalergi and beholden to following his plan. The fact that he wrote his intentions in a book in 1925 is not enough proof that the decisions of Merkel and co. are driven by loyalty to Kalergi.
Julian Price
>some graduate to better thinkers
Connor Russell
>They fucking rant and rave and do hour long videos and NOTHING is said Well, they suggest lower level of immigration, certain policies for integration of the recent immigrant and policies addressing demographic problems. It's questionable if even that can be realistically passed in European parliaments, let alone something more radical.
Logan Walker
the "alt-right" is just a straw man that was made to be attacked. many conservatives have historically held alt-right views they were just never categorized as such
r u serious?????????? my post was already enough of a blog. im not going to write a book for anyone. the kalergi plan was just 1 of ten thousand examples.
stop playing coy. you know what I am trying to say. and that is - there is absolutely a concerted effort to abolish whites
for them to say it's all just a misunderstanding essentially is insane. and in my opinion these men are far too smart to believe what they are saying. Just like last time lauren southern came on talking about how the french are the reason for the fall of western civilization lol
This isn't some pie in the sky conspiracy theory. Christ if anything I wish we could go back to the days when the New World Order was just the name of an English Rock Band formed in 1980. Unfortunately the reality is stranger than the fiction. Yes, these people are every bit as evil as Alex Jones claims they are. Paedophilia, child sacrifice, luciferianism, it's all real. They even openly admit in their declassified documents that they invented modern art and architecture to make you feel small and pathetic
Stefan "Defoo the Jew" Molyneux is a closeted /ourguy/ because mentioning Jews is literally illegal in Leafland. If you watch his vids from the last month they've had some serious dog whistles (or should I say German Shepherd whistles.)
Joshua White
Twain was obviously redpilled as fuck, nigger.
Michael Powell
Okay so where do white people come in?
You guys are saying this was all intentional and (someone) was behind it.
What is the endgame of multiculturalism? Whites are harder to control?
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Nolan Torres
>incoherent You're some slow bastards
Grayson Sanders
David Rockefeller himself said:
"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." [4]
The elites are basically doing to the West what they did to China. Killing all nationalist sentiment so they can usher in an authoritarian police surveillance state, until they have complete control and are able to rule over us like Gods.
"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." [6]
They would prefer to be rulers in hell than servants in heaven
Justin Roberts
I ma not blaming that group of people or saying they are responsible for anything. What I am saying is people cannot continue to repeat this mantra that "people just made mistakes" and "its all just happenstance".
I dont know exactly what the reasons are but there ARE reasons. to say that everything is random, imo is not honest.
Thomas Williams
Its all about power to these people. They don't care about anyone else apart from their immediate families. They're basically luciferians and have strong ties to the occult (the occult featured prominently in the background of events that led to WW2) - ideas such as Luciferianism and the Protocols of Zion which led to the Bolshevik Revolution
Also Adrian Weishaupt's manuscripts who was the progenitor of the Illuminati
Parker Perry
it is clear to me now Stefan Molyneux is a Russian agent.
Chase James
Its all about power to these people. They don't care about anyone else apart from their immediate families. They're basically luciferians and have strong ties to the occult (the occult featured prominently in the background of events that led to WW2) - ideas such as Luciferianism and the Protocols of Zion which led to the Bolshevik Revolution
Also Adrian Weishaupt's manuscripts who was the progenitor of the Illuminati
The Secret Doctrine by Blavatsky was one of Hitler's favorite books.
Hudson Fisher
Shut the fuck up faggot, go suck some dicks
Luke Cooper
>The elites are basically doing to the West what they did to China
No, what was done to South Korea.
Brayden Morales
tl;dr
William Johnson
Was wondering when you were going to catch on.
The alt-right is a media boogyman designed for ratings. Just like millennial as a term is copyrighted by William Strauss and Neil Howe purely for marketing reasons (its the whole point of their book).
Regressive left, however, is not a popular term despite the fact it came from the liberals own camp born in a British think tank by Maajid Nawaz. This isn't marketable to leftist viewers who otherwise embrace Muslim as victims of imperialism which is the accepted narrative.
