Smoking Cannabis or using any other drugs without prescription purposes
Prostitution
Gambling
Abortion besides saving the life of the mother and for deformed children
Homosexuality, Sodomy and other sexual deviance such as sexual subgroups like BDSM or furries
Dressing immodestly outside of the home
Pretending to be another gender
Adultery
No fault divorce
Pornography
Do you agree Sup Forums?
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By this same logic should we have a prescription to drink coffee? or alcohol?
>needing a nanny government to tell you what you can and can't do
No they are allowed because of tradition.
>Not wanting to make society better
Faggot
As long as raping foreigners is legal I'm fine with it.
But it's been my tradition to vape a little bowl of reefer every day since I was 14, that means I'm good right?
>stop liking what I don't like
None of these things harm you directly if you just abstain from them.
>Smoking Cannabis or using any other drugs without prescription purposes
Does it include coffee and alcohol?
>Prostitution
why?
>Gambling
yes
>Abortion besides saving the life of the mother and for deformed children
It should also include rape cases and such.
>Homosexuality, Sodomy and other sexual deviance such as sexual subgroups like BDSM or furries
yes
>Dressing immodestly outside of the home
yes
>Pretending to be another gender
yes
>Adultery
yes
>No fault divorce
yes
>Pornography
no
>Let's expand the powers of the government.
How about stop worrying about making things illegal because you don't agree with them. What we need is less government, you fucking idiot.
No, that means your parents were failures and you belong in a prison cell.
>>Not wanting to make society better
Society will be better if the people are good. Shitty people like poles can't further society, with or without legislature.
>What we need is less government
There is not enough government, look at the west, it is full of gays and things like that because government stopped policing it.
You make good people with a strong state to enforce moral laws.
Nope.
Hey guys, remember when Sup Forums (and /new/) was libertarian. Good times.
Please dont come to the uk you backwards piece of shit.
I have been to the UK and it made me feel sick. Such a disgusting country with no belief in morals.
Liberals only behave in the way that they do because the government protects them. If businesses and other private entities were allowed to turn away services, things would be different. Less government = more freedom.
Stupid. Forbidding all this stuff just make it attractive to youth and also some of these good buisness for criminals. Just look up Al Capone and prohibition.
But OP is just fixing culture by making everyone not do the things they don't like doing.
Are you retarded, it doesn't matter if these things are illegal, they will still happen.
Your companies were the ones who pushed for gay marriage legalisation. Fact of the matter is that companies have been thoroughly infiltrated by leftists.
The problem with Al Capone was that the US government requires too much evidence for stuff. If they could have just walked in and shot him it would have been fine.
The point is not to completely wipe it out, that is not how reality works, the point is to show it is wrong and unacceptable, thus making it harder to be accepted in wider society. You will always have a small amount of degenerates in a society, but you need to make sure they do not influence the mainstream using state authority.
Making shit threads should be illegal.
Sage.
I bet you are a homosexual.
>Not enjoying BDSM
I don't understand. Why would you make a retarded thread if you weren't a masochist?
Well, if we're going in that direction, we have to be fully authoritarian. How's that working out in other countries?
Works out better than the West.
>infringing on someone's rights because you find his behavior "degenerate"
Lol
>He thinks gays should have rights
You may not but lots of people do or they'll fuck up the whole society.
People should be free until they prove their irredeemable degeneracy.
Yes, although abortion would be encouraged/mandatory in the case of children with disabilities.
An aim of mine would be to wipe out all genetic diseases.
I'll bet you anything that those countries in some way rely on Western resources to operate at anything resembling a civilized level.
Government's only purpose is to protect the sovereignty of its citizens and maintain a standing military to defend its borders.
Anything beyond that is limiting the freedom of its citizens to innovate on behalf of humanity.
>overnment's only purpose is to protect the sovereignty of its citizens and maintain a standing military to defend its borders.
Lol no, take your liberalism back to red.dit where it belongs.
>There is not enough government, look at the west, it is full of gays and things like that because government stopped policing it.
Actually, society was policing it just fine. It wasn't until the government claimed a monopoly on discrimination that it became a problem.
You realise that it was illegal to be gay in the west until recently right? You take away punishment and before you kn ow it the country is ran by gays. Liberalism is like a cancer you have to keep your foot on the neck.
Every human should have rights,
>inb4 gays aren't human
Don't care for meme replies
"someone's rights".
That means complete shit. Rights is just a social construct, its a concept written by feeble humans and it can be rewritten/changed at any point in time.
Point is there is a need of strong rules in order to keep society stable and healthy.
>Every human should have rights
No, only good people should have rights. Bad people should be punished.
There's an argument to be made that what is and isn't a "disability" may become a slippery slope, especially with genetic testing.
Good people literally don't need legislature for the pettiest shit like cannabis and 'modest dressing'. Only poles do. Actually, being a filthy pole should be the only thing that should be illegal.
Defined by you, of course.
Tyrant.
Sounds a lot like Sharia law to me.
Your country is being overrun by Turks, Vienna is full of gays and trannies, your people are going extinct. So where are the good people of Austria? Nowhere, because good people are created and molded, they do not magically fall from the sky and in Austria there is no force to do that.
Right on.
Then how do you propose that we walk back 60 years of liberal policy?
All we need is to abolish social welfare services and the rule forcing hospitals to treat people who can't pay. Basically any measure that spreads costs beyond the individual needs to be abolished.
Once that's done, you can legalize everything and let the underclass live as degenerately as they want without it effecting society. Let them shoot up cheap legal heroin until they die and that's the end of it. Degeneracy is a self-correcting problem if the social safety net isn't there to save them from themselves.
Sometimes tyranny is needed to restore sanity. This is one of those eras.
You have to be ruthless and have no respect for the constitutional arrangements, just roll it back, amass power in the hands of the leadership and wage war on liberal institutions while strengthening the conservative institutions. Don't play by their rules, make new rules, change laws, rig the system whatever it takes to hold onto power so you can change society.
I'll bet you didn't have a father. Always looking for a strong daddy figure to give you the punishment you crave.
>Pornography
>no
understandable.. pornography is main source of income of czech girls
My parents have together since they were 14 and are still together.
>American thinks because his society is broken beyond repair everyone's is.
No. They are human. They're just mentally ill fucked up humans who should not be encouraged. Degeneracy is not a right.
This doesn't make any sense. The whole point of erasing degeneracy is that it harms both the individual&society in the long run. Letting people "die off" in order to erase degeneracy doesn't make any sense.
The point of this is to help people and guide them.
Sounds a bit like what they've done to conservative systems.
>harm you directly
And yet they still do harm us
Jewish libertarianism everyone
>Uses Christian flag but has about two Christian opinions
Hilarious
>Smoking Cannabis or using any other drugs without prescription purposes
Making weed illegal while tabaco is legal is retarded.
>Prostitution
Congratulations, you filled mafia pockets. Whores were here when we were jumping on trees and they will be until the Sun won't burn out. You can either contol them or let someone else do it.
>Gambling
Same thing really. Heavily control this shit.
>Abortion besides saving the life of the mother and for deformed children
Add rape and it's golden.
>Homosexuality, Sodomy and other sexual deviance such as sexual subgroups like BDSM or furries
Again, all that you menage to do is put them into hidding. Next thing you know you elect a closet fag as your president.
>Dressing immodestly outside of the home
Define "modestly"
>Pretending to be another gender
Sounds resonable. But we are talking about actual crossdressing, not doing shit for laughs? Becouse if you try take away Smoleń as ms Pelagia you can suck my dick.
>Adultery
How do you plan to enforce this?
>No fault divorce
Define "fault".
>Pornography
Heavily control sure. But only thing that ban would achive is create a bunch of horny asholes. Just let them fucking jerk off in peace.
Phoneposting. Was aiming for the pirate.
>because of tradition
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Why do you do deny tradition, white man?
>Cherry-picking
>ad hominem
wew
Pole's tradition is to get drunk at every possible occasion. Being to drunk to care is our pride, our culture and our religion.
Scandinavians will be extinct soon, so this is just another good reason to be against it. Shows how weak it makes you mentally.
>How do you plan to enforce this?
Same way it used to be enforced.
I regularly enjoy all of those minus the fag stuff
Nearly everything you do harms or disadvantages others indirectly in some way.
Spoken like a true humanitarian faggot
>we need to be the voice of the voiceless, I want to help people I've never met! How do we do this? More laws and regulations!
Fucking commies
>because government stopped policing it
No, it's because society stopped giving a shit, if anything, the government is late to the game. Most enforcement of social values is lateral (from peer groups), not from the top down(the state). Relying on the state to enforce social mores we can't even agree on ourselves is what fucked us.
Sounds like Poland and Dixie share some similar traditions.
>Same way it used to be enforced.
On hearsay? Great, enjoy your balls being cut because your wife decided that she doesn't love you anymore.
Clearly you have no idea what "humanitarians" push these days if you call me "faggot humanitarian".
Point is, strong morals and rules are needed to ensure a proper, strong society.
No, the state stopped enforcing it then the society became split on it. State enforcement leads to consensus.
Unironically yes
Is this why Poland is now atheist?
Then how did society become split on it?
Legalize everything, let nature remove idiots who od, abort, transgender and fag themselves out of the race.
Because leftist infiltrators in government pushed for legalisation of these things against the will of the people.
Poland is becoming less religious, precisely because of the lack of enforcement of values.
>leftist infiltrators in government
And what is going to stop them from infiltrating your government?
>against the will of the people
No, they infiltrate the people first.
Read this user's post Trying to "fix" leeches and degenerates will only bring us down.
bretty gud
>And what is going to stop them from infiltrating your government?
Proactive purging of leftists. Something the right never did in the West because it was trying to civilised with uncivilised people. You should have listened to McCarthy.
>Poland is becoming less religious, precisely because of the lack of enforcement of values.
Bitch, back in the day state forced atheism like if it was going out of style. But i know that you are way to young to remember it. Lets talk when your balls drop.
The government.
>Bitch, back in the day state forced atheism like if it was going out of style.
