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The ultimate redpill is when you realize that Putin is the good guy

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wrong. Christ is.

I swallowed that pill a long time ago

Based Covenant Theology
Dispensationalism BTFO

That's been known for some time

He is at least not a bad guy, Russia probably hasn't been since after the cold war ended (give a couple years for hurt fee fees).

Russia is the only post industrialized country to have a decreasing life expectancy. More people die from alcoholism than heart disease.

It's a fucking shithole and he is their king.

just because libshits hate him doesnt mean hes good

Anyone who's been paying attention since he took over from Yeltsin knows that.

that's a very early step and not ultimate at all. pretty much common sense, depending on your level of blue pill going into thinking about it

>kgb agent
>dictator
>embezzles billions
>kills thousands of people to maintain his position
>props up billionaires who steal from his own people
>uses alcohol to keep his population down
>uses controlled opposition to keep dissent down
>uses propaganda to keep his people ignorant
"""goood""""

>he steals from his countrymen
>creates fake crimes for his opposition
>invades Ukraine
>runs the country like a mob boss

He's a bad leader, a bad guy, and drags down European potential.

ultimate ? its barely a baby redpill

Doesn't make them evil though. Not as many terrorist attacks as any Germany, or England. Fairly cordial to other countries as well.
You may not like how it's run, but it isn't a inherently evil country.

he's not european.
also clintons and bushes
>muh middle east, thousands of deaths
>trillions to war machine

maybe elements of putin are mob like, but clintons, bushes and deep state us make him and his regime look like a petty theft in comparison to their crime syndicate.

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I think "the ultimate red pill" is laying it on a little thick but you are right about putin being a good guy

please name one bad thing Putin or Russia has done to you. then think about us/canadian governments in your own country and how they act. i'll wait for your response, thx.

>fascist flag
>consider those to be bad thing
Keque
If anything Russia is the closest thing to an actual fascist regime ever.

Not that it was a good thing.

Wrong.
That was the 90s.
Putin turned that around.
Population is growing and the have a much lowere infant mortality than US or EU

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Love Putin!

>>invades Ukraine
I wish every day that he did. Ukraine is the pimple on the ass end of the world.

This is Putin.

In foreign policy, but not domestically.

>European "potential"

Based Vladimir

Oh yeah because wanting sovereignty from the US and the saudis is bad now ?

He's very clearly an obstacle to the new world order seeking cabal, so that makes him a tremendous asset to humanity, regardless of any other factor.

Dear leaf

Weedman openly stole $250M some days ago.

If only he invaded Ukraine and delete this mistaken country from existence.

Talk about facts nigger, not your media narratives.

If you think those things are what fascism entail then you have swallowed the propaganda you scum.

t.CNN.

John Kerry pleading with Putin and Lavrov that jabhat Nusra (al qaida) are "moderate" terrorists.

It's a damn shame you don't appreciate what you have in America. Russia will never be like America unless Putin gets out. The best part about America is that no matter how shitty one Bush can be, the power is divided into 2 other branches of government.

In Russia, you only have one branch: Putin.

My country acts fine thank you very much. It's way better than Russia.

>>kgb agent
Like how George Bush Sr. was a CIA agent, an intelligence job's a job
>dictator
With a 70% approval rating
>embezzles billions
Kinda like Obama?
>kills thousands of people to maintain his position
See Clinton H.
>props up billionaires who steal from his own people
Um, no, actually he imprisoned Khodorkovsky for doing that.
>uses alcohol to keep his population down
He has reduced alcohol consumption dramatically in his country
>uses controlled opposition to keep dissent down
Like Obama uses CNN fake news?
>uses propaganda to keep his people ignorant
Russians get 100s of channels of free Western Satellite, including about 20 US channels, How many foreign channels do you get for free.

You're so full of shit.

Well no shit OP. Globalization is designed to lock out china and India. Because otherwise each individual western nation on its own cant possibly compete.
The western world WANTS to be inclusive of Russia be Russia would never agree to what would be extremely unfair terms.
Putin sees this and will stop at nothing to stop globalization and promote nationalism, because that would be the only way Russia would have a chance to recapture any of its former glory.
The truth is, however, globalization on our terms may be the only hope for the western world to hold off the future "super powers" that may be on the horizon.

source?
t. cuck

You have a silly meme-like understanding of the world. I can almost hear CNN in your room right now.

