The Beatles' "Imagine" is communist propaganda

[Tyler Gonzalez]

When did you realize that the song "Imagine" by John Lennon is literally communist propaganda?

azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnlennon/imagine.html.

>Imagine there's no heaven
>No hell below us
>Above us only sky
>And no religion, too
Destruction of religion and Christianity, just like under communism.

>Imagine there's no countries
Destruction of the concept of nations and borders, just like under communism

>Imagine no possessions
No private property or property rights, just like under communism.

>A brotherhood of man
Literally a quote from the Communist Manifesto.

>And the world will live as one
One-world communist government, just like under communism.

John Lennon also had a Jewish manager named Brian Epstein, and Lennon later implied several times he didn't really believe in the song, especially when he lost some of his property, saying "it's just a song mate".

There's a lot of talk nowadays about cultural marxist propaganda everywhere, but not only did it exist back then to a smaller extent especially after the 50s, but even huge songs like John Lennon (considered one of the top 5 most popular song in the world) had blatant Marxist messages.

What are your favorite hidden political messages in songs, whether it's subversive (((messages))) or otherwise, Sup Forums?

[Jayden Thompson]

I knew it was hippie bollocks when I first heard it, aged thirteen.

Do we really need a whole thread for this obvious obviousness?

[Kayden Campbell]

youtube.com/watch?v=zAx0t3O55Zo

[Oliver Hughes]

Other relevant quotes by Lennon:

smoloko.com/?p=17295

[Sebastian Gonzalez]

>When did you realize that the song "Imagine" by John Lennon is literally communist propaganda?
The first time I heard it, around age 14.

[Hudson Lee]

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[Jordan Parker]

This

[Aaron Sullivan]

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[Owen Allen]

I was a militant anti-theist at the time but thought the song and its ideal were stupid. On one hand you dismantle religion and transcendence, but you also destroy materialism? There's nothing left. It's pure nihilism.

[Isaac Kelly]

>Boyband helps jews spread communism

what a scoop.

[Leo Myers]

>what is cultural subversion

[Jordan Perry]

>Do we really need a whole thread for this obvious obviousness?

We do actually, most people don't know this shit because it's so far behind them, and they don't realize the context of what was going on at the time with the Cold War and the USSR, communist infiltration and attempted takeover of the US and all those commies who were jailed, the New Left counter-culture, etc. They also don't realize how it relates to the Jewish element.

Also this is just a thread for political messages in songs in general, post some.

[Isaiah Williams]

>What are your favorite hidden political messages in songs, whether it's subversive (((messages))) or otherwise, Sup Forums?

youtube.com/watch?v=tdtGo2Ib9oI

[Alexander Cruz]

>it's just a song mate
Yeah a song with a message that effects hundreds of millions of people in perpetuity. I hate that kind of lazy, unintellectual thinking that says "we're just a bunch of thinking chemicals so why bother" "we're all gonna die anyway" until finally "YOLO".

[Cameron Foster]

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[Lincoln White]

but but it was in Forrest Gump and I trust Tom Hanks (not his real name)!
t. typical consumer pod person

[Hudson Stewart]

The very first time I heard it in my youth. I hate that song and always have. Its lyrics are garbage and the song itself musically sucks.

[Ryan Mitchell]

Zappa also released a song called "Jewish Princess".

Jewish Princess
youtube.com/watch?v=8yDarQW7UZc

Frank Zappa exposes the illuminati
youtube.com/watch?v=JshARrVS_Q4

Part 2
youtube.com/watch?v=VYjjEv4HBXk

He also wrote songs constantly shitting on Hollywood, he hated hippies. He was always trying to go as far as he could take it subtly in the industry and never apologized, that's probably part of why he got so many lawsuits. Everyone should watch/read some of his interviews, the guy knew his shit.

[Hunter Brooks]

required pol viewing: youtube.com/watch?v=HTdQ7dGENUI&t=1133s

[Anthony Morgan]

>One word title
>Still cannot comprehend it.

[Easton Phillips]

The anti-religious lines were the only part of that song I liked.

[Noah Sanders]

I like them, but they're degenerate commies who hung out with Allester Crowley and Paul is dead.

[Ian Thomas]

Right after 9/11, my high school showed some video tribute with this song overlaid on it. I can still remember thinking that shouldn't have been allowed - and I can also remember the hardcore left-wing feminist in charge of the video productions who probably made sure the kids used this song.

