I don't give a fuck about muh 6 gorillion. I don't give a fuck about invading other countries or totalitarianism, I agree with fascism more than any other philosophy actually so I'm fine with all of that.
National Socialist Germany put limits on art and music. If you support this, you are an uncultured fucking subhuman and you should be gassed more than any fucking bloodsucking kike. Gas yourselves stormfags.
PS. They killed people that were crippled meanwhile Goebbels was Reich Minister of Propaganda walking around with legs like the dude from 300 bunch of hypocrite faggots.
PPS Hitler tried to imitate IL DUCE and his march failed epically and his attempt at fascism was autistic.
but what about the cool hugo boss uniforms and the edgy armbands?
Justin Butler
The uniforms were awesome, but don't fuck with my record collection. Kill all the jews you want, I'd kill em too, I'd make race mixing punishable by death too. Don't fuck with my record collection Nazis.
Isaiah Walker
>limits on art and music is a bad thing >he thinks this should be allowed youtube.com/watch?v=AVDBD_HXtMs really nigger?
Evan Robinson
Yeah but German culture was incredibly degenerate during Weimar. They didn't ban art just "modern art" like spots of paint on a canvass or jazz. The Nazis would have created some of the most amazing architecture if they had won. Funny thing is that in Berlin, the modern art museum, which was supposed to show Germans what was degenerate, got like 10x as many visitors as the Germanic art museum.
Tyler Reyes
>National Socialist Germany put limits on art and music. If you support this, you are an uncultured fucking subhuman and you should be gassed more than any fucking bloodsucking kike. Gas yourselves stormfags.
Nah they just publicly made fun of shitty art and endorsed "good" art. They had a point. And here is that point.
Art following the abstract expressionist movement of the 1920s is divorced from any objective standards and devoid of any beauty.
Art like this, it's not meant to inspire, it is meant to belittle and make others pessimistic. It betrays our society as one that doesn't uphold objects of beauty that once characterized us, but rather bleak nihilism.
Whenever the topic of modern art is brought up there are people who make excuses for this decline on the grounds that we just "don't get it". As if the works of Rothko or basquiat are just too deep and they reflect some higher philosophical concept we cannot fathom. Nobody actually values the modern artistic incarnation more than the works of the past, nobody actually thinks this filth alludes to some deep obscure meaning.
The popularization of aesthetic ugliness is only possible because the values that once guided the artistic vision of our people have been discarded since the 1920s. Art is the means by which a people assert themselves in time and how we will be remembered. When our descendants look back on us, they will see a people paralyzed by fear, guilt and self loathing, and a people which values ugliness, frivolity and weakness.
300 years after the masters of the baroque period, almost 100 years after the futurist and surrealist movements and the "highest" form of art we have is installation art, which in many cases consists of literal garbage.
Ask yourself, could there be any greater insult to our most renowned artists to display works in the same gallery as something so vacuous?
Brody Clark
>National Socialist Germany put limits on art and music Ban rap now pls.
>They killed people that were crippled Only severely mentally handicapped ppl.
Connor Sanchez
>BASED HITLER JUST WANTED TO MAKE GERMANY GREAT AGAIN
>NEVER MIND THAT HE STARTED TAKING LAND THAT WASN'T HIS AND THAT HE KNEW WOULD START A WAR FOR LITERALLY NO REASON
Cameron Rogers
Name one thing they banned worth saving.
Elijah Kelly
They had to take hard measures to turn the country around (wouldn't necessarily last for long).
...like if we want to stop the white genocide today... it will also take hard measures.
Isaac Powell
Dadaism.
Nathaniel Ross
>Dadaism and jazz music
Dylan Baker
Hitler is a jew and the german people are stupid goyim who took the blame for the holocaust so the chosen people could return to Israel. The german people will suffer for all time for naming the jew. The swatstika is a jewish symbol. AshkeNAZI.
There was a reason, read Mein Kampf. It was a good reason too. I literally agree with Hitler on EVERYTHING except for this.
Wyatt Williams
They put limits on (((art))) and (((music))) because of all the Weimar degeneracy.
