What happened to the left?

A few years ago, they weren't this crazy.

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They were always crazy. They are just like muslims. When they are a tiny minority they behave. But as soon as they start becoming a significant % and start gaining some real power they will do their best to subvert the culture in order to replace it with their own.

Marxism has been a disease that keeps resurfacing in various forms for a long time. This is just the latest form.

Watch an soviet defect ex-KGB Yuri Besminov's interview on how Marxists infiltrate a society and cripple it ideologically.

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They were sabotaged by the capitalist elite who wanted globalization. They promoted identity politics and cultural self-hatred. They propped up the most retarded postmodernists among their rank.
The elite might be ready to give them some sort of simulacrum of socialism as long as the economic sovereignty is removed at the nation level so that they (and everyone else) would become forever harmless to them. And generally unable to alter their circumstances significantly no matter what they manage to accomplish politically within their own nation.

>the capitalist elite
You mean the commie elite, bud.

Islam predates Marxism and both ideologies are ultimately from the jews.

this is already true in europe where euro reps aren't directly elected and the bureaucrats have more power than them anyway

bingo

They got a taste of power.

So like every group.

After Obama won his second term they thought they had a permanent majority locked up due to demographic changes. They shifted to their final stage strategy and tactics prematurely and are starting to scare away moderates that now see their true colors.

Commie elite who dont believe in the labor theory of value and want a market economy?

Hubris before the fall. I think some of them are catching on though, they can see the way the wind's turning and it infuriates them.

ok op im going to explain something 99% of this board wont believe . a while back some one (rich guy) made a bet with a shadowy figure (nobody can remember his face or name) at a very nice country club.

the rich man boasted about controlling the masses. "we tell them what to think" he proclaimed . then the shadowy figure suggested a gentlemans wager but the rich man wanted it to be interesting before even knowing what the shadowy figure would suggest

the uknown man said fine and insisted on being able to finish his sentence. basically long story short some niggers in the media made a deal with the devil and if they failed to be able to control the masses they will never rule the world.

this causes some stress. you see if they cant manipulate the masses then people wont pay them shit loads of money under the table and some of them have expensive habits. all that changed was a condition . they had to prove they were the ones calling the shots not the masses. so they had to babe ruth that shit and failed

They tend to pull early in the U.S. pretty consistently. Case in point, gun control. The left spent the 1970's and 1980's demonizing firearms and the gun culture. By the 1980's school based firearms education had been removed from public schools. When they thought they had it locked down, the began introducing extensive gun control legislation at the federal level, such as the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. The U.S. wasn't quite ready for it and in the long term it had the opposite effect. Gun culture exploded and more people in the U.S. own and carry guns now than they did forty years ago. Everything seems to point to them pulling the same premature bullshit with transgenderism and all the other crap they're trying to force down everyone's throats.

Elite communist Jews who want to take money from middle class whites and give it to third worlders. Don't give me that economic theory bullshit, communist.

Neoliberals quietly took control of the party. It all started when Obama gave Clinton control of his foreign policy and Howard Dean stepped down as the head of the DNC.

Sources of funding are all that hold the Democratic Party together now and the average lay member does not realize it at all. Ask a Boomer Dem and they'll tell you it's the party of labor. Ask a Gen Xer Dem and they'll tell you it's the party of globalization. Ask a Millennial Dem and they'll tell you it's the party of social justice.

The Boomers have forgotten who took err jobs. The Gen Xers have forgotten that tariffs still exist. The Millennials have forgotten that the Democrats allied with the Republicans to ban gay marriage in all those referendums during hte Bush years.

And the people running the party keep cashing the checks because #RESIST #NOTMYPRESIDENT and #FUCKDRUMPF.

anti-Trump hysteria has made them MUCH worse

Not sure

>hurrrrr ur a commie
Stalin would have sent SJW's to freeze to death in the gulags. The current situation isn't related to economics in the slightest. It's a cultural problem.

This, they tripped at the finish line becauyse they weren't prepared for Trump. In a panic, they turned the identity politics up to 11.

It's still called communism. It's just different communists using different methods.

No shit, after Bush the left were Anti-war and anti-wallstreet with the whole occupy shit. Now they want fucking WW3 with Russia and nominated the biggest corporate, warmongering, wallstreet whore imaginable.

