>Hey guys my phone operator company just stroke a deal with whatsapp so I can't text without spending my data package, oh wait Net Neutrality won't allow it because it is not fair to other texting apps. Too bad....
Prove net neutrality is no just outright communism.
PROTIP: You can't.
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if my phone company did that, you know what I and every reasonable person would do?
stop using them.
Yeah, because all ISPs offer the same products, coverage, prices and there's no such thing as cartels or monopolies
If ISP's can charge for a certain priority, one of two things happen:
1) you buy a better service and your average bandwidth becomes unchanged since said service has now higher priority
2) you remain as you are but your QoS decreases
Either way you lose either money or QoS. You could just write a charity check and give it to ComCast. They will gladly accept it.
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>+1 for Stefania Ferrario, my favorite thunderdyke
What's wrong with communism faggot. The entire Internet is communism
What is the point in posting such picture?
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Network Neutrality is fucking garbage.
>We love playing games on the Nintendo Switch and online functionality has been a discussion as of late. I'm not one to pontificate on issues like this however I feel this affects all of us as gamers.
>As many of you have probably seen on the Reddit front page, today is the day the Internet is coming together to protest US legislation aimed at limiting what we love about our online interactions. If net neutrality is done away with, the liberty we have for free online communications in gaming could be jeopardized. Internet service providers receiving compensation from large companies could throttle speeds or prioritize speeds for many of us.
Can someone explain to me how a lack of net neutrality would affect online console gaming? Like at all? I honestly don't get it.
What do you mean by spending data package?
To get your penis to make you click on the thread.
Well it fucking worked
Gross
Companies could charge you or the people who host online secrets to pay money to not have unplayable lag.
every thread about NN is full of ignorance
the entire Internet relies on fast lanes to work properly.
NN sucks. Government control of Internet sucks. Piss off NN nerds.
Stefania is one of the hottest females of all time, i need me a strong short haired gf to have fascist children with
I already Comcast to mich damn money for them to allowed to throttle my fonts t nn is the best shit. You fuck off.
>prove it's not communism
I still have to pay my isp for access to the internet.
>Government controls
What government controls faggot? All they monitor is if the ISP does not discriminate traffic.
You fags are ignorant as fuck!
If an ISP does shady stuff, then people will stop using it and go to a different one, won't they? That's the basis of capitalism.
Except there's a whopping 6 isp's in America who are almost all jew owned. It's not like how if a store does something you don't like you can go to another one because sometimes you can only have 1 isp where you live
Except most of the time you only have two or three to choose from, and they have you by the balls.
>Then just lower the barrier to become an ISP!
I agree, though this should come first.
user is right, where I live there is only Verizon shitty DSL for like 10 megs and comcast is the only other that has above 50
ISP's refuse to compete with each other, instead they all stay in their own territory, effectively localized monopolies.
You are not able to go to a competitor in large parts of the US.
Ergo, net neutrality must be maintained.
>shady stuff
Every single one of them is permitted to charge you a service based on both bandwidth and priority. What shady stuff? This starts from the backbone itself (whoever is at the very top and holds the lines) to the bottom.
Belgian telecompanies do this.
If I take a subscription with Proximus, the largest provider, they offer unlimited mobile network for WhatsApp.
It's disgusting.
Let me just switch to an ISP that isn't operating in my city...
Shareblue and shill companies would not be able to freely manipulate people. Twitter, Facebook, Google could not outright ban people for saying things they do not like, can no selectively choose which hate groups get banned and which continue to operate. Companies designed to be used by political means would outright end as it would be against the law according to current laws. Anyone crying about tiered service is a fucking moron, as almost all of the U.S. already has this kind of choice for their services, including internet. 1st amendment laws prevents ISPs from blocking access to sites, as the reason for ending the fucking net neutrality in the first fucking place.
>then people will stop using it and go to a different one, won't they? That's the basis of capitalism
mmmm, is that what you whisper to yourself as mr.monopoly and mr.bailout fuck your ass and mouth?
>>Hey guys my phone operator company just stroke a deal with whatsapp so I can't text without spending my data package
So you stop using WhatsApp and use one of the literally thousands of alternative competing services.
What foolish citizenry favour just one merchant with their spending! What errant fools and rustic peoples permit their made-powerful merchant maligns to connive and coerce and control the way in which the people disperse with their coin to further his benefit and increase himself and his estate!
But then, the remedy is there without need for appealing to the governor. If the general citizenry decline to support any other merchant in opposition to their created tyrant, and many such merchants abound and would gladly serve the people's needs in satisfaction of their own. For "when the pitcher met the rock and the rock met the pitcher, it was bad for both of them", and "those who go out to hunt flee home preyed-upon", and "laws go where tyrants want them to" and etc.
My God, I see no need for binding dictums on the freedom of others in the market to boon the citizenry too dull in their own choices to abandon within their volition and free will the very evils they claim to be oppressed by.