You're a retard. Communists created a catholic backlash because people used the church as a means for hope. Now that secularism rules Poland Catholicism is declining, attendance is down, baptisms are down, membership is down etc. You would know this if you bothered to leave your house. Why is it down? Because secularism allows liberals to undermine the religious values of the nation and spread atheism etc.
Waaaaa! You can't do it because I don't like it. Op is a faggot.
>State enforcement leads to consensus.
Let's haul people to church under threat of repercussion. That will surely lead to spiritual revival!
If I passed a law that said people on welfare and criminals should be gassed, I'm sure society would be better off, but the ends don't justify the means. The advantaged should help the disadvantaged and try to bring them to their level so they can better the society as a whole. You could have been born black, gay whatever, you wouldn't want others to kill you, would you?
>mentally ill
Psychiatrists disagree
Punishing someone for some bad thing they did doesn't take away his rights since he gave them away when he broke the social contract, sorry senpai
No, but you can stamp down on atheism, shut down things critical of the church and stuff like that.
There will be a backlash and then they will infiltrate the people. You would end up with a 1984 totalitarian police state trying to stop them and they would still find a way to infiltrate it. Why are you so insistent on trying to save degenerates and parasites from themselves?
>You could have been born black, gay whatever, you wouldn't want others to kill you, would you?
I couldn't because my parents are not niggers or degenerates.
I want to save society from them because they reach a critical mass and then society is gone.
ITT: authoritarian faggots who have ZERO fucking clue what freedom, nor independence means.
Not really a big deal since the first poster is a fucking pole, and most likely a steinbergowitz, but to all you Americans who think big daddy government should be telling people how to live their lives are NOTHING LESS than a fucking traitor who deserves a traitors death.
Your existence is a dice roll, that doesn't make sense
Yeah, that won't lead to backlash. Ans sure, let's let church be even more complicent and removed from the faithful that it already is. That sure won't be a suicide. It's not like commies were pushing their shit at gunpoint for over 40 years and that didn't do dick!
>my parents are not niggers or degenerates
So how did they end up with you?
>and most likely a steinbergowitz
Your libertarianism is a Jewish invention though. You worship a Jewish ideology when you scream for freedoms.
No it isn't, that is not how biology works. You could have only come from your parents. Your consciousness could only ever have been from your parents, making many things set in stone. Your liberal ideas make o sense once you apply reality to it.
I'm neither so that makes no sense.
It won't lead to a backlash because the church is right, unlike the communists.
>church is right
Don't you have muslim feet to kiss?
And don't give a me this shit how he's not "real church". As a catholic you need to listen to a pope or you are a filthy heretic and deserve a pyre.
>The advantaged should help the disadvantaged
I agree. Criminals and people on welfare generally arent the "disadvantaged" though. They are thugs leeching off people's good will. And for that they should be slaughtered.
>but the ends don't justify the means.
Why not?
>You could have been born black, gay whatever, you wouldn't want others to kill you, would you?
Blacks belong in africa, where they are free to live like any other human. Whites belong in Europe. Being a homosexual in itself isint a problem - acting and encouraging people to act on your impulses is.
Besides, latest leftist pseudoscience confirms that "sexuality is fluid", meaning you can be straight at one point in your life and gay in another and it depends on the enviroment. It basically confirms what we've been saying for a very long time, that homosexuality is itself not natural, but degenerate lifestyle/upbringing leads to it. Only that leftists began to see sodomy as normal and they are too fucked in the head to realize what they have discovered.
You don't understand how the church works, precisely because you are a product of secular cancer. Pope does not have absolute authority, only when he speaks ex-cathedra, which he has not done once while he is Pope. So he can be safely ignored.
>latest leftist pseudoscience confirms that "sexuality is fluid
>pseudoscience
>confirms
Do you even understand words you use or you just like to sling shit around?
>when the subhuman delusions are well cemented in your mind
So if he does annuance that you should offer your wife (why am i kidding your balls didn't even drop yet) to abdul you will happily comply?
No because that is not possible, it would automatically make him not the Pope because it would be an act of heresy against church teachings. You should have listened in Sunday School.
Well, it's a well working business. Lots of good government employees would lose their jobs if the war was handled differently. We don't want it, don't we?
>Your libertarianism is a Jewish invention though. You worship a Jewish ideology when you scream for freedoms.
There is a world of difference between a libertarian and a Constitutionalist. I do NOT believe my rights stem from a government, I believe my rights were given to me by God, thus eliminating government altogether.
Like I said you are nothing more than an authoritarian euro kike. You have no clue what my country is based and founded on, and it is not some kike ideals you fucking moron.
People like you make me hate hitler for the faggot that he was, for if hitler wasn't such a faggot and horrible military leader, I wouldn't have to be arsed by you government grabbing kikes.
>People should be free until
>until
You don't belong in this country.
Leviticus 19:33 bitch. Let them in and threat them well! And remember Mit brennender Sorge! Who exalts his race is an enemy of God!
>if the war was handled differently
So you're implying that the entire budget is just spent on an illusion?
Kinda like the 'real communism has never been tried' argument?
Thought you prohibitionist cucks were better at mental gymnastics