Blind partisan rage

Eh, I don't think they are that crazy desu. There is a lot of "bad apple-ing" in conservative media where conservatives find dumb liberals saying dumb things most liberals wouldn't stand behind and then bandy it about as if it what all liberals think. Conservatives can't help it because liberals act like they are smarter than conservatives so when a conservative sees a dumb liberal they immediately jump all over them out of resentment. Most liberals want less wealth to be in the hands of corporations and more to be spent on the public. The problem was, to appeal more to republicans and chase money to get in power, their representatives became more corporate friendly. Then when businesses started going along with social movements, notably gay marriage, they got intwined with them even further. But end of the day they are still on the whole better on policy than conservatives because they are still mostly smarter and want things that are better for more people.

Neoliberals took over the Center-Left and Center-Right, when comes someone who isn't a Neoliberal like Corbyn or Trump the media goes crazy in their smear campaign.

They became hyperrational and were blinded by their own abstractions.

>But end of the day they are still on the whole better on policy than conservatives because they are still mostly smarter and want things that are better for more people.
lmfao. Yeah m8 cultmarx really is something.

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can someone explain to me what exactly you think cultural marxism is? because I thought the roots of the frankfurt school was figuring out how to stop workers from being exploited by the ruling class. But now many of you basically say that's what cultmarx is. seems like it doesn't mean what it actually means.

Nigger you walk into any room filled with politically involved liberals and mention that whites will become a minority in the US. They'll cheer like you announced world hunger is coming to an end. There is no "bad appling." That's what they are. They're trash. They have zero understanding of the practical impact their policies are having on citizens and on the world, and neither do you apparently.

not like every other group, if one compares how easy it is to become a mudslim, to other religions you can see the evidence on why it grows like fungus, or disease, or virus

You haven't been listening to NPR in the last two hears, huh?

You haven't been watching MSNBC, CNN, CBS either?

I know you aren't reading WaPo, USA Today, TIME, or the New York Times.

Faggot, I think you say that and most liberals would be like "ok, whatever. if we want a homogenous society then the easiest path is to fuck each other." Have you ever met a 2nd gen American of any race that wasn't basically just a normal American? It's interesting you all hate the jews but this holding of this arbitrary "white race" as sacred is essentially what orthodox jews do. You guys need to think your shit through better.

Whachu mean by this?

But you cunts are all smart n sheit so you should know ahy?
Briefly: when the left abandoned class for idpol.

Now fuck off back to your cuck shed to be all smart n sheit, the magic negro needs time to be prepped for your sister.

>A few years ago, they weren't this crazy

Yes they were. How old are you, 18 like the average age of Sup Forums?

They saw that identity politics got Obongo elected twice saw they ran on the same bullshit with Hilldawg and got shoa'd in the election. When the loony left lost they figured that it was because they weren't progressive enough and went full retard. It doesn't help that many dems are racalized to ISIS levels of insane. They can't grasp that identity politics is losing favor everywhere.

> some liberals got obsessed with IDpol therefore I will join the side of greedy corporate narcs stealing money from the populace
what is the point of your ideology? To become wage slaves and die depressed?

The left used to care about economics: improving wages and conditions for workers.

Now ALL they seem to care about are identity politics and defending minorities, totally without regard to whether those minorities are worth supporting (see rabid left wingers defending Islam: that level of cognitive dissonance I can't wrap my head around).

In many ways the 'alt right' is just the new incarnation of the old left: anti-trade, pro-worker, communitarian.

>After obongo managed to get through 8 years with full media cooperation to prop the left up to look good they thought they had a permanent majority locked up due to not encountering contrary opinions. They shifted to their final brownshirt approach early and are starting to become yet another forgotten movement

> In many ways the 'alt right' is just the new incarnation of the old left: anti-trade, pro-worker, communitarian.
if you guys just drop the pointless racism it seems like we could get along. Why do you care that MAYBE some races are slightly dumber than others when, in aggregate, there are far more dumb white people than there are dumb black people? Or, if you are referring to muslims, why do you rail against the progressive culture that will be what makes their kids turn on the repressive beliefs of their parents?

>Faggot, I think you say that and most liberals would be like "ok, whatever. if we want a homogenous society then the easiest path is to fuck each other."
Yes they say something along the lines of white people should have more kids, while ignoring all the systemic problems they themselves set up to discourage whites from having kids. But when niggers commit murder, that's the fault of whites and right-wing policies. They use arguments involving agency only when it's convenient.

>Have you ever met a 2nd gen American of any race that wasn't basically just a normal American?
If the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that we all hate each other and it's because of race. I live in California. There is zero benefit to diversity.

And since when do they have to become a normal American? Libs fully support their right to live an ethnic enclaves and retain their racial identity.

