NatSoc/Libertarianism alliance when?

NatSoc/Libertarianism alliance when?

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Never. NatSoc is DEAD.

Libertarians and socialists are polar opposites, regardless if you are nationalist or globalist...

I fucking hate socialism, but I'd embrace some temporary authoritarianism just to remove the leftist cancer.

fuck off natsoc scum, don't ever tread on my qt snek imouto again

>starts with lib

Into trash

NOW.

"I hate x, but i would do x" you like x then you daft idiot.
Don't get me wrong commies are far worst than retarded natsoc but there is no reason to perpetuate the need for socialists to stop communists, all that would need to be done is end welfare.

Sounds good. The only problem with that is what happens when those with authority get a feel for the power and don't want to give it up?

Communism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nat Soc

Maybe when Ancaps pull their heads out of their asses.

natsoc is radical centrism of communism

It's already here, once we remove leftists we can debate the best economic policy like reasonable adults, or agree to split the country evenly between us.

D&C retards get out.

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Go to hell bootlicker.

>Temporary authoritarianism
top kek

Not sure it would work.
Would libs be OK with us removing kebabs, niggers and kikes ?
OK with us beating degenerates and reeducate them ?
OK with us establishing a strong, loyal central authority ?
OK being called to arms to protect the race and the nation ?

I have doubts

AnCap/communist alliance when?

>implying that hasn't already happened IRL and worked extremely well

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Nat-Libertarian alliance

Fuk socialism

Christopher Cantwell (AnCap Prophet) recently went full 1488.

You can't form a revolution off of "please leave me alone please", and when more of these FUCKTARDS finally realize that, then we can form an "alliance".

Most people on this board are white nationalist, so yeah, I'd say we already have a common purpose. Not going to lie, though, I'm getting tired of explaining to sneks that NatSoc =/= (((socialism))).

>what are war powers

when did Gadsden become a "liberal" flag?

I like where your head's at, Pierre.

This. Nazism is over.

Also, blaming every single one of your problems on some shadowy cabal of ethnic supervillians is fucking childish.

>The libertarians need our help more than we need them
>Bootlickers are always the ones proposing the idea of an alliance
What do libertarians get by allying with statists?

>>what are war powers
Excuses to assert unjust authority. Like the patriot act, alien and sedition acts, and assassination of US citizens and their children without trials.

Not that America should ever be at war. We should let the world sort its own problems out, nobody has the means to invade the US anyway.

>nobody has the means to invade the US anyways
>pic related doesn't count somehow

And the current military and war powers the government has are fixing that how?

>(you) related

>US citizens
>muzzie shitskins
Kek, they shouldn't be citizens in the first place.
And you think we can set things right without fighting for it? There will be a war, like it or not. And the way it's going, if you're not willing to fight, you'll end up with a NatSoc state instead of a libertarian one (although honestly, they wouldn't be that different after the war finished).

Jews controlling the media and banks isn't "some shadowy cabal of ethnic supervillians ".
Why don't you debate me? Or are you too scared, kike?

They aren't because they aren't national socialist powers they are (((globalist))) powers. We currently have the worst of both worlds, and they're subsidizing an army of foreign leftists.

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You are genuinely autistic if you believe that crock. My biggest problem with the internet is that people will read infographs, see some "credible source" cited a the bottom and just believe it.

Please go outside and tell me that only 3.8% of us citizens are white.

Why don't you mention a single thing libertarians gain by aligning themselves with a dead ideology that is heavily condemned throughout the west.

>already live in a socialist state that is anti-white
>ally with 'socialists' who are pro-white, and they don't even believe in gibsmedats, just limited workfare and self-sufficiency
>End result is either a better, whiter 'socialist' state, or peaceful creation of separate snek state
You have nothing to lose.
>t. Judenschwein

Shit my bad user i confused the two blues

libertarianism >>>>>>>>>>>communism

And the solution to free ourselves is to put people who are expressly authoritarian in charge instead of just driving out the autocrats who seek to destroy our culture and take away our rights.

so you're not a libertarian

You're incorrectly viewing national socialism as a Marxist construct. Actually, you're incorrectly viewing national socialism as any kind of construct: it was a charismatic movement, not an ideology.

I guess what I'm telling you is that you're right while also not knowing what you're talking about.

See It's political suicide to out yourself as pro-Nazi (even though we should all be skeptical of our (((democracy))) at this point), but if we're talking about a civil war scenario, it's obvious that we have common interests.

>You have nothing to lose.
Except you know becoming more of an underground ideology due to allying with a far more condemned ideology and confirming the loss of our rights.