>Putin or Russia has done to you
Violated my constitution and stole my civil liberties, including constitutional ones.
Also depressed the conomy with crony capitalism, makes it harder for 99% to make the 0.1% more comfy and stable.

I persnally work as an engineer on a military production enterprise, it is mismanagd with malicious intent because the oligarchs want to run in into the ground so that they could close the factory and build a bunch of city black and a shopping mall in its place.

I could rant about it forever.
I have to admit Putin handles international stuff just great, but his internal and social politics are abhorrent.

I like Putin, he seems to tell it how it is and what he's done for Russia is amazing.

Russian population is growing.
Russia pays a "maternity dividend" to all mothers.
There's plenty of info on this
For those interested.
I'm not doing you homework for you.
But Russian population is as high as it's ever been in July 2017.

you're an underage kiddo who fell for cockhole and other such type shilling, if you ever thought putin was a bad guy

a piss-easy comparison of who Russia was in 2000, to what Russia is in 2017, should be enough proofs

> b-but he steals and sells the OIL!

Look into how the West legalized lobbying and who profits from that, then think about what kind of "corruption" the (((media))) talks about when they mention Russia

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>Russians get 100s of channels of free Western Satellite, including about 20 US channels, How many foreign channels do you get for free.
Fucking this.
Every country does state propaganda with their tv channels but in Russia you can at least easily see other state propaganda.

Russia’s economy now the most diversified in the world

This report is based on Awara Accounting’s research on how the Russian economy managed in 2014 – 2016 to cope with the dual shocks of Western sanctions and the accompanying precipitous fall of the oil price.
KEY FINDINGS:

Russia’s economy has successfully adjusted to dual shock of sanctions and oil price plunge
Minor GDP loss of -2.3% for 3 years of sanctions will be completely recovered in 2017 with expected 2-3% growth
Oil & gas share of GDP drops to below 10%
Industrial production stable 2014-2016, soars in May by +5.3%
Russia’s economy now the most diversified in the world. Exports remain relatively undiversified, but domestic production highly diversified and self-sufficient
Debt Crisis predicted by Western pundits failed to materialize
CB reserves intact and sovereign wealth funds solid
Budget deficit never went below -3.9%. Tax collection soars in 2017, budget now balanced
Oil & gas only 17% of budget revenue (2016)
Inflation falls to near 4%
Unemployment remains low at 5% level
Demographic indicators reach all-time best
Population at 146.8 million – all-time high
Only clearly negative data: Salaries, disposable income and consumption. Retail sales down more than 10%

From The Saker website
You're Sup Forums. You can find it.

irrelevant, but SAD!ly best attempt itt

>the power is divided into 2 other branches of government

Which are controlled by the same dynastic families from the shadows. Notice how American foreign policy/agenda never changes, regardless of whether the President has a D or an R next to their name?

>But economy size of ITaLY!

Power projection all over the world.

>watching famous sports movie in bed
>the main team is filled with cry babies and rich kids that struggle to work together
>coach grandstands a lot and makes it all about him too
>these are the good guys in the movie
>these are the ones we're supposed to be rooting for
>they luckily get into one of the big tournaments even though they're the youngest team ever to try
>their connections got them in, but they still need to learn how to get good
>more crying, more joking around, and wow we're having fun now
>coach still making it all about him
>tournament starts and they start to beat the faceless boring teams, that seem nice, but who cares about them
>now it's time to play the strong and polished team who wears all black and doesn't act cocky or loud
>this team has accents from somewhere and they barely talk, but work extremely hard to get where they are, and have dedicated fans
>loud, cry baby, romantic dork team we've been rooting for the whole time has to play them in the finals
>realize i don't even like them
>realize i'm supposed to root against the hard working team in black with accents because that's what i'm supposed to do

>realize the hard working team in black with accents is Putin and the gaggle of retards i've been following all movie are the Bush and Clinton regimes/supporters.

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i'll still wait for that answer to the question i had, asking you to please name what putin or russia has ever done to make your life harder/worse. thx, dear.

dude Russia sucks to live in what are you on
>shitty small apartments
>shitty pay
>shitty kroc drugs
>shitty grey everything
>depressing
>ignorant public
>corruption
>no separation of powers
>no opposition
>oil state with poverty everywhere

Putin and oligarchs are laughing though.