Sometimes I think that because we haven't had a major war in so long, the only people who got to procreate were total fag wienies at Harvard and shit. Give it another couple generations and you have medium iq beta fag descendants. They think that all people ride around on yachts unless they're a different color and are smart enough to make a mess of things, but not to properly run things.

they were put into an information bubble and brainwashed. this was done with conscious intent by the cabal--Bushes, Obama, Clintons, et. al. They need to be held to account for this, also. The caused untold suffering, and many suicides are the direct result of their brainwashing efforts. It's all part of the same plan, and these psychopaths need to face the music.

>MAYBE some races are dumber than others

You do realize that it's common knowledge that blacks on average are one standard deviation lower on the IQ scale than whites? That's why you see increased criminality, single parenthood, etc. rampant in the black community.

This pretty much explains it.
altright.com/2017/07/10/the-right-should-support-its-extremist-element/

>believing in utopia
m8 I am still left wing in some social and economic policies but I would rather die than vote left ever again. To vote left and be a white male is the equivalent of a Jew supporting hitler. The whole ideology has made it very clear that they want whites, white culture, white genetics, white lands, everything white to be wiped out. Dont believe me? Look to the end consequence of any precious policy.

>greedy corporate narcs stealing money from the populace
All this 1% thingy is crap too. Inequality is growing at a massive rate due to the return form capital vs labor but the left are actively dismantling the very institutions that can keep a check on the global oligarchy - i.e. the nation state. Take a look at the 1% you dumb faggot. Here lets think.... Bezos, Slim, Zuckerbrug, Soros etc ..... check out the donations to the dems - the elite are with the left because want fucking globalization as it entails the free movement of people and capital. Do you think they are pushing that through for our benefit?

Fucking wake up you dumb fuck.

It was a rift in the continuum. Look up David Icke

>Yes they say something along the lines of white people should have more kids, while ignoring all the systemic problems they themselves set up to discourage whites from having kids. But when niggers commit murder, that's the fault of whites and right-wing policies. They use arguments involving agency only when it's convenient.
Oh I meant they would say people of different races should fuck if they want because who cares "western culture" doesn't really need to be attached to race. Unless you want it to. But that always feels lame to me.

>If the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that we all hate each other and it's because of race. I live in California. There is zero benefit to diversity.
Aww man, I love you. Race isn't that big of a deal unless you make it a big deal, I think that's the problem.
>I live in California. There is zero benefit to diversity.
You ain't eat mexican food?

Islam predates Marxism and both ideologies are ultimately from the jews.

Not sure about Marxism but Islam is from the Jews?!?!?!

What are you smoking bud?

The Jews forced god's hand with the Assyrians.

Long story short: Frontal lobe brain damage caused by EMF

You do realize there are far more dumb white people in the U.S. than dumb black people right? 77% white nation, 13% black? Therefore IQ can't be the main factor?

Yeah it is still because of the high concentration of their stupidity combined with other genetic factors for temperament and success.

>we have to nip this christianity thing in the bud, shlomo, wat do?
the control of people as cattle has been around for a long, long time.
i have heard people--i don't know who, i was too young--in certain circles refer directly to herding people.
>you herd cattle and horses.
>*laughter*, *knowing glances exchanged* that's right, user.

You want to know what it boils down to?

We care that you deny truth because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

It doesn't matter what the subject is.

"pointless racism"
>our entire society is built on white, western values.
>millions of violent, radical military aged arabs flooding into Europe
>millions of Africans with no education that provide almost nothing to society also flooding europe and popping out even more children than the fucking arabs
>decades after the civil rights act blacks still hold deep bitterness towards whites, white values, and can't wait for us to become a minority
>same with spics
yeah, pointless.

>if you guys just drop the pointless racism it seems like we could get along.
YOU drop the racism. YOU'RE the ones saying we need to reduce the white population and take steps to ensure niggers have higher average incomes than whites when that's never going to happen peacefully.

If you really hate "racist" ethnonationalists so much, get rid of the migrants. The people coming in are measurably more racist than the native population.

>Why do you care that MAYBE some races are slightly dumber than others
Because whatever problems lesser races have, whites get blamed for it. So at some point you HAVE to say, their failure is because they're not as smart, and it's not our problem.