Nolan White
Acceptable collateral damage. There is a cost-benefit to every action or inaction.
Colton Hill
Hitler accepting part jews, allying and not actually exterminating everything in Poland/Serbia shows how stupid they were
Jackson Ross
Fascism and NatSoc is objectively just as evil as Zionism. Imposing an over-oppressive order on the world is just as evil as cultivating degenerative chaos. The Nazis created their own "master race" mythos which was only the inverted image of what they found so repulsive about Talmudic Judaism in the first place
One of the messages of Christ is that truth and salvation are the domain of the human individual, not the nation-state. Not realizing this is the failing of Israel, and it was the failing of Nazi Germany as well. The story of Jesus as recorded in the gospels is about what happens when the Spirit of God appears on Earth, and is resisted by the worldly powers of organized religion and the state. Anytime the message of Christ becomes co-opted by religious doctrine or state power, it has already abandoned its roots, since at its core the Jesus story is about how those very powers will stop at nothing to subvert and destroy the Christ. Though of course they can never succeed - to those with eyes to see and ears to hear, the King remains enthroned.
Hitler was an anti-Christ false idol, he was trying to do the right thing by fighting Zionism but he got his methodology all mixed up because he failed to comprehend the value of true Christlikeness.
Look up the quotes of Hitler praising Islam and denigrating Christianity as a "Jewish swindle". His reasoning is very flawed because both Christianity and Islam co-opt Jewish monotheism and the stories of the Torah. The difference is Islam glorifies the power of a worldly nation-state - just like Zionism, just like Nazism - unlike Christianity, which calls out the evils of the elite Jews and which glorifies the human individual in communion with the Spirit.
Tyler Howard
>He didn't read about the Weimar Republic
fuck off kike, just because you can do something under the guise of (((Art))) doesn't mean its not degenerate filth shit.
Benjamin Thomas
Art is supposed to be jarring to the senses and shake up your sensibilities. You're allowed to think it's shit regardless, but you can still recognize it is in the spirit of the artist as trickster and shaman. The artist needs to be above the conventions and mores of society in order to fulfill his role as an expander of consciousness. Censoring and burning any art, shitty or otherwise, is the true degeneracy.
Sebastian Adams
Jazz is excellent and I personally find many abstract expressionist works to be quite sublime and moving. In my opinion you have shit taste, I will defend your right to have shit taste but not your right to glorify those who wish to dictate the tastes of others
Ryder Hall
You couldn't be more wrong.
I can allow some wiggle room for "cleansing" the press and education, but art needs to be allowed to be 100% free at all costs
Jacob Scott
Daily reminder that it was the Jewish people who made Germany great and if the ungrateful Nazis hadn't driven them out they could have won the war and built a thousand year Reich together.
Kevin Ramirez
Next time don't just copy paste what you did a few days ago
Juan Smith
not to mention he broke almost every treaty or nap he ever made. I cant stand behind that type of actions
Ethan Bailey
Nice try Schlomo, do you think we are foolish enough to believe your nonsense?
>National Socialist Germany put limits on art and music. Weimar republic art and music was to alien for german people,
Owen Powell
Honestly, the only problems I have with NatSoc Germany is that no matter how I look at it, there was no way they were going last. Even if they had won the war, even if they kept annexing territory and plundering them, their economy would've collapsed eventually. German's would've never reached the standard of living that Americans had during the 40s, even as they were recovering from the Great Depression. I just hope you all realize this, there's no way that the Aryan Utopia could've happened under Hitler's government, he spent most of his time trying to stave of the inevitable and the German people had to pay for his final gamble.
Also, I don't like how the Nazis went after Otto Dix, the man made art criticizing the Wiemar Republic, the treatment of crippled veterans and overall degeneracy and they repay him by cracking down on him?