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Russia is not playing "american democracy" and they don't have corps forcing them to intervene "all over the world", so I don't see what that "point" is supposed to prove.
You get away with these trash little "comparisons" about "economy size", but in reality Russians could wipe anyone besides the US, in weeks and your jewish "economy" is not gonna save you then, because the Canadian """Army""" is a complete joke.
You're a cockhole migrant anyways, if Russia ever "did" attack Canada in some dreamworld, clowns like you would be the first to change sides.

Do you remember Russia in the 1990s ?

>Putin is the good guy

nope he's not and neither are you op go find your real daddy faggot

>Anyone who's been paying attention since he took over from Yeltsin knows that.

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not this vatnik fag again

>shitty small condos
>shitty pay
>shitty fentanyl drugs
>shitty grey everything
>depressing
>liberal public
>corruption
>partisan appointments
>controlled opposition
>chinese with property everywhere

Liberalism is next.

The similarity in policy is more about game theory and the first-past-the-post system. But ultimately you're wrong anyway. You need to go back longer than just 10 years to make a judgment like that...

America is a great system. You just need to fix campaign financing. That's it.

why are you trying to shift the topic to things like "living in Russia" and whatnot?
do you know what board this is, you lying faggot?
it's a politics board, and frankly anyone who's not russian has fuck-all business talking about russian DOMESTIC policy, since what MATTERS is their foreign policy, if you're an actual foreigner wondering what effects Russia has onthe world
when you start going off about "living in Russia", you just out yourself as having an agenda, well done cockhole
meanwhile in reality, you wouldn't be able to find another leader (never mind 5 leaders) who led a better foreign policy in the last 50 years

I was supporting your statement retard.

The west criticizes Russia, yet they project all over the world to the point that the west still rivals them.

No, the ultimate red pill is realizing Russia was the actual vanguard in defeating the Nazis. They had the most casualties, the most fighting, the ones who actually defeated Hitler. They are the literal heroes that the world does not recognize, demonized by the cold war antics.

Then the Crimson Pill is realizing Nazi'sm is rising again in the form of leftists, who actually hate Russia. It's history happening again.

I was a kid, we were poor as shit, but we kinda actually had freedom of speech and lack of censorship as we are supposed to because constitution.

Then putin comes, economy goes up, liberty goes dow.
Then putin overstays ecnomy goes down and liberties vanish completely.

fpbp

Accept what you're saying.
Today's Russia is getting up,off the floor having been kicked to shit by the globalists in the 1990s.
Russia was Somalia like in the 1990s....so it's a hard slog back to standards that people expect 2017,

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Lol that's not stealing. That's money well invested. It is both a donation which is quite kind of Canada to do for the people the foundation helps, and it buys Canada political access at a time we need it most.

Trudeau didn't wire it to the Caymans.

I never liked Putin. I still don't. However, I dislike him less now than I did before, not so much because he's changed, but because western leaders have gone absolutely fucking insane.

At least Putin is openly corrupt and his mistakes can be corrected given enough time. But the corruption among western leaders is subversive and destructive to the very core of western civilization. There's no solution to the massive problems they're causing short of war, revolution or genocide.

>Russia is not playing "american democracy....
And from all the turmoil in US .over the 2016 election result. One has to ask,
Is the US playing "American democracy?"

WHAT fucking liberties, you triple-nigger?
Liberties to support controlled-opposition from the West, that will weaken your country?
NOBODY who's a "worthwhile" person (educated, not-a-kiddo, non-liberashka) would NEVER admit to liking the 90s
Do you even know WHY there were "liberties" in 90s Russia? Dumbass kid, go jump a bridge

>>he steals from his countrymen
So do our leaders, they are called "taxes"
>>creates fake crimes for his opposition
We have CNN and they do the EXACT same thing
>>invades Ukraine
Good, they suck. Also, we invade anyone who has oil, so that we can get oil
>>runs the country like a mob boss
So?
>He's a bad leader, a bad guy, and drags down European potential.
You're wrong, I disagree with you, and what potential?

What i really want to know is why we aren't trading goods with Russia. I understand why we wouldn't want to be dependent on their oil, but why aren't we trading other goods?

>Trudeau didn't wire it to the Caymans.

So who did?

