The Good Guy with a Gun Theory, Debunked. Gun Nuts BTFO

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>""""Theory""""
>""""Debunked""""
>(((Stanford)))
Dropped.

So when are police disarming?

I have found the ultimate rhetorical weapon against the liberals concerning the 2cnd amendment; the one part they love to harp on is "well regulated". You can't get into a 2cnd amendment debate without this phrase coming up because liberals love regulations.

So here it is; the term "well regulated" as used in the 2cnd amendment during the 1700s was taken to mean "in proper functioning order", common phrases would be "a well regulated clock keeps time precisely" or "a well regulated knife cuts easily".

Please adopt this into your debate repertoire so that it becomes common knowledge and immunizes us from the liberal's mental poison.

Oh, a liberal at a liberal university wrote an anti-civil liberty piece about guns.
Let me now sit down, so as to recover from my shock and dismay.

Good point.

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NEVER!
We need highly trained people qualified and approved to carry guns for us.
Only the police can defend us.
Even though the police are racist.
We have to fight the racist cops who are well armed.
But we have to fight them while being unarmed.
Because we can't be armed.
Because we aren't qualified.
We need the government to do this for us.
Even though the government is racist.
We certainly shouldn't defend ourselves, though.
Because we are also racist.
Thank God for the racist government having all the guns.

. . . that's how this all works, right?

That doesn't work on liberals, because anything which knocks holes in their argument is immediately dismissed as false or irrelevant. Ignorance is strength.

>unironically posting a vice link

Where's Norbro when you need him?

Just copy switzerlands gun laws, it's working great and they have more guns per person than you have.

>implying any of this matters when the sole purpose of the second amendment is to overthrow the government

>here's how you are actually SAFER if you are totally defenceless!
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>Check out my Vice article, guys. No, seriously!
Stanford: Where niggers get in just for saying #blacklivesmatter.

Even Switzerland is somewhat cucked with their gun laws. Yeah, you can keep a military rifle, but the ammo is kept at a dispensary in town, and god forbid you actually use it in any situation other than a military invasion.

Why does nobody talk about Czech gun laws? From what I've read, they're almost like the US in terms of gun freedom. In some cases, even more free (I.e., seems less of a hassle to get a full-auto in the Czech Republic than in the US)

A bunch of libs got together and came up with a new anti-gun "study!" that proves guns are ebil and NRA is liars and stuff because Professor Shlomo and team said so!!!

nu uh! Not true!

Getting my Concealed Carry by the end of the month! Anyone CC here?

heres a reason to allow gun ownership, 2 in fact. the militia acts of 1792 and 1862

>The army with weapons theory debunked; learn how your nation doesn't really need to be armed and can still defeat invading armies!!

This.

This is something that can be shown in 1700s literature over and over giving them no leg to stand on. This rhetorical devise will work best if spread like the plague.

>theory
If it happens once, it isn't fucking theoretical, just rare.

OMG lefties btfo free kekistan based pedes

sage in all fields

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>vice

Fuck off shill.

>giving away personal info on an anonymous Bangladesh fart collecting message board

I don't understand your question Carlson

Isn't that the college that accepted the muslim faggot who just wrote #blacklivesmatter for his acceptance letter?

You'll be immediately met with the "living document" argument that is pushed hard by liberal professor cucks. If they can't change the law, then they'll just redefine it to be useless. So they'll argue redefining the "well regulated" to mean government regulated is fine because the constitution is a living document.

Tell them that the Constitution is not an organism and that the document is as dead as the paper it's printed on. Then ask them if its cool if we redefine social security to only apply to socialists since its fine to redefine words as convenient. Then ask them why they would rather redefine a law rather than get it changed by the people through legitimate democratic means .

Hello FBI.

We're super concerned with your opinion. Really.

I'm sure the numbers aren't skewed at all

What if guns were never invented? Or what if they went extinct tomorrow, totally gone from the face of the earth? People will be shooting each other with crossbows and bow+arrow or another type of projectile really.

>>(((Stanford)))
came to post this.

Did anyone ever taught you what a "strawman" was?

>vice

>37 years of data

LA Riots was 25 years ago. Remember Koreatown.

That's the Glenn Beck argument as published in his book Arguing with Idiots. It's a great book for Sup Forumstards and college students for obvious reasons.

>Police
>good guys
Top Kek righ there user

I replied to increase the post count without bumping

Suggesting that liberals actually thought that much would be giving them too much credit.

>no archive
Norbot where are you?

Did anyone ever taught you what a "generalization" was?

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"Good guy wth a gun argument" is a non argument. Guns are for killing tyrants in government, everything else is just for fun.

We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

Ask the people in St Cloud, MN if the good guy with a gun prevents more stabbings.

WHAT A COINCIDENCE

Their gun laws are very good, probably the best in Europe, I actually knew a gunsmith from Czech who barely got a slap on the wrist for storing his "projects" in his university dorm.
Must have been suffering for him when he moved to the UK.

This this this this this
Here in yurostan there is literal speech police
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I used to watch his television program on Fox. Most of the episodes were really fucking good, if a little batty. But every once in a while his mormonism would come out and he'd go way off the deep end. Beck believes that the Constitution of the United States is a divinely inspired document like the Bible. Imagine that. Imagine interpreting the US Constitution as literally holy. But my favorite was an episode he did on the Pyramids and the Sphinx. It was some /x/ tier mystic conspiracy theory bullshit that I swear I saw on the sci-fi channel in the 1990s. It was fucking hilarious. I only wished that I hadn't quit weed because that would be the best stoner comedy ever.

I stopped a mugging a couple years ago in Seattle with my conceal carry. I guess what I did didn't work as is debunked. Fuggghh

Switzerland is almost entirely white.

>a college that doesn't allow carry on campus does a study on guns
>NOPE NO POSSIBLE BIAS HERE

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Of course they didn't find anything because they are faggoty faggots covered in faggotry

It would be more violent and vile, evil people would be more brazen. Mob violence would rule. The modern firearm is a great force multiplier. That's why mobs run like roaches when confronted with one.

this

I usually go with the "pre existing rights" granted to us by the creator(s). If they are staunchly anti spiritual, they'll brush you off though.

1. I'm not a good guy.
2. My gun is not for you.
3. My gun is for defending my property and myself and perhaps a free opportunity at target practice if a Muslim or Dindu is up to no good.

I'm not trying to save you, yo girlfriend, yo mama, or some random dude walking down the street. If you want to be saved, the only advice I can give ya is to buy a gun and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

I stabbed a nigher when i was 18 so i cant have a gun. Or a nigger.

Doesn't matter.

Thats not rhetoric thats dialectic and it fails every time.

Instead embrace the words well regulated and tell them every legal gun owner ought to attend biannual drills and have federal authority vested in them. See if they go for it.

>Vice .com
Stopped reading after that. How much do you guys get paid to shill?

This. Well regulated doesn't mean hindering. It means making it more lethal and effective in its role. Of course that's why there's laws against the misuse of weapons.

Federal authority vested? Fuck that argument.

With authority comes accountabilty. Isnt that what youre after?

The study and the article are absurd sounding because they focus on an illogical premise.

More Guns = Less Crime is what they're attacking, by saying there's similar or maybe even more crime where open carry is legal.

But the point of owning guns isn't to prevent crime from happening in the first place, it is to defend yourself against crime when it does occur. And there are multitudes of accounts of criminals attempting a crime only to be gunned down. That's always been the true point, and Stanford "Affirmative Action" University has not debunked that at all.

>Stanford

into the trash it goes

>stanford
discarded.

VICE, kek, archive that faggot and kys

There is already accountability. And the feds should have no oversight when it comes to training because they are absolute shit at it.

>The heart of the modern gun rights movement
You can't disprove the second amendment

>modern gun rights movement
We don't need a movement we already have gun rights.

Its almost like mass shootings and such dont happen where people are armed, or even better dont count as mass shootings when gunman is shot before he kills a load people

Both sides are wrong on this issue

>Having more guns doesn't make you safer
>Having less guns doesn't make you safer

It's really has more to do with the mental health of the nation and how many inherently violent people there are in the country.

yep

If anybody knows about idiots, its Glenn Beck.

> "Come on, goyim, give up your leverage against tyranny. It'll be swell, we promise."

Never forget that they will use every tragedy to benefit themselves. They will lie. They will make things up as they go along. Never forget that the necessity of a well armed populus is paramount to a fair society.

Then his book should be like gold to you.

>Breaking News: Left-wing professors at a left-wing college prove that right-wingers are wrong -- Left-wingers finally proved right-wingers wrong by creating a study where they set out to find data that proves right-wingers are wrong.

>affirmative action studentscare too so dumb to find cause for the basis of western civilization
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Did anyone ever taught you what a "english language" was?

Vice is pro slavery, "dur if we don't have trafficking victims who are we gonna fuck?"

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This is just one, many more.

Remember, the second amendment does not give you the right to bear arms. The 2nd only prevents government from infringing on your rights, which transcend the constitution.

>that autistic fisher price charging handle
Praying for you user

>well regulated means more lethal
what, delending on how scary they look guns can kill people twice now?

Exactly. Anti-gun liberal professors debunk theory American needs guns for self protection. LOL. What a joke. Good thing the 2nd amendment doesn't give a shit about their cooked stats.

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You're completely missing the point. The whole point of 2A is "A country needs an army to defend itself, therefore the people should be able to arm themselves in case the government uses the army against them instead."

Standing armies were pretty small back in the 18th century and transporting them from place to place obviously took longer and equipping them was harder, so a nation pretty much needed irregulars who could mostly equip themselves and available to be called up anywhere at any time to compliment your regular forces.

So
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Is basically saying, we need irregulars, aka "the militia" ready to go, so we're not going to stop people from arming themselves. It says nothing about regulating how the people arm themselves, just that a regulated militia itself is a desirable thing to have for state security.

You could argue the rationale is "outdated," but there's a process for repealing amendments and liberals know they could never do it the right way so instead they "interpret" it to mean what they want.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE MATH

PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE IDEA THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES

FUCKING IDIOT LIBERALS DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY SAY "GUN CONTROL" HOW IT REALLY SOUNDS TO EVERYONE ELSE

"I'm taking your gun away because when a bad guy shows up, I want you to just die without a fight"

ITS ABOUT FEELINGS
ITS ABOUT BEING YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT A STATISTIC

so take your study and shove it up your ass

>You're obligated to save everyone, if you carry
>YOU HAD A GUN, WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT YOUR LIFE IN DANGER???
>MY LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOURS, THAT'S WHY I EXPECT YOU TO RISK EVERYTHING FOR A TOTAL STRANGER
Good lord I fucking hate liberals.

Meant for

Don't give a fuck. Still carrying everyday and literally making everyone around me safer. My family (and my wifes family) appreciates having a man around who can handle things when shit goes sideways.

IDGAF what you losers think on the issue.

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>theory at the heart of the modern gun-rights movement
SHALL

Same here. If Libtards want to be mugged, killed, beat & raped by Niggers & Sand Niggers that's their problem. It's the main thing that I hate about Liberals, they just won't leave you alone. They try to force their life style on to everyone.

Do... do you not see it as a Holy Document...?

Stop spouting this nonsense about the ammo.

That applied only and ONLY to the goverment issued canned emergency box of ammo for use in an invasion.
They can have ammo at home all they fucking want and full auto is easier to get than in the US.

You're right about the Czechs though, They're based.