Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?

Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?

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Honorary Anglos.

There are many reasons. Mainly, because Russia's goal is the destruction of the unity among Western countries and thus the isolation of the United States.

Well, USA already is half black, so I guess you can get white niggers too.

I thought the Irish were white niggers (I'm irish btw)

Might as well, almost voted in a communist as your president anyways so it cant be an ideological difference.

You clearly don't live near russians.

They're the ONE country with more nukes than us so no.

>Finnish nigger
>Complaining about Russian niggers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History

This is the actual theoretical reason. I don't see any historical evidence for it, though. Most of the pivot area seems to hurt Russia more than it helps.

>hides behind EU flag
I just know my neighbors, sven.

A fucking F*nn appears to shitpost about Russia.
Why am I not surprised?

> t. american nigger
Why should we be partners with Nigger states of America?
Russians hate you. Those who don't, are (((5th column))) and traitors. Most of them are in jail.

Our God Emperor will turn you into radioactive ash

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Better question: should you?

>Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?

That is like asking why shouldn't be 100% partners with ISIS.

What we know as Modern russia (post after Boris Yeltsin) has not been around long enough to be trustworthy given the ideological differences of our governments and that whole cold war thing .. we would probably consider closer ties after like 10 or so more democratic elections

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This slavnigger gets it.
Russians and Americans are destined to be enemies. You cannot argue with fate.
Also, stop falling for the "based Russia xd" Sup Forums memes. Russians are disgusting, vodka addicted neo-niggers. They're not even really white.

>) has not been around long enough to be trustworthy

It's the opposite modern Russia has been on the opposite sides of almost every conflict america has been in. They don't gain anything from supporting NK or Assad, but they do it in spite of the U.S.

>Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?
Because Putin is a lying sack of shit
Because being "partners" means he's fucking us over.
Putin is constantly provoking war with the US with his cyberwarfare attacks on America and his repeated threat to annihilate the West with nuclear war.

The right-wing conservative Republicans might be on their knees worshiping the Kremlin and sucking Putin's cock, but everyone else knows better than to trust him.

wut
13% but ouch
You have to go back.
Holy fuck you are one to talk little bro.
We already consider Israel our most important ally so what the fuck are you talking about? We should dump Israel for Rudsia anyways.

In what way is it like that?

Current Russian commie government are 1actually 00% PRO-WEST. They're steal money from THE people and send to their children living in EU/USA.

*100%

Doing business with the russians is no different to doing business with the chinese. Youre gonna get ripped off.

They have literally nothing to offer but beet soup and old lady porn.

Rebbit retard confirmed. Any actual arguments as to why we shouldn't be partners?

This is what globalist kikes say.
The truth is they are for uniting the west against the banking jews trying to commandeer all sovereignty for themselves.

yes

Russia still hold a major grudge against the West for the whole cold war thing and losing. Putin is an ex KGB Officer who has not forgotten what it meant to be defeated.

Boris Yeltsin was the closest we came to having good relations with the Ruskies because he pushed for the elite to adopt a Democratic/Republican approach to their problem solving endeavors.

Putin almost decided to be allies but a series of blunders on both sides back in the 90's led to a total mistrust of one another and now it will be like this for a long time.

The Russians do not have our best interests at heart.

Zapad 2017.

>Russians and Americans are destined to be enemies. You cannot argue with fate.
but see we allied together and defeated the Aryan menace twice, and emasculated them the second time, along with their Honoraryan allies, and President Reagan and Premier Gorbachëv were good buddies who ngeotiated nuclear disarmament, and despite being the two most crazy scary Empires in history (NATO and Warsaw pact) we never let local engagement drag us into full scale war like a literal first in world history. Russians aren't are natural enemies. They simply aren't. History proves it.

The memory is still too fresh about pro-russian forces shooting down a passenger jet with a russian BUK in Ukraine.
As long as the ruskies keep denying that the dutch won't cooperate im afraid.

Your partnership means fuck all.

We already to be partners after the cold war and we were worse off than before.

Sorry about that. It wasn't our fault. You know who rules us. :(

Will our nukes combined, we will obliterate the enemy

>In what way is it like that?

Russia and america don't really get along. They never had since the cold war.

They want to destroy our govt. This isn't a hur dur Trump thing. Russia's distrust and hatred for the U.S. govt hasn't changed since the cold war.

Anthropomorphizing a political relationship is silly, they are largely opposed to American interests, but that doesn't mean every interaction with them is a negative.

>This is what liberals actualy believe

Which American interests. Be specific. And Israel doesn't count.

The Russian elite and military high command almost dragged us into a 3rd world war on several occasions actually. Brezhnev's term was filled with conspiracies to do so.
Nuclear disarmament didn't work at all. It just got more organized.
NATO and Warsaw pact basically had no local engagements, instead the Soviets were massacring satellite states populations by the thousands, While Americans poured billions into the economies of the Western states to keep people chilled out.
Gorbachev and Reagan were not buddies. They just happened to be the two most powerful state actors on Earth and Gorbachev knew his system was kaput. He was trying to ease the transition.

It was 100% our fault. Stop blaming Jews for everything it makes you sound retarded and lose all credibility.

Should we be fighting the Russians? No. But it's the way it's going to be for a long time.

>The Russians do not have our best interests at heart.
Very true, but I would support russia against the american govt and any patriotard golems

>Should we be fighting the Russians? No. But it's the way it's going to be for a long time.

Spoiler we are fighting Russia now.

Israel does count you idiot. And btw Russians are not opposed to Israel as much as you think.

Their interest with Europe, the ME, EA, Latin America, literally anything we want to do in the world the Russians are on the other side.

Sometimes for good reason, mostly for not.
I'm a former commie block fag, stop worshiping Putin you cunt. It's embarrassing.

Russia has more in common with U.S. than Europe/China. Both nationalist countries, majority white and Christian.

We should have beers and open borders with Russia.

There are countless books written about why this can't happen anytime soon.

The if's and why nots don't matter when you don't trust eachother and constantly meddle in eacother's affairs.

literally 0 reason not to
youre retarded if youre believing cold war propaganda in 20 fucking 17

>Gorbachev knew his system was kaput. He was trying to ease the transition.
He did bring about the USSRs collapse, albeit the country couldnt sustain itself against the US for more then a decade or two more. He tried and failed to modernize it then a year later integrate it into the globalist system

> but everyone else knows better than to trust him.
America is the one country you cannot trust. You can trust every other country in the world to act in rational self-interest except America. You can trust Putin to look out for ethnic Russians and the countries close to Russia. You can trust Israel to stab you in the back out of a neurotic desperation for self-preservation. But our foreign policy, our wrath or our beneficence, is bestowed upon the world by the decree of a random number generator weighted in Israel's favor.

Until Obama's sanctions, we were doing quite well.

We meddle in their shit as well. It's a weird love affair, but even a dysfunctional relationship can have merits.

He was ahead of his time. He didn't believe in the concept of kicking the can down the road.

He saw it's eventual collapse, the system was rotting from the inside and it was literally just a matter of time.
He choose to be a part of the change rather than die not knowing or watch his country fall into countless war, chaos and possible total annihilation in his geriatric years. If Gorbachev didn't move in the direction he did we would be seeing a far worse fate for lots of people today.

You don't trust a r*ssian.

But that's the point. If it was a total hatred we would already be at war. We work with the Russians more than MSM would like the American public to believe. But boogeymen are good for keeping a populace in check and pre occupied.

The Russian and Americans have tons of interests aligned and they make do with it 24/7. But Russia is the only other real superpower on earth, even today so of course there will be drama.

You literally didn't name a single interest.

And we DIDN'T go to war despite people on both sides itching to. The result fucking counts. And I'm Ruthenian and even I think you sound like a stupid fucking хoхoл right now. America and Russia can live side by side in peace and friendship in separate countries and separate developments.

>You can trust Putin to look out for ethnic Russians

You can trust Putin to use that as a weak fucking excuse to destabilize the Baltic states internally, creating a crisis that neutralizes Article V of the NATO treaty so he can invade and reclaim Tsarist Russia because he's a delusional megalomaniac.

ftfy, 55 Savushkina Street, St Petersburg dweller with a proxy.

That would mean pushing Russia and the EU closer together, which is something the US doesn't want, since such an alliance would eventually challenge American hegemony.

I'm not going to do your homework for you buttfuck.

As stated earlier countless books have been written on the subjects. Look it up you illiterate faggot

You obviously can be partners with Russia.
You should just lose this naive USA + Russia

He really screwed up in 1990-1991 letting yeltsin have free reign and disband the country when they could have kept some republics

This thread only exist because people we know that it wont be long till Trump's connections with Russia are confirmed.

I'd tell you the state I live in but there are so few Carpatho-Ruthenian churches in the United States you'd 100% be able to dox me you fucking CIA fuckwit. Stop sewing discord and hatred among the nations, Ιούδας. Your inheritance has been taken and given to another.

dont forget about china, those fucks are up to somethin behind that wall i swear

Lots of mistakes have been made. You live and you learn. Belarus and the Stan Republics, particularly Kazakhs should have never been disbanded.

Because being 100% partners with us isn't Russia's aim you fucking cuck

Why wouldn't you trust yourself?

China is a regional power. Not a superpower. They can't project their strength beyond their immediate borders, and even with that they struggle.

