Should I go to Ukraine and LARP as Chad to get a qt...

Should I go to Ukraine and LARP as Chad to get a qt? If I could get a remote job paying even US minimum wage then I'd be like a brain surgeon there. She'd also be way less likely to be a feminist whore than in the US. Is there any downsides?

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Lmao enjoy your gold digger whore with several stds

Why not LARP as a Chad at home?

You can't LARP as a Chad, you'll still be some pasty autistic faggoty neckbeard wherever you go.
Thinking you need to go to some poor backwater country to get pussy from desperate Slavs just cements that fact.

>implying most women in the US aren't also gold diggers

If I'm gonna deal with them anyway I may as well get a higher quality one.

It's worth a try, but a woman will not forgive you once she finds out you lied to her.

giv slav gf

Ukraine is africa tier

>any downsides?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Ukraine

Ukrainians are the ugliest of Slavs. The Turkish gene is strong there.

Because I'm not rich here, faggot.
I'm not a neckbeard. I'm a little autistic but not to an unusual degree. I don't NEED to go there but why put in a lot of effort to get a slag roastie here when I can put in very little effort and do way better in Ukraine?

How would I be lying? Any American in Ukraine is objectively a chad money wise.

yeah, no. You'll still be the same dude, though you'll get some play as an american with a little dough, comparatively. There will be a lot of roasties and a few cool chicks. You'll have some fun even as an autist but if you don't learn about the culture and learn some of the language you're gonna have a hard time. Slav girls want a stronk man - so you've got to uncuck yourself and learn to be generally an asshole. Heed my words betamale.

You don't understand the fundamentals do you? If you are in Ukraine looking for a girl then your are inherently not a Chad since you clearly can't get a girl from your own country. The type of girls you will attract will suck the life out of you that you'll be wishing you never went down this path.

Also you won't get a traditional girl, you'll get a urban entitled whore who jumped on every cock within 20 miles. Traditional girls wouldn't be traditional if they went for western men.

Ukranian women are frequently voted as among the most beautiful in the word. Why would you think there's Turk genes there? They're just slavs.
Everything but the women. Which is why it's perfect!
A little concerning, I'll admit.

> I don't NEED to go there but why put in a lot of effort to get a slag roastie here when I can put in very little effort and do way better in Ukraine?
> A little effort
> Going to Ukraine
> Spending thousands and thousands of dollars in travel expenses to go to a place just to get some used up cheap pussy
> Less effort than getting some here

>If you are in Ukraine looking for a girl then your are inherently not a Chad

75% of being chad is money when it comes to long term relationships. If it's just tinder then it doesn't matter but that's not what I'm looking for.

>The type of girls you will attract will suck the life out of you that you'll be wishing you never went down this path.

>Also you won't get a traditional girl, you'll get a urban entitled whore who jumped on every cock within 20 miles.

Welcome to America.

I'm looking for a wife not a whore. A wife here is a ton more effort.

SHE IS PURE

Listen man, I'm trying to help you. They'll only see you as a sucker ripe for the taking. They'll exploit you and there's nothing you can do about it. Trust me these women are clever as hell and they only do things for their own personal wellbeing.

And the second part, since you say women are like this in the United States then why would you travel all the way here to get the same type of women.

I'm not following your logic here

My wife is Ukrainian, is pretty smart, and not brainwashed by leftist propaganda. I didn't meet her in a setup like you're doing, but it's not a terrible plan, Odessa is a nice place.

>Hang out all day at a private section of beach for $3USD,
>beach chair and umbrella with the Black sea at your feet
>go back in to town at dusk
>nice meal at any restaurant is $15 for what would cost $30 in the US
>get a shower
>walk to the social district that lights up at night in a big city block party
>buskars doing shit, people socializing, old men at park playing tournament chess
>walking around a bookstore
>20 year old Russian qt asks me something
>"ne Peruski, Angliski"
>she looks disappointed for half a moment then lights up "I speak English!"
>chat her up for a while, she's in to me
>remember that I'm meeting my wife later and tell her goodnight
>she makes me take her number
>finish enjoying night taking wife and her mom to a bakery and having coffee
>do shit like this for two weeks visiting

It's quiet and nice there.

The language barrier would tear apart your "relationship." She'd probably divorce you for a local sooner or later anyway.

op why not go to venezuela?

Yeah, dumbfuck. Being an outsider in a land you have no connection with. Leave those people alone and LARP as Chad here.

