Why does fascism always fail?

And why is communism so much better?

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>le good intentions meme

kill me

Don't let JEW media brainwash YOU

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Janet Yellen = JEW

Fucking shills get off my board

When most people say fascist they mean authoritarian. Communism is inherently fascist.

>the whole point of fascism is to do evil
holy fuck

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lmao

You know, the funny thing is, about 7 or 8 years ago when I was 16 or 17 I would have read that headline and maybe been intrigued. Now that i've been here for years, however, I can smell the bullshit/ see the hilariously poor argumentation here from a mile away.

>evil
>believing in spooks

Kek

goodreads.com/book/show/70561.The_Gulag_Archipelago_1918_1956

>Cross-ideological moral statements
Literally worthless. Liberalism, Fascism, and Marxism each place a different concept as the most important principle, each of them will invariably see the other two as evil. Defending one while condemning another based on morality only reveals which camp you sit in.

Communism is inherently anarchic, and really hasn't ever actually been done before, but that's because it's a pipe dream that assumes all forms of social hierarchy can be dismantled which is utterly ludicrous. The thing most people call communism is socialism.

>1999
Holy hell you dug for this one bro

What is operation thunder

>Women entering the workforce was caused by Keynesian economics
Nigger what? It happened as a result of women being used so much during WW2 when most of the men were in the military.

well she's not wrong
authoritarian is pretty disgusting and anyone who wants it needs to be purged

If you want to strip people by force from their private property and establish a dictatorship... you're pretty much evil.

>good intentions
>throwing people in gulags and burrying political dissidents alive

>fascism and Natsoc are one dimensional evil cartoon characters
this is how dumb the people we are up against are. Think about that for a minute.

I would love to hear a modern "progressive" give coherent definitions of good, bad, evil, and virtuous, since they are stuck in the quagmire of moral relativism most of the time.

To Hitler, what he was doing was good. Who is to say that his persoective is incorrect? Hitler set out to do good from his perspective. Against what absolute moral framework should his subjective good be measured?

Finally, fascism is different from national socialism. Most of Mussolinis reforms were effective and morally benign as compared to, say, the implementation of Communism in the USSR.

Communism is about getting rid of the best, most beautiful and ideal, and replacing it with the lowest common denominator. First thing Stalin did was kill the elites and all estethic culture.

Naziism is about raising everyone to the highest standard. To raise everyone to their utmost and demand absoloute dedication. In the process of "purifying" the nazis started getting rid of the lowest common denominators (like retards, degenerates and downs syndrome people etc.)

excellent point

it's shit

How is the economy supposed to grow without loans?

Victory assured

More products being made

But where is the money coming from?

I can't believe that retarded shit came off The Guardian. Literally a fucking waste of oxygen that rag, wouldn't even wipe my arse with it.

The statement is factually incorrect. Hitler quite openly was a disillusioned soldier who rose to power to try and save his people. Even guys like Himmler were in it because they believed in something greater.

Stalin was a bank robber who rose to power to stack his plate with roast beef and suckling pig while hundreds of thousands of Russians had their fingers snapped and their bellies sliced open in Finland. He was a despot who ruled for himself and only for himself. He killed everyone who wanted to do even an iota of good in Russia. It was his kingdom. He owned it.

Communism is provably morally inferior to National Socialism.

Fascism is similar to the body's autoimmune response to a virus. In Fascism's case, that virus is International Finance and Communism.
Do these people actually think Fascism would be around if society were clean and orderly, free of (((their))) poison? It would have no reason to exist in that case.

Increase the supply by a amount tied to an asset (gold, silver, oil)
Not, I need new bling let's increase the money supply by having me get a loan for perishables and then having debt with nothing to back it up

You have attempts at AnCom in, say, Revolutionary Catalonia. That was evil too. It resulted in Worker's Unions essentially owning the population like cattle and in farmers, priests and anyone who spoke out against the regime being murdered by gangs of anarchist thugs.

Communism, as in ACTUAL Communism, is still evil.

because it turns out that people don't like authoriarianism and will revolt in the end. That's why Libertarianism is the only feasable way.

This is quite possibly the most retarded thing i've ever seen.

>he's actually trying to push communism
end yourself

>literally claiming to know peoples' intentions
Thought crimes are here.

See CIA?

You failed.

How can you do that? There's only a finite amount of gold in circulation.

Our entire economy is based on borrowing and spending money. Without it we wouldn't enjoy the standard of living we do today.

What you're suggesting would massively lower the standard of living for everyone.

>enjoy the standard of living we do today.

More than half of this country's kids will never own homes.

And you think that returning to the gold standard will fix that? How??

Homes will become available once the boomers die off. Presumably your parents are homeowners and will leave the family home to their kids.

>Our entire economy is based on borrowing and spending money.
That's why everyone's debt levels keep growing exponentially, do you actually think that can continue forevermore?
You can find new gold or whatever the currency is pegged too.
What you're suggesting will lead to everyone being massively indebted which can never be repaid.
It's like maxing out your credit cards and then saying you're rich. Sure your quality of life is high... for now... until the debt comes due.. then you're screwed

Oh boy the ole good intentions are good intentions even if you get 100,000,000 people killed your a good guy meme.

Fascism has never been tried.

> is real
> its not even in the "opinion" section of the site

Predatory loaning is harder to do when everything isn't purely speculative.

There's only a certain amount of gold on planet Earth. Not to mention the fact that gold is just a shiny rock. It has no intrinsic value.

>Sure your quality of life is high... for now... until the debt comes due.. then you're screwed
So you'd rather that the vast majority of people live in poverty?

>Our entire economy is based on borrowing and spending money.
That's why everyone's debt levels keep growing exponentially, do you actually think that can continue forevermore?
You can find new gold or whatever the currency is pegged too.
What you're suggesting will lead to everyone being massively indebted which can never be repaid.
It's like maxing out your credit cards and then saying you're rich. Sure your quality of life is high... for now... until the debt comes due.. then you're screwed >So you'd rather that the vast majority of people live in poverty?