The Chinese are trying to modernize. The Russians are dirt poor but they are still ahead of the game against the Chinese in many facets.
Chinese wealth also almost totally comes from U.S. manufacturing, it's one of the primary reasons they are so heavily invested in African neo colonialism.
They understand the U.S. holds too much sway. and relying on the Russians and Persians for their raw resources is a crap shoot as well.

That being said, that won't go too well either. The Europeans warned the Chinese about getting into Africa too deep. Shits already been cleaned to the bone pretty extensively.

They will do what they will though.

Everything from Mexico is low quality, even the bait.

pittsburgh?

how can you trust a nation that hacks your elections

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

>Yury Felshtinsky, Alexander Litvinenko, Boris Berezovsky, David Satter and Vladimir Pribylovsky claim that the 1999 bombings were a false flag attack coordinated by the FSB in order to win public support for a new full-scale war in Chechnya (while Boris Kagarlitsky claims the bombings were coordinated by the GRU).

He's a terrorist that bomb honest hard working christian civilians. We have a policy in this country not to work with terrorists.

archive.is/b40eJ

I go to the Estonian Lutheran Church in Sterling Heights, MI.

They have an economy smaller than fucking Italy and simply wish to manage a US decline.

>Yury Felshtinsky, Alexander Litvinenko, Boris Berezovsky, David Satter and Vladimir Pribylovsky

oy vey

Ahhh the home country. Warms my heart to hear it mentioned.
I, for one, do not trust the State of Israel.

they didn't provide any proof though, that is the same thing as 9/11 conspiracies that george bush blew up the towers just to kill a couple of brown kids in Iraq

Agreed.

competing interests.
They want oil up, we want it down.
They are allied with Iran and Best Korea
They want us out of places where we want to be.
you can argue the value of friendship with Saudi vs Iran all day but Russia will always have different interests.

proofs?

>China
>Regional power

Is war with Russia inevitable? Why would we ever go to war with them? They're not morally evil like ISIS.

Go and read where they are now. Each one of those men were assassinated, and not in a 'maybe it was anassination we might never know', these were straight cold blooded murders meant to send a message. But by means keep being fooled by your jew masters that bomb innocent christian civilians.

(((american politicians))) won't have it, they're too white and too christian

The Lithuanians are all right but now I'm find with the кaцaпoв conquering you and converting you to пpaвocлaвниe.

>Russia wants to destroy our government
Retard statements like this without any basis in fact are the mark of a Redditor. Modern Russia hates communists and are happy that the yoke of socialism is gone. Russians are resentful of team America world police and liberal moral judgment passing just like any other country. Russia supports international sovereignty while the US likes to control whose in power in what country. Trumps message that we should stop being world police resonated with a lot of people, people realize however that a complete reversal can't be done in one day, it's a steady process

they did though. The plastic explosive used had serial numbers that were traced back to FSB ammunition warehouses near Ryazan. also seeeach person investigating the bombings were assassinated

you would have to be a Russian to not see what is going on. Go away ivan

nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

>At 9 p.m. sharp, there should be a crowd of people walking outside the building,” she said. “Nine p.m. sharp.” One Russian newspaper put the number of employees at 400, with a budget of at least 20 million rubles (roughly $400,000) a month. During her time in the organization, there were many departments, creating content for every popular social network: LiveJournal, which remains popular in Russia; VKontakte, Russia’s homegrown version of Facebook; Facebook; Twitter; Instagram; and the comment sections of Russian news outlets. One employee estimated the operation filled 40 rooms.

I feel bad for gullible Westerners thinking that you can be friends with russkies. I guess you'll have to get buttfucked by them before you understand.

Let's archive it
archive.is/6Y5J2

already did

archive.is/b40eJ

Lol. China GDP > (USA + Russia) GDP

Bc if there's no external boogie man how would either govt keep their plebs in check

NATO was the counterpoint to the Warsaw Pact. Soviet Russia is dead, the second that happened NATO became obsolete. NATO is a sham, the only reason it exists is because of the military industrial complex. If I were Russia I'd be fucking pissed that not only does NATO still exists, its constantly expanding its territories and powers. The west runs coups and installs puppet regimes friendly to NATO, look at what happened with Ukraine

Din homse.

> t. dirty fin
We'll deal with you right after Ukrane and Poland.

Muh imperialism and petrodollar, basically.

If you don't like the idea of a Beast, a world hegemony, if you're not a neo-liberal, the yeah. Russia is fine.

Molon labe.

Nope, Trump and Putin should draft a merger. Boosting up to 150+ states sounds like an excellent idea to me. How quickly would the rest of the world show true contrition for their hostilities against us and present proper homage?

What does 'being friends' mean? Diplomatic ties and the label of 'allies'? That already exists. The Russians are globally powerless

no