What does nu-Sup Forums thinks about gays not having the privilege of telling stores to print gay pride shirts?

What does nu-Sup Forums thinks about gays not having the privilege of telling stores to print gay pride shirts?


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Prefaced by acknowledging that I am a business-owner myself. I think that businesses, as institutions granted permission to operate by the state, should be compelled to offer any services which they advertise to any paying customer, provided their request does not constitute a criminal act. This is in keeping with their role as licensed operators of the state, which has a duty to protect its citizens against discrimination. If a printer/bakery/landscaper/what-have-you can deny services based on one criteria, it affords precedence to allow for discrimination based on any criteria.

I also think that individuals, as free agents, have no such duty to service any and all clients, and maintain a freedom of association. Private contracts and arrangements between individuals need not be compelled to act to the same standards as a licensed business. But the right to operate as a business is a privilege, and it is in the interest of the nation entire that they be compelled to service all citizens.

A business is not a person. People have rights. Businesses don't have rights. The right to turn down service based on religion is bogus. If you make cakes, or shirts, then serve your damn customers. I support the right of a pastor to refuse to perform a gay wedding. That's different. That's freedom of religion. I don't think a county clerk should be able to do the same. If your religion prevents you from being able to do this job then find another job,

'Bake my cake' may be on its way out the door.

>The Supreme Court said Monday that it would hear a major religious liberties case that could grant new freedoms to businesses to discriminate against gays and lesbians — and potentially others — based on the faith of the owners.

>The high-profile dispute pits the rights of religious individuals against gay rights, two issues that have been at the forefront of several recent Supreme Court decisions. Both are high priorities for Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, whose vote in this matter will probably be key.

>In the past, Kennedy has been both a strong supporter of gay rights and a defender of religious liberty.

>But Justice Kennedy, who wrote the court’s opinion upholding same-sex marriages, has also joined the court’s conservatives in upholding religious exemptions. He joined the 5-4 majority in the Hobby Lobby case, which said the Christian family who owned a chain of craft stores could refuse to provide their employees the full range of contraceptives called for by the federal healthcare law.

latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-gays-religion-20170626-story.html

Being self employed means you can pick your jobs.

Shoul the court outlaw consumer boycotts?

so im guessing the sign we see in every shop stating WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE has no meaning anymore. I don't care who you are. if I don't want to serve you I shouldn't have to.

Consumers aren't businesses, and aren't required to act as such.

Consumers can boycott Israeli-made products on the basis of their origin.
Business can't deny services to Israelis on the basis of their origin.

Faggots who want a dildo cake or who want their gay wedding catered can find another baker or caterer if someone either because faggotry disgusts him or muh religion doesn't want to do it.

Then don't become a state-licensed operator. Make your money under-the-table out of your yard or some shit. The right to engage in large-scale commerce comes at a cost.

That's the way it should be, but it's not. The government long ago proved you do not actually own your business, that they can tell you who to serve.

It should be noted though, that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits refusal of service over race, religion, etc. It does NOT, however, say anything about sexual orientation.

But if we allow businesses to refuse service to anyone then you could literally get the shit from the 50s and 60s where blacks can't eat at this restaurant. I just think if the entity in question is a business that has only one purpose, make money buy selling cakes, then they ought to sell anyone a cake that's willing to pay for it.

Isn't this case different from the baker's case. If I remember well the case of the baker is about refusing to make any cake, meaning a total refusal of service, while this case is about refusing to put some gay pride shit in the shirts, not refusing to make other kind of stuff for the customer.

All that being said, I can't understand why a gay person would want someone who clearly doesn't want to make them a cake (or in OPs case a shirt) to serve them. Do you really think they're going to do a good job if they don't want to make it for you in the first place? Why not just find a provider of the service you're looking for that has no problems with it.

Yeah, but the client have a right to demand the owner exactly what they want?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if most gay wedding cakes have something gay on them. Rainbows, etc.

I want a cake that says "I love little kids". I want you to bake me a cake with a little boy weiner on there.

Do you have the right to refuse me service?

I want a cake that says "nigger" on it.

Do you have the right to refuse me service?

If your answer is not no in both these cases, then you have just disproved your own statement.

Business owners should have full control over who they serve and don't serve. This will either draw more customers to the business or drive them away and the free market will decide.

If they're advertising a custom service, then any request within the limits of their equipment, and which doesn't violate any laws, should be expected.

I would prefer that business post a list of who they discriminate against on their front door.

I think it's sick that we have to respect Muslim traditions but shitting all over Christian beliefs, the very foundation of our country, is not only fine but is also seen as righteous.

maybe don't advertise that your customers can have anything they want on their cakes if you're unwilling to fulfil this.

I will admit that there is a difference between being unwilling to serve certain customers entirely and being unwilling to produce products that you as the business owner find morally repulsive

dead kike on a stick

>as institutions granted permission to operate by the state,
>This is in keeping with their role as licensed operators of the state

This cuckoldry right here is why we need ancap.

Just answer the question

Wasn't the wedding cake denied because it had to brides on top or they just told them it was for gays?

Good.

