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If Net Neutrality is all about keeping the greedy ISPs from gouging customers... why are they all in favor of it?

Use your heads, you retarded communist faggots.

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I was just about to make this thread. Thanks for saving me the effort.

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Bringo

They were against it the last time it was proposed. They're saying they are now for pr purposes but would damn well take advantage of the situation if it was abolished

Net neutrality is retarded once you actually think about it. Just one step closer to giving the internet to the government.

Really makes you think

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user SOS I'm literally retarded and don't know much about this net neutrality stuff. I'm hearing stuff for and against but I have no idea who to trust, so of course I have to turn to Sup Forums, like always, for useful information. Can someone fill me in or tell me where to research this without having to sift through a lot of bullshit?

Here, I'll post a bunch of images, read through them to get a better understanding of the situation.

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truth digits

And please be aware, Sup Forums is under a massive consensus cracking shill attack right now to try and turn as many people against net neutrality as possible.

There's basically a thread being created every couple minutes about it, always trying to tell you that net neutrality is bad.

That ALONE should be enough information to tell you what you need to know.

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PR

Regardless of your position on this issue, you have no excuse being this fucking stupid.

Thank you

god you're a fucking moron
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They're actually trying to put together "Net Neutrality" legislation that is actually anti-net neutrality legislation under the net neutrality name.

That's also part of the reason people are getting confused about the issue. There is a concerted effort to keep everyone in the dark about what is actually going on, and they are trying to push shit through using fraudnews and fake labels.

Does anyone here really fucking want CNN/Timewarner and Comcast/MSNBC to be deciding what websites people get to visit and how much you have to pay for individual websites?

Fuck no. And even if you think the market monopolies are an issue (and they are); repealing net neutrality legislation won't do anything to solve that. The ISP's themselves are creating these monopolies, not net neutrality. Even if you're in favor of scrapping net neutrality, you should be able to recognize that it won't actually help anyone, anywhere, unless we completely destroy the monopolies first.

The state caused the duoplolies. You know want to give them even more power. You statists would try to cure cancer with more cancer.

Truth hurts the liars.

Feel free to off yourself at anytime, scumbag. Anyone selling themselves like a whore to destroy the internet doesn't even deserve to be called a human being.

>The state caused the duoplolies. You know want to give them even more power. You statists would try to cure cancer with more cancer.


No shill, the state doesn't.
Comcast/whoever comes to a town, builds the fiber with an agreement with the state, and then includes in that agreement anti-competition clauses that prevents the state from getting service from alternatives and startups

The ISP's are CREATING the anti-competitive, free-market laws. They are not victims of it.

Begone with your fucked up lies and untruths.

Yeah, ok, faggot. Enjoy your govt boot. Just remember that you asked for it.
Believe it or not, your self righteous bullshit isn't right this time.

Ebil Corporation bogeymen.
Fake crisis.
Speculative fiction.
More government.
Every time.

>Siding with ISPs
You people fucking disgust me

You ever think ISPs realize they're one of the most reviled industries?

> with an agreement with the state, and then includes in that agreement anti-competition clauses
> the state doesn't cause monopolies
are you this fucking retar--- of course you are.

you're the one siding with them if you support NN, moron

see

>A twitter post
I sure am convinced user

Again, you don't think they realize whatever side they "take" won't be popular? You're getting played like a damn fiddle.

at this point i'm almost resigned
people are so fucking retarded
we can't handle liberty
I think it's meant for a higher IQ species

They're shills bud.

More information on how net neutrality ACTUALLY works:
and pass the info along to other anons if you can when you see more of these threads popping up. The shills are spamming the board right now, so it shouldn't be hard to find more.

>really makes you think.

Daily reminder that the FTC has BTFO of every company in favor of NN

not everyone who disagrees with you is a shill. I know it makes your mundane life feel significant to think you're waging meme war with corporate stooges, but some of us actually understand what govt control over the market entails and oppose it on principled grounds.

stupid picture, OP.

>giving the internet to the government

The government created the internet, retard. Also, Obama gave control over the internet to foreigners. Isn’t that nice of him? We create the internet and we give the keys to someone else.

fuck off it's all i had on this PHONE!!!!! >:O

SPBP

You can't be serious right? A fucking twitter post?

Its called PR, nobody will come out and publicly state that they want to facefuck you, they make you lower your guard first.

Fuck off shill.

>me when hilldog stuffed bernie
ofc then he immediately dropped to his knees for DNC bukkake which just amplified my resignation

Now I Sup Forums full-tilt for acceleration and a few lulz.