>yes I'm a fan of Otto Dix's work
Benjamin Torres
Art and music are used for propaganda and subversion, youre also an autistic sperge, kys before someone else does.
sage
Wyatt Fisher
>Art is supposed to be jarring to the senses and shake up your sensibilities. wrong. >The artist needs to be above the conventions and mores of society wrong. >Censoring and burning any art, shitty or otherwise, is the true degeneracy. Wrong. >Jazz is excellent and I personally find many abstract expressionist works to be quite sublime and moving. In my opinion you have shit taste, I will defend your right to have shit taste but not your right to glorify those who wish to dictate the tastes of others WRONG >le abstract art meme fuck off pretentious hipster faggot. >You couldn't be more wrong. >I can allow some wiggle room for "cleansing" the press and education, but art needs to be allowed to be 100% free at all costs You're probably some art grad student who thinks being edgy and out there is "art" like all of the other failed, degenerate faggot modern "artists"
Chase Walker
Can you imagine how fucked jazz would be if it had been tainted by Teutonic sensibilities? It would all sound like Kraftwerk. Bebob would not exist. >Heil mien Führer
Robert Davis
The real mistake wasn't their treatment of music, but rather their treatment of architecture (and I suppose art to a degree).
Logan Gray
the weimar republic had like constant showings of pornography, simulated child rape, and so on. just about anything repulsive imaginable was considered 'art'
yes i know this is a troll thread
Jayden Gray
Watcha doing rabbi!!!
Jose Perry
Jazz is fucking stupid. That's why it's dying. It's a shitty, nigger infested modern-art meme that sounds like garbled shit without structure.
Ryder Gutierrez
>National Socialist Germany put limits on art and music. If you support this, you are an uncultured fucking subhuman and you should be gassed more than any fucking bloodsucking kike. Gas yourselves stormfags.
Um no they got rid of the degenerate Jewish shit that pollutes our societies today. They weren't just burning books they were burning degenerate Jew trash like we will do again youtube.com/watch?v=ca8CpIFb0_E&t=1s
there are so many things about national socialism that I agree with but the lack of complete free speech just kills me. America's constitution is divinely inspired and is the basis for freedom
Evan Torres
Source for this argument? I see many people on Sup Forums and /his/ bringing this up but I have no idea where they got it from. While I see how the German economy was based purely on labor and that increasing the labor capacity by annexing new territory would help with the war, I do not see how complications would arise after the war if, like the intelligentsia of that time wanted, Germans were sent to the annexed territories to interbreed with the locals and "cleanse" them.
Jackson Wilson
>I agree with fascism more than any other philosophy >National Socialist Germany put limits on art and music
Hitler was a God you idiot
Ryder Garcia
Not a troll thread. Obviously simulated child rape should be illegal that's the case in America and we're a "democracy". There is literally no good reason for banning cecil taylor or marchel duchamp.
Christopher Fisher
>wrong >wrong >wrong
Good arguments there, retarded Stormfaggot
Hunter Rodriguez
Read a book you dumb Nazi faggot they banned all sorts of shit for no reason other than they were autistic
Landon Howard
Heil sieg!! We shall bring back his glory!
James Diaz
You really tried hard this time, huh?
Gavin Baker
>le freedom
Easton Brooks
>Fascism and NatSoc is objectively just as evil as Zionism
Wrong. Although I dont agree with any totalitarianism, Fascism was for the people Zionism is not. Plus Hitler did what had to be done there was no way to undo what the foggty Jews were doing legally. The same thing will happen again soon. People wont do shit as long as they have something to lose when it gets bad enough people have nothing left to lose it is inevitable
Communism VS Fascism
Communism strong central bank owned by Jews (namely the Rothchilds) Jews hold most white collar positions of privilege everyone is equal (as slaves under Jewish hegemony) antisemitism is outlawed authoritarian rule
Fascism Barter System between nations no central bank The best for the Job gets the Job (except Jews of course) Everyone is equal under the state to flourish Semites are outlawed authoritarian rule
Communism Take private property (aka the means of production, or factories) from the individuals that own them and give them to "the state" (aka a small number of people in positions of privilege filled through nepotism) turning the entire country into private property owned by them with the people still working in factories they don't own and now will never have an opportunity to own making less than they did before with a lower standard of living or to make it simple basically a return to feudal serfdom only the lords will now all be Jews instead of natives that basically consider the people livestock
Jason Scott
>muh music and art Because nigger rape and porn are the greatest works of art in America, right? >attempt at fascism He didn't do an attempt on fascism. He did national socialism.