Fuck the Beatles, another Jewish psyop.

[Chase Howard]

youtube.com/watch?v=HTdQ7dGENUI

[Nolan Sanchez]

>the song "Imagine" by John Lennon is literally communist propaganda
Baby's first post! Congrats!

[Cameron Green]

>Lennon was not anti-war, he was pro-peace.
>His marriage with Yoko was not as idealistic as the media portrays it. He was separated from Ono for a large part of 70s.
>He was a Christian, not an atheist.
>LennonOno Grant for Peace awarded Christopher "Islam is bullshit" Hitchens posthumously.
>He was against the Nixon government, who later spied on him, not conservatives. On the subject of anti-republican protesters, "We said, We ain’t buying this. We’re not going to draw children into a situation to create violence so you can overthrow what? And replace it with what? . . . It was all based on this illusion, that you can create violence and overthrow what is, and get communism or get some right-wing lunatic or a left-wing lunatic. They’re all lunatics."
>youtu.be/yoC83orA4ys
>"It’s quite possible to do anything, but not if you put it on the leaders and the parking meters. Don’t expect Carter or Reagan or John Lennon or Yoko Ono or Bob Dylan or Jesus Christ to come and do it for you. You have to do it yourself."

[Kevin Gray]

Did you guys know John Lennon beat his wife?

[Ayden Brown]

The true reason he was assassinated.

[Ryan Hill]

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[Jack King]

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[Camden Lewis]

Come on Sup Forums, I'm sure you can think of something.

[Brayden Wood]

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[Michael Phillips]

Wasn't he shot in 81? Why this bitch making up quotes 7 years later?

[Mason Myers]

Under the opinion that these items were the basis of war and conflict.

[Angel Turner]

John Lennon was speaking beyond the grave?...............................................lol

[Matthew Peterson]

Exactly this. The song is shit too.

[Henry Reed]

Frederic Raphael never made such remark. It was said by Kubrick.
You faggots can't seem to get the facts straight.

[Ayden Evans]

that was written only by lennon do not bring the beatles into this

[Sebastian Ward]

>When did you realize
EVERYBODY KNEW IT FROM THE START YOU FAGGOT
sage

[Oliver Richardson]

Nigga that song has been the baby boomer's end goal since it came out, why'd you only notice it now?

[Ethan Stewart]

jewjew was a man who thought he was white
But he knew it wouldn't last.
jewjew left his home in jerusalem, israel
For some goyim grass.

[Aiden Ramirez]

>destruction of nations and borders

Free market capitalism does this

[Brandon Hernandez]

No, that's when Maureen Cleave (popular English journalist and interviewer) quoted him it in the New York Times.

See: for other quotes by Lennon indicating he knew what was going on.

forward.com/culture/186536/secret-history-of-paul-mccartney-the-jewish-beatle/
>It was Lennon who once said, “Show business is an extension of the Jewish religion.” But it is McCartney — one of the few English rock stars to have defied an unofficial boycott by performing in Israel — who has actually lived it.

It was Kubrick who said it, but it was Frederic Raphael who quoted Kubrick saying it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_and_religious_beliefs_of_Stanley_Kubrick
>Frederic Raphael, who authored the Eyes Wide Shut script for Kubrick recalled that Kubrick once remarked that "Hitler was right about almost everything," and insisted that any trace of Jewishness be expunged from the Eyes Wide Shut script. Kubrick's bizarre relationship to his own ethnicity deeply troubled Raphael, a fellow Jew. Raphael was further puzzled over Kubrick's cryptic praise for Hitler, unable to decide if Kubrick was jesting. Raphael was equally puzzled by Kubrick's trashing of Schindler's List. After Raphael mentioned Schindler’s List, Kubrick replied: “Think that's about the Holocaust? That was about success, wasn't it? The Holocaust is about six million people who get killed. 'Schindler's List’ is about 600 who don’t."[4] Kubrick's friend Steven Spielberg, the director of the film, disbelievingly responded that he "didn't recognize the voice of Stanley" in Raphael's interviews.[5]

You don't seem to understand the concept of people quoting other people, posthumously or not.

[Tyler Allen]

Communism has nothing to do with Judaism.

Engels envisioned communism to be a society where religion was no longer relevant.

[Juan Gonzalez]

Are you from smoloko.com?

[Sebastian Cox]

>1988
John Lennon died in like 1980-81 you fucking faggot.