Can't speak for other anons, but I'm not a shill, I just believe in the free market and don't cherry pick my beliefs because it suits me.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1IzN9tst28&feature=youtu.be

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>he immediately dropped to his knees
Not this meme again. He agreed with Hillary more than he agreed with Trump. Of course he didn't want to do something that would jeopardize her chances too much, like continuing to oppose her would have.

Net neutrality is just another attack on private property. A really well dressed up and disguised one but just more of the same. I thought this board would be the one place where people would understand it.

As it stands, net neutrality protects your identity at the cost of being competitively neutralized.

You build an epic private service with chump change and you can expect to be cannibalized.

It's cool seeing it come to life, unfortunately at the cost of remaining anonymous.

Really makes me hate people though.

I can sense their entitlement to my anonymity as if I'd be punished for being the dude who refused to eat shit.

wait, are you seriously equating Bernie with liberty? You're not equating a socialist with liberty... you can't possibly be doing that.

>MUH SHILL
you're as bad as the faggots who cry racist when they can't comprehend someone disagreeing with them

Does this Pajeet even know how badly he's fucking up right now?
This dumbass is sitting there with his shit eating grin trying to pass this shit, but I don't think he understands just how many unhinged NEETs, degenerates, no-life gamers, and complete loners out there spend most of their time on the internet.

There are bound to be at least a few dozen of them insane enough to gun for the man that ruined their last and only escape from an otherwise meaningless existence.

>why are they all in favor of it?
They aren't. The biggest ISPs are against it.

The best thing you can do is not go to pol about it. Everyone here is clearly ass backwards.

>i've figured out the best form of govt because 20 gorillion adidasfags starved or some shit
bernie was legit.

you trump shills are either accelerating with me, or you were stupid enough to fall for a corrupt sleazy businessman's astroturfers.

HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU

At least he isn't citing twitter posts as evidence.
You didn't even mention the core of his argument btw, so ya, you're either a shill or just mentally retarded.

*Opposition of net neutrality is just another

fixed that

They're not you retarded burger. Verizon, AT&T and others all want to change the current net neutrality rules. The reason Google is in favor of it is because search engines would be useless on a censored internet. All of these companies care about profits over regular people, however, Google happens to be on the right side on this issue mainly because the populist position would hurt their bank account the least. Whereas the ISP's are against NN because the populist position could potentially impede their ability to screw over consumers.

I just can't wait for the day I see a campaign where some corporation going on the record to say it is assimilating efforts to make the internet....

... and I'll stop right there because they're already thinking about it.

I guess the question is:
> Do you feel lucky? Well... Do ya? Punk?

Try me.

They're not. Look at who's against it. Comcast, Time-Warner, MSNBC, CNN, etc.

this is setup and alley oop is so fucking transparent i cant believe summer fags are falling for it

except they aren't in favor of it

>net neutrality ACTUALLY works:

There's more to Title II than just this. It's not neutrality, it's literally a huge government takeover.

It's just going back to the rules that were set up under the Clinton Administration.

Anyone who thinks net neutrality helps can look at T-Mobile. They have been taking out the big dogs of AT&T and Verizon by flaunting net neutrality "ideals".

I don't care about the opinion of a Canadian anyways, I'm just posting this to hope that anyone who would be the type to believe screenshots of random posts to instead research on the subject themselves.

>muh free market

ISPs aren't a free market, retard. And holding autstically to an arbitrary axiom like "must always side with free markets and less government no matter what" is just fucking dumb. Getting rid of border enforcement and ICE would also be "deregulation". I guess that's a good thing too, right faggot?

yes he is retarded. Most of these people have never heard of net neutrality, and seem to believe the bill being proposed *is* net neutrality and as such we must oppose net neutrality.

They literally have it backwards and can't see it. Either that or they're really effective trolls.

>we create the internet
>we
>thinking the government gives a shit about its people

It's a mix of shills, trolls and retards famalam. Mostly retards with some legitimately paid shills and a few trolls.

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newsroom.cox.com/news-releases?item=122500

news.centurylink.com/blogs/policy/keep-the-internet-open-and-freewithout-regulation

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It's like they don't remember the first this shit popped up. Probably because they were literal children then.

why should govt. have any control over the internet in the first place?

don't bother
they'll just handwave it by calling it PR

Because the invented it and registered it as a public service.

Net neutrality is Big Government and (((Big Business))) getting together to pass laws for "your own good".

I know this is a stretch but can you remember back two whole years to mid 2015 when there was no net neutrality? Can you recall the massive problems you had using the internet or getting on Sup Forums back then? Me neither.

THE GOVERNMENT IS REGULATING THE INTERNET TOO MUCH...
...by having laws that prevent internet providers from selectively picking/choosing what sites/traffic its users are allowed to go to.

bernie was a faggot jew

Quite frankly, net neutrality and the internet in general has been the best thing for the arts and sciences since the printing press.