Michael Clark
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Austin Barnes
Art isn't supposed to be "jarring" you retarded fucking pleb. Art is supposed to evoke an emotional response that gets the viewer or listener engaged and thinking, or helps the viewer come to a certain conclusion or make some sort of personal revelation. It's supposed to be about honor, beauty, dignity, holiness, tradition, not about being an edgy twerp faggot who makes "jarring" artwork. Who the fuck wants to be "jarred" by art other than jewish freaks?
John Hernandez
The constitution might as well not exist. It's not like anyone gives a fuck about it but the (((civic nationalists))) that are too cucked to realize our government is just as imperialistic and evil as Germany or Italy was, we're just more two faced and fake. We police the world more effectively under the guise of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY when we're really milking countries for their resources like fucking cows to feed (((the fortune 500))) so fuck out of here with the Liberty meme
Justin Ramirez
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Wyatt Cruz
I'll try to look up some sources when I get home, surprisingly enough Hjalmar Schacht (yes the man that Sup Forums loves to accuse of being a puppet) warned about the impending collapse and was openly critical of the harsh reparation obligations imposed on Germany in the Treaty of Versailles. That being said all you really have to do is look at the sorry state of German logistics to realize that they weren't doing as good as they were letting on, they were still using horse drawn carriages to transport supplies and seized any trucks, trains and vehicles they could get when they annexed and invaded countries. Is that something a country that pulled off an "economic miracle" would do?
I'm not saying that Hitler didn't have Germany's best interest in mind, I'm just saying you should be careful about blindly idolizing Hitler's government lest you make the same mistakes he did.
Nicholas Rodriguez
>overuse of word autism obviously shill bitch I will stomp your shit in and come through your monitor and choke you with my mouse cord faggot if you run your lip again
Caleb Ramirez
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Owen Cook
checked.
Connor Jackson
Didn't some high up Nazi lament the fact that the movement was stifling creativity and was being too authoritarian when it came to the arts?
I think it was Goebbels
Jaxon Roberts
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James Kelly
lmao neck yourself
Leo Wilson
Both China and the US are jew-controlled
Xavier James
Your mothers cunt, faggot.
Carson Harris
Nazi Germany pre war was stated by many who visited to be one of the nicest places ever.
Zachary Butler
Those chinkers are basically jews anyways. Fuck chinks. >no morals >eat dogs >smell like shit
Charles Hernandez
Creators of (((modern art))) and (((pop music))) should be the first in line for the gas chambers. OP is a faggot
Robert Garcia
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Joseph Carter
The Jews used art and music to destroy white culture from within. Walk down any street in any American metropolis and observe the white youth dressing and acting like niggers while listening to rap and tell me I'm wrong.
Kayden Howard
it seems like OP agree with most nazi idealogy..even if you're not a fan, there were still the closet hope to stopping this madness
Robert Thomas
Yes and Dr aspergers was killed immediately after he discovered he had a disease, S mh
Liam Rogers
He's right you know, sadly I don't think it will ever happen. I'm very pessimistic.
>muh feefees: the post You win the biggest faggot of the night award.
Hunter Sanders
You're a fucking retard if you think this is an emotional argument at all. Can you not fucking read? Typical stormfaggot. Music is important and I'm not going to let some dumb ass arbitrarily decide what music I can and can't listen to and if you disagree its because you have no fucking mind of your own and don't deserve to be sharing this planet with me. Kill yourself untermensch.
Jackson Campbell
All I heard was.... >REEEEEEEEEEEEE IM A YUUUGEEEEE KIKE SHILLING FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEEE here kid, this memes for you
Carter Howard
>National Socialist Germany puts limits on things >Fascist I do not think you know what that flag means user.
Blake Rodriguez
A post from Sup Forums without any sources isn't real evidence.
I do recognize that the Third Reich was not perfect (i.e shitty machinery that broke, forcing Germans to seize Russian machinery) but it only had 6 years to stand up from its knees and clean the dirt from its face.