>tfw ancap so I can have the freedom to live in a natsoc community
The reason ancapism is so great is because you can work whatever political ideal you want with in, so long as it is voluntary and on your own property. There is nothing stopping you from building a Nazi community, or a socialist commune, on your own property. There is nothing stopping you from coming to agreement with your neighbours to never sell property or do business with non-whites, essentially keeping a racially pure community.

The two are totally compatible, but only if ancapism is "superior" and Nazism is subject to the NAP, so you can't go around annexing other people's property or anything, otherwise you essentially become barbarians grounds for extermination by other property owners in defense of their own property.

>white people not breeding is an invasion
>white culture going stale is an invasion
>white parents failing to pass on traditions and values is an invasion
>white people being primary supporters of leftist values is an invasion

ty for correcting, I made the same mistake first time I saw that infograph too.

Nah, in a civil war I would as soon line up and shoot the authoritarian right as I would the authoritarian left. Daily reminder that much of the current situation was set up during the early cold war where the primary focus of the right was anti-communism.

Leave to us the economy, we trust you on borders and ethno-nationalism. Deal?

>NatSoc =/= (((socialism))).
Except it does, you buffoon.

You think somebody will just give you your rights? You tell me, with a rapidly declining white population, and the corresponding surge is gibsmedat spics who vote for socialist commie garbage, when do you think libertarianism will ever become a potent force? Over time, if we don't take armed action, how can you possibly think things will get better?

Right now, it is probably best to disassociate yourselves from us. But when the shit hits the fan, remember we're in this together.

There is no reason national-libertarianism couldn't be a thing. Armed neutrality is a long existing concept. The nation exists for its inhabitants, not for other people, the freedoms ensured by the state exist only for the people of the nation. Essentially Americans first, Americans last, Americans only.

This.

We aren't allowed stop, or even slow immigration
We are forced to subsidize nonwhite welfare
We are forced to hire nonwhites.
We are forced to integrate with nonwhites
The media promotes miscegenation ceaselessly

>Hurrr as long as they don't force us at gunpoint to literally fuck nonwhites itz all voluntary!

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This. Beautiful thing about ancapism is hating on anyone you want without a state to tell you that hating is wrong. All you have to do is not be a bitch about it.

So you're saying you would rather maintain ideological purity than actually win a conflict, thereby securing the globalist victory and destruction of the white race.

OK.
Not the same thing. A person who refuses to work when he is able will receive nothing. A person who does work will receive nothing, because he is working.
The state will merely help people find work if necessary.

Compare that to our current nigletbux.

I made the statement and you're refuting it. You're debating ME, kike.

I do very much enjoy the idea that you assume I'm Jewish, because I don't agree with you. It's case-in-point your movement's paranoid obsession.

I'm not refuting the fact that Jews hold stations of power and wealth - what I refute is the idea that there is some unifying pan-global conspiracy actively working to undermine American values.

The most effective thing that the Jews have done is create America as it's protector, funding Israel and generally taking the Jew's side over everyone else in every situation. But even that has a longer history and a more complex explanation that some Learned Elders pulling puppet-strings from secret underground bunkers.

I would be fine with this.

I never opposed taking armed action against our oppressors. Libertarianism and even Anarcho-Capitalism aren't inherently pacifist by any means. What you are proposing is replacing iron chains for bronze chains, I'm proposing breaking the chains.

>So you're saying you would rather maintain ideological purity than actually win a conflict, thereby securing the globalist victory and destruction of the white race.
You are saying the same, if you truly cared about the white race than you would simply assimilate with the larger ideology, instead you demand ideological purity and a mere alliance. Besides it is better for the white race to die with its honour intact than to survive as a race of weak servile followers who surrendered their freedom for security.

Hows that been working out for ya??
You aren't demonized in the media like us, clearly you should be in charge now if it was that easy!

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Never! NatSoc want more government in every aspect of their life. Libertarianism wants less government and more freedom.

is right.

BUT:
>Islationism: No imperialism
>Eliminate gun control AFTER physically removing commies

>tactically retarded

As I said, the best thing is a temporary alliance to cast off the chains, then we can get to defining our borders. I actually like as an idea. Maybe the heartland could be a libertarian area, with border marches being militarized and NatSoc? We each get what we want, and it can work quite well within a federal system or a condominium.

>temporary authoritarianism

So you think the government would just give up their power?

No problem, lad. I might want to support some interventions to help whites take back Europe, though. Purely voluntary, however--the state shouldn't tax you sneks.

