Stop being a nationalist

Stop being a nationalist

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You have a bad understanding of 4PT.

Ok then. Wow, I didn't realise it was that easy. Cheers, user!

who dis?

no

>Fundamental failure of globalist version of liberalism is now evident. Brexit, Trump's victory and then elsewhere. But in its place comes the simplest solution: a return to national State (Etat-Nation) and to various forms of nationalism. That means we return - mutatis mutant - to the beginning of the twentieth century.
Realism in MO (+ mercantilism and protectionism in economy) is almost guaranteed and it will become soon the ideology of the political Centre (with some delay needed to cleanse the last Liberals). Welcome into a new era of nationalism. Second political theory (communism) is so discredited by the history of the twentieth century that it could hardly represent an alternative - even when it is deeply impregnated by liberal virus. Now there is no more clean communism -- rather far left liberalism in form of anarchism and trozkiism backed by such ultra-liberals as Soros. But nationalism is relatively forgotten. Its excessive demonization by the "anti-fascists" has made it look any meaning.

>The whole story of the name-calling "Nazis" of Putin and then - and this is important - of Trump finally has fully desemanticized the term - soon the word "fascist" will mean only the obscenity and will loose its sense completely. And the essence of nationalism, not the name, will come back and will be established everywhere, as simplistic alternative to the liberal hegemony, that is falling apart before our very eyes.

Putin's intellectual master.
>But did we want that issue? If someone wanted this, then that where'n't certainly us.

>First, nationalism - is a product of the Modernity. Exactly as the rest of political theory of Modernity - liberalism and communism. It is based on the denial of the spirit of Middle Ages and on the refuse of the traditions of the Empire and of Christ. It is bourgeois at its roots and in its essence. It may be a little better than liberalism and communism (that explicitly destroy identity of the people and religion), but nationalism is infected with the same poison - secularism, rationalism, atheism. It is other version of Westoxication (Occidentosis) --Gharbzadegi of person Heideggerian philosopher Ahmad Fardid called it.

>Secondly, nationalism will revive inevitably dormant conflicts between nations, peoples and religions, aggravate them and lead to war. Maybe globalists just want that and prepare that secretly (as their plan B). They hope to outlast another civil war in Europe, and then they will come back with renewed vigor with its "pacifist" demagoguery. And having shed the ocean of blood, the peoples will take them up again. And from there it is a short step to the World Government. Such plan can easily be born in the brain of the Antichrist.

>Therefore, the collapse of the Liberals, we have to use it for own purposes and we should not fall into the trap of nationalism. Listen to the communist garbage is of no use at all. Hence, it is necessary to focus on the Fourth Political Theory.
Join the superior eurasian movement

>It is based on the existential understanding of the people (as a whole - people as Dasein), but it ascend to the Logos, to the intellectual elite of the Fourth Way. And this elite of the Fourth Way can not be a nationalist - it should be imperial, great-continental, traditionalist, metaphysical and sacred. And it needs to understand Daseins of all peoples, and to take into account its fine core, to understand their Logos, to listen to the quiet voice hidden in the depths of people's Being.

>This elite of Fourth Way will collide with demagogues and hysterical "leaders", that a wave of new nationalism inevitably will bring to the front as the foam on the surface of fermenting sea. And the battle begins now. It would be better that neo-nationalist monster would be strangled in the cradle. But it is about to appear.

>Therefore, now - after Trump's great succes - is relevant as never before the general plan for fundamental conservatives and traditionalists all over the world - at least of America, Europe, Russia, Iran, Turkey and the rest of Eurasia (and the others who will join us). We need a common front aimed not only at the rest of the Liberals (finish to drain liberal Swamp is technical task now), but as well to prevent and neutralize new nationalism.

>We need to return to the Being, to the Logos, to the foundamental- ontology (of Heidegger), to the Sacred, to the New Middle Ages - and thus to the Empire, religion, and the institutions of traditional society (hierarchy, cult, domination of spirit over matter and so on). All content of Modernity - is Satanism and degeneration. Nothing is worth, everything is to be cleansed off. The Modernity is absolutely wrong -- science, values, philosophy, art, society, modes, patterns, "truths", understanding of Being, time and space. All is dead with Modernity. So it should end. We are going to end it.

there kike

>Let us listen the words of Apollo to the defeated serpent Python (Πύθων,) - "you are to rot!" (πύθω!) The same can be said to Hillary Clinton and to European bureaucracy. Stay to rot there! Our battle is not with you - the main scene of titanomachy is moved to another front.