Its all about money, politics, and controlling the opposition
Easton Garcia
Basically communism was funded by the Morgans and Rockefellers in the early 1900s so they could exploit cheap labour and turn China into a captive technical colony. They did this by funding the Sun Yet Sen Revolution which was the forerunner of the Maoist Revolution, whereby 60 million people were slaughtered for opposing the government (which explains why China is now so heavily collectivist). They did the same thing with the Bolsheviks in Russia. Now (((they're))) doing the same thing in the US and Europe with the UN, Counciil on Foreign Relations, and numerous other organisations all of which were set up to further the aims of the globalists.
Ryan Hall
Because conservatives are cucks.
Embrace national socialism already, goddamn.
Dominic Sullivan
>being a sodomite Hell is for ever!
Mason Myers
He recently mentioned in "The Death of Canada" that freedom of speech in Canada began disintegrating with the Jews getting butthurt about holohoax skepticism and getting it banned, and it slid downhill from there.
It's the way of the world user. Normies have their barrier up to all things rightwing. Your only mission is to get them to question one of their firmly held beliefs. After this, you open their mind for more critical thought. You can't simply try to address the JQ to a fully conditioned leftist but once they realize a belief that they once consider to be absolute truth is a lie, they have a chance of becoming aware of their own indoctrination. I am speaking from personal experience and the realization snowballed very quickly. Now I question every single thing and am constantly revisiting beliefs.
Caleb Mitchell
Molymeme is a cancer.
Wyatt Howard
Its coherent enough you retarded murifat
John Collins
>Its coherent enough you retarded murifat Standards, leaf. Some of us have them.
Dominic Perez
Nothing short of gun violence will bring the continent to a peaceful stand still
Benjamin Perry
Another jewish distraction. Their key is to own both sides, that way you can frame the debate.
Adrian Allen
Moly is an actual unironic jew, it's a meme to accuse everyone of being a Jew in the alt right but moly actually is one, he is obviously not going to start talking about gassing the kikes.
Adam Young
>(some graduate to better thinkers,
Like who?
Lucas Russell
Can you read or is your nose blocking your view?
Nathaniel Sullivan
Never attribute to malice that what can be explained by stupidity.
Whats more likely that the winners of political "popularity" contests are talentless morons OR a giant conspiracy to get those same people on side to destroy western civilization in the slowest and pointless way?
Who benefits? The rich will get there shit stolen eventually Zimbabwe style or lose everything to a commie style revolution (Seen several story's about the "advantages of a 100% death/inheritance tax"
The Jew conspiracy ends up with the same drawbacks of the Rich elite conspiricy except now there will be no white guilt and now Islamic Europe has a population of anti-Semites with nukes.
And the Illuminati? Who would like to rule when your puppets get pulled down and all the wealth and innovation in the world goes down the drain.
Adrian Hughes
Encloses a link about a Jew talking to a Jew referencing Jews fleeing Nazi Germany. KEK.
Zachary White
i feel your rage OP, literally listened to the first five seconds of that faggot speaking and dropped it
he is either (((controlled))) opposition or just a dumb ass who hasn't done his research, millions of people don't poor into every white country at the same time legally or illegally at over replacement levels just because of "incompetence"
what a fucking absurd thing to say, this is clearly designed from the start,
pic related on what interested party or tribe you could say might be at the forefront of this phenomenon
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Mason Sanders
>no plan context my dear man. context. they're talking about the fool leaders today who can see the difficulties from their pro migration policies emerging and have no plan to fix them.
it does not negate other plans - strategic initiatives that have put us all on this path; e.g. Kalergi.
unless you're implying Merkel is in some dark cabal. possible, but without evidence the simpler explanation is the better.
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John Jackson
last post
it's what your future looks like
Isaac Brooks
oy vey
Anthony Young
kek
But it's kind of retarded since even beyond conspiracy-tier shit like the Kalergi plan you have jews like Lord Mendelsohn and Tony Blair admitting they flooded the UK with shitskins on purpose to fuck up the demographics.
