Does Polish youth (17-21) look up to the current state of their government or despise it? I've heard some strange things about PiS but I'm still not sure where I stand with them, the overt religiousness is fine but shouldn't be imposed upon those who wish to be astray from it.
Why do Poles hate Poles living abroad (UK, America, Germany), they're called traitors and 'No longer Polish', why is this? Where's this hate coming from ?
I know a few self hating Poles, why are they like this, what has their country done to them? Poland is so full of history and achievement, the Polish realm has been though shit and piss yet they're still standing, how can someone self-hate?
Why is Poland still a rigorously conservative country when there's so many dissidents and haters. Who's voting the conservatives in election after election? Old people?
Please help me understand your countries consciousness, Poland
The youth is more radicalized than all past generations, they're basically ready to behead all Muslims.
Aiden Bailey
Sorry but you're an American, was hoping some actual Poles would reply but it's a slow day
Jonathan Thompson
I am a bit older but I often deal with young adults. Yes, they are right wing, they support the government because they perceive it as lesser evil. This reaction is mainly caused by the rapefugee crisis and the totalitarian aspirations of the EU. PiS is trying to create soft-authoritarianism based on catholic and patriotic values and most people are okay with that, this includes the oldies.
>Why do Poles hate Poles living abroad We don't hate them on principle but many of them are bydło
>self hating Poles Indocrinated by the media
>Who's voting the conservatives in election after election? Old people? Currently it's am alliance between the old people and the youth. The middle-aged generation is the one that's cucked.
Grayson Rivera
>Does Polish youth (17-21) look up to the current state of their government or despise it? They don't like pis or moderate left, they really like the Kukiz (moderate right meme party that was founded by rock singer) and cucked jewish slighlity leftist nowoczesna. Pis is sadly corrupted piss of shit, they have some good polices especially anti ue and anti immigration / lgbt, but coruption and nepotism is really strong, there is list of 1000 pis people by puls biznesu and a lot of misiewicz like
>Why do Poles hate Poles living abroad (UK Most don't, but Poles on emigration are often bydło that can't connect to Poles or help them.
>I know a few self hating Poles, why are they like this, what has their country done to them? PRL, communist, poor social standard in the 90s, 00s, >how can someone self-hate? Sadly people forget even in Poland about culture or history, the new god of consumption and american culture has showed that ancestor don't matter. Almost everyone watches usa movies/tv shows and live that way.
Cooper White
Thanks for the response, the demographics are really interesting.
>Indocrinated by the media Does more Left leaning Polish media publish anti-establishment article's about the system?
Henry Turner
>Does Polish youth (17-21) look up to the current state of their government or despise it? I've heard some strange things about PiS but I'm still not sure where I stand with them, the overt religiousness is fine but shouldn't be imposed upon those who wish to be astray from it. >Why is Poland still a rigorously conservative country when there's so many dissidents and haters. Who's voting the conservatives in election after election? Old people?
The marxists are bacisally non-existant outside of academia safe-spaces. The totalitarian methods of marxism are outlawed by constitution so the lefties put a lot of effort to not be perceived as actual marxists. That being said, there are socdems but they're not very relevant. The remaining lefties are not really ambitious enough to try to institute leftist, they basically just defend liberalism to stop the march of the right wing and they hope to survive the coming storm. Clinton-tier liberalism is prelevant, though.
Ryan Anderson
>Sadly people forget even in Poland about culture or history, the new god of consumption and american culture has showed that ancestor don't matter. Almost everyone watches usa movies/tv shows and live that way.
That's kind of sad, but semi unavoidable because of Americanism and Globalization.
PiS sound like a riot, I do wonder what will happen when the youth grows up through.
Also what does bydło mean in relation to emigration?
That's interesting, kind of reminds me of the Liberal Western reactions to Right leaning political thinking.
Carson Bennett
Poland is now where Germany was 1968. It's a developing country.
Joshua Young
>PiS sound like a riot It's not a riot, Kukiz'15 is a riot party. PiS has been present for ages now and they have fairly stable base of voters.
>Also what does bydło mean in relation to emigration? Trash people, jobless folks, petty criminals and so on much like your chavs or russian gopniks.
Owen Morales
Funny cause the Polish who i know who've come to England work harder than the natives. I very rarely see a Polish person without a job or a store to sell goods.
Levi Morris
> Does Polish youth (17-21) look up to the current state of their government or despise it?
They love it ATM. Will change in few months when the gov't will start putting it in their ass without lube. :P
> Why do Poles hate Poles living abroad
If they decided to escape and leave us in this shit, they can fuck off.
> I know a few self hating Poles, why are they like this, what has their country done to them?
Internalized anti-Polish ((propaganda)).
> Who's voting the conservatives in election after election?
Regular people who believe they are being fucked over by ((them)) and don't realize that the conservative party is led by one of ((them)) also.
Charles Mitchell
Polish future is definitely right wing and capitalistic, mostly thanks to Korwin-Mikke and his gigantic work. Even if people are growing out of him, a lot of his red pills stay in their heads.
Present is defined by older generation. We cannot easily remove our socialism, because coming out of communism, we also brought with us a lot of dependent people.
Because of low birthrates our social system is on the verge of collapse - keeping current pensions up requires enormous taxation of work. Nobody have any idea how to solve this.
Leo Sullivan
>Nobody have any idea how to solve this. Immigration.
Joshua Harris
Why are you calling them bydło? Nobody uses this word anymore and it sounds totally different in Russian so who even made it popular on Sup Forums? Ukrainians?
Justin Walker
Honestly, this is unfortunate possible door for enabling immigration. That's why it's important for us to have anti-immigration government at all times, so it will do anything to avoid it, or will look into immigration from ethnically similar countries at worst.
Bentley Foster
What is becikowe and 500+
Josiah Long
Pic related are the results of our recent election by age group.
>Why do Poles hate Poles living abroad (UK, America, Germany), they're called traitors and 'No longer Polish', why is this? Where's this hate coming from ?
Pole here living abroad. Poles hate each other and are always envious of others. There was huge unemployment in Poland and 2.5 mln people went abroad. Many people in Poland hate those who emigrated because they now have well paid jobs. Supposedly situation in Poland improved, but I have my doubts, nepotism is king in Poland, so I doubt you can get a good job without connections.
Angel Ward
They should just fuck off from here home
Sebastian Turner
>If they decided to escape and leave us in this shit, they can fuck off.
Because dying from hunger on the street would be a better option ?
Jaxson Wilson
Without immigration Poland is simply going to be empty by 2039.
Carter Young
> Nobody have any idea how to solve this.
That's incorrect. The solution was actually introduced by the last government. Essentially it involved robbing baby boomers of two years of retirement.
Problem is, the present government has decided to buy the votes of baby boomers with your money and reversed the reform.
Anthony Price
Becikowe is money handed out for birth of a child. 500+ is basically a monthly 500 PLN pension for every child. These were our attempts at fixing birth rates.
Lucas Bailey
>Without immigration Poland is simply going to be empty by 2039. Nope, worse case scenario it will have 32 mln people. Due to automation it won't be as catastrophic as some people think.
Nolan Barnes
or maybe tell ppl to start fucking and make more qt polish babies
Ryder Martin
Baby gibs to increase fertility.
Lucas White
>or maybe tell ppl to start fucking and make more qt polish babies Contrary to what Sup Forums believes Slavic women are terribly bitchy and abusive.
Landon Anderson
You forget work emigration. At some point everyone left. How is Poland going to afford automation? That is something Japan can do, but Poland?
Evan Gray
> Because dying from hunger on the street would be a better option ?
That does not happen in Poland. I'm almost 40 years old ATM, never heard of someone dying of hunger on the street. When someone dies on the street, it usually involves some combination of cold weather, alcohol and knife.
Lucas Collins
>Poland is now where Germany was 1968. >It's a developing country.
Yeah, but without the suicidal guilt. I wish you krauten would just hurry it up!
Michael Green
I don't think it will be as neat and perfect and someone has to work for future pensions. We need those workers from the east. The change is already noticeable. I have some Ukrainians and Belarusians at work and not long ago I asked a guy on the street something and he turned out to be Russian (I think) worker.
Ryan Howard
>That does not happen in Poland. I'm almost 40 years old ATM, never heard of someone dying of hunger on the street. When someone dies on the street, it usually involves some combination of cold weather, alcohol and knife.
I am 38 and emigrated 6 years ago. Before that I was unemployed for 4 years in Poland and I wasn't able to get ANY job. I applied EVERYWHERE, I phoned, I handed out my CV personally. In 4 years I have NEVER received a callback. Went to UK, BAM, in a week I got 5 interviews and a job as clerk in an office.
