At 7:55 pm EST, a silver or white jet flew over my area heading NNE. It was low enough for me to see the glare of the sun hit the windows on the plane. Honestly, it was low enough I thought it may crash.
Around 8:05, I saw the same plane heading south but gaining altitude sharply. I checked current flights in the air and there was nothing taking that route at low altitude. Nothing even in the air over us at that time actually.
I saw the plane heading south. A couple was stopped on the sidewalk and were watching it and the man asked "what the hell is that plane doing?" So I know I am not crazy and it was there.
At 8:44pm I then heard a similar sounding low aircraft but could not see it. I then heard one military jet and was able to find that on radar as "blocked."
Anyone else in MA see this? The plane came from over Northampton, over Amherst, turned around somewhere North of Amherst and then began gaining altitude heading south over South Amherst.
Why is it not on radar? This is just one in a string of near nightly flyovers. Mostly military jets and helicopters. Between the all black helicopters flying around and military jets overhead nightly, it is making me paranoid.
Whatever color it was, it was reflecting the color of the clouds and was nearly invisible for a few moments while gaining altitude.
Picture is the closest I could find to it online. It was more likely all white than silver now that I think of it.
What is in the area that would warrant so many military planes to be circling the area everyday?
FUCKING FINALLY! I TOLD YOU FAGS WW3 IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hunter Evans
You mean the fat SJW cows that infest the area? Let them get mutilated.
Nathan Ortiz
>been to Northampton numerous times at three county fairgrounds >literally an airport next door >every time I was there there was at least one day a military aircraft was around
Caleb Cook
Plausible? There are a few links about this plane online. It's MIT/Lincoln Labs, I've seen in flying over Woburn.
This plane was too large to take off from that airport. They handle only small Cessna type planes. This could not have taken off or landed from there. The runway is over 800 feet too short.
Robert Nelson
That's some dedication to fucking with someone
James King
How is Western Mass? You gun laws suck but the exburbs of Springfield seem like a comfy place. Any Indians?
Luis Thomas
This looks just like it from the pictures she posted on Twitter.
Connor Gutierrez
Head to the hill towns and it is real nice. The gun laws do suck though.
Thomas Nelson
Bumping from Boston, kid.
Evan Clark
Saw it fly over 91 at 820 by the mall.
Camden Nelson
Thanks.
Sebastian Smith
Why did my id change?
Adam Rivera
>The gun laws suck 'Nuff said...
Jacob Reyes
So i am still kinda sane?
Owen Robinson
What type of aircraft was it? How do you know how much runway it needs?
Did you know some jet aircraft weigh as much as prop planes?
Juan Phillips
Who else here Massfag. If thread tanks this is a Mass General thread. Direct all other Massachusetts threads here
Henry Ortiz
I went based on the runway length from Wikipedia. I have never seen a jet fly into that airport. The runway is just over 3,300 feet and all I have ever seen there are pipers and Cessna type planes.
Jonathan Long
Sounds like a solid plan.
Jordan Morales
OP, check this:
Looks like other posters are confirming that fixed-wing aircraft flying in and out of Hanscom AFB. The base recently shut down due to potentially hazardous materials discovered in a truck at checkpoint. Likely unrelated, but story below, plus official Base page:
Could be a PC-24 prototype. It's a jet, it' needs only 2,690 ft even on a unpaved runway to takeoff and about 2,526 ft to land.
Zachary Carter
Here's the about page for MIT Lincoln Labs. Among other projects, they list:
>Lincoln Space Surveillance Complex >Airborne Test Bed Facility >Integrated Weather and Air Traffic Control Decision Facilities AAAAAND >RF Test System Facility, described as "The antenna and radar cross-section measurements facility, constructed at MIT Lincoln Laboratory on Hanscom Air Force Base, was designed with a rapid prototyping focus for radar and communications systems development. "
Asher Young
No say. Connecting these dots would be a disparate effort. More interesting in that, your thread has stoked an interest in this local AFB plus MIT defense contracts. See:
Jason Brooks
This fucking guy
Owen Ross
That's not necessarily too small for a jet aircraft.
Can you describe the aircraft? Straight or swept wings? T tail or conventional? Where were the engines? What shape were the windows? Did it have wingtips? Could you see the gear? Were the flaps deployed?
Joshua Wilson
They do all sorts of crazy shit. They have a 707 the fly around too.
Kevin Jones
Bless those anons with aircraft and weapons fetishes.
Leo Kelly
I'm an air traffic controller, I get paid to know these things
Eli Miller
what purpose?
Isaac Robinson
glad to know that someone else is as high as I am right now.
OP, thumbs up.
Austin Jackson
still badass. Well done, m8
Jordan Cruz
Adding as the company that builds it is pilatus that is known to be hyper conservative on all their plane specs that thing will most likely be able to operate on a 2k ft runway without a problem...
Zachary Morales
Nice pepe.
Nathan Howard
And I'm a Commercial Pilot flying a PC-12 so this kind of autism is a must.
Carter White
>NNE There is no such thing as North North East you dumb mother fucker.. it's either NORTH or NORTH EAST... LMFAO EVEN A TODDLER KNOWS THAT!
Dominic Ward
You just now learned that the "radar" is a meme and none of the flights are real. Anything you see on there that matched real life events was nothing more than a coincidence.
Evan White
>This plane was too large to take off from that airport.
Found this article.I know they use to call in "paul revere" but apparently it has a new name now. I see it every once and a while in the air, it gets new antennas every year.
Ethan Rivera
Adderawl is feckin cool, dude.