Jordan Watson
Yes, I don't like how Molyneux sometimes doesn't push back on his guests, probably because it's supposed to be an interview and not a debate. He usually talks about the infiltration of marxists everywhere, how immigration policy was purposefully changed in the 60s, and so on but this time he kept that to himself.
Cameron Jones
The only one sitting around planning shit is Soros. The rest of them essentially think they're doing good. Steph is mostly right.
Ryan Wright
The problem is that political change takes decades. It's been 20 years of Southern and Western Congressional districts becoming more and more Republican before the Republicans achieved an unassailable level of control in the House. Even then there are still nearly a dozen red states that have Democratic senators while blue states have like 1 or 2 Republicans.
The USA is lucky in that people "woke up" and began forcing the political discourse to the right long before we became well and truly fucked (inb4 60% memes, I'm talking about aging populations and demographic die off here).
European nations were near-homogenous in the 1990s but already experiencing demographic weakness that the USA is only just now beginning to see among our white population. Western European whites are already on the verge of population contraction yet groups like SD and FN are still years and years from being able to get their people to actually back them.
As it currently stands Europoors might end up in a terrible situation where elderly people consistently vote for cucks because they're stupid and Sup Forumsacks will have to watch their nations bleed from the inside. Even worse given Europe's strict gun laws arming yourself for the (increasingly inevitable) race wars in Europe is difficult.
The USA doesn't have a good demographic position but as things stand we have a government ready and willing to change up immigration and birthright citizenship laws to unfuck things here before our population hits die off levels.
Alexander Myers
Stefan Molyneux is ethnically half jewish. Douglas Murray is a jew lover:
Also.... Idiots post endless "look at this hot Muslim chick" "Drumph BTFO" and "white bois can't compete" threads EVERY FUCKING DAY. How about someone post a real thread about the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan every fucking day for a while! THIS is what people need to read, and read, and read.
David Phillips
tl;dr OP is all "I AM ANGRY. ANGRY ABOUT JEWS" Which is correct, all these charlatans dance aorund the true ((((cause)))) destroying ALL white nations.
Jose Price
i didn't say that. i just want people to start being honest and open about root causes and how to ameliorate things.
all these conservative "leaders" or e-celebs are just so fucking narcissistic its nauseating. they talk on endlessly but have nothing to contribute. BE SURE TO SUPPORT MY PATREON THO
Camden Stewart
Has anybody here actually read the book?
I'm almost done, and I think it's reasonable (not great, but reasonable). I think the important part is that book is reiterating that Europe is effectively being invaded by cultural trash, and nothing has been done about it for decades.
I found the chapter about the West's loss of story most interesting, but also most dodgy, so any trolls here want to comment on it?
The first step of correcting a problem is trying to bring it to popular consciousness. The book will never change things on its own -- not even close -- but it sure beats not writing it at all.
William Wilson
Saying there's no one specific to blame doesn't mean there's nothing to solve.
But the solution isn't something as easy as "get rid of this or these person(s)".
William Foster
He's weak.
Colton Young
Stefan Molyneux himself is a Jew, watch the video in which he says that the Jews dindu nuffin and that the reason they are in positions of power and influence is because they're smart. Pay close attention to his nervous body language.
Asher Cook
I'm almost done, and I think it's reasonable (not great, but reasonable). I think the important part is that book is reiterating that Europe is effectively being invaded by cultural trash, and nothing has been done about it for decades.
>nothing has been done >or >everything HAS been done to make all of this happen
most politicians come from money, grew up in private schools, have multiple degrees, above avergae IQ, good looking, healthy and are spectacular orators and are articulate. to assume that they don't know EXACTLY what is taking place is incredible naive.
the average Sup Forums user can see AS CLEAR AS DAY that this is all being meticulously orchestrated - to assume the politicians and policy makers in charge are "blissfully unaware" of all that is happening is insane.
Leo Mitchell
Fag, you're our greatest ally.
Eli Cook
Anyone want to critique/fact check this? Am I mistaken in regard to the Indian population? How if EU migration is roughly equivalent to non-EU migration is the non-EU population of the UK twice the size of the EU population?
