Do you believe in Hell Sup Forums?

Do you believe in Hell Sup Forums?

If Hell is real then God isn't all good.
If Hell doesn't exist then God is irrelevant and can go suck some astral dick.

See? There is no way that God is good.
Your God is Evil Sup Forums.

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one of these videos has your answer about god and religion

go watch them and stop being a faggot atheist

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

That's not to say we do good ourselves but yeah God might as well be evil

>and stop being a faggot atheist
Atheism is not a choice.

God isnt good or bad,
God just is.

Hell is basically the trash can of the cosmos.

It's the place for retards who cannot follow the most basic of instructions.

He'll isnt here right now. The white throne judgment decides where we go. The very first humans were told not to have sex with Lucifer. Woman did anyways. That WHEN they did that with eachother. They would die. Well. Theyre dead

but he made said retards purposely as retards, why is he specifically making people bad just so he can punish them? its like training your dog to piss on the carpet then putting him down because hes pissing on your carpet.

If the contemplation of the concept of something you might call """"god"""" doesn't activate your almonds, then that just demonstrates your inability to think outside the box you created for yourself.

you probably think a god is just a guy who sits on a chair up in the clouds and watches you jack off all day

if hell is real, all it means is heaven is real and god is good and humans, given free will and choice, have the choice to do evil and go to hell for all eternity.

Wait... so a cult that colludes with the state to extort people isn't telling the truth?

I'm shocked.

>Do you believe in Hell Sup Forums?
Considering I don't follow Jewish religions, no.

>you probably think a god is just a guy who sits on a chair up
I think "god" is a word which means everything, hence carries no information. If something means everything than in reality it means nothing.

>but he made said retards purposely as retards, why is he specifically making people bad just so he can punish them? its like training your dog to piss on the carpet then putting him down because hes pissing on your carpet.

You're smarter than a dog, and you have a free will to choose what you do.

If you walk into a room, and you see a sign that says "don't press this button or I'll come out there and fuck you up" and you press the button, then don't start crying when you're getting your ass kicked that you didn't know if the sign was serious.

Hell is metaphorical, just like all of the bible / torah. Walk down skid row, that's hell. Basically the most shit place you could ever be in life.

Watch the documentary "Crumb". That's hell for men with oedipal mothers and fucked up fathers. That's my hell.

>worshiping a kike god
This is how you know that Sup Forums's as bluepilled as the normies they hate

>GAS THE JEWS, RACE WAR NOW!!!
>DEUS VULT THOUGH, DON'T FORGET TO PRAISE JESUS, OUR FRIENDLY JEWISH CARPENTER :DDD

>Hell is metaphorical
Methaphores won't feed my children mate.
Fuck your methaphorical religion.
Every time you get caught on being retared you claim that it's metaphorical or that it is an alegory.

We "sin" and are judged and put into hell. But that's quite not the case. We sin and put ourselves into hell.

muh money right?

but if he is all powerful he knows exactly what I'm going to do with ((((free will)))) before he even creates me, in which case he is responsible for my suffering, if he knows that I will burn in hell before I ever even get created he could have created me differently or not at all.

>If Hell is real then God isn't all good.
>If Hell doesn't exist then God is irrelevant and can go suck some astral dick.
again with this question. read Mani teachings, he answered it well. 1700 years ago.

Theological titans in here.

israelites =/ judeans you fucktard, learn something

I want pagans to leave now.
Go back in the woods and fuck another tree.

Hell is body identification, the effects of sin in your life and living in a sinful world. Heaven is Christ-consciousness.

>If the contemplation of the concept of something you might call """"god"""" doesn't activate your almonds, then that just demonstrates your inability to think outside the box you created for yourself.
Still not a choice.

Huh? Someone has their fedora on upside down.

>Christ-consciousness
What the fuck is a Christ-consciousness?

Yes, this planet is hell.

>he thinks he's not supposed to suffer.

Than it must be destroyed.
It's the only way user.