> hurr my massive overextended regulations made it too hard for newcomers and entrepreneurs to enter the market better just go full communist
Kill yourself
i kinda agree. i think the impact of having net neutrality repealed is way overblown. websites seem to want you to think YOU will be impacted by this in some way... no. the websites will. they don't want to pay more, or their fair share, for the bandwidth they are using through the ISPs.
sites like Twitch would get slammed simply because they are a bandwidth hog, and the IPSs are expected to keep their infrastructure up and pay for everything related so their end users can use the content.
Netflix especially would shit it's pants if neutrality was repealed. they'll actually have to pay for the massive amounts of bandwidth they use up.
Okay young one, explain to me how one would enter the market in the US?
For starters, the physical cables are not owned by the government like in a normal country, where ISP's rent them. Instead they're owned by the cable company.
Good luck trying to frontload the billions required to start your own infrastructure to compete with Verizon.
Kill yourself already
How will this effect porn streaming? Specifically foreign porn streaming?
>Good luck trying to frontload the billions required to start your own infrastructure to compete with Verizon.
If the margins are high enough you will have no problem raising the money
Twitch and Netflix don't use any bandwidth. The customers of those websites do.
Saying this won't affect them is like saying a higher minimum wage won't affect the customer either. It's full retard and not how the market works.
The end result will ALWAYS be some fuckery that the customer now has to deal with. Repealing net neutrality would make it legal not to charge more for usage (this is already the case), it would make it legal to charge more for services the ISP doesn't like.
It would completely destroy the free market on the Internet. Companies would have to pay protection fees else they get gagged out of business.
Internet at this point is no longer a product, it's a platform and a market for products itself.
Net neutrality is equivalent to free trade. Removing net neutraltiy is equivalent to the government (the ISP in this analogy) to manipulate the market.
THIS
inb4 commies sperging autistically about the evils of capitalism
Gook detected
>international package
>$60 / month
>porn package
>$100 / month
WHAT ARE YOU??
POOR?
> See; Google
Just because I'm not smart enough to come up with some plan doesn't mean it does not exist.
There's also ways to ensure the same basic consumer protections afforded by net neutrality without the government basically taking over the entire market.
Why was in needed in 2015?
NN is a solution in search of a problem
Don't know about where you live but here, Verizon is king. We can't just switch providers, Sprint and the little ones are total shit, and everyone knows it, so verizon has us over a barrel.
Comcast owns: MSNBC, Univision, Telemundo.
Time Warner owns: CNN. Soon to merge with AT&T.
Charter/Cox: Love to shit on newscorp, conservative media.
These are the companies that hate net neutrality, and want to control your internet.
you are stupid if you don't think a site like netflix won't pass the cost on to the customer.
The Net Neutrality Bill was passed in October 2016 by Obama literally as the nigger was pardoning criminals on his way out of the white house. What do these companies gain by shilling for keeping it in place so much?
The big 3 telecomms companies are against it because it opens up the avenue for new business to open and destroy their iron grasp on marketing and advertising. That is all this is about. They pick and choose what you see, and waive the idea that net neutrality is good for you and me, when it is only good for them.
I still don't quite understand all this shit. Is this the same as SOPA a few years back? Everyone seems to be treating it the same out in normieland. I can't really find anyone talking about it other than saying "NET NEUTRALITY BEING REMOVED WILL CHANGE THE INTERNET FOREVER" without saying what the fucking bill or law or measure will actually change.
notice how google/facebook/twitter started outright banning accounts who were pro-right?
yeah, that
From what I've read of it the bill basically allows all the companies to legally price-fix without raising suspicion.
Time Warner is not an ISP you dumb nigger
Also I cant wait for AT&T to buy them and shoah that kike Zucker
So we want it gone then, as opposed to getting rid of it? Why would companies want to protect it if it's going to hurt them by moving people to smaller, slower ISPs.
There's nothing capitalistic about the cable/internet provider industry at all. It's a completely overregulated industry that naturally led to usually 1-3 providers controlling any given area.
For this whole thing to reach a satisfactory conclusion, that industry needs to be deregulated to provide actual competition. Notice how laughibly behind the times they are technologically. I have Time Warner cable boxes and it's mid-90s tier technology.
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I don't see the problem in the current debate.
Currently we have neutral ISP services
Non neutral services may compete with cheaper price, but if consumers don't want them they can still remain with the neutral services.
Because people are stupid and won't give up their conveniences regardless of the cost.
the problem is that there are a single digit number of ISPs who own cables, and they are all infamous for refusing to compete. All four of them were go non-neutral and there's nothing anyone can do but take corporate dick and pay more for shit we already have, while our speeds continue to lag behind the rest of the world.
Why didn't they do this pre-October 2016?
>cartellism isn't a thing no company would ever work together with competitors for mutual benefit also if there's only a handful of viable choices I'm sure one will fuck up their shared gain as a potential risky investment
t. libertardian
how is this not ironic?
you realize capitalism tends towards monopolies, and the only thing saving us from ISP's further raping us is regulation (net neutrality) right?
watching cuckistan retards sucking on the corporate shill cock trying to justify allowing cable companies to censor anything they want is just pathetic.
This very thread, this very website simply woulldn't exist if the ISP independently didn't like it.
And since they all gather around in closed door meeting to discuss pricing and how to rape us further, surely the OTHER (3) isp's will make Sup Forums available right? wrong. they can pick and choose which sites get seen, and which get seen fastest, further increasing the companies control over our minds. you thought brainwashing by media was bad before? lmao watch when they simply block news websites that don't support their adgenda.
And why didn't they do this pre-October 2016?
They tried, Multiple times.
Regulation didn't cause this. The companies refuse to compete against other and have functional monopolies. If anything we need more regulation to break this up.
LOL
We had the internet for fucking years that was just fine and dandy and enjoyable. it only became a fucking issue because with net neutrality, it allowed a group to outright control what people were seeing. sure, it allowed all groups to do this, but the groups that controlled the sites that the most people used? yeah, it was for THEIR gain. the left used it to suppress any discussion or gathering of the right online. before it passed? the internet was just fucking fine and you know it.
Stop being a pussy and make your own then. If it's that bad be part of the solution.
Okay so why wasn't it before Obama put the bill in place hastily on his way out October 2017?
Normies are behind it and are spouting your bullcrap, Obama was behind it when his picked candidate wasn't winning, the FCC was almost instantly against it. That makes me suspicious of keeping it.
and what was stopping them?
This. Free markets would solve everything.
The problem is government (whether local or not) giving ISPs a monopoly. Fix that, you fix the 'net neutrality' problem.
>If we make it cost more, rich Jews wouldn't use it! Also politics and banning people from private websites would be illegal somehow because that costs money and there is no money in politics lol
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Are you ankeks really this detached from life?
So it's politically motivated for enforcing censorship?
Regulation did cause this you retard, regulations that gave ISPs a local monopoly, preventing outsiders to come in and compete.
WTF I LOVE COMCAST NOW
Look at fucking Romanian internet you idiot. Your Messiah Bernie Sanders praised them. No regulations and they have among the best in the world.
Is this shit like the FED? They will try again and again to sort what services they can benefit, to brainwash the goys? Cyber is the new structure of the superstructure Marx described.
Is this politically motivated or profit only?
>What did he mean by this?
OP, for once you are not a faggot. The crux of the argument is this: Should we let private corporations make voluntary business decisions that customers can readily influence, or should we allow the State total regulatory control of the internet?
It's an intelligence test really...
net neutrality allows the left to block and ban the right on the internet so it cant be seen since its leftist faggots who run google/youtube/twitter. once net neutrality is abolished we go back to actual open and free internet
What do they have to gain by this bill put into place by OBAMA in 2016 OCTOBER?
Seems like a local problem, not a Federal one. My internet is fine.
This is bait.
there is no proof of any of this bullshit that you just spewed.
because congress opposed bills that would give them this much control in the past? are you fucking retarded? get off your "obama is the root of all evil" horse and do some research.
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do some research shill apologist
what
>do some research shill apologist
not an argument
Lmao it's the exact opposite.
Google isn't an ISP
>hey guys
>my phone operator just stroke a deal with whatsapp so I can't text without spending my data package
>do you know any operator that isn't a fascist cunt about mobile data?
>ah thanks, I'll look into them
That's net neutrality.
The scenario you suggest is retarded too, why would you be bummed about your operator not being able to fuck you over?
That has literally nothing to do with nn, you're just blaming random unrelated shit on it at this point.
there's a link directly above the reply to you man of low intelligence and molymemeing
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Actually they are in the US.
Different companies offer different quality of service at different prices!? Outrageous!! What do you think this is? A free market??
You Brockpuppets are really pushing this thing, huh? Consider meeting with your team lead for up-training.
You've got no argument, fuck off.
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Romanian internet is better. How many monopolies do they have?
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Oh hm. Looks like none.
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Deregulating ISPs locally would allow small, local ISPs to serve customers and neighborhoods.
That has nothing to do with net neutrality, what have you been smoking?
>ISP
>net neutrality
they come together my bluepilled friend
I agree. The local customers should raise a couple million dollars to lobby for creating their own network so the conglomerate will stop Jewing them out of using their product.
I've tried figuring out whether net neutrality is good or bad, but I'm not entirely certain. What I do know is that people I hate like it and people I like hate it, so I'm tempted to say it's shit.
Okay, but what is their coverage area? And also they became a multi billion company BEFORE they started their ISP shenanigans, being the exact sample of why emerging industry doesn't work as an upstart in the ISP sector.
Saying there are only six ISPs is like saying McDonalds, Burger King, and Subway are the only restaurants.
They're the biggest companies, not the only companies. Between lower-speed DSL startups, satellite internet, mobile internet, etc there are hundreds of ISPs in the US and even most small rural towns have access to at least two or three alternatives
Literally the opposite of that. Show proof.