As far as I can tell, Lennon was just a casual antisemite like everyone was back in the 60s. Just made fun of his manager for being Jewish and shit, also during several of the choruses from "Baby You're a Rich Man" he sings "baby you're a rich fag jew"

[Chase Rogers]

>oy vey, it's just a coincidence that Marx came from a long like of Rabbis, and all the main tenets of communism like destroying Christianity, non-Jews having no property, and creating an authoritarian world government with no borders (except for Israel) are all outlined in the Talmud
>it's also a coincidence that almost every communist movement or organization, whether it's the German Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, the Hungarian Revolution with Bela Kun, the ANC, etc. were all started or led by Jews

This is what delusional commies in the current year actually believe.

>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>Winston Churchill exposes Jewish forces behind Communism
youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

>"Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Revolution in Russia was in 1917."
~ H.H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937

>"Communism and Judaism are one and the same."
~ HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Minszenty, The Truth About His Real "Crime," page 6

>“Zionism is Judaism, and Judaism is unthinkable without Zionism.”
(Harper’s Encyclopedia of United States History, Vol. X, “Zionists”).

>“Some call it Marxism (Communism), I call it Judaism.”
– Rabbi Stephen Samuel Wise - The American Bulletin, May 5, 1935. (Judaism is nothing but disguised, camouflaged Communism, therefore, Zionism is nothing but Communism)

>“Bolshevism and Communism, were Jewish proposed, Jewish financed, Jewish led and Jewish operated. The most muderous regime this planet has ever known, was Jewish through & through.”
~ ("The Secret Force" by Maurice Pinay)

[Andrew Diaz]

I wouldn't have questioned it if my choir teacher hadn't decided to change "no religion" to "all religions." It seemed like a weird thing to have a problem with when the whole song is like that. That got me to thinking about the song's lyrics.

[Alexander Foster]

ty based rainbow fish

[Lincoln Long]

I had heard about this song long before I heard the song itself - people talked it up to be a song about a utopian earth. I can still remember the disgust I felt the first time I heard it - "no religion" is bad enough, but then "nothing to kill or die for". The man, after taking away the hope of religion, would even deny us heroes! "Nothing to die for" is very different than not dying for something; it would imply that there is nothing meaningful enough that it could be considered greater than one's own life , and what sort of world is that? Nihilism wallpapered with endless hedonism to distract from the futility of it all. Disgusting.

[Christian Lewis]

beatles are communist propganda

youtube.com/watch?v=70E9KA48Sic

[Jonathan Watson]

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[Julian Clark]

telecommie.tripod.com/

[Angel Morales]

Most of the Soviet Govt. was Ukrainian, not Jewish.

[Leo Green]

Imagine was Lennon- solo, fags. The Beatles had nothing to do with it.

[Gabriel Lopez]

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[Caleb Lee]

True, that's often the endgame, but only if the capitalists and bankers want it, there's no actual manifesto for "capitalism" that says you have to destroy nations and borders (unless it's clearly outlined by libertarian thinkers like (((Rand))), (((Rothbard))) or (((Friedman)))).

The Communist Manifesto plainly says they want no borders at all and that national borders are an obstacle to the "world revolution", and they want the "workers of the world to unite". Everything needs to be commonly shared, "common ownership" (which is just a lie), common culture, nation and world-government (so we need to destroy the individual nationalities and cultures to "unite" and remove "divisions" so everything turns into a grey blob with a hammer & a sickle).

It's dystopian, but they hide it behind messages like "one race, the human race", "workers of the world unite", "Unions", etc.

That's funny as shit.

Who are you trying to fool? They slaughtered and starved the fucking Ukranians.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932–33
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1946–47

[Adrian Allen]

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[Jayden Mitchell]

Great, now I have that shitty song stuck in my head

[Joseph Wilson]

Let me fix that with anti-NWO songs.

youtube.com/watch?v=hFhgv-eTkXo

youtube.com/watch?v=sTWc82dYuuU

[Wyatt Gomez]

How fucking uncultured do you have to be to think "Imagine" is a Beatles song?

[Xavier Parker]

Was John ((Lennon)) a Jew? I've always wondered this.

[Blake Brooks]

I like Michael Jackson's "they don't really care about us" but only the uncut version:
>Beat me, Hate me
>You can never Break me
>Will me, Thrill me
>You can never Kill me
>Jew me, Sue me
>Everybody, Do me
>Kick me, Kike me
>Don't you Black or white me

[Owen Rogers]

How autistic do you have to be to care about phrasing like that when I clearly said it was a John Lennon (who was a Beatle) song?