What if there are dozens of different buttons with signs that contradict eachother?

>that logic
that's like saying if everything is black, everything is actually white
what kind of retarded are you, son?

Typical jewish scheming
>we're not the bad jews, user. THEY are!
Another typical kike post
>haha look at those retarded buddhists/pagans everyone! look at how stupid they are unlike us JUDEO-christians ;D

judaism has no hell, you just return for another round at life if you failed to try again.

>If Hell is real then God isn't all good.
Hell is the refuge of evil, where else is God supposed to put evil?

You're really helping your side with the oldest fedora meme on the internet. It's sad that you religitards know you believe in a bunch of medieval bullshit, so all you ever do to argue is post fedora memes.

So he just creates beings with the sole purpose of causing them eternal torment? gee I sure want to worship him now!

why even create the evil tho? its not like it existed or needed to be created, why is he so shit at making people?

It's all about informational content.
If a definition denotes many things than it's shit.
The less precise is the definition, the less information it carries. God is everything so it has zero informational value. You can't say anything meaningful about god. It's just a blank word. Like in Scrabble. You put whatever the fuck you want in this word and it remains true.
"God" is a linguistic problem.

There's two kinds of people.
Smart people and stupid people.
Smart people know stupid people are stupid.
Stupid people think they know smart people are stupid but are too stupid to know they're stupid.
Aside from the fact that God is becoming an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance comprehensive tests since the early 1930's has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that religious people on average tend to be more dumb... but anybody with half a working brain and one eyeball could have seen that one coming.
TFW you're too stupid to know you're being controlled and in a literal cult of human sacrifice.

>that's like saying if everything is black, everything is actually white
Except it isn't like that at all? Can you even read? Holy shit, if god means everything then it carries no meaning because it explains nothing, at least for him

Have fun with existential crises for the rest of your life, user
>its not your fault you're a virgin

Judaism might not, but your child religions do.

This. Religion is pretty much like that.
> There's a button
> A sign says "Press the button or bad things will happen".
> Another sign says "No ! Don't press the button or bad things will happen".
> Another "Actually you can press the button but only with two fingers on a saturday night"
> Another "The two fingers must be your thumb and your pinky, not like those filthy idiots using index and middle finger !"
> Another "Or maybe it's three fingers"
> Another "Or maybe shut up you infidels ! It's two fingers ! That's it ! Ring and middle ! And cover your wife !"
> Another "Hey guys, you know there's a secret second button hidden somewhere and you should definatly look for it because it's the real one !"
> Another "Don't eat meat. Because reasons"
> Another "Death to pinky pushers !"
> Another...

That's religion

Thank you.

Youre kind of right - seeing as God created everything in existence all while not existing.
Put simply, its a concept outside of human understanding.
Even this pataphysical explanation doesnt come close to describing what God is.

Thats why its always about faith, because its a concept outside of reasonable explanation.

Enough with this anti-semitic nonsense. DEUS GEVALT!

Death is the same for everyone. How you have lived your life dictates if you will experience pleasure or pain.

You realize that you are not separate from God but that God is within you. That also the whole world is this way, though most don't realize this which causes them to act in negative extremes because of their ignorance. But it's not about controlling others just changing your own perception.

"Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple, and the Spirit of God dwells in you?" - 1 Corinthians 3:16

"I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me." - Galatians 2:20

>can't respond with relevant argument
>falls back on personal attacks
Religious people, not even once.

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>Put simply, its a concept outside of human understanding.
Then why the fuck should I waste my time trying to understand something that I'm physically incapable of understanding?

>You realize that you are not separate from God but that God is within you
Can you prove it in the court of Law/Science?
Is God black?

You shouldn't, just pay your tithe.

>Punishing people for their crimes
>Bad

Yeah nice try faggot, I suppose you'd like a world where we let rapists and murderers get off scott free in this life too?

Gnosticism. Read the gospel of Thomas.

You're still thinking of god in the wrong terms.
You're applying your subjecting morality to the cosmos.

"""God""" is the metaphysical idealization of all things that are considered """good""". In a Cartesian sense, God is the unattainable perfection or absolute truth that we, in our finite understanding of the universe, must nevertheless all strive to get closer to, despite never being able to achieve.

God is the ultimate "meme" in the original definition, being a cultural concept of pattern of behavior that spreads from one person to the next.

>God gave me free will
>God is to blame for my (((suffering)))

You must pick one, or leave Sup Forums forever.

>Cant provide an argument
>points to a youtube video

Yuck

Are morals good because God ordains them, or does God ordain them because they are good?

inb4 an imbecile tries to have his cake and eat it too

You are sooo fucking dumb.
Okay, dummy.

God is good and He loves us. That is why he allows the choice for evil. If God didn't allow evil, that would mean that we'd be nothing but puppets masquarading in his grand play. But He loves us so much that he allows us to delay his plans, giving us all the chances in the world to understand his love.

Free will is a bit of a paradox, because human decision making happens within the physical world and is not exempt from causality. Say God does give us free will, when he created the universe he set in motion a chain of events that could only end in the user you replied to becoming an atheist. God set him up to fail.

There may or may not be an immaterial soul.
But if there is one, it is clearly less powerful that the biological mechanisms of human behavior.

/thread

So your saying god didnt know that by creating me in the fashion that he did even with (((free will))) that I would be damned to burn in hell for all eternity? Isnt he supposed to be all knowing thus knowing exactly what path I would (((choose))) before ever creating me?

>God set him up to fail.
This right here, he knew I was going be fucked before I ever existed, why not just skip making me or make me NOT be a terrible person?

Well thats where free will comes in, youre not obligated to believe, nor serve, nor pray, nor read the word, nor tithe your time and treasure.

Why do you think Jesus hung out with the lesser of mankind? He wasnt trying to get them to believe in God, he was trying to get them to live decent lives - just there to plant seeds, it was their decision on whether or not they wanted to have those seeds grow and produce fruit.

Did God tell you that a hellish eternity awaits you?

user, I've never personally spoken to a god or gods, but hell is plain jewish trickery. Do you believe everything that (((people))) tell you? Has anything you've experienced in your life proven to you that hell or an afterlife exists?
I believe there is a God out there that encircles everything - but I have no evidence for an anthrocentric 'god', other than the very fact that you and I exist to question existing.
Don't jump on to the Jeezus Wagon, but don't become an Anal Fisting Atheist either. God is out there somewhere.

Good are the things we do to contribute to our well being and the well being of our brothers and sisters who are also children of god. Evil does the opposite. You do enough evil you will bring out hell on earth. God cannot eliminate evil because to do so would take away the most sacred and divine part of us. God is good and hell is real because hell was created by freewill. Ours and that of Satan. Even if you dont think a big man in the clouds exist you cannot denies that human free will can create hell right here on earth.

The God is good and God is all powerful and God lets evil exist thing only seems like a paradox from the inside of our lives. Gods perspective it outside our understanding. And things will seem different when you pass to the next life.

I believe in Hell as a potential fate for sinners. I don't believe God exists. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Okay Mr so smart Atheist man, I got one for you:

If God isn't real, then how come mommy says he loves me very much? KEEPING IN MIND that mommy would never lie to me and that I am her special boy.

I await your "rebuttal"

No wonder so many jews just dont give a fuck about doing damage. Hell half the Israeli army would be stoked to come back and kill more Muzzies next time.

Man if hell exist I would be there then with the dude who sent all my family and friends there...

youtube.com/watch?v=Mcf9CLMQuRQ

no, thats judiasm

>one of these videos has your answer about god and religion
>If it's on yoo-toob, it must be true!
Do you ever get tired of demonstrating your bone-jarring gullibility?

yeah but that just seems like cheating to make up your own rules/religion, seems far less likely to be real in the long run then something like Christianity, at least they got some evidence that shit involving their religion actually went down back in the day.