I am not enthusiastic about living in UK, but if I would stay in Poland, I would be dying from hunger on a street. And I have two uni degrees plus language certificates.
James Rogers
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Polish birthrates have already increased thanks to more generous gibs for the natives. Furthermore, Poland has already taken in Ukrainians. Non-white immigration is a no, no in Poland. And you yourself know third-worlders are not paying for your pensions. What percentage of even your legacy Turks are on the gibs?
Landon Lewis
How did eastern Europe escape the cucking the west got? Is it because all the marxist Jews were cleaned out?
Elijah Jones
Birth rates don't help Poland's dire economic situation. Poland needs high qualified immigration. However Poland is not an attractive destination for work migration and the xenophobic government/population doesn't help the situation. Therefore Poland is doomed to turn into a failed state.
Jordan Rivera
Hopefully the Germans won't sabotage the incoming Intermarium Initiative. It will take decades but the entire central-eastern belt will be a lot better for it. Trump seems to like the idea. It will probably come sooner than the new silk road. Poland is very interesting right now because I remember the late 90s when it was shitty and ugly and now it's getting prettier and prettier. Or at least modern By the time I left my uni the entire mini-city was built near it. And they're still buildings some new buildings around it.
Aaron Robinson
>Contrary to what Sup Forums believes Slavic women are terribly bitchy and abusive.
Only for beta Slavic men. I am married to one and have dated others. You have to be alpha with them and then they find their natural place. Otherwise they indeed do default to becoming nags.
Julian Foster
Iron curtain isolated us so that cultural revolution didn't reach us. Basically behind the iron curtain the Old World survived, and it is looking at its future version with disgust, so now it is trying to avoid this path.
Ayden Cox
Pretty much every woman ever are like this other than a rubbish sack head
Joshua Jenkins
>Birth rates don't help Poland's dire economic situation. Poland needs high qualified immigration. >However Poland is not an attractive destination for work migration and the xenophobic government/population doesn't help the situation. >Therefore Poland is doomed to turn into a failed state.
You don't know what you're talking about obviously. The Polish economy pretty much avoided the recession and continues to grow--currently at 4%. Furthermore, the Poland suffers from a surplus of educated people who are underemployed you krautischer. How about you worry about your degenerate failing state?!
Adam Lopez
Nah, It will be fine. We'll just take white refugees from Germany.
Isaac Rodriguez
Poland survives on EU gibs with a declining population, while still suffering mass unemployment. This is not sustainable. >educated people The meaning of that is relative.
Jace Ortiz
>Pretty much every woman ever are like this other than a rubbish sack head
Not necessarily. Good luck putting American chicks in their natural place, demarcating explicit roles. Slavic women are tacitly asking for you to take over, American cunts are internally experimenting with some imaginary gender role scenario.
Julian Smith
Polish obviously live in a shit hole. My father shares a electrical circuit with his Polish neighbours and during the winter they put everything on and the circuit breaks. Then it's turned back on and the circuit breaks after 5 minutes. My father has explained to them that it's because they run all sorts of heaters all at once on the same fuse. But they never learn. All they do is drink... Luckily they are not criminals like most polish.
Adam Cooper
This is the vision I have for the future of Europe. It gives me hope. Whites fleeing the new Pakistan/sub saharan shit hole and heading east
Liam Clark
2011 emigration? Interesting. 2011 was roughly the timeframe when multinational corps moved to Krakow en masse and started stealing engineers from my employer.
Isaiah James
>We'll just take white refugees from Germany. Nobody in his right mind will flee to a country, were his ancestors were expelled and killed routinely.
Thomas Lopez
Pretty much this But it also should be noted that the Internet reached us shortly after the fall of the communism so there was little time for the western leftist media to monopolize the industry. But they held a monopoly on information for a couple of years after 1989 which is why the middle-aged generation is so retarded.
Blake Perez
What do investment banks pay in Warsaw? I'm a banker and debating about going back to NYC or perhaps Warsaw
Gavin Phillips
>Whites fleeing the new Pakistan/sub saharan shit hole and heading east I'm sorry, Australia, but it shows that you have no clue about Europe. White Europeans might flee to Asia including Japan as last resort, but I can assure you, they will never go into the death trap which is East Europe.
Hunter Myers
I am not an engineer
Dylan Taylor
>xenophobic
hmm, i like that word
also, gibs is a german meme to hide trade tariffs that we gave up for the EU funding. it would be 1:1 right now so pls fuck off
Jaxon Taylor
>Poland survives on EU gibs with a declining population, while still suffering mass unemployment. >This is not sustainable.e >>educated people >The meaning of that is relative.
