Why do continentals love the EU?

You're literally ruled by unelected globalist bankers who want open borders to make Europeans an easily controlled mutt race with no allegiance to any nation.

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For France: the MSM has convinced normies that EU bring them prosperity and that pulling out will make them lose their standard of living.

>tfw a normie unironically tells you "EU is peace"

If it wasn't for the UK, the EU would be literally perfect.

The UK was behind everything that is wrong about it.

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>You're literally ruled by unelected globalist bankers
Terrible meme. All the MEPs in the parliament are elected based on autonomous decisions by the member state. Apart from the parliament which is key in managing the EU, there is the Council of EU which consists of the Prime Ministers of all member states who, you guessed it, are elected democratically again.

The meme probably comes from Jean-Claude Juncker being "unelected" as you say it, which is false again. He is the president of the EU Commission, which has members equal to the amount of EU states, and all EU states independently nominate (again, democratically) one member to join the commission. Once he joins he can then be voted by that commission to become the president of it, again, democratically, because the commission members are the indirect voice of the people from the member state they represent.

But shall we look at the beacon of democracy, the US? There is a single president being elected democratically while his entire administration is unelected and appointed by him, up to and including the military - he is both the President and Prime Minister. The congress, which is elected democratically, can then obtain a majority due to the two-party system of the US and pass literally everything they want without anyone being able to object them and without people voting democratically for it. In order for people to prevent the congress into passing their authoritarian shit, they must go out and make a lot of noise which is technically equal to blackmailing them with a civil war because they're going against what people vote for, and that happens every 4 or so years and is basically a tradition at that point. There are no such protests in the EU.

t. autistic globalist german that always pushes proEU propoganda. Looks like the US and UK will have to slap you around again.

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Convincing arguments right there

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The flustered Jewess at the end of this video is the epitome of why the EU is such a joke

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My argument is fuck off you jew puppets.
I wonder (((who))) could be behind those posts

Because it's making us rich. We're also bff with the Germans now. You're just jealous.

I'm glad you left.

>All boomers
Really sends electronic signals through the ol' nervous system...

I wonder who was behind those decisions
>mfw UKfags already forgot they were also behind the creation of israel
Hmmmm

Still, Juncker is a moron.

We do?

>He thinks we're jealous of sharing an open border with a self-hating Germany genociding itself with Merkel's children

lmao, fuck continentniggers you deserve to die out

MEPs have no power. All the power is held in the Commission (unelected), the European Central Bank (unelected) and the Council.

>what is vote dilution

The Council is made up of the various heads of government who, in most cases, can barely be described to have majority support from their electorate. In the case of the UK we don't even elect our head of government.

Basically, fuck the EU and fuck the European obsession with centralised power.

>The Council is made up of the various heads of government who, in most cases, can barely be described to have majority support from their electorate
This is true. You don't need a >50% majority to become a PM in a state, you just need the most votes
>In the case of the UK we don't even elect our head of government
True as well. She's a literal monarch

But can you please point me to a better and "more democratic" system than this? Because if you try to point at the Federal system of the US or the Oblast system of Russia, both are far worse, and there really isn't anything else in the world. You can create something like Switzerland's system for Switzerland, but you can't create that for a $18tril economy of about 400mil people.

Furthermore, as you already said, the individual state's democracy isn't really "democratic", so the EU is technically more democratic than most member states, especially more than the UK who whine constantly and have an actual unelected monarch as a head of state in 21st century

>but you can't create that for a $18tril economy of about 400mil people
Why not? I see no reason why the direct-democratic tools of initiative and referendum would lead to disaster when done on greater scale, and keeping judicative and legislative power out of your executive is a good idea regardless of how big your economy is.

Quick question for the Brits:
Do you really still believe that you're going to get a hard brexit while your government is running around telling business leaders that they're not going to leave the single market?

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CHASCH GRAD WIDER VERREISE!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

We're leaving the single market because the EU wouldn't allow a non-member to stay in it. It's that simple.

Only Remainer retards who don't actually understand what the EU is think we can stay in it.

>a more democratic solution

Easy. Not being part of a supra-national entity.

Noice, we get all your business and you loose jobs and money. Its a total win for the Eu and you get fuckt and starved.

Cant wait for Scotland to join us in the EU.

>We're leaving the single market because the EU wouldn't allow a non-member to stay in it. It's that simple.

And yet Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Switzerland all participate in the single market.

Your question is based on false assumptions. Our representatives to EU parlament were elected in general elections.

Participation and membership is not the same.