Luke Torres
Have you read the doctrine of fascism? I have. Nowhere in it does it say anything about banning jazz because you think its made by black jews you fucking dumbass
Kayden Watson
>"I'm a fascist, goy!" >"Oy vey, censorship of art is degenerate!"
One of these things is not like the other.
Andrew Brooks
Like I said I'll look into getting you some real sources, the post does provide some insight that correlates with what actually happened in the war, if you look it up for yourself you'll see that it all happened
Colton Moore
Again, show me where mussolini or any other fascist suggested this.
Jayden Rogers
>brainlet can't understand anything but boring diatonic shit In all seriousness, modern music as you know it would not exist without the development of 20th century jazz.
Nicholas James
>IL DUCE hahahahha Mussolini was a fucking failure, the only thing he accomplished was draining Pontine Marshes, he failed on all other points.
Whenever I hear Jazz now all I can think of are old cucks, >the cuckservative old dude who smokes cigars and plays jazz at poker night because he thinks it lends an air of class and sophistication >the crusty old failed trumpet/saz player who wears a daishiki because he thinks he's down with "the brothers" and played in a an acid jazz band in the 80s
Both of them are lame faggots and both of them would probably, or already have let black dudes screw their wives.
Jazz sucks. The only reason it became popular is because of Jews (as usual), and proto-numales trying to impress women by demonstrating that they've won the approval of the savage darky. Prime example: youtube.com/watch?v=VsEpYYQCZQY >Savage darkies working in the engine room >Passenger Fred Astaire goes down to hang around them and they accept him as one of their own because reasons >He then shows them that he's even cooler than they are and wins their respect with a dance number. >of course it all ends with the darkies bursting out into spontaneous applause demonstrating for all that Fred Astaire has not only been accepted by the negroes but proven his worth to them.
I mean no offense to Fred Astaire, the guy could dance, but it's all just so transparent.
Samuel Sanchez
The doctrine of any ideology is implicit. In a fascist society, anything that considered to be destructive to the fabric of that society is banned outright.
Pretty sure Mussolini didn't allow porno theatres. That's art, right? Yes. It's also degenerate as fuck.
It's clear that you aren't actually a fascist and you're just a pretty weak troll. Saged, hidden, reported. Kill yourself please.
Josiah Howard
>Music is important >I'm not going to let some dumb ass arbitrarily decide what music I can and can't listen
When did pol become a board for muh music, muh feels?
Ryder Miller
You can't judge German National Socialism from an Italian cultural point of view. Krauts are much more autistic than Italians when it comes to art and the arts, and can't really enjoy subtle transgressive elements without going full on degenerate. They did what was right for them.
t. Fasicst wop
Eli Hernandez
Anyone who thinks pic related can destroy a society is an actual retard.
Daniel James
hitler and the nazis lost to slavic subhuman communists which means the germans werent the master race after all
Jayden Martin
Anyone who thinks that's what anyone thinks(you) is retarded.
Anthony Thompson
Ok fucking moron. Then what exactly are you saying because all I am saying is I want a society where people can paint what they want to even if Hitler doesn't like it. What's in the picture would have been banned so what the fuck are you on about? You fucking dumbass nazi cock suckers are too stupid to even get your fucking arguments straight kill yourselves
Juan Hughes
>modern music Yeah no thanks. Jazz had some cool ideas but as a whole it's a pretty messy genre that lacks depth. >not understanding the nearly unlimited range a diatonic scale gives you It really does suck. I used to like it as a high schooler but now I find it all boring and uncreative.
Luis Torres
>slavic subhuman communists >entirely slavic
Isaiah Russell
who would ever disagree with you moron? Nigger you don't even understand what you are talking about. The Jews degenerate art was SPECIFICALLY designed to be degenerate not to be art which is why he fucking burned it.
Jacob Carter
>You fucking dumbass nazi cock suckers are too stupid to even get your fucking arguments straight kill yourselves t. person too stupid to cogently reply, and ends up typing a garbled rant. End yourself, American. And go read up on Mussolini who you so admire, you clearly don't know much about him or Italian history.