I keep expecting someone to actually post a song and point out subtle political messages or give some interesting feedback, but instead I get this.

No, but McCartney was crypto.

tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/193461/beatles-meet-the-chosen
>And of course, McCartney fell under the spell of Shayna maidels. His late first wife Linda Eastman, from Scarsdale, New York, was Jewish, as is his current (third) wife Nancy Shevell, also from New York. Shortly after McCartney married Shevell in 2011 (a day after Yom Kippur) he bowed to her religious beliefs by showing up at a Friday night service at the Reform synagogue in St. John’s Wood in London where McCartney has owned a house for almost half a century. The rabbi called them up to the bima—and blessed their marriage.

Michael Jackson was a closet NatSoc. His signatures were red and black, and a Nazi memorabilia seller called Norman Scherer claimed he helped him amass a huge collection.

telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/6229315/Michael-Jackson-Hitler-was-a-genius.html
>Michael Jackson: 'Hitler was a genius'

youtube.com/watch?v=GG7nSBgvGVc
youtube.com/watch?v=SwivRet20Rk

It's really sad what they did to him.

[Zachary Harris]

americanfreepress.net/jews-who-control-hollywood-tell-stars-better-not-mention-palestine/
>Jews Who Control Hollywood Tell Stars: Better Not Mention Palestine

>It’s official: Right now the No. 1 rule in Hollywood is that you can talk about anything political—except Israel’s attack on the Christians and Muslims in Gaza, Palestine. That’s not a conspiracy theory from critics of Israel or Jew-hating neo-Nazis. Instead, that was the thesis of a candid article in the August 1 edition of The Hollywood Reporter (THR), influential trade journal of the entertainment industry.

>Adding breezily that it is commonplace for Hollywood executives “to be on a first name basis with prominent Israeli politicians and business leaders,” THR cooed that this intimacy with Israel explains why so many Hollywood figures who otherwise have much to say about a lot of political issues are silent about Gaza—with only a few exceptions.

Hollywood Producer Arnon Milchan Says He Spied for Israel
bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25108559

'Hollywood Producer was an Israeli Nuclear Agent'
haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hollywood-producer-was-an-israeli-nuclear-agent-1.373867

[Landon Ortiz]

earl lee

[Aaron Sullivan]

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[Joshua Richardson]

"Marcus, fist her!"

Yes, m'lord.

"NO! NO! I WANTED TO KEEP MY VIRGINITY FOR CHAD!!! NAOOOO"

[Landon Perez]

As much as we all hate Ben Shekelpiro, he made a great video about this song
>youtube.com/watch?v=ZGuYEDEkIPY

[Kevin King]

>this is against Christianity
>it shall be purged
You should make ultra-Christian-fascist country and make an inquisition and conquer infidel countries.

[Ryder Green]

Shapiro's job is to criticize all the results of Jewish propaganda and influence, while leaving out the Jewish aspect every time.

He doesn't mention it in this vid, or even the clear communist message, and how communism was derived from Judaism.

In his book "Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth", he talks about the Left's control over academia while never mentioning Jewish influence behind that, especially derived from the Frankfurt School.

In his book "Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV ", he talks about leftist messages in film and TV while ignoring that TV networks and Hollywood are largely dominated by Jews, who are mainly the ones behind those agendas.

blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/
>Jew Manny Friedman admits Jews control the media

articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
>Jew Joel Stein admits Jews controll Hollywood

In his book "Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism Is Corrupting Our Future", he talks about porn is corrupting us, but he doesn't mention that the main people pushing porn for decades, and behind the removal or anti-obscenity laws were Jews (even Nixon acknowledged this).

henrymakow.com/jews_and_porn.html
thejc.com/blogpost/jews-and-pornography

Pretty much the definition of controlled op, although he has good some points, even here.

[Isaiah Mitchell]

Christianity is the grandmother of Communism.

Lennon was rightwing and said he'd vote for Regan. This song is a bit Commie but Revolution was anti-Moaism which was the most popular Gommiunism of that day and all the Professors preached it in Western University.

>A brotherhood of man. Literally a quote from the Communist Manifesto.
You don't have to write literally all the time you hipster faggot. And it's a quote from Alexander the Great.

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're all doing what we can

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright, al...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead

But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow