Why do believers of god identify theirself with tags like christian,muslim and jew

why do believers of god identify theirself with tags like christian,muslim and jew.

In the end there is one god.He sent all holly books and god himself choosed prophets to warn people around the world.So all propeths are equal.They were just messenger.They tried to serve god.

So after all of this how can people identity theirself with theese tags.Because in front of god, this is meaningless.They are just human made categories.

In addtion i believe that books have been changed and some socities denied their prophets and it message, for example jesus killed and the message that he brought was changed into father-son-holy spirit form.But it was about god is the one and after die you willl be judged by him.So it was the same message which mohammed is told by god.

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The EU will do more bad to Europe than good in the end.

Keep Islam in Arabia and Christianity in Europe. The EU wants Islam in Europe. Ridiculous.

Everyone thinks that if they believe harder than the others, they'll get good boy point irl. as far as i'm concerned, everyone who believes in sky man that will fix their problems is wasting their time.

Because Jews and Muslims worship a different God than Christians

this is just opinon and nature of belief is beyond this circle. you are not either right or wrong.you just believe something.

>In addtion i believe that books have been changed and some socities denied their prophets and it message, for example jesus killed and the message that he brought was changed into father-son-holy spirit form.But it was about god is the one and after die you willl be judged by him.So it was the same message which mohammed is told by god.

In other words, you're a Muslim.

You're illiterate, >>lit

convince me? if god is the one.He did choosed prophets, am i right? and i see that god can not sent different message to each prophet.

so you are gonna ask me, why there are different prophets? because their message is changed.Jesus is not son of god.nobody can be son of god.But fundementals of christianity has been changed like this.Then god decided to send new prophet but same message again

this is short story of all abrahamic religions

Wants to talk about religion, fly's EU Flag.

IRONY!

Christians have a different concept of God than Muslims. Allah is the most powerful conceived thusfar, and that is why His adherents are driven to more 'profound' behaviours. Christians have the Christ, who compels us to "carry our own cross" which leads to a healthier social culture, as the individual's problems don't become everyone's problem.

i am talking out of contexts, but if you ask me i am muslim but being muslim is meaningless, do you see that?

there is no difference for me between mohammmed,jesus,mousa,abraham they were just served god

If you have motivation to learn something in fairly short time. Watch this youtube.com/watch?v=TZXSo1rDNX8 peak of all interviews in universe, he literally talks about what you asked and touches everything Sup Forums related.

>Whoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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Amen brother

>Allah is the most powerful conceived thusfar, and that is why His adherents are driven to more 'profound' behaviours
but this is not about god, this is the result of ignorant idiots.

Also if europeans had islam, it will be better, because you already have developed societs.But i am talking about the fundementals of our religions.

Islam has demoted Jesus to being a prophet. Not Cool.

If Jesus wasn't the Messiah, then Jews have nothing to worry about.

As for Christians who are onside with the Lord; they go to Heaven, everyone else goes to Hell.

That's the deal.

How dare you spread this heresy that heathens follow the same god as I.
Deus Vult!

dude can god as a concept have children? or can god sleep? if there is a force that created time and this universe, it must be like nothing,If it needs sleep so it is as weak as us.

in my belief which every prophet tried to tell ther people is god is the one and there is no like him.In the end all of us will judged by him. (judgement day) as last he is the reason of our existence

>Why do Jews identify as Jews?
Because the torah establishes requirements for certain lineages.

we may worship the same god of Abraham but unlike the Jews, Christians aren't out to watch the world burn and unlike the muslims we don't blow up buildings

>Islam has demoted Jesus to being a prophet.
this is false.In front of god all of us must be equal and only god can judge us and save us, no mohammed, no jesus no anybody

they killed jesus because they did not like what he said then they changed the message that he brought.

Messiah is the god himself.

god must be drunk that he send different religions at different times, am i right?

but in fact, people changed the form of message, they created other little god beside the only one god

also god must be cruel, if he only sent a religion to jews or christians or muslims
they all claim, they are premium members of god...

so who is right? god or we?

It's some dude copypasta'ing on various boards.

Mohammed is a false prophet, allah is a pagan moon god, and Islam denies the divinity of Christ.
It's clear that you don't believe in any of these religions so why bother trying to unite them when any true believer knows they cannot be reconciled.
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Allah is an Arabic term for “God.” It is a contraction of al-ilah (“the god”; al = “the” / ilah = “god”). Although Allah was one of the many deities of the pre-Islamic, polytheistic Arabs, he was apparently considered the highest god in the pagan pantheon and the creator of the world. Muhammad’s tribe, the Quraysh, held Allah (and Allah’s daughters al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat) in high esteem. Indeed, Muhammad’s father was named “Abdullah,” which means “slave of Allah.”

Muhammad followed an Arab group called the Sabians in proclaiming that Allah is the only true God. In the Qur’an, Allah is described as the creator of the world (41:9-12), who is all-powerful (2:106), all-knowing (33:40), wise (57:1), merciful (1:1), and just (11:45). A characteristic description of Allah is found in Qur’an 59:22-24:

He is Allah besides Whom there is no god; the Knower of the unseen and the seen; He is the Beneficent, the Merciful. He is Allah, besides Whom there is no god; the King, the Holy, the Giver of peace, the Granter of security, Guardian over all, the Mighty, the Supreme, the Possessor of every greatness. Glory be to Allah from what they set up (with Him). He is Allah the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner; His are the most excellent names; whatever is in the heavens and the earth declares His glory; and He is the Mighty, the Wise.

While a Christian would have no objections to this description of God, the Qur’an adds qualifications that make the Islamic concept of God theologically unacceptable. Allah is not a Trinity (4:171; 5:73; 5:116); he is a Father to no one (5:18; 19:88-93; 21:26); he has no love for unbelievers (3:32); and he is the “best of deceivers” (3:54; 8:30).

allah means el-ilah = the god, it is pagans choice, they could say god too

>Islam denies the divinity of Christ.
this is bullshit, in islam every prophets are equal and jesus is one of prominent prophet like moses,abraham,noah and mohamed

Are you stupid? None of the religions accept that the other two are truly legitimate.

Jews don't recognize any prophets after the age of prophets. Christianity and Islam are heresies. Christians recognize the teachings of the Jews, but recognize them as incomplete as they lack the later teachings of Christ. Islam recognizes both the teachings of the Jews, and the Christians, but sees them as incomplete or altered by dishonest scribes.

In Jewish logic, God is good. In the most literal sense. All things God does are inherently good. as Good = God. God gave the Jews the torah as a gift for being the only people that in their logic accepted a deal with God without asking any questions. "We will do and we will hear."

Christians are God's premium members because they have accepted God's redemption, likewise God and Good are difficult concepts in Christianity that more educated men than I have debated. Islam makes a similar claim to being the true followers of the word of god through the recitations; God and Good are similar to the Jewish tradition..

Well Islam just means submission to God

How come in this time and day people still believe religions that were creations of mighty ancient persons to control the lower people.
People weren't scared by law, so they had to make a thing called religion. If you didn't do as your told you go to hell, etc. It's so simple and primitive.

Some say atheism is evil people trying to weaken christians, but I don't think it's true. Aren't we intelligent enough to be holding together as ethnic group?
I think if every religion would be thrown away it would help all people on earth.
If we look back at a time long ago we can see that christianity was forced upon us anyway.

Jesus is equal to God and of the same being as God. He is not a prophet.

Nice try, Achmed, but you failed.

it seems you are the most educated person in this thread, i read everything you wrote, thanks

> Qur’an adds qualifications that make the Islamic concept of God theologically unacceptable. Allah is not a Trinity (4:171; 5:73; 5:116); he is a Father to no one (5:18; 19:88-93; 21:26); he has no love for unbelievers (3:32); and he is the “best of deceivers” (3:54; 8:30).

but this is why god sent islam to mohammed.Because this where islam starts.If christians were not changed the fundementals, there will be no islam.If you check the short story of all abrahamic religions you will withness same thing.God sent prophet, they either kill it or changes it is message.

In Quran, it says this is the last book and it will be protected (15/9)

also if you check the main prayings which muslims reads, you ll see what main focus is all about

1. Say: He, Allah, is the only and One.
2. Allah is He on Whom all depend.
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten.
4. And none is like Him.

Sura Fatiha

1. In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
2. All praise is for Allah, Lord of the Worlds,
3. The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful
4. Master of the Day of Judgment
5. You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help
6. Guide us to the Straight Way,
7. The way of those upon whom You have bestowed Grace, not of those who earned Your Anger, nor of those who went astray

The validity of Islam is intimately linked to the reliability of Muhammad. That is, if there are solid reasons to conclude that Muhammad was a reliable messenger of God, we may reasonably suppose that Islam is true. However, if there are strong reasons to question Muhammad’s trustworthiness, Islam self-destructs.


The earliest Muslim writings and traditions, including the Qur’an, Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah, the Sahih Al-Bukhari, and the Sahih Muslim, provide abundant warrant for rejecting Muhammad as a prophet. The primary source documents show that Muhammad was often violent and ruthless towards those who insulted him, that he received revelations allowing him to transgress other revelations in the Qur’an.
In addition to all this, we have reason to suspect that Muhammad suffered from either mental disease or demonic influence. The evidence from the earliest accounts of his life shows that he may have been psychologically or spiritually unstable before, during, and after his conversion to Islam. When this instability is combined with other facts surrounding the life of Muhammad, it is difficult to fathom how Muslim apologists have managed to convince millions of adherents that Islam is a rational system of belief.