Oh good, I'm glad words have no meaning and we can just call people whatever we want, you commie

>what is an average
The IQ test doesn't count the number of stupid people, but the likeliness a person will be stupid.

i remember when isis happened and the western left (and some of the right) sided with them.
calling them freedom fighters, rebels, etc
demoralizing our nation by a global media assault about how evil the iraqi government is and how isis is a reaction

> Look to the end consequence of any precious policy.
I think you gotta think this shit through man. Policies that support ending racism don't mean they also want to wipe out whites. They want equality with whites. That seems like it should be obvious.
>Bezos, Slim, Zuckerbrug, Soros etc .....
Eh I could also list a bunch of rich conservatives fucking shit up. But also libs are the ones that want regulations and higher taxes on these people because, as you point out, capital should earn more than labor.

I donno, seems like you wanna be a lib your just annoyed by libs. but I am too. It's ok.

>burger education

>be black
>be 13% of US population
>account for over 50% of the crime in said nation

Ok shlomo whatever you say

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Eh, seems like oppressing them for hundreds of years, fucking up their education system, forcing them to live in shitty neighborhoods and throwing all their dads in prison is a more likely cause

He means they are that crazy.

commie

I like the part where you ignored his point about cultural enclaves.

Hispanics don't know English not because it's hard, but they do not care what anyone has to say in English. If they ain't part of LA RAZA then they might as well not exist.

If it wasn't for dems bending over backwards for the average savage, they would have to learn the language, integrate a bit, and holy shit, be exposed to ideas that don't come from their own imediate community.

It's time to charge the DNC with TREASON

Democrats refuse to accept the results of the election.
Democrats declare anyone who does not support their party a "nazi"
Democrats start looting and rioting.
Democrats start calling for violence against Trump supporters.
Democrats start randomly assaulting people.
Democrats openly call for the assasination of our president.
Democrats start killing policemen.
Democrats start shooting elected officials.

Democrats claim the Presidential Election cannot be rigged.
Democrats create an obstructionist campaign claiming the election was rigged.

The DNC is committing acts of treason in an attempt to overthrow our government because they lost the election.

Only gonna comment on this to point out you are too dumb to understand my point which is that if slightly lower IQ people in a society fuck up a society than it's a pretty worthless society

It's more the horrible culture that glorifies ignorance, tears anyone down who does better than they do, etc.

A lot of that wasn't self-created, though it was quickly adopted (and spread to nearly all primarily black communities)

Neurotic Exacerbation.

Dont forget mass democrat voter fraud by citizens, illegals, and felons

>You ain't eat mexican food?
Tell me some reasons why you think replacing the white population is a good thing. Because that's what happened in California. Whites are leaving in droves. It's replacement. You can use food as an example if that's the only benefit you can think of.

>A few years ago, they weren't this crazy.
Yes they were. You just grew up.

>Yes they were. You just grew up.

No, they were capable of actually creating an argument.

Now, if it isn't given to them by a media source, they literally can't do it.

The democratic party has literally gone insane. Virtue signalling is out of control. The focus on minorities (africans and hispanics) as well as protecting illegals is alienating a large part of the population. Additionally, if anyone in the DNC bothered to pay attention, is CLEARLY NOT WORKING. We still get swarms of illegals. Racial tensions were worse than ever under Obama even as America bent over backwards for the african american community.

The Democratic party used to stand for things that were laudable, like assistance programs for everyone, regulating various industries so they don't fuck the Earth up forever, undoing some of GOPs constant Christian obstructionism to science, protecting workers and consumers from overly powerful employers and marketers, and other important goals.

Now the party is about handouts or protections for obnoxious groups, politically correct posturing, forcing identity politics, and lately, opposing everything the current president does, no matter what that happens to be. I literally haven't heard them declare a goal that wasn't one of those things in quite some time now that I think about it.

Being a smug liberal piece of shit is the main reason your loseing.

So please continue with the upturned nose and the holier-than-thou attitude, . Please keep demonizing your opposition and learn nothing so you can continue to circle the drain.

Man you are all over the place here.
>YOU'RE the ones saying we need to reduce the white population and take steps to ensure niggers have higher average incomes than whites
I don't think ANYONE is saying that, this is either a straw man or you are talking to libs who are trolling you. Libs want all people to have equal opportunity.

>If you really hate "racist" ethnonationalists so much, get rid of the migrants.
The only thing proven to end racism is exposure to tolerant western culture. I don't care if they are racist, I care that their kids go to a good school where they learn shit and make friends and then they are not racist. That is the story of America.

>Why do you care that MAYBE some races are slightly dumber than others
Yall are very defensive. Whites are to blame for a lot. Because of racism. But also chill out, black people are friendly too.