The whole of Europe only survives on American defense gibs. I really despise you German parasites. To think that you once considered yourselves some sort of master race. I hope Britain and even France are saved from Islamicization. But German? I hope you scum are dragged so far down into your own degeneracy that your women become the sex slaves of the entire Muslim word.
Josiah Williams
I believe that the lack of moderate beheaders will be a major selling point. Just give it a few years.
Fun fact: there is a body of Polish sci-fi literature from early 1990s which exactly predicts the current ethnic clusterfuck in Germany.
Luke Lee
>White Europeans might flee to Asia including Japan as last resort, but I can assure you, they will never go into the death trap which is East Europe.
Poland has lower homicide rate than both UK and France. There are 800 injured victims of knife crime per 2 months in London. Do you know how many are per year in WHOLE Poland ? 700. That's per year.
Also pic attached
Jordan Wright
>What do investment banks pay in Warsaw? I'm a banker and debating about going back to NYC or perhaps Warsaw
Finance pays shit in Poland. I'm a quant analyst and have looked into the same thing.
Christopher Cox
>Poland has lower homicide rate than both UK and France. Of course, because it is 99 % Polish. And the reason for this is because if the number goes below 97 %, they come at night and genocide you.
Kevin Thomas
wow they are disgrace! Living in Norway and afraid of cold.
Jason Russell
'failed state' because we say gtfo to muslims come on
Connor Walker
Never, we can take take from netherlands, belgium, but never trust germans
Connor Hughes
Jesus, just stay away from franca everyone!
Adam Walker
>I believe that the lack of moderate beheaders will be a major selling point. My whole family lives here now, because of Polish "moderate behaders". You seriously want Whites make believe, it won't happen again?
Thomas Sanchez
>Fun fact: there is a body of Polish sci-fi literature from early 1990s which exactly predicts the current ethnic clusterfuck in Germany. co? nie znam
Isaiah Ortiz
The way to make people breed is to indoctrinate them. Germany is the living example so shove the muslims up your ass. Muslims breed because they are indoctrinated, they believe that by breeding, they will peacefully conquer europe.
Germans used to breed like rabbits because Hitler told them a bunch of bullshit about race.
Today, non-doctrinized countries have laughably low birth rates but the likes of China don't have that problem.
like how bad? In NYC I can get 150K base plus 15% PNL
Leo Parker
I know what they are, I was pointing out that particular steps were taken under PiS governments to try and increase birthrates, so someone is doing something about it, instead of importing foreign workforce
Jacob Rivera
>Finance pays shit in Poland. I'm a quant analyst and have looked into the same thing.
If you apply in PL, yes. However if you work for the corp in the mother country and are willing to take the "exile" to branch in PL... different story.
Ryder Anderson
Ziemkiewicz, "Czerwone dywany, odmierzony krok" plus inne z tego okresu
Carson Foster
Are you retarded? How can someone confuse "high qualified immigration" with Muslims? Poland is so proud of being a xenophobic ethno-homogen country, but the only reason for this is, because Poles murdered everyone else. And this is the reason, why they don't get any immigration, high qualified included.
Angel Morgan
Why does a traditional, conservative, Catholic country like Poland have such a low birth rate (1.29)? It's even lower than Japan's. I respect the fact that you don't let many immigrants in, but aren't you worried about the long-term effects of depopulation?
Nathaniel Nelson
PiS is by far the most leftist party to gain power in Poland. They're conservative, religious and socialist.
Levi Jones
Like divide this by 10. That's the rate for the Polish workforce, though...
Brayden Thompson
>Poles murdered everyone else. O shit we back to the polish attrocities that didn't happen
Jonathan King
It doesn't work. It's just "kiełbasa wyborcza" - something you promise to get votes...
Mason Rivera
>Bring in $20,000,000 in profits for the firm >Get paid $15,000
? What?
Carson Taylor
This. I have to say that this disdain is very not-Polish, even though I'm very sceptic towards those who emigrated, plus nobody uses this term outside of Sup Forums.
Mason Lewis
Poles hate the ones that left out of jealousy that's all
Sebastian Cooper
> Poles murdered everyone else.
German educayshun. Next thing I'll learn from you is that Adolf was a Pole.