>4PT versus 3PT.

4pt.su/en/content/traps-and-dead-ends-new-nationalism

Well, qAGnRsOV?

This. And nationalism is just another trick and false solution which will save the globalists

Why do you defend the degenerate legacy of the French Revolution, modernist and anti-traditionalist cancers that swept mankind for the last 2 centuries?
It is just another false solution (although admittedly better than liberalism and socialism, the first 2 political theories) that globalists will let you have for a while before they come back and are finally crushed by the superior theory of the future.
You're pawns in our hands, you unironically believe Putin and Dugin and we all are nationalists

Ugh... I don't know if i should give you an article where he says that those who believe in zionist conspiracy simply don't understand how world works.

no
Stop being a cuck

Stop being a schizophrenic, Dugin.

>believing in Turanism
Nope

pol is retarded, they unironically shill for people who will defeat them in the end
stop being an atlanticist cuck

Nah.

I think is a Chaos Undivided spawn

>be an imperialist
>but only if its a Russian imperialist

Really made me think

Roll this and tell me, whatever u roll, you wouldn't be better off under Dugin's future than under this awful system we live in today, slaves of atlanticist liberal demons who destroy every culture

Stop being poor and degenerate.

Total fake news.
It's the star of chaos, pic very related

btw the image's name was not by me, but by the uneducated cuck who made an article with it

rolling

>hue monkey shilling Russian imperialism

Y tho

>they unironically shill for people who will defeat them in the end
I like how Dugin quickly jumped on "Drumpf is done, it's over for him" train when Trump ordered Shayrat strike.

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it's not russian imperialism my boy
4pt.su/en/content/counter-hegemony-theory-multipolar-world-0
Unless you're a hohol it doesn't even apply to Russia

get a job and start making investments

the 4pt website still has recent stuff of dugin shilling for him again

roll

Rolling

>arrows pointing in all directions
Really emphasis the lack of a direction and coherence in your thoughts

Go bankroll more retarded 3PT parties somewhere else Hans, you people are the cancer of the world

>it's not russian imperialism
I agree. It's more of yet another bearded russian postmodernist from 90's hired to explain to right-leaning russians (and now to foreigners) why Putin is good for these goyim too. On domestic level he served mostly as a laughing stock for liberals as well as large part of conservatives. Even though i don't think he's clinically retarded – at the end of the day it's all about money.

t. pidorashka?

>Eurasians, including Dugin, find the American New World Order destructive of everything they cherish: their history, their sovereignty, mores, Orthodox religion, sacred traditions, and culture. They continue to respect Josef Stalin for keeping Russia strong, separate, and special.
>Dugin was born in 1962 to a privileged Bolshevik family. His father, Gelizh, was a colonel-general in Soviet Military Intelligence and his mother, Galina, a doctor. When Alexander dropped out of the Moscow Aviation Institute, his father arranged a position for him in the KGB archives. It was there, this writer believes, that Dugin received his real education in intelligence work. Of prime importance to the development of his later geopolitical views, Dugin studied the works of Halford John Mackinder, Carl Schmitt, and especially Karl Haushofer and their theories that world history has always been a continuous struggle between Land (tradition, religion, collectivism) and Sea (progress, atheism, individualism) forces.
>As a follower of the Rene Guenon Traditionalist School, Dugin claims to be opposed to anti-Semitism, perhaps due to sharing a common ideological basis with the Jews in their Cabbala. He praises Gershom Scholem as the greatest Traditionalist thinker. Dugin on anti-Semitism: “I just cannot believe it. Some imaginary ‘masons’, the Jews behind every single thing, paranoia, mania of being constantly followed “(see here).

4pt.su/en/content/eurasian-oracle

As you wish huebro. We have many bizarre relics from 90's for people of any political affiliation to enjoy. Dugin became a thing only because he was barred from entering USA and later was advertised by MSM as "muh ebil fascist Putin philosopher". A characterisation that is very far from truth.

why did they pick him, why is he in in Moscow university without any credentials, and why does Putin seem to follow many of his ideas?

What other meme ideologies are there in Russkyland?

Does dugin have any children?

rollin

darya dugina (pic related) and artur dugin

articles by the girl here
katehon.com/person/daria-dugina

why they use warhammer chaos star as their symbol?

JEWgin
youtube.com/watch?v=GjoIRTzMfHw

Then he have a stake in the future.

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Dugin's criticism of nationalism is based on his special definition of nationalism, which is 80% marxist and 20% religious. Dugin is, like a lot of "state philosophers", mixing up a lot of different points of views from many different thinkers around the world; that is why he isnt really a philosopher but a ideologist. Theres nothing hes ever created that would deserve to be called "philosophical"; everything he does he does for Putin and Mother Russia, which is one of the main reasons he is positioning himself against nationalism in the first place; theres nothing an empire hates more than well organized peoples around its borders.

Being right-wing but against nationalism is like being a christian but against the concept of church; there is literally not a single alternative for a poeple to organize itself. Nationalism always existed and its names always changed. Early Romans were nationalists, Franks and Saxons were nationalists, and so on. And just like time changes, a nation and its nationalism changes. This is what makes Dugins arguments invalid since he claims that nationalism only would be an early 20s phenomenon or a child of the French Revolution; its crooked rhetoric which has confused a lot of people already.

Alan Moore. He's an Author, a Wizard and a worshipper of Glycon.

yes, unliek most eurocuck leaders
>opponents acuse u of being a russian shill
>take pics with dugin's daughter and take russian money to fund ur campaign

No wonder these dumb cunts lost

>Nationalism always existed
How do u know u're a burger?

as a Brazilian you should know. Your nation is the perfect example of how man can create something new out of nothing. This power is within mankind and will always exist just as it has always existed before. Im not a Burger, I am German, a loyalist and follower the ideas of the Jünger brothers. I have a much more archetypical point of view when it comes to (historical) ideologies; Im not a friend of your materialistic view.

Please no turk

4PT is anti-materialism, which includes nationalist materialism. They see it as something positive in the short run for european nation-states, but failed and insufficient in the long-run due to it's modernist roots. Traditional society is not nationalist, it's local and based around family, clan and at most tribe or village.
Nationalism is not all-bad but it's deeply insufficient
u got kebab removal, kek smilled upon thee

>not knowing that Dugan is all about nationalism

just read the thread my nigga, if you actually believe this and shill for Dugin and lPutin because of it, you're just a XXIth century useful idiot

give me one reason why I would pick anyone else to shill for over Putin?

You live in Brazil, I live in Canada. You know it. I know it. People need to burn.

i just posted Dugin himself criticizing nationalism as a product of modernity and just another enemy, yet you say he's "all about nationalism"?

Nationalism represents a simulacrum/virtual unity which is not organic, just like the nation itself according to dugin

>why is he in in Moscow university without any credentials
Good question. That's why he was fired.

>What other meme ideologies are there in Russkyland?
Not that many. More like meme ideologists corrupting well-known ideologies:

Fyodov — deputat of State Duma, founder of NOD movement (no, not related) who says that literally any problem russian people have is because of ebil americunts in government, duma, and president office. To solve this we must give emergency executive power to Putin. There is a minor group of fanboys who like to claim that NOD are true russian alt-right simply because Katasonova (their slut for pictures) wore Trump-Pence T-shirt once and made it to some western newspaper.

Maltsev — bizarre russian guy with probable links to criminal and national-extrimist groups. Was nominated to State Duma and got 0,7%. Has an idea of "truth law" that will make illegal for state officials to lie. Fun thing is he was in United Russia decades ago and worked with Volodin (google him).

Novodvorskaya (deceased) — fat "liberal" virgin whose liberalism was surprisignly right, considering that she, just like Dugin, wished to take away any rights from russian majority. Hated by virtually everyone.

Leonid Svet-Donatovich Simonovich Nickshich (a.k.a LSD) — orthodox and monarchist. Claims to be descendant of Serbian Royal Family. In reality is anti-soviet dissident turned into KGB snitch in nationalist circles. KGB is long dead and now he's just a meme clown for those able to pay.

Limonov — if you know Dugin you know him. Nazbol, writer, bisexual, and simply a good man. Spent entire 00's protesting every month in celebration of article 31 of Constitution with Novodvorskaya and Kasparov. Supported Novorossia, and had a privilige to appear on state media several times. Mostly inactive now.

Galkovsky — yet another "philosopher". Russia is a cryptocolony of UK, and there is nothing you can do.

That's all i can remember without gogling

Ah yes, КOБ/КПE is also worth mentioning, but it's that big and retarded so it deserves its own thread. Maybe not today.