Data suggesting that Muhammad was imbalanced goes all the way back to his childhood. His parents died when he was young, so he was brought up by his grandfather and his uncle. Muhammad had a nurse who took care of him prior to his mother’s death. This nurse relates the following account of a strange event that occurred during Muhammad’s childhood:

Some months after our return [Muhammad] and his brother were with our lambs behind the tents when his brother came running and said to us, "Two men clothed in white have seized that Qurayshi brother of mine and thrown him down and opened up his belly, and are stirring it up." We ran towards him and found him standing up with a livid face. We took hold of him and asked him what was the matter. He said, "Two men in white raiment came and threw me down and opened up my belly and searched therein for I know not what." So we took him back to our tent.

His father said to me, "I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so take him back to his family before the result appears." So we picked him up and took him to his mother who asked why we had brought him when I had been anxious for his welfare and desirous of keeping him with me. I said to her, "God has let my son live so far and I have done my duty. I am afraid that ill will befall him, so I have brought him back to you as you wished." She asked me what happened and gave me no peace until I told her. When she asked if I feared a demon possessed him, I replied that I did."

Muhammad’s nurse wasn’t the only one to fear demonic possession on the part of Muhammad; the Prophet himself came to the exact same conclusion when he began receiving revelations from Gabriel. A full account of Muhammad’s first encounter with Gabriel is given in the Sirat Rasul Allah:

When it was the night on which God honoured him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’—and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said:

‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created,
Who created man of blood coagulated.
Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent,
Who taught by the pen,
Taught that which they knew not unto men.’

So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart."

Except Christians & Jews don't bow to a "space rock" that's actually Lucifer, and call it the right hand of god

Easy, they were born among other Jews/Christian/Muslims. Most people are content with being sheep and questioning nothing.

Evidence shows that Muhammad couldn’t always tell the difference between revelations from God and revelations from Satan. The most famous example of Muhammad’s inability to distinguish the true from the false is the embarrassing account of the notorious "Satanic Verses":

Now the apostle was anxious for the welfare of his people, wishing to attract them as far as he could. . . . When the apostle saw that his people turned their backs on him and he was pained by their estrangement from what he brought them from God he longed that there should come to him from God a message that would reconcile his people to him. Because of his love for his people and his anxiety over them it would delight him if the obstacle that made his task so difficult could be removed. . . . Then God sent down "By the star when it sets your comrade errs not and is not deceived, he speaks not from his own desire," and when he reached His words "Have you thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat the third, the other", Satan, when he was meditating upon it, and desiring to bring it to his people, put upon his tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq [Numidian cranes] whose intercession is approved." When the Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him; while the believers were holding that what their prophet brought them from their Lord was true, not suspecting a mistake or a vain desire or a slip, and when he reached the prostration and the end of the Sura in which he prostrated himself the Muslims prostrated themselves when their prophet prostrated confirming what he brought and obeying his command, and the polytheists of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated when they heard the mention of their gods, so that everyone in the mosque believer and unbeliever prostrated ...

>Are you stupid? None of the religions accept that the other two are truly legitimate.

yeah human made religions can have these aspects, but i believe god is bigger than us.So nobody can claim that they are closer god than me.expect their relationship through god himself.

Also god itself is beyond traditions.

I see jews and christians logics.But there is always lack in their ways, as an example

in modern christianity, you make confession to priest to feel better.But in islam you are not allowed to add someone between god and you check (50/16)

Then the people dispersed and the Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion. He alleged in what he read that they are the exalted Gharaniq whose intercession is approved."

The news reached the prophet’s companions who were in Abyssinia, it being reported that Quraysh had accepted Islam, so some men started to return while others remained behind. Then Gabriel came to the apostle and said, "What have you done, Muhammad? You have read to these people something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did not say to you." The apostle was bitterly grieved and was greatly in fear of God. So God sent down (a revelation), for He was merciful to him, comforting him and making light of the affair and telling him that every prophet and apostle before him desired as he desired and wanted what he wanted and Satan interjected something into his desires as he had on his tongue. So God annulled what Satan had suggested and God established His verses, i.e. you are just like the prophets and apostles. Then God sent down: "We have not sent a prophet or apostle before you but when he longed Satan cast suggestions in his longing. But God will annul what Satan has suggested. Then God will establish his verses, God being knowing and wise."[11]

This passage shows:

Muhammad’s reception of revelations was influenced by his personal desires;
He received a revelation from Satan;
He proclaimed the revelation as a message from Allah;
He and his followers bowed down in honor of receiving the revelation; and
God’s response was, in effect, "Don’t worry about it Muhammad. All prophets proclaim Satanic messages from time to time."