I'm gay but this shit has gone far enough.

If a Muslim bagger can tell me to go to another fucking line to pay for my bacon, then I find it within a REAL business owner's right to deny service to anyone FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. The free market will either forgive them the loss of custom, or the business will fail because that one sale was absolutely necessary to allow the business to continue running.

Don't force people to print propaganda for a cause they do not support. Fuck you.

That owner has the latest in vaginal headwear fashions. You didnt put a snake on my original sin pride shirt? What kind of clammo shirt is this now?

All gays should be executed. In fact all other "minority" groups need to be purged except blacks. That way more funding for black programs and welfare to uplift our standard of living would be available. Whites, no, the world owes us for slavery.

>the government should be able to dictate who I serve.
socialism 101

Ancap and any anarcho-ideology is an unsustainable and transitional state of affairs which can only occur between the fall and rise of stable governments.

Hierarchies are endemic to nature, and will always trend toward the centralization and homogenization of power.

Nice

I wasn't being serious about ancap you buffoon.
It was hyperbole in reply to the massive statist cock up your anus.

t. living kike on a dick

>comes at a cost
Apparently your testicles.

The free market will fix it.
Another store will see that faggots want to pay for having shirts printed and take their money.

>women have test inside them i dive in and go looking for it

While true examples such as this or dictating that restaurants must allow public breastfeeding shows why the whole system needs a reboot.
That the government have the time to intervene in petty shit like this is just wrong.

> rights are granted by the government.

Rights are your freedom FROM government. The government doesn't give them to you.

This is why Canada has fallen to communism.

Lick those boots harder boy, I can't see my reflection yet.

People run businesses you dumb nigger. And people have rights whether you like it or not. This store owner has the right to not serve faggots if he doesn't want to. Anything else would be slavery.

Alright. You have a valid point. I think it's wrong for a business to refuse to make a normal wedding cake for a pair of fags just because they're fags. Just like it'd be wrong to say we don't make wedding cakes for niggers. I think it's ok for a business to refuse to make a custom wedding cake that the business owners find deeply offensive. Like, "make me a cake that shows two guys fucking on it."

Legal tender and common law. Nobody wants or needs or can bake this crappy shit. Bake my pussy cake. What guns are being used by the way? So histrionic

A business is an agent of the state. It is not in any state's interest to allow its operatives to discriminate against any of its citizens.

Whether the free market would embrace or rebel against a discriminatory business is not a risk that the state needs to take, when it can compel its businesses to service all citizens, thereby increasing the odds that the business will succeed and return taxable earnings.

These are the same faggots and socialists that would gladly burn down that guy's printing business if they found out he printed Trump shirts or White Pride shirts for a paying customer that he wasn't even related to.

>if we allow businesses to refuse service to anyone then you could literally get the shit from the 50s and 60s where blacks can't eat at this restaurant
And thats a good thing. Back to plebbit.

It whets your appetite though. Only shrimp dicked rightists get off on bottling and smelling their own farts. All the random assholes people bitch about are just conservatives

>A business is an agent of the state
Go away communist.

>granted permission to operate by the state
This is why nobody outside of the UN and Canada itself respects Canada as an actual country. Despite 'permission', there's a difference between publicly owned and privately owned, as determined by who pays for it, and if it's privately owned, the owner makes the rules. Otherwise it could be argued your house, as an institution granted permission to operate by the state, should be compelled to have house keys printed for anybody who asks.

who carres, dont tell me how to live and I wont tell you, hate religious fucks trying to pass laws using the damned bible.
here is an active CHristian discord
G3mmeV

give em hell user's

They used to have to prove net benefit to society in order to incorporate. America doesn't own its central bank though so rothschilds do it instead. Fake money backed in air. Plus interest

I'm confused by your post. Is English your first language or are you just excited?

>businesses are not allowed to have rights
kys

I dont give twelve fucks. Tell me what blew up your lack of brains or say nothing

>I want people to be forced into labor

You want slavery, you dumb faggot.
You and that canadian cuck can go raise each others transgender kids and leave the thinking to the rational people.

>The right to engage in large-scale commerce comes at a cost.

Yea those costs are called taxes you fucking moron.

No it's not. You're a fucking cuck.

Hand rubbing intensifies

>But if we allow businesses to refuse service to anyone then you could literally get the shit from the 50s and 60s
You know this shit happened because of jim crow laws?
As in this was on the books, mandated by the state?
That shit wouldn't happen again. At least not in any major fashion. Even if it did, the free market would likely end the business.

So... Retarded then. Right.
Very typical of the pro-pedo group.

You act like the rules in Canada apply to every country.

>then you could literally get the shit from the 50s and 60s where blacks can't eat at this restaurant

You say that like it's a bad thing.

yes, buisness should have right to decline custom orders for any reason.If a buisness doesnt want to make cakes for gays, then they have all the right

Now if they have a cake shop and refuse to sell them a cake thats already made on the shelves, thats where I have a problem with it.

Ok haavara and pink swastika and ettore ovazza and elliot shimon and epstein and kiss of putin and my logo is a bundle of sticks

>"legal tender and common law"
>follow that up with a non sequitur
>starts talking about cakes
>starts talking about guns
You realize were talking about shirts right?

I think it's a combo of ESL, emotional arousal, and mind-altering substances.

Just like how in this article, a competing store donated 500 shirts to the gay parade to "show support."

Guess who most people are going to go to when they need their T-shirts printed next time? The competing store.
If you WANT to shoot yourself in the foot by not serving certain people, that should be your RIGHT. The free market will fix it, and competitors will take over that piece of the market that you refuse to serve.

Not good enough. You win i lose enjoy your thread betty crocker

WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER

What part of that do you fucking pants-less rape-goats not understand?

Maximum kikey prolapse

From both a moral as well as a legal position, all gays should be put on their knees and shot in the back of the head.

>common law
Where is that in any statutes? You regulate yourselves and not they all either post it. Or some dont. The reality is only the latter

A business has a right to refuse service to clients at any time for any reason as long as refusal of service does not directly lead to the death or injury of someone, for example, you should not be able to refuse a man dying of thirst water.

Businesses are under no obligation to provide service to anyone, as the people who maintain the business are not your fucking slaves and can make their own choices who they do and do not want to work for.

Why does every single "LGBTQ" moron ever act like a fucking pre-schooler that doesn't want to take a nappy? Why do you always prove me right?

It's one thing if we disagree, it's another if I have no idea what you're even talking about.

>Needing this many sentences to get your point across.
Back to pleddit leaf.

well i think that the business owner had the right to do it, your private business shouldn't be forced to do work you don't want it to. if i owned the company, i wouldn't turn them away, who gives a shit what they wanted to print? but it's his choice.

Like kurt cobain said when he said everybody is gay? Women like hershey's kisses and other women. We have a 300 million dollar muh literal dick boxing match coming up. We all know what happens out there. Everybody is dead and an orange frog rules. Never going to happen. Nobody has a thoughts machine that can see how you dont peek at urinal dicks you fucking goof

About as insane a response as any that would argue with that, I suppose.

> I am a business-owner myself

No, you are not.

You are a FUCKING LEAF. And this is typical leaf b8 and shitposting.

SAGE goes in all fields.

>When cuckleafs are so cucked you can't tell whether they're trolling or serious

Youre a transparent synagogue of satan noballed dyke master with daddy issues
Cool story sally jessy

>People have rights.

And people make up businesses.

>Businesses don't have rights.

So I can go into a black bakery and have them bake me a KKKake?

it's their product, their rules

>all businesses display my disclaimer and this is irrelevant to a common law system

>A business is an agent of the state.

What the fuck are you talking about, The only way that a busines acts as an agent of the state is in it's collection of taxes on transactions. Without a transaction there is no state involvement. As a business owner who has conducted business everywhere from the US to germany I can tell you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.

I wasnt talking about that, golden frog calf

You're just making my prejudice against your insane ilk grow stronger.

>A business is not a person. People have rights. Businesses don't have rights. The right to turn down service based on religion is bogus.
This.

the only exception is private clubs.

I didnt say it was illegal, i said it was wrong.

I am totally for custom orders being able to accept and decline for any reason.

To not sell someone a cake off the shelves in a store is wrong, and i am unsure if it is illegal.

If you cant see the difference between the two you are lost, real cute with the nazi flag. YOu are so edgy , YOu 12, newfag?

Go take what you would describe as a big hard dump that scares you as much as it hurts you and then realise billions of people do this every day and prevent your ass cancer. Circumcised nofap period enabler. I debate. You see nothing but flags and then you obfuscate. You are a twerp. Always are

>going to a christian bakery to ask something that you know is a violation of their religion

Kill yourself, faggot. The degenerates didn't buy a off-the-shelf cake. They went in there to fuck with the owner.

If some gay asshole can force you to violate your religious beliefs, then that opens the door for anyone to violate your religious beliefs.

If someone turns you down if you buy something pre-made, then that's bullshit, but if you go in for a custom order that you know pisses off the proprietor, and use your protected class status to violate their 1A rights, then you can eat shit.

This is why I can't stand the LGBT community. You faggots behave like the new brown shirts, and I'm glad that the courts are telling you to get fucked, because you've clearly gotten to big for your britches and someone needs to take you faggots down a peg or two.

What a stupid fucking discussion. What a sad time it is when we are getting pushed around by sodomites. There should still be sodomy laws. These people should be imprisoned for even declaring they are sodomites in public. Sodomites are superfluous and contribute nothing to the continuity of society. They should be on the margins of society and be thankful that they are not annihilated.

Kikes did brown shirts the first time now you do pink shirts and blame the fags

Grab em. Hi fags take my daughters bls

100 percent agree

a custom order is able to be denied for any reason as its custom and a service.

TO refuse sale of a premade cake on shelf is fucked up. The gays are stiring the pot with this shit

>Kentucky
BASED KY
85% non spic white

if your state is not 80%+ non spic white, you can't post in this thread.
and you are a race traitor

How manh air conditioners have you stolen this week?

Why are you gay?