Nolan Edwards
Are you new? Dude read the Talmud unmasked and go do some non-kosher research. Watch Marching to Zion it's on jewtube. The Synagogue of Satans plan has been in motion for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. I was like you once. You must break the conditioning. Illuminati, freemasons, globalist, communists etc etc are all code for fucking KIKES
Tyler Sanchez
Sorry I misunderstood I didn't realize you were replying to a direct question about China because I have been on meth for 3 days. I thought you meant this shit started in the 1900s. Sorry for being an asshole
Noah Baker
Everyone should read Kevin McDonald's "The Culture of Critique"
Alexander Lewis
Man can't they at least stick the jews in London for enrichment and Wales because they fit in with the other abandoned fetal alcohol syndrome retards that call themselves Welsh
Brody Parker
>the power is yours to abort your babies and give your money to third world immigrants
Alexander King
Murray is correct
Kalergi / jews / cultural marxism = maximum cringe
Very lazy
Murray was making the point that things tend to worsen slowly and organically
The demographic changes are too slow and gradual to provoke a reaction
Sup Forums gets demographic chance as wrong as feminism
For example, combustion & jet engines make immigration easier, because a human being has to physically move himself
Carson Smith
There is no proof of the Kalergi plan being real is there?
Hudson Martinez
Kalergi plan is the Youtube comment of 2017
Youtube 2015 - "sounds like more cultural marxism to me"
Youtube 2016 - "hey guys, check out the Frankfurt School! this is who to blame!"
Youtube 2017 - "just a heads up. Google Kalergi Plan.."
David Wood
>Why won't actual intellectuals jump up and down like retarded chimps screaming MUH JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSS NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS Truly, how could we ever know?
Grayson Sullivan
this
Noah Morales
Hearty kek
Hunter Wood
Fuck off kike. He is trying to get you to associate these ideas with embarrassment or shame. Such emotional links once built act as a force field to keep you away from shit they don't want you being keen to. It doesn't work here because you would have to be a retard to pretend any of that shit isn't at play in the West
Benjamin Russell
Because theyre all douche bag zionists.
Adam Miller
Jared, Macdonald
Angel Johnson
The Royal bloodlines of Europe who have been intermarrying with themselves for years.
Adam Cruz
if the Jews didn't exist, 99.9% of the problems we have today would still be present
Western nations would have industrial decline, labour shortage without the Jews
Personal computers and office jobs would still exist for women to be less reliant on men
The internet would still exist so people have more short term relationships
Video games would still exist
Sup Forums is lazy as fuck and thinks that buzzphrases are deep thinking
everyone cringes when you mouthbreathers type "cultural marxism" in comment sections
Isaiah Reyes
>missing the essential point of the Strange Death of Europe
Murray identifies the death of strong political values and beliefs in Europe and the lack of political will and moral conviction as the reason why today's Europe cannot address the crisis of identity and the lack of intellectual depth in putting forward a coherent case for why immigrants need to integrate and assimilate into Europe, rather than be celebrated as a (((multicultural and diverse))) society.
Murray argues that the (((multicultural and diverse))) argument is actually a symbol of failure of political will in enforcing assimilation and integration resulting in segregated communities that have nothing in common with their host countries.
Tellingly he observes most intellectuals and politicians in Europe today know not why they promote the policies that they promote nor could they argue intellectually why such policies are needed. Increasingly nobody can hold a deep intellectual argument to defend liberal democracy.
TLDR: Europe are a bunch of dumbfuck pussies and should be a warning to the rest of the World on why political will and moral conviction are important in enforcing assimilation and integration on migrants.
Landon Wilson
>There is no proof of the Kalergi plan being real is There?
How was your coma? We elected Donald Trump for president of the US. Merkel accepted 1.2 million Muslims into Germany in 2015 alone. Soros and other kike NGOs are funding this so called Replacement Migration. Fyi that is the UNs official name for what is happening. European politicians have told Europeans to get used to terror attacks they've become so common place. English police covered up Muslim rapes of 1400 children to avoid being called racist. Germany tried to cover up s similar number of sexual assaults 2016 NYE. Western Europe is fucked as in past the point of no return fucked. Sorry you woke up to this shit bro.
Christian Rivera
>that image Determinism is starting to make more and more sense