All of the old testament is metaphor. Not sure about the new testament. Its kinda the same but doesn't seem as deep. Doesnt seem to go as much to the mose basic shit.

You have to earn it. No fags allowed. Plus we're entertainment. Why do people play the sims? Why does anything exist at all? Why does my ass itch? Why are you reading this?

if its beyond our understanding how the fuck was the concept ever introduced to mankind

>Are morals good because God ordains them, or does God ordain them because they are good?

Again, God is not a guy sitting on a throne handing out dictations. He's the meta-meme that exists partially in our DNA (which creates a rigid structure limiting the possibilities of our own behavior) and partially in the collective psyche of society as a while (which shapes the way that we interact with eachother).

It makes sense if you look at God as less of a sentient entity, and more of a biological and psychosocial foundation for how societies evolve over time.

Regardless of what the commie socialists tell you ((((JUDEO CHRISTIAN)))) values didnt take over the world in 2000 by going around oppressing people. It took over because it turns out that helping people is better for society than throwing your kids into a volcano.

What do you mean he isn't good? By what values or morality do you judge his actions? By human standards?

If you go by the Bible, all his actions are just and moral.

And you retards wonder why I wouldnt want myself labeled an atheist.

Why would hell make god not good? Because it's "mean"? Or because you know your going there and your assmad? You've only yourself to blame

the argument is in the youtube video, it says it better than i can

have you considered listening to what he has to say then drawing your own conclusions? if you dont agree afterwards then fine but to just ignore it because its on youtube then act all high and mighty is something a retarded teenager does

Literally being spoon-fed to you yet you are too low IQ to pay attention long enough

no one wants conflict

Because we can concieve the concept of a concept outside human understanding.

>WAHHH why does God have to separate the wheat from the chaff???? Why can't he just create wheat that HAS NO CHAFF if he's so powerful, HAHAHA CHRISTKEKS BTFO

Selfish children call themselves atheists because they think this way about life. God is an "asshole" because tendies don't grow on trees and you need to walk to the freezer and get them

The fact that you would see it as not your fault is the sin user. The motivational speakers are right when you dont let yourself blame others you will see the opportunities even if not everything is in your hands. When you do not live up to your potential you are sinning.

Lmaoing @ all these fedora tippers.

Have fun wallowing in your own self pity instead of contributing anything worth a damn to the world.

Over 50% of scientists believe in God or the concept of one, why don't you? Don't act like you're SMARTER than these people. pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

I do

This is the free will issue.

We have freedom to make choices just like Lucifer did. And just like him, Eve gave in to temptation and Adam followed. God didn't want automatons. We chose and continue to choose this world because of that event and our refusal of God. If everyone would return to God we might not have this issue, but he isn't going to force you to, and he knows that due to the corruption some will choose sin as a pattern.

Hell is there because people want it to be there, and they condemn themselves of their own volition. God is knocking, it's up to you to answer.

Do you come back as a jew again or is it a dice roll anywhere on earth?

Does that mean you need to wipe out the non jews in order to avoid becoming one?

>God isnt good or bad,
No two beliebers have the same idea of what these gods are.

but your missing the point here, Did he not KNOW exactly what I was going to do with my (((free will)))?

If God created man just to serve him, and created a firepit to put those who disobey then he is an evil God. Showing love on those who obey doesn't make god good. It makes him even more narcissistic and evil.

jew god dick licker

Is it evil to give a man the death penalty when he killed a bunch of people? you have a immortal soul there is only one place where you can go hell

>god is good

>have you considered listening to what he has to say then drawing your own conclusions?
No, there are millions of videos on You-Tube, so it's senseless to waste time treating them like they are the HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS from Galaxy Quest.

Quillen's Razor: If you can't make the argument yourself, you can't claim to understand your argument and even less likely you'll convince others.

Are sunglasses the new fedora? Either way that was a cringe as fuck and extremely accurate gif. Now go comb your neck.

Humanities is not real Science.