Evan Rivera
Anybody not completely retarded leaves the country and have families elsewhere. The current demography of Poland is literal proof of what happened. Where is the substantial German minority in Poland? Yeah, not there. Guess why? And is the reason, why nobody is stupid enough to flee TO Poland, just to get murdered again, when SHTF and food gets scarce. Who could even dream of such a retarded scenario?
Noah Foster
>nepotism is king in Poland, so I doubt you can get a good job without connections. It's the same here, especially with good jobs. It's easy to get a shit job.
Liam Butler
>Does Polish youth (17-21) look up to the current state of their government or despise it? To be honest youth doesn't care so much about politics. However, right wing parties are quite popular among interested youngsters. They view Korwin or Duda almost like celebrities >Why do Poles hate Poles living abroad? Because some Poles who go abroad are lowlifes that look for easy money (thus high criminal rates among them). Altough not all of them are like this, they lose respect because, ironically, they adapt to their new home and choose local culture over Polish >I know a few self hating Poles, why are they like this, what has their country done to them? Patriotism is a big sacrum in Poland and it is expected to treat your nation with greatest respect over here. Some people get sick of it and rebel, like teenagers. Also, Poles often despise their countrymen because of bad attitudes. We even have a saying, "Pole's a wolf to a Pole" >Why is Poland still a rigorously conservative country when there's so many dissidents and haters? As I said, patriotism is a big sacrum here, well established, as same as catholicism. These haters are in a very small minority, yet they are the loudest and have the biggest contact with the west
Cooper White
Poland is an outsourcing center, i.e. cheap slave labor. Shit work, shit pay.
HOWEVER
If you have contacts and shit (you're partner-level or can run your own company), then Poland has some unique opportunities to offer.
Sebastian Reed
You really don't know history do you?
I'll ask you to do one thing before posting such nonsense arguments. Go read through the history of World War 2 and what happened after it. That was not only not murder, but it wasn't done by us.
Have a nice lecture, because you look rather stupid in that argument.
Poland has no oil, gas and electricity is expensive.
How easy is it to start a bank there? If intermarium takes off, Warsaw would be the financial center; would be a good time to start an investment bank.
Christian Perez
Has nothing to do with WW2, ethnic cleanings happened the entire time Poland existed and will happen again, if shit goes south.
Michael James
>The middle-aged generation is the one that's cucked.
So same as America.
Jacob Kelly
>germ you mean t*rk
Hunter Morgan
You really are stupid. It has all the things possible to do with WW2 because the only reason that you lack the substantial German minority is because Stalin wanted homogenous middle european states to ensure that GERMANS DON'T USE MINORITIES AS WEAPON again. He RESETTLED 14 millions Germans back to Germany. Only a percentage died and it had nothing to do with the Polish people
Nathaniel Perez
Either the new empire rises or you get swallowed by the EU and displaced by migrants on a sinking ship.
>pick one
Ryan Russell
Don't pity them. They made their bed let them lie in it or they'll never learn.
Gabriel Rogers
> Such as?
E.g. a rapidly growing IT sector with a huge deficit of seed/venture funding.
> How easy is it to start a bank there?
Retail banking may be diffcult, as the market is cornered by several large players.
Something more specialized... could be interesting. People in my field (tech) bitch that the big banks don't really understand their needs.
Minimum requirement is 1 million euro capital.
Kayden Thomas
Cant wait to come to Poland. 3 more months!
Jose Cooper
General problem is this
> Economy was growing for 25 years on cheap labor > Cannot grow any more this way because productivity reserves have been exhausted > Salaries rise, competitiveness drops > Industry must transition to a higher value model, but needs capital to do that
This is either a crisis or an opportunity :)
Jeremiah Kelly
Why don't these companies hit up VC's in San Jose? Language barrier?
What are the minimum Tier1/2/3 capital ratios for banks?
What needs do these people have that the big banks don't meet?
Lucas Clark
>Why don't these companies hit up VC's in San Jose? Language barrier?
No, everyone speaks English.
The startup problem in PL problem is getting the initial funding round (10K-100K) level to go from the proof-of-concept to minimum viable product so you can talk to San Jose.
>What are the minimum Tier1/2/3 capital ratios for banks?
See EU regulations.
>What needs do these people have that the big banks don't meet?
Flexibility, like credit mechanisms for purchasing manufacturing lines. See SIEMENS bank for example of this.
Blake Evans
Also banks will not finance startups because they don't like IP as collateral.
