Why do Americans hate socialism?

Why do Americans hate socialism?

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in my country there is problem

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We like it in terms of helping those who are in poverty and our elderly.

Other then that, keep your commielite shit out this great capitalistic country.

Because it doesn't fucking work. Every "socialist" country you eurocucks spout out as being successful hasn't been socialist for long, and had a freer market in the past. Or you are flat out lying and such countries are the most economically free. I.E. Scandinavia

>captcha: com(m)une lose

But why are you against universal health care, for example?

Americans hate socialism because we don't want faggoty ideologies enforced on us by cucks and dweebs too lazy to get jobs. Now fuck off.

Here in Europe, we have a free market of ideas. We have both more socialist and more capitalist parties, who work together to find solutions to the problems our societies face.
Yet in America, beeing called a socialist is almost as bad as beeing called a nazi

They became the richest country in the world with the richest citizens in history SPECIFICALLY because they avoided the shitstorm of socialism.

They like prosperity you dumb western european bitch.

>why do americans hate the government stealing their income and giving it to non-working fat violent niggers and spics?

Because then healthcare for lazy welfare leeches comes outta my taxes

Because they like private property. And money. Those weird people.

>Yet in America, beeing called a socialist is almost as bad as beeing called a nazi
Mainly because it doesn't-fucking-work. No one cares about a "free market of ideas", we want what works. God, no wonder you hippies are being raped by Ahmed.

Because Americans aren't fascists?

They are your fellow Americans. Would you really want to see them die, only because they don't make enough money?
Especially, since as an American, you could be fired any time, for any reason, and be in exactly the same situation

Because we were inoculated against it at an early age when Jamestown had a form of proto-socialism that failed and caused a famine there.

No one is more anti-socialist than a former socialist.

Because it makes everybody poor and Americans like to be rich.

Universal healthcare is retarded because healthcare is a private good. Since it's a private good a market process is better at allocating scarce healthcare resources than any centralized agent.

Literally every problem in the US healthcare market today is fundamentally caused by government intervention. Except for fat people. That's caused by corn.

Europe blows donkey dick and is fresh out of ideas, that's why they keep fining US tech companies for being successful.

>They are your fellow Americans.
No they aren't, they're Mexican, Honduran, El Salvadorian, Guatamalan, etc. But they are not American.

Because of a 50 year propaganda effort by the American government.

because the elite rule and they make sure people hate what could make them no rule anymore.

they can't stand the idea of someone they think of as inferior to them proving them wrong

lets keep the memes out of the discussion, please

why not copy systems that worked for decades, like germany or the scandinavian countries?

Would you also abandon medicare?

I thought America was a country of immigrants?

>why not copy countries that are committing cultural suicide?
hmmmmmmm

>I thought America was a country of immigrants?
fuck off with your history revision, kike

sorry, but i dont see how the current refugee crisis is related to the discussion about socialism.
not to mention that america is much more culturally and ethnically diversed compared to european countries

so everybody not related to the original settlers should fuck off?

>No one is more anti-socialist than a former socialist.
Correct.

Gotta keep on winning.
Trump knows the secret sauce that made America great.

if socialism fails their system doesn't look like such a miserable failure

>why do faggots love socialism
ftfy

>"the founders settled america"

yeah let's just conveniently ignore all the people who were already there

>"america was a christian nation"

look up the treaty of tripoli you dingus

>sorry, but i dont see how the current refugee crisis is related to the discussion about socialism.
How obviously dumb are you

The refugees are here BECAUSE of socialism and because you give them free stuff, and they don't integrate because of it.

>sorry, but i dont see how the current refugee crisis is related to the discussion about socialism.
hmm...
>offer socialist gibs to any nigger that comes to your country
>niggers swarm your country

>so everybody not related to the original settlers should fuck off?
nice strawman

>commune lose

Except the commune wins. That's why anarchism doesn't exist, because states, collectives are stronger and the natural winners of competition. Ancaps are leftists who want to undo the natural order.

>ignore all the people who were already there
the natives did not settle america. they settled their tribal lands which were annexed into america

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and the numbers for communism continue to go up

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only citizens are entitled to free gibs
and if i am not wrong, america has a problem with illegal immigrants aswell

Socialism entails economic centralization, which is impossible without political centralization, which is impossible without repression.

>Ancaps are leftists who want to undo the natural order.
>defends collectivism
>believes collectivism is "natural order"
Wew

Because we don't implicitly trust the state to take care of us like helpless sheep.

We're just not as docile as you Euros.

>muh venezuela

not an argument

The entire Anglosphere hates you retarded cunts

Yes it is.

Humans dominate earth because of our ability to collectivise and cooperate. And yes, the collective will always trump atomised self-serving individuals.

>undo the natural order.
Ahmed, if you took a fellow hunter gatherer's stuff in the stone age you would get stabbed by his entire village.

>I thought America was a country of immigrants?

(((they))) say the same bullshit about European countries as well. The United States of America was founded by settlers from Europe (the Natives had no coherent political entity to unite them), and the Founders were very clear about the need to keep the country as white as possible, which is why the vast majority of later immigrants were European unti 1965.

They never had a really good socialist president.

Well, America has a federal government, so it has a certain degree of centralization by nature

this is what i never understood.
You don't trust your elected representatives, but you somehow believe that capitalists who only look out for their profits wont fuck you over?

Because the stuff belonged to the collective of the tribe, not the hunter gatherer, as did the food he collected.

You played yourself

illegal beaners get gigantic amounts of gibs here

Because every nation which adopted socialism brought nothing but a collapsing economy.
Yugoslavia is probably the best argument that socialism "works" and it only worked as much as it did just because of massive loans from other capitalist countries.
And when it collapsed a part of the debt went to us and to this day we still haven't been able to repay it.
And Slovenia pretty much suffered the least. Other former Yugoslavia's states like Bosnia and Herzegovina are like a third world hell hole, Tito fucked them in the ass without any lube with that debt.
Basically, Marxism is and always will be cancer and Carl Marx was a faggot.

no centralization in the us?
how could they do this?

>why not copy systems that worked for decades,

You mean the ones whose welfare states were bankrolled by vigorous private-sector activity? The fact that Germany and the Scandinavian countries have traditionally been inhabited by Germanic peoples is what they have in common and which accounts for their success, not socialism.

You want to me to buy you a plane ticket Commie?

There you can stay proudly behind that banner and try to make your Communism work.

That doesn't mean communism or socialism is a system, retard. Naturalistic fallacy at it's peak.

Americans think Socialism is bad because they think capitalism is great and they are the best. American Patriotism is nothing more than Nationalism wrapped in Democratic clothing. Being American is not anything besides being an European on a different continent. I don't blame them tho. They are the British Empire 2.0, just not a monarchy. You know the saying, every empire falls somehow *coughcough* debt to China *coughcoughcough*

No, if any members of the tribe tried to take his things that one member would get stabbed.

*good system

>no centralization in the us?

When did I say there was no centralization in the US? That country has been moving leftwards towards total State control of the economy and of individual lives for decades, at least since FDR. The notion that America is a purely free-market society only exists in the imaginations of left-wingers.

You are confusing society which government. Government eats society.

I'm scared of aeroplanes, I'll take a helicopter instead

and by white, they only meant anglo-saxons.
other europeans, even germans, were non-white to them

Commies aint human.

Not an argument

>only citizens are entitled to free gibs

Not true. There are programs at the federal and state level that will hand out gibs to non-citizens. This doesn't matter though because if you have a family in America as a non-citizen, your new family will no doubt be welfare queens for the rest of their existence.

This is how the Democrats stay in power.

>Well, America has a federal government, so it has a certain degree of centralization by nature

It's the size of that degree which is at issue. I am not an anarchist, so I'm not suggesting that the existence of government itself is invalid, only that it needs to be kept at an absolute minimum. Every time a State expands beyond its original prerogatives it becomes cancerous and kills its host, society.

It seems to me you are implying that Germans and Scandinavians are genetically superior to others.
That would be a bit racist

>so everybody not related to the original settlers should fuck off?

Sounds good to me. If you don't have ancestors who fought in the Revolution, catch the first boat out of here.

Why do people ask the most retarded questions? One word. venizuallia is the poster child. Bernie loves it and you should study how great it is. No get off the basement barcolounger and get a fkn job loser. Sick of paying for orher peoples shit!

>only citizens are entitled to free gibs
topcuck

Capitalists have competition to stop their exploitation or you can just not buy from them

Government officials have............? They don't compete and can make you do their things.

because marxist "socialism" is fucking bad

Because communism is a retarded system that has failed every time it's been tried.

Capitalism works, the more of it the better.

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>venizuallia is the poster child

Because they don't understand it.
They think that socialism = communism.
For fuck sake, they don't even understand communism. And no burgers, I am not a commie.

This comment is utterly incoherent. You evidently don't like Americans and you perceive them to be less socialist by nature than Europeans, so you imagine that socialism must be a superior system despite its evident drawbacks which others have explained to you patiently. Anti-Americanism is the socialism of fools, and so is socialism.

Would you be ok with socialism for citizens only?

but would the american state really need to expand that much to provide universal health-care, for example? Canadian state does that already

>You don't trust your elected representatives, but you somehow believe that capitalists who only look out for their profits wont fuck you over?

Of course they will; but I have an option about whether I buy their products or not. On the other hand if I don't pay my taxes I go to jail.

The day that Ford can send police officers to arrest me for not buying a new F150 is the day I'll consider corporations more dangerous than the state.

And that problem is the jew

Socialism is bad for the same reason communism is bad. It's a violation of property and contract rights.

>It seems to me you are implying that Germans and Scandinavians are genetically superior to others.

I'm not German, but it's obvious to any honest observer that the Germanic peoples (whatever their faults might be) are capable of a degree of organization and efficiency unsurpassed in the other peoples of Europe, let alone in the world. That does not mean I consider them "superior" overall, because I've lived in Germany and have seen the drawbacks of their way of life as well.

They take everybody money,

>Why do Americans hate socialism?


this has been explained about 4353456 Gorrillian IN DETAIL times already,

u know, those times, when u chose to not listen....

so get the fuck of u subhuman scum !

>Here in Europe, we have a free market of ideas.

POST YOUR SNAKE MEMES

Property rights are a social construct

>Why do Americans hate socialism?
because it sucks, like your mom.

>Here in Europe, we have a free market of ideas
then where is your freedom of speech?

thats voulentary work by a private citizen

government officials have democratic elections, they are competing with other parties and will be voted out of office if they act against the will of the people

And they never give it back

Spanish mason confirmed

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Socialism is merely Communism in slow motion. At all times the State is either increasing in its overall power over the economy or it is decreasing; and in the former case, it is inexorably heading towards Communism. Hence "Fabian Socialism", based on what the Communist Bela Kun called "salami tactics" to institute left-wing totalitarianism without alarming the public all at once.

what if ford sells his privatly hired goons to break your legs because you joined an union?
who is gonna protect you then?

So what? You still can't violate it.

Because "socialism" in its practically implemented form is an authoritarian, violent and suicidal ideology of eradication. When you "remove barriers" between yourself and populations where 25%+ of men have committed rape, you kill yourself.