This is a fucking fallacy. That's not how laws work. There were no NN laws before 2015 because it was only in 2015 that ISPs started realizing they could limit certain traffic to their benefit. That's how laws work. They're typically reactive to when someone does something that's technically legal but wasn't accounted for until that point.

1. This is not a law. This never went through Congress.
2. This was way more than doing "prevent internet providers from selectively picking/choosing what sites/traffic its users are allowed to go to".

In the fight against companies that bundle services, the FCC bundled a shit load of rules under this umbrella called "net neutrality". Is that called irony or something else?

isp's are all against it. but thanks for the bizzaro bullshit shill thread. theres 5 more on the catalog. Gookmoots takin those bribes.

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No. Opposition to net neutrality reduces the government's size. Reducing the government increases private property. The half-assertion you sort of tried to make here is provably false.

It's called "Advertising." Do you really think they're going to say "We're going to screw you?"

Actually the internet in the USA has been a screw up since AOL merged with time Warner as the FCC set the groundwork for that in 96 and then further took out competition in 2010 and then in 2015 and now in 2017 they are trying to do it again. NN is bad but monopolies are worse. I kinda want NN to fail though so we can crash these corporations and build a anew, like really.

ISPs have been limiting P2P traffic for well over 10 years. This is not something that just cropped up around 2015.

Also there are many countries (including NZ) where there are no net neutrality laws. Amazingly none of the nightmare scenarios dreamed up by the net neutrality crowd occur here. Just like they didn't occur pre-2015 in the USA.

Could it be that consumers won't purchase a defective product? That's how markets work...

But hey Obama, (((Jewgle))), and Micro$oft are all for net neutrality so it must be good. Right goy?

All the shit deals like data caps and slow speeds ISPs are offering are due to NN.

>Could it be that consumers won't purchase a defective product? That's how markets work...
Good luck with that when there's only one product in the whole town to buy.

ISPs provide me my internet. I love them :3

Big corps love regulation like this precisely because it is harder for small / new entities to comply with the rules they helped to write.
One of the reasons there are tons of ISPs is because of the lack of regulation.

loololw how does this affects us, the european masterrace?

Irrelevant. Sad!

No its due to their monopoly. NN is just a bandaid to a bigger problem. Thats all Obama ever did was offer bandaid solutions and play golf dont you get it yet?

PR.

Please explain to me how laws designed to help protect the consumer are going to make it worse for the consumer.

>One of the reasons there are tons of ISPs is because of the lack of regulation.

Yes, but the infrastructure regulations have absolutely nothing to do with NN.

Because intentions does not equate to outcome when it comes to government.
See: welfare, pensions, the DMV...
When the average age of a US Senator is 63 years do you trust them to accurately predict what is "best" in a quickly evolving and highly competitive market?

Thanks for avoiding the question, I guess. Now at least I can leave the thread knowing that you're retarded.

>Net Neutrality didn't exist before 2015
>It didn't exist because it didn't need to exist
Is this what the Web 2.0 generation actually believes?
Have we really done so poorly in teaching the history of the internet?

You asked a shit question that doesn't deserve respect. (((Net neutrality))) is not meant to protect consumers. It's meant to assure that consumers pay the price for banwidth and infrastructure upgrades instead of companies uploading content that hogs space.

>What is PR; the post

false butt pirate.

Don't let the door hit your burger ass on the way out faggot :)

Or *hardmode* you could explain how "laws designed to help protect the consumer" (debatable) actually help the consumer (the real point) with something other than a tautology.

It's meant to protect both the consumer and the content producers. You may not like Youtube because it is part of a big evil corporation, but unless we protect their rights we can't protect our own. You cant just write in a "well I don't like Youtube so fuck them" exception to your rights, it doesn't work like that.

Nigger, you're the one who made the original claim, I was just responding to you. Explain how this will in any way negatively impact the consumer.

I hate NZ Internet laws
You can legally request the internet history of other people using your Internet from your isp, which means in NZ partners check up on each others Internet
This is illegal in USA

nice collection

>Be 100 billion dollar ISP
>Laugh at economic regulation
>Making money anyway but want more for shareholders
>Co-opt few ISPs who cant handle said regulation
>Not enough!
>Trump elected
>Time to consolidate this bitch
>Turn off regulation
>Expand
>Reaganomics$$$$$ AYYYYYYY LMAOOOOOOOO
>Screw your customers
>New (((President))) is elected
>We need net neutrality!
>Small ISPs who latched onto the boom are now co-opted

We need to break up monopolies. Fuck Net neutrality, fuck trumps Reaganomics.