>Triple Nigger
That's a new one

Wrong. The ultimate redpill is realizing that Rasputin did nothing wrong.

>Based Putinbot.

if you dont realize Putin is good. you need to fuck off and kill yourself.

I'm interested in your experience.
Do you think the tightening of civil liberties is due to the constant low-level "war" being fought against Russia?
The globalists kicked the shit out of the country in the 1990s. - and now they want a second go.
Soros and his color revolutions are an ever present threat?
Look at Ukraine ..... That's a piece of Soros handiwork.
They want to Balkanise Russia .... Chew it up chink by chunk.
Is Putin's response an attempt to keep the 5columns under control?

Literally wut? His domestic policy is shit and makes the average life there shit as a consequence. His foreign policy is shit too. It has isolated Russia from Western markets and wastes resources better spent on improving Russia. His foreign policy is meant to keep him in power, because it distracts Russians from their shit life with him in power. Thus, his foreign policy is his domestic policy.

China has good foreign policy. Build your country, then project strength.

>asking underage liberashka faggot for "experience"
are you braindead? you're actually talking to someone who thought the 90s were a pretty ok time before putin, because getting gunned down on the street by mobsters was A-OK, since you had "liberties" on TV and they showed homos

hi is christian, so nope

He's not a good guy, just a very smart one that's made and used some very powerful friends.

He is against the Islamisation of Europe though, so in that regard, one could consider him a "good guy".

The ultimate redpill is when you realize Russia is the reason we have Marxists in our colleges and controlling our media, and they actively work with leftist groups to promote disunity and discord within the US as well as abroad by being as radical leftist as possible.

Hello.
I am really interested in what this other guy is saying.... Maybe we can discuss without the personal abuse and vitriol?
Let's hear what he has to say?

>The ultimate redpill is when you realize that Putin is the good guy
Putin is good goy

Russia was shit in the 1990s because it actually was shit for the 20 years before that and it all came apart. Eastern Germany was shit too. Poland was shit too. But they did not have a shit governments, attracted investment, and have become better than Russia.

Liberties of not going to prison for liking a political post on facebook.

Our constitution says "guaranteeed fredom of speech, censorship is prohibited".
In the same time puton jails random people for facebook likes and blocks pornhub and gelbooru.

At first it was getting better with him.
Now were just turning into an absolute authiritarian elitist shithole where the 0.1% are treating the rest as their personal property and it is not a great thing.

What goods exactly?

The US and globalists are fighting an economic war against Russia.
If that does not work we go to a hot war.
None of us simple folk should look forward to,that.

>isolated russia from western markets
yeah, you're welcome to re-watch the video that I have already posted
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if by "western markets" you mean IMF "loans for lollipops" then yeah Putin went by that, to try and keep Russia's territorial integrity.
and how Russia is pretty much the only country OPENLY telling jewish puppets from the US and EU to fuck off, bans your banksters, bans your NGOs, is a PLUS for foreign policy, but you can't admit this because you're a little bitchboy and you will FOREVER be hurt by russia

>taxes
>CNN
>Ukraine deserves it
>corruption and death gets a so? response
>Eastern Europe has no potential

I think you're just messing around and I'm wasting time with you. Nice baiting this thread though.

yes :(

>His foreign policy is shit too. It has isolated Russia from Western markets

>implying it isn't better to be poor than obey some faggots on the west

learn what independence and freedom is

I'm sure the dozens of retards who managed to get themselves imprisoned with social media activity, aren't such a massive loss to Russia.

YOU are talking about these events however, because they worry you, since you are exactly the type of imbecile who's a worthless and talentless unemployed faggot that lives with his mother, and blames all his life's problems on Putin.

I'd send you to a work camp as well.

>putin behaves just like hitler

Trump would be too if he wasn't a Jew puppet

Ok....
From what I understand the Russian rest our e were totally stolen by thenUS corporates and the "partners" the now oligarchs.
It's hard to get those national assets back once stolen.
I don't know enough to compare with how Poland respond post USSR.
I do a lot of reading re RF and it seems they are fighting with both hands tied behind back...
The don't control the central bank, don't control monetary policy.....and the US is waging economic War with sanctions and military threats.
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But at the same time Russia fund right parties all over Europe. Right?

>he did bad things but so did Obama and Hilliary so it's fine