Kill yourself idiot. By opressed, you mean we weeded out their feral nigger gorilla genes for a good 200 years, taught them how to put in a good days work, and then learned the lessons of jesus through the wonders of our written words and technology. If you ever sat in class with a nigger you'd understand they make their own neighborhoods shitty for themselves and they throw themselves in prison because we didn't have enough time to tame their nigger genes before the liberals took over.

It was always that way.

>Western Europe
>Worthless society
If you truly believe this then please kill yourself immediately. And to state that it's really a matter of iq is inaccurate ( don't get me wrong, that is a part of it ), but moreso its that the newcomers don't give a single shit about western culture and hate the native whites even after several generations ( see: Turkish Germans ). It's both cultural and demographic suicide. Like it or not race is real, as somebody who grew up in a 65% black city let me tell you this: they do not consider you one of them, ever. You will always be a white boy, and valued less because of it. The only appropriate response is kinship with your own race.

>I think you gotta think this shit through man
nah you do. I not only thought it through more than you I modeled it as my profession you dumb faggot.

>Eh I could also list a bunch of rich conservatives fucking shit up

Go on then. I know math is not your forte so make sure you take your time - go find the 1% that are nationalists and then what % they are of the 1%.

>But also libs are the ones that want regulations and higher taxes on these people

Breaking down and subverting all the institutions that keep the elite to account shows otherwise. The middle class is being destroyed, they all know it and they are encouraging it by pushing idpol and immigration at a time of great technological disruption. They hate us whites and and they want us gone. If you cant see that then you are a literal retard. Do some more reading, - start by learning math and stats so you can see trends in data and avoid commissars at all costs.

so you admit IQ has nothing to do with crime rates? Seems much more likely it's poverty... which is something we can help eliminate if we just work together to stop rich neoloberals from taking all our wealth.

>forcing them to live in shitty neighborhoods
stop ignoring the crime statistics, nigger. no fucking duh you don't want murderers living next door. who the fuck wants that?!? white society is the ones without blacks, where murder rates are much lower.

retaining control was the plan. and this election was for complete, perpetual control. everyone, the media included, is fighting it because they were the primary means of establishing the brainwashing information bubble around the American left. Bernie was their sheepdog for the Progressive Left, which reigned in monstrous numbers of Millennials. That fell apart, then the whole chain of dominoes started to tumble.
I believe they are all responsible for every single suicide that occurred due to the propaganda they've been peddling. I want it tried in Federal Court; we have the death penalty on the table at that point. We're not talking a few suicides here and there, but what is likely to amount to thousands of people dead due to their conscious, malicious, intentional actions.

The curtain is being pulled back. Read up on Tea Leaves General -- the naming of the anonymous source responsible for the falsified DNS logs initially linking Trump & Russia.

>intention
since when have communists ever been competent and actually done what they inteded
>hurr durr marriage is a tool of the white capitalism patriarchy to keep the proletariat down

Yeah I think you need to think about this some more. It's ok, man, it's ok to sometimes wonder if there are differences in the races. The problem is not questioning the world around you and realizing that we need to take down the dominant power structure so all of us can thrive. You are being fooled by the corporate elites to want to segregate.

Was it?

That's what happens when you combine high trait agreeableness with political power. People who have lost the ability to think.

Oh, it was a dumb point. All kids in the U.S. learn english. It's great if the learn another language too. Most migrants come to cities like NYC where I live and they mix and become American. I think you have a racist-fantasy land idea about this country.

Pretty much. The left has always held on to the "easy argument." It's easy to argue for the left when all your friends are nice and your interests are comic books and vidya. It requires living much of a full life and a desire to have a family to appreciate what conservatism has to offer.

Segregation is inevitable as shitskins absorb the recessive race traits and repel the sane non racemixers.

>It's more the horrible culture that glorifies ignorance, tears anyone down who does better than they do, etc.
sounds like your are talking about trump conservatives lol

black people friendly
13% of the population commit 50% of murres
>70% of black children born to single mother
>trashy subculture that glorifies degeneracy
> lazy with shitty work ethics

Everyone should check out Mouse Utopia. What happened in that experiment is what we're experiencing right now
youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

IQ has everything to do with crime rates you dolt. That's why you don't see Takashi robbing a bank because he has an IQ of 105, while Daquan has an IQ of 80 and he's a gangbanger.

The issue with people my age was that we became liberals when the religious right formed our political opinions by being creationists and attacking video games for promoting violence, then gamergate happened and the roles reversed in our heads