Whats the difference between fascism and communism ?

Whats the difference between fascism and communism ?

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Not much.

Fascism is transcendent and beyond baby brain ideologies.

Communism is a wealth based ideology rooted in materialism

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Corporatism

One has killed 100's of millions of people and the other is reported to have killed 6 million.

Both are collectivist, socialist ideologies.

Communism wants to spread to whole world (immediatly, or country by country - trotskyism vs stalinism). National socialism spreads only to one country ethnic group.

Under communism all property is state owned. National socialism allows private property, but only if it serves good of state/race.

Thats all i can think of now.

rly makes one think

Communism takes away rights through force, fascism ensures them.

Communism is fascism. You can be fascist without being communist but to be communist you invariably are required to be fascist first.

Bodycount

kek

Larp harder toothpaste, fascism only ensures the rights of the governing over the state.

>hurr fascist is just utilising force — G'DURRR
'no'

Fascism =/= Authoritarianism

>Whats the difference between fascism and communism ?
the paycheck.

Zero difference. when everyone you disagree with is a nazi commi

Germany was National Socialist, not Fascist, that was Italy

>Under communism all property is state-owned. National Socialism allows private property, but only if it serves good of state/race

To be honest, I do not see a difference here. In communism all property is directly owned by the state. NatSoc seems to be the same, but with the illusion of private ownership. I imagine, with your definition, if the property didn't serve the good of the state/race, the government would either not let it be born or shut it down. Since all property is esesentially directed by the state, (via the state determining its usefulness and shutting it down if not useful) the state thereby de facto oversees all property.

As I said, I don't see much of a difference. However, please, correct me if my assumption about how private property works in NatSoc nations is wrong.

One is a white movement that worked to preserve whites at the expenses of Jews
The other is a Jewish movement that worked to preserve Jews at the expense of whites
One has property rights
The other did not
One embraced tradition and loved it's people
The other was hell bent on causing rifts between people and tried to kill traditions
One was meritocratic
The other was Communism
One was forward looking
The other was Communism

So pretty much the Jew/Gentile divide

>this thread

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there is a difference

Lets say you are owner of a factory

>NatSoc
national socialism allows you to be an owner , enrich you and your family from production, climb social and wealth ladder in society and pretty much enyoy all benefits connected to it AL LONG AS your production in in iterest of a state (i. e. you are producing what state tells you to produce, at speed you are told, you are told to sell your good to state only or only to people allowed by state etc.)

>Commies
Your Factory has been siezed and is runned by "all people", for your benefit and for the benefit of the people. You are no longer an owner, you are just an ordinary worker like everybody else. Not such a big difference for state (its under control same as with NatSoc), but a huge difference for an individual

conclusion:
Communism is about acumulation of all assets and riches in society, directive contorl and usage of them and redistribution of wealth to people who are all equal (all are poor af just waiting to get something)
NatSoc is about you maintaining your economical/social status with all benefits (and liabilities) while state dictates you what to do, which means your buisness is weaker and strangeled by national interests, you are poorer than you would have been in free-market society, but you are still fine when compared to communism

not true
you can fight the banking system too, by using fiat only when necessary

Ah, that cleared it up very well. Well written.

Thanks.

>National Socialism
>Fascism
It's really just a Fascist inspired system. Hitler would've done very well in any sort of communist movement at the time.

fascism is a political ideology, communism is an economic ideology.

>Muh horseshoe
False dichotomy

About tree fiddy.

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It should also be pointed out that the people will have some role in the survival of your business, as a common statement found in modern national socialist platforms is that the people will have the right to chase out businesses that offend or harm the community, like porn shops, shitty department stores, loud nightclubs, etc.

>inb4 a lolbertarian confuses not wanting degenerate shit that lowers property values with being triggered

That image is tinfoil hat bullshit.

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You have social democratic MPs talking about how Mao was a good leader and a lot of the bernouts radicalized on reddit (lmao) and became gommies. There's open Marxist-Leninists that advance their platform in Die Linke, and overall there's a lot of communist elements in left-wing parties, open communists.

Liberalism is a gateway to social democracy, which is a gateway to socialism.

I call him a socialist/communist

trade communism and national socialism and the image is about right.

Sup Forumstards forget that nazi regime was one of the most brutally repressive regimes in the history

I highlighted the difference

Depends on the Fascist state you compare to communism.

aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-communism/

Fascism is what Communism promises.

And communism isnt? Fuck, what kind of fag are you.

you also forget that the communists took the guns from the people while hitler loosened the rules for guns

The second last poster sums it up, really. Fascism is about being unrestricted in your own nation, where communism is about being controlled by the state.

The bottom picture also shows what modern social justice looks like, where all workers are united under the state. There is no individuality. Where as the fascism poster is specific to being only German. It's not "inclusive", it's about national identity.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism." -Gregor Strasser. This quote makes it pretty clear I think.

>t t they fought the jews
fuck off
t. not commie

It always amazes me that stormfags understand absolutely nothing about fascist and national socialist ideology.
The pillar of fascist ideology was corporatism ruled by a central government that wielded both the final word on how the economy was run and the ability to deploy force against dissent.

Nazi and communist economics were virtually the same, in the sense that the government told you what job you were allowed to do, how you were going to do it and backed it up with a man holding a gun. The only difference is that they Were less open about party cronies wielding the power and more open about party cronies getting all the wealth and privileges.

Communism is a stateless, money-less and hierarchy-less society, so by definition it isn't repressive, since the tools for repression do not exist

And every action against the regime was punished harshly, sometimes even with death.

>communism has never been tried!

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>I want to be ruled
>not a baby brain ideology
lol k

The name youtu.be/XqS2g5WlMgM

This.

Socialism, the intermediate step between capitalism and communism, has only been successfully implemented in dictatorial, authoritarian regimes. Any attempts at a libertarian (in the traditional, FALN-style meaning) society has collapsed due to a lack of military power and discipline. Some people will call this unfair and proof of capitalism ganging up on the little guy, but I feel as if it's more endemic of the fact that communists make poor statesmen and politicians.

The left were trying to steal memes even back then.

By definition, yes, communism has never been successfully implemented.

But you can keep making your snarky posts if it makes you happy.

t. historical illiterate

Fascism works.

Do you have any proof that communism has killed that many people?

The death tolls were so high, even the Jews couldn't cover it up

My frontal lobes have been stimulated.

Lucky trips of truth

They're both pure tyranny but nazism is national socialism and communism is globalist socialism.

This seems like an unbiased opinion.

The difference is, they are two sides of the same dialectic designed by the Jews to give the Enlightenment some credibility.

Both sides were anti-semitic but both sides were ranked and funded with Jews, Freemasons, and the like.

The real question is why both communists and nationalists march like autistic retards.

a-traditional ideologies based on the dreck a bunch of Jews wrote are truly the most pathetic things anyone on this board pretends to defend

Nothing really, after WW2 the Commies and Socialists didn't want to be associated with the German National Socialist Worker's Party (NAZI), so they started claiming they were "fascists" and right wing instead of left wing. Thus separating themselves from a socialist failure.

Fascism has never been traditional. It sook to overthrow the fundamentals of European tradition, that are:
>monarchy
>feudalism
>christianity
and build a new society in their place

Stop LARPing dude

I would say, Nazi marching, as gay as it looks, actually strecthes the hamstrings out a lot more and activates the glutes and hamstrings to build muscle and range much more effectively.

Degeneracy

Communism: A classless, moneyless, Stateless society

Fascism: A authoritarian, nationalist and hiererarchical society ruled by a single leader.

That being said, being both totalitarian ideologies, Marxism-Leninism and fascism do share alot of similarities in practice despite coming from radically opposite ideological backgrounds.

Fascism treats those who don't belong to the "in-group" as if they weren't human beings.

Communism treats everyone as if they weren't human beings.

The Nazis were third positionists, using left-wing economic doctrine in the context of a right-wing social doctrine of social conservatism. Well... that is until Hitler took over and rendered the party socialist only in name with waves of privatizations and wage cuts.

t. Jew

>Communism: A classless, moneyless, Stateless society

Perhaps in "theory", but in reality communism has all the attributes you have listed under fascism, except for nationalism

Communist states were refering to themselves are socialist states, aiming to create a communist society as their end goal. That's why I said they were similar in practice despite coming from opposite ideological backgrounds because of the authoritarianism of Marxism-Leninism and fascism.

It would be a mistake to claim that all forms of communism are authoritarian. Libertarian forms of Marxism include council communism, Marxism-Luxembourgism and Marxism-DeLeonism. Anarcho-communism is the most libertarian of all communist ideologies as it doesn't advocate for a transitional socialist state like Marxists do. As such, anarcho-communism is a strain of anarchism, not Marxism.

One is practiced by literally every white person in America, the other has never been truly tried.

>It would be a mistake to claim that all forms of communism are authoritarian. Libertarian forms of Marxism include council communism, Marxism-Luxembourgism and Marxism-DeLeonism. Anarcho-communism is the most libertarian of all communist ideologies as it doesn't advocate for a transitional socialist state like Marxists do. As such, anarcho-communism is a strain of anarchism, not Marxism.

In other words: fairytales and mental masturbation

They are both authoritarian systems for statist cucks who fetishize a strong father figure that will guide them towards utopia amd vindicate their egoic need for a "purpose".

They are both useful systems for (((them))) to convince or force people to give up essential liberties for safety, security, and "the good of the state".

They both get bullets to the head when time comes.

Not much, fascism is a left wing thing and hitler was a socialist.

Communism seeks to bring about global communion.
Fascism seeks to put the state above all else. Both seek these ends by eliminating individual freedom. To be perfectly honest both ideas are vile and need to crushed out.

t. reddit

>Nazi and communist economics were virtually the same
Yeah, competitive enterprises with private property (while the state could be in control if needed) vs. the state rules all and the others don't have a say.

>in the sense that the government told you what job you were allowed to do, how you were going to do it and backed it up with a man holding a gun.

That literally did not happen in Nazi Germany. What kind of drugs are you on? You could freely chose what you want to do. Even women going into the workforce was possible but frowned upon. The only place were people might be put to work at gunpoint were concentration camps. Especially making it possible that a poor farmer could be capable and achieve great ranks in the military, destroying the "privilege by blood" of the prussian aristocrats, is what led to them forming the resistance movement within the military.

Hitler took away aristocrat gibs me dats by promoting other to work hard to reach the top.

(((they))) were holocausted by both the systems.

Typical non argument from the low iq section

>Yeah, competitive enterprises with private property (while the state could be in control if needed) vs. the state rules all and the others don't have a say.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artel
>You could freely chose what you want to do. Even women going into the workforce was possible but frowned upon. The only place were people might be put to work at gunpoint were concentration camps. Especially making it possible that a poor farmer could be capable and achieve great ranks in the military, destroying the "privilege by blood" of the prussian aristocrats, is what led to them forming the resistance movement within the military.
Did you just explain one the most noticable differences between Soviet Union and Russian Empire?
So, what's the difference betwen those systems?

we are talking about fascism/natsoc vs communism. maybe you read "russian" when I wrote "prussian"? Wtf are you on about?

(((capitalism)))

>maybe you read "russian" when I wrote "prussian"?
Exactly. Replace "Prussian" with "Russian" and your second argument can be applied to the Soviet Union as well. As for the first one, I've already provided the link.