In a nutshell, Theresa may has no fucking clue what she's doing, neither does Corbyn, or anyone else. The only people we can trust are the normies from 9gag who are so intelligent that we can not comprehend their memes thus they should run the mighty empire of the commonwealth.

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Europeans are rich.

70 years of internalized jewish propaganda.

But you literally just said that the independent states are not democratic either in a post above

The problem doesn't come from the EU, it comes from the member states' outdated systems of governance which is then inherited one level higher into the EU (to a lower extent at least).

We've heard all this scaremongering before. No-one cares you Europoor.

We're leaving and nothing you can do will change that. Good luck filling the huge hole we'll be leaving.

P.s. we rekt your shit by ourselves in two world wars so just try it again you fucking piss ant European scum.

So? What does it matter if my own state is less than democratic? We can only improve that situation by leaving the EU; I want leas government involvement in the lives of ordinary people, I will take that option whenever and however it presents itself.

>sides

Euopeans haven't achieved a fraction of what the Anglo has.

I can't wait to see the continent collapse under the weight of Merkel's migrants. You fucks deserve it.

We don't. But the 'leaders' don't know or don't care.

Remember the time all your colonies got richer than you? I 'member

The Jews fear a unified White European Nation

>We can only improve that situation by leaving the EU
Crashing your economy and the entire welfare infrastructure with it, causing the state to become more socialist and corrupt in the process, is not how you improve your situation.

Like it or not, freedom in modern society is measured by wealth. When you trade your wealth for "independence" you're not gaining anything - you become independent of one entity but become more enslaved on a lower level because now you have to work more for the same money you earned a few years ago. On top of that, due to how the UK specifically works, you will now get increasingly socialist as people hooked up on the current welfare system start realizing that its about to disappear and start voting in only socialist governments to prevent that. You will earn less AND get taxed more for it. This is not freedom.

You support a Kalergist union and you dare talk to a Brit about socialism?

The only whites stupid enough to buy into communist crap are continentals. We've never had it here and we never will.

That proves my point. Everywhere we touch turns to gold. We are not just men, we are Gods.

The Euroweenie fears the Anglo.

>The only whites stupid enough to buy into communist crap are continentals.
May I remind you that the EU is literally the most capitalist entity currently in existence, and that every "continental" communist party is anti-EU specifically for that reason?

You should stop thinking in memes laddo

Then why does it attract so many literal communists like Barroso and Schultz?

Protectionism and red tape isn't capitalism. Yet again a continental twat completely misunderstands what freedom actually is.

So when are you touching yourself?

By necessity of having next to no funds, all they can do is regulate trade. Make the EU federal and it all goes to shit.

>Freedom lies in a pseudo-federalist union controlled by investment banks and a large central bank

No thanks Hans. We'll sort our own country out, for better or worse.

Who opens what borders is still decided by the member countries, not by the EU.
Reference: Poland, Hungary.

.... and on the plus side, the EU
+ brought us cheap international roaming with mobile phones
+ no waiting at inner-EU borders
+ no tariffs on EU products
+ no money exchange fees for most countries

Yes, goy, cheaper phone bills are totally worth genociding your country for

I'm my home town we support the EU 100% and praise Germans for being strong and saving so many refugees I think America and UK could take a leaf out of Germany book

>mfw UKfags already forgot they were also behind the creation of israel
Yeah, the Irgun and Stern Gang were friends and allies of the UK! Totally didn't murder British police or anything!
GET FUCKED YOU STUPID FUCKING KRAUT

all of these could have been achieved with treaties. no need to give power away to big brother

and the EU wants to give Germany nord stream, what a time to be alive after the south stream got shat on by Germs

That's totally worth the ongoing exposure to the Mediterranean debt crisis.

the future is fucked regardless, at this point i just want those most responsible to suffer, the english

Oh no, an angry Russian rape baby. How will we recover?

Get fucked you commie continental trash.

>You're literally ruled by unelected globalist bankers

Beats being ruled by British bankers t b h s m h f a m

Drop in the pond compared to Ukraine and all the African aid to supposedly stem the flow of """climate""" refugees. Who of course will just keep coming any way, the massive aid is just another way to make us weaker.

Degenerate fuck. Kill yourself

It's not the money, but the implication of defaulting on that debt.

The only realy way for the PIGS to get their debt under control is to devalue their currency and drop interest rates. The only way for that to happen is leave the single currency, which the EC won't allow.

Instead they'll just keep hammering those countries with sanctions and austerity until they get desparate enough to leve the union and default.