>How dare someone want to be free

NatSocs are delusional retards who will forever stay LARPing in their mothers basements

You're right, i'm sorry.

NatSoc and Snek (not lolbertarians, those niggers are retarded) are natural allies who can be expected to answer the calls of the other.

It's not as if there's any possibility of an alliance with lefty trash, after all.

((()))

Look >Eliminate gun control AFTER physically removing commies

When the area is clean, is time to secession

Yeah those evil capitalists let's take them down, oh woops I mean jews

Based niggers will totally sort themselves out and stop being subhuman trash if they have the free market

Exactly

What will happen to the democrats when they can run as "The Party of the Minority"

Israel isn't the problem. The kikes in our own countries are. And usury-based (((capitalism))) helps no one. Certainly not small business owners.

Unexpected and appreciated. Thank you.

Here's a naked woman as an olive branch.

>As I said, the best thing is a temporary alliance to cast off the chains, then we can get to defining our borders.
The way I see it the best I can do is use your followers as lemmings to gain ground and then betray you as the war comes to a close before you can betray us. National socialists will always be a threat to freedom whether they inhabit our nation or not. Remember that Hitler annexed lands that opposed annexation and had no German majority even before WW2 started.

This is the dumbest post I've ever seen on Sup Forums

A private squad of volunteers hired by the state would look good

Never.

The two are diametrically opposed.

Hitler dindu nuffin
he a gud boi
But seriously, most of the NatSocs here just want white countries again. I think you're just being a bit jumpy where it isn't warranted.

Get the fuck out newfag, Sup Forums was always like that.

Then why classify themselves as national socialists if socialism isn't a core part of their ideology? I'm a national libertarian and both libertarianism and nationalism is a core part of my ideology. Take away the national portion and you have the modern librtarian party who are the second best goyim. Take away the libertarian portion and you have an ideology akin to Juche.

Fuck off, retard. Nazism and Libertarianism are incompatible.

A Libertarian Nationalist. I think I've found my home.

>Sup Forums has always been stupid
I mean you are right but it doesn't make your post less stupid.

> discussing the possibility of two utopian ideologies ever existing in a first world country again on a Taiwanese rice selling board.
How many of you are serious ?

You ought to have the freedom to be a Nazi on your own property.

Why would I submit to the NAP if me and my people have the power to take what is yours? Why should I not improve the livelihood of my people by taking what belongs to foreigners? Is it not my responsibility as a leader to ensure the well-being of my people?

"The strong will do as they please and the weak will suffer what they must."; That's what the Athenians told the people of Melos before they razed their city, had the men killed and the women and children enslaved.

As long as there's just one faction that does not submit to the NAP you're essentially forced to create some kind of state for the purpose of defending against that faction. And for that state to function you need some kind of organisation. And that in turn requires some kind of funds gathered through taxation, and in the end you're left with the very same structure we have today.

Juche is just a fancy word for autarky. I'm not even that much of an authoritarian by nature, and my ideal life would be farming my own plot of land away from it all. I'm a 'socialist' in the sense that I think the white nation needs to be reformed to give everyone a shot at self-sufficiency, then with some moral controls to keep the commies out, I'd pretty much be a libertarian.

Of course, but attempting to enforce it on others would be a violation of the NAP.

If people want to dress their child prostitute mercenaries up in little SS uniforms, more power to them. I can set up a company that makes Einsatzgruppen uniforms for toddlers.

Libertarianism is just the newest thing the Jew's are pushing to prevent the people from becoming Nat Soc.

Libertarianism is incompatible with National Socialism in every single way imaginable

Some histrionic left lolbertarians may screech otherwise, since they like the current zeitgeist, but Sup Forums always had a pragmatic view on the culture aspect even though there is differences on economic aspects.
It's a faux purity spiral really, standard divide and conquer shilling and newfags as usual

>Juche is just a fancy word for autarky.
And you know the state sending you and your entire family to a work camp for questioning the state or direction of the nation while 30% of the population are part of the armed forces. Not to mention low standards of living and famine.

Nonsense. Sup Forums has never drawn a consensus on anything, because Sup Forums isn't a face to any political group. The plurality of those here are actually centrist.

>to prevent the people from becoming Nat Soc

Yes because we're all just itching to have a tyrannical government

>Of course, but attempting to enforce it on others would be a violation of the NAP.
Obviously, I mentioned that earlier, on your own property or properties owned by people under some kind of contractual agreement you would be able to, in theory, participate in whatever political system you wished, as long as it does not violate the NAP.