Brandon Diaz
> "the aircraft is used for testing airborne battle management, command, control and communication technology and concepts" So they run wargames within US using this 707 as a CV in our airspace? Would sort of scenario be generalizable and translate to foreign battlefields, or does that depend upon the nature of the game/exercise conducted?
Levi James
>kehd!
Cameron Ramirez
if only you really knew the full extent of Lincoln Labs abilities. muhahaha.
Bentley Clark
>Straight or swept wings? Straight wings coming from under the plane not from the side
>T tail or conventional? T shaped tail like in the picture.
>Where were the engines? Looked to be attacthed to the tail. Not under the wing.
>What shape were the windows? Looked oval in shape, at least 8 windows
>Did it have wingtips? No. It looked like there were small round engines or something on them.
>ould you see the gear? If you mean landing gear, no.
>Were the flaps deployed? Not the first time. Saw something on the wings when it was getting higher
Nolan Cook
Or worcester
Wyatt Green
Good question. I have actually talked to someone who is involved in the project once, but they all sign NDAs and want to keep their jobs.
Josiah Watson
Again, likely unrelated, but check out this story of foiled bombing of AF recruiting center, combined with today's mysterious crash of [AC-130?] over Mississippi:
Maybe even Westover Metro Airport All big enough for e Gulfstream or similar.
Juan Cruz
an MIT-insider is one of the few people of importance that I would accept as lurking on Sup Forums without the usual skepticism or accusation of LARPing. You geeks are fuckin weird--meant as a compliment
Grayson Morgan
8 windows? That means it was huge. Straight wings means either a citation or a smaller beechjet but neither one of those would have 8 windows. Not even a gulfstream or challenger have 8 windows.
Tyler Baker
I guess some models of challenger have 8 windows but the pictures I could find were oval not round, had swept wings, and winglets, all of which contradicts basically everything else you described.
Liam Parker
That sounds perfectly like a prototype of a small hyper versatile jet. >Looked oval in shape, at least 8 windows that would be massive. 4-6 are usual so I put my money on a prototype >No. It looked like there were small round engines or something on them. Those are Yaw damper >Not the first time. Saw something on the wings when it was getting higher sounds like a reasonable slow it down with full flaps till the stall horn goes off and accelerate out test.
Charles Young
There's always weird shit flying out of westover. Daily basis seeing them in the foothills of CT
Jayden Baker
Bumping.
Girlfriend goes to Westfield, lives in Belchertown (20 minutes outside Springfield). Positive that airport (bradley i think??) nearby couldn't have involvement?
I think I am confused on the straight vs swept. They were not angled back drastically, they were less angled than a boomerang if that makes sense.
My friend with me counted "six maybe seven" windows.
Yes, this was a big plane! I seriously thought it was going to crash since there is not an airport nearby and I have never seen a plane this big that low.
Aiden Lee
I said oval windows.
>What shape were the windows? Looked oval in shape, at least 8 windows
William Wright
On the runway on the civilian side of westover.
Caleb Gonzalez
>not an airport nearby KCEF, KBDL for starters
>I said oval windows.
All airplane windows are oval with very few exceptions.
Justin Anderson
It's hard to pin down the type from your description but even larger jets can fly VFR, which means they're out flying doing whatever they want. They could have even been doing low approaches over that small airport you mentioned.
Whatever it was, an airplane flying low to the ground doesn't mean anything except that it's low to the ground. Sorry to burst your bubble but it was almost certainly nothing of interest or suspect.
Andrew Williams
>All airplane windows are oval with very few exceptions.
That is so untrue that it's almost cringeworthy. Every Gulfstream has round windows, a lot of GA prop planes don't have oval windows either.
Zachary Torres
>almost certainly nothing of interest or suspect >C H E M T R A I L S >Military trying new mind altering chemicals on select population
Benjamin Long
Googled this and was redirected to super versatile jets. That is exactly the style plane I saw. Even had the seven windows my friend saw. I thought there was right but I may have mistook a logo for a front window.
Joshua Butler
>Every Gulfstream has round windows Of course, rounded/round/oval windows
>a lot of GA prop planes don't have oval windows either Some exceptions being unpressurized aircraft
But since we're talking about a jet here, it's fair to assume it's pressurized
Leo Price
Well a PC-24 would be reasonable as Oshkosh Airventure will be from the 24-30 and there will be a lot of new/prototype/experimental aircraft on display...
Nathaniel Hernandez
Round and oval are not the same thing, genius. There's a reason I distinguished between the two. If you counted oval as being round and square too then there'd be no reason to bring up windows at all because that would describe every window that wasn't a bubble canopy.
Shape of the window has absolutely nothing to do with pressurization, it's entirely manufacturer preference.
Aiden Nelson
Fuck, i live in North Attleborough, where were you, Norton? Taunton?
Jaxson Kelly
No sign of it here yet.
Eli King
Nah lad theres a lot of closet nazis, libertarians, etc in the shadows, sjw kikes just scream the loudest and can get you fired
Blake Watson
>Shape of the window has absolutely nothing to do with pressurization
I don't want to keep repeating myself so this will be the final time I say this: oval and round are not the same thing. A window isn't considered oval just for having rounded edges. Round windows are circular, oval windows have a length greater than its width, and square windows have straight sides with equal lengths and widths.
I can't believe I'm explaining shapes to you.
Nolan Russell
Don't mind closet nazis.
Liam Cook
Use FR24, find your location and set the time you saw the aircraft using the clock icon.
it's not a question of low altitude on landing/takeoff, it's an issue of maintaining low altitude, making a U-turn, then rapidly climbing, all without radar confirmation (although flying too low to be seen by radar is supposedly a thing)