>If I could get a remote job paying even US minimum wage then I'd be like a brain surgeon there

Not really. Kiev and the big cities like Odessa are actually full of rich (sometimes filthy rich) Ukrainian guys, it's not all poverty, doom and gloom like you think it is. Sure, there are a lot of poor people living in the countryside, but it's the same as in the rest of the world.

you can't keep them all to yourself, slavbro. you need to share.

>Should I go to Ukraine
No. I don't even need to read the rest of the post, do not go to Ukraine ever.

>since you say women are like this in the United States then why would you travel all the way here to get the same type of women
because Ukrainian women are hot af

I've had the same experience. It's a little disconcerting to have 19 yo chicks throwing themselves at you tho. I'm a little older. I love visiting Ukraine.

Ukraine should be split apart and land given to poland, russia. The country is dead, there is no coming back from the economical shit it's in.
People would be better off in russia/poland.

>Should I go to Ukraine and LARP as Chad to get a qt?
Yeah, good luck with that

don't fall for the women meme.

Maybe they're whores?

Russia should also get Belarus and the Baltic states.

Have Ukrainian fiance, will contribute.

>Should I go to Ukraine and LARP as Chad to get a qt?
No. Ukrainian girls are better actors than you are. You don't play a player, and if you're having a difficult time with US girls then the Ukrainian girls will run roughshod over you.

>If I could get a remote job paying even US minimum wage then I'd be like a brain surgeon there.
That's a gross overstatement. Many of the girls want to leave the country, which is why they work so hard to learn English, but that doesn't mean they'll jump any American they see. They will give you a fair shot, unlike a lot of US girls, but the qt's will smell a player and leave, while the evil qt's will outplay you.

> She'd also be way less likely to be a feminist whore than in the US.
Less likely to be a feminist, but she'll have very clear ideas about your role in the relationship as a man. She will not tolerate failure to understand and embrace that role. If you're known as the old-fashioned, traditionally masculine guy in your social circle in the US, Ukraine will still probably demand you man up even more. You don't get to slack off with one of these girls. As for "whore", well, the sex trade is alive and well there. Choose carefully.

> Is there any downsides?
If you're serious and you can handle it, the downsides are well worth it. If you can't, she'll either leave, charm you out of some money, or marry you for citizenship and leave the moment she has it. Slav girl loyalty is powerful and real but is not given freely, and anyone who has not earned that loyalty is just a mark.

Protip: if you marry, have an Eastern Orthodox ceremony. They take those seriously. They'll walk out on a protestant or catholic marriage in a heartbeat, but they don't fuck around with Orthodox marriages.

SO INNOCENT

>t. butthurt Moskal
How is Comrade Vladimir (((Shlomovich))) Putin treating you?

just go to Mexico and find yourself a qt latina from a ranch.

I'm not a race mixing degenerate, shekelberg.
The average salary in the Ukraine is 2.5k
Would you rather have a 9/10 slut gold digger or a 5/10 slut gold digger?

Choke on a foreskin you hooknosed rat

There are Ukrainians in America, take a trip to Brighton Beach or West Hollywood. Atleast then you can speak the language.

>but that doesn't mean they'll jump any American they see.

Yeah, that was a bit of an exaggeration. I don't intend to go with a minimum wage job. I'm in CS so I hope to get something remote paying at least 40k. In Ukraine that's the equivalent of making 560k in the USA so I wasn't really off on the brain surgeon bit.

>but she'll have very clear ideas about your role in the relationship as a man.

Can you elaborate? I would support her financially of course.

>The average salary in the Ukraine is 2.5k

Yes, but many Ukrainians are receiving part of their salary in cash or have a completely untaxed side income, so the official statistics is misleading. That's just how they live. Also in big cities there are a lot of domestic IT specialists, who work for Western IT companies and they get paid in USD.
If the only thing you're going to offer will be the minimum US wage, then most attractive Ukrainian girls will not be impressed by it. It's not 90's anymore. If you'll offer marriage and US citizenship that's completely another thing. But then again, if you're a beta in the US she will get it and leave you eventually.

race mixers should be gassed, shekelstein.

>and LARP as Chad

If you could LARP as a Chad you'd already be doing it.

If being confident and going to the gym is outside of your fucking paradigm then you are too much of a failure to even imitate someone that people would like.

because american women are fat shit skins

teh fact that pussy matters more to you than self improvement is alittle concerning OP/ You need to improve thyself before you go after chicks. Besides, women go after a man that looks self confident.

TLDR GET A FUCKING GRIP AND GET A HOBBY

>If you'll offer marriage and US citizenship that's completely another thing.

I was looking for marriage but I was probably gonna move to Poland as well so I could offer Polish citizenship? I was gonna go somewhere with a standard of living close to the US though so it's not too different.

>But then again, if you're a beta in the US she will get it and leave you eventually.

More of an autist.

NEVER MARRY! Jesus fucking christ dude dont marry! Especially in a western country.

>If I could get a remote job paying even US minimum wage
It's funny you say that. I'm trying to get a remote job so I could get an Israeli qt. I'm not even Jewish, I just think they make better wives and have an Israeli girl fetish.

I'm not a neckbeard or a NEET or anything. I just don't want to put in the effort to play the dating game in the US for little reward.

Well how am I supposed to have kids then and continue the white race? I can't just make a bunch of kids with a girl and never marry her.

assuming you find a wife she will just secretly steal resources from you until she's finally able to plot her escape to Germany or England

then dont, and spend time on self improvement. You dont need a woman to feel like a decent human being or to be valuable as a human being.

>slav
>higher quality
no

No, not a feminist whore but a regular whore. Because in most parts of Eastern Europe all there is to do is have sex.

artificial wombs dumbass. theyre right around the corner. Surrogacy is also an option

Yet ukranian women are even more femist than in the EU

You can thank soros for that

soros needs to be lynched. in public

>You dont need a woman to feel like a decent human being or to be valuable as a human being.

Thanks mom. I want kids though, I'm not a MGOTW. What would you suggest for "self improvement"? I'm in school, I work out, I read, I don't watch TV or play video games. This is all pointless though if I don't continue my race and genetic line.

I guess so but that's a little too weird. Maybe as a last resort.

>Can you elaborate? I would support her financially of course.

It's about day-to-day interaction. You're in charge, and failure to decide or be prepared is a failure in leadership. You can seek her advice, but have to make the call. It's never, "I feel like going out to eat tonight, what do you want to do?" It's "We're going out to eat tonight. I made a reservation for a place which serves that kind of food you wanted to try." And if the place sucks, that's your fault. You can't vacillate on decisions, even small ones, and you can never be without a plan of action.

You open the car door for her. Walk with her on your left. Give her clear directions about your expectations from her, while fulfilling her expectations without being told what they are - or at least laying down the law where you're doing something different. Stand up to others like a man in conflict situations. Don't act like a sperg near her friends. Tell her what to do, and if she's telling you what to do, you've already fucked up.

Don't confuse this for a lack of will - she has wants and needs and will act decisively to fulfill them. But she expects you to do most of it so that she can concern herself with being the best woman she can be; if she has to play the man's role, even briefly, you've fucked up.

> In Ukraine that's the equivalent of making 560k in the USA so I wasn't really off on the brain surgeon bit.
Except there is other American or western competition. You're not competing in the Ukraine league, you're competing in the Foreigner league. 40k is good living money in Ukraine but not impressive to any girl who knows westerners.

And temper your expectations for traditionalism. A traditional girl does not abandon her homeland, family, culture, and even her language lightly. A girl looking for money does that. The difference can be tough to spot and really is a matter of having well-developed social savvy.

bruh, now youre just fucking memeing.

That's practically impossible.

if you cant live without a woman then you wont live a happy life in modern times. Get over it and go get fucked by an american woman you beta cuck

>Walk with her on your left.
What's the point of this? Is concealed carry common in Ukraine or something?

are you me? I've been stalking the fuck out of some Russian/Ukrainian chicks on VK. They are all so fucking hot. And its rare you see any blacks in any of the pics. The girls all take these model like pics on all their profiles. Its just insane.

It looks like a paradise compared to this nigger hole I live in called texas.

its a tradition made by dumbass tradcons that think having a female in your home automatically increases your net worth.

Illegal carry is, yes, but that's not why. It's because you walk a dog with your right hand.

I though that was weird when she first said so. I used to walk with my dog's leash in my left hand, and I do carry as well. But that's the reason she gave, and her Ukrainian friends use the same expression. You'll still want to be on the outside sidewalk, of course.

To LARP as a chad you have to be built like a chad.

Only in Crimea, which is in Russian hands and has always been majority "Russian".

How? You literally suggested artificial wombs to me and that's not a meme?

Interesting. That could take some getting used to but certainly sounds feasible. I know there are some other westerners there but from a video I watched about this they were all old, fat and degenerate.

>A traditional girl does not abandon her homeland, family, culture, and even her language lightly.

I would be moving to Poland so I don't think it would as radical a change as with the US but I see what you're saying.

poland has a muzzie problem iirc

>its a tradition made by dumbass tradcons that think having a female in your home automatically increases your net worth.
Okay, but why have her walk on the left?

Huh, weird. Does she expect you to offer your hand or your arm or anything?

This once you remember that women are just other people not important, and #1 is you your happiness, health wealth and fun, you life will be a orb of beauty and then when you hit that stride people will be attracted to you in waves, and in that mob you can select a female you like to propagate your genes.

I thought Poland was doing a good job of keeping refugees out despite international pressure.

>poland
>muzzie problem

Have you been living under a rock?

thats why you should focus on self improvement. you can build your own harem if you want and the bitches will go for it

why the fuck does it matter what side she is on at all? just take her hand and go for a walk dude.

What would you suggest for self improvement?

Fuck off schlomo

Got a sauce OP?

Slav girls are cute in teens and early 20s but age like milk.

Learning Ukrainian

because

Cuck language, just learn Russian or Polish.

seriously, you cucks be talkin about getting one woman., yall need to build harems.

find a hobby for starters. Take your mind off of females as well. Itll only bring you stress.

learn to use your left hand

Women are whores everywhere user.
You'll be disappointed when your Slavic qt cheats on you with some Adidas wearing squatter that lives in the alley on her block.

You're best off never getting attached unless you can stand being with a hambeast that worships you because you're so much better than her, until her friends convince her that she deserves better and she cheats on you with some random nigger.

Women are completely fucked, it's a hard pill to swallow but the Jews ruined relationships world-wide. Loyalty is a foreign concept to women, they really don't understand and they will always find a way to justify being lying sluts.
Invest in yourself and no one else.

I have hobbies. I don't think about women all the time either, I'm just trying to plan for the future.

this is because womens brains have less grey matter than mens brains.

What a stupid meme. Fucking kike

plan financially. Leave the baby making for something you do once youve made it, and make sure you go only for traditional women once youre makin bank. Go to the gym or exercise every morning, maybe pick up a useful household skill such as carpentry, and dress nicely and then worry about getting bitches, buit only after all of this soc jus insanity stops. if it dont stop then dont look for a woman. It wont be worth it until this shit stops and women are forced to act like women again

Dont ya mean third world country? Because women here in the first world are mostly after the top 20% of men.

Learn to reverse image search, faggot.
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>Does she expect you to offer your hand or your arm or anything?

Usually hand-holding, but it applies even if you're just walking side-by-side.

I'm trying to focus just on how she'll expect a man to behave, but there are tons of little cultural differences that you have to get used to. She gives a little, you give a little.

It's worth it. A girl who always takes pains to look her best, who actually has interesting things to say, who cleans (I enjoy cooking and do it most of the time), who is good at adapting to new social milieus and boosting you up (she's great at work networking events), and who has useful life skills. She's loyal, loving and attentive. That shit doesn't come free, nor should it. You pay for it with equally masculine behavior, with ambition, and with effort.

That and society pretty much celebrates infidelity. Zero consequences "Oh no babe, what did he do to make you stray here's some money and a place to stay free of charge"
I'm not disagreeing with you, but if women were shunned for being sluts like they used to things wouldn't have gotten so bad.
There's no coming back from this either until society eats itself and starts over again, if that ever happens, and even then there's a 90% chance nothing regarding women would change.
We're way too far gone now.
This is coming from someone who is pretty much a "Chad" too.

Any downsides? Dude, you'd be living in Ukraine.

exactly. Thats why we need to preserve society until artificial wombs come out, and then set up a family structure that discludes women. Its time to evolve the species senpai, and our planet may very well be better off without females

There are radical feminists who want to do this, too, but without men.

>plan financially.
I'm financially secure because of an inheritance and I'm in college to get a job.

>exercise every morning
I do.

>dress nicely
working on it

>maybe pick up a useful household skill such as carpentry
I guess I could try that but it doesn't seem like that big of a deal

>if it dont stop then dont look for a woman
it won't in Jewmerica which is why I want to go to the Ukraine