Indeed, God’s response to Muhammad was incorporated into the Qur’an:

"And We did not send before you any apostle or prophet but when he desired, the Shaitan made a suggestion respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which the Shaitan casts, then does Allah establish His communications, and Allah is Knowing, Wise."

Hence, Satan was capable of influencing both Muhammad and, allegedly, all the prophets before him. But Satan wasn’t the only influence on Muhammad. A Jewish magician named Labid was also able to exercise control over the "Seal of the Prophets."

Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: "Once the Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact, he had not done."

Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle (may the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) so that he used to think that he had had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. Then one day he said, "O Aisha, do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head asked the other: ‘What is wrong with this man?’ The latter replied, ‘He is under the effect of magic.’ The first one asked, ‘Who has worked magic on him?’ The other replied, ‘Labid bin Al-Asam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.’ The first one asked, ‘What material did he use?’ The other replied, ‘A comb and the hair stuck to it.’"

Ibn Ishaq also reports that "Labid bin A’sam . . . bewitched the apostle of God so that he could not come at his wives." Guillaume adds a note saying that, according to tradition, "the spell lasted for a year."

According to the earliest and most reliable Muslim writings and traditions, Muhammad’s first impression of his divine encounter was that he had been possessed by demons. This encounter disturbed Muhammad so much that he became suicidal. Further, we have a story in Ibn Ishaq, the earliest biography of Muhammad, maintaining that the childhood nurse of the Prophet also thought that he might be demon-possessed. Some of the details of Muhammad’s encounter seem to support this conclusion. He was sometimes terrified of his revelations, screaming for someone to cover him. He would sweat profusely even in the cold, and his face would change color. Additionally, Muhammad could not distinguish genuine revelations from Satanic revelations, and he was the victim of a debilitating magic spell that probably lasted a year.

In the West, Muhammad’s critics are quick to claim that he was possessed by demons. Although we have some evidence to support this claim, the conclusion is perhaps too hasty. We know that there was certainly something wrong with Muhammad, but we don’t have data sufficient to warrant such a harsh judgment. However, the evidence is entirely sufficient for a rational person to seriously doubt Muhammad’s reliability as a prophet. A man who (admittedly) proclaimed verses from Satan and fell victim to sorcery while declaring himself to be God’s greatest messenger should not be trusted without exceptionally good evidence to support his claim. Since no such evidence for Islam exists, we are justified in questioning his role as God’s messenger.

Moreover, when we examine the life of another messenger of God, Jesus of Nazareth, we find that Muhammad is to be utterly rejected. Consider one of Jesus’ many encounters with demons:

They went to Capernaum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach. The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law. Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an evil spirit cried out, "What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!"

"Be quiet!" said Jesus sternly. "Come out of him!" The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of the man with a shriek.

The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, "What is this? A new teaching—and with authority! He even gives orders to evil spirits and they obey him."[17]

Contrary to what the Qur’an suggests, not all of God’s messengers were the occasional puppets of Satan. We know of at least one who had complete authority over demons. If we have to choose which messenger to listen to (and this is a decision that Christians and Muslims must make), is it not reasonable to trust the one who terrified demons with his presence? Furthermore, Jesus warned his followers that "many false prophets will appear and deceive many people."[18] Not all false prophets deliberately deceived their disciples, however. Some were led by Satan to do so, and the evidence strongly suggests that Muhammad falls into this category. Even his own followers said that he was bewitched.

Matthew 7:15-20English Standard Version (ESV)
A Tree and Its Fruit

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

The fruits of Mohammed, his early followers, were bloodthirsty raiders.
The fruits of Christ were self sacrificing servants of God and lovers of all mankind.

Pray to Jesus that he might guide you towards salvation.

That's Catholicism, Christians have pastors, not priests

is correct, that's a heresy practiced by Catholics. You'll find no record of such practices in the Bible, either as commanded by Jesus or in the acts of the early church.

first of all, i want to answer by parts

>Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah, the Sahih Al-Bukhari, and the Sahih Muslim,

I know these people.In muslim world there are big speculations about their books the Hadiths.Because they are created after mohammed died (about after 200 years).So you can not trust them.Also some muslims accepts hadiths like Quran.This is another subject.But in my belief i accept only Quran.Because hadiths are not safe sources to learn or investigate something.

BAN JUDAISM BAN ISLAM BAN CHRISTIANITY

can you give me e mail? right now it is impossible for me to read everythinf you wrote, because i have to answer them too. it is 4 a.m. for me now, but i copied everything you wrote, so i will explain you

The same reason christians call themselves catholics or protestants they don't like each others.

I will pray for you and ask you to watch this video youtube.com/watch?v=O9rcFduex1Q
God bless

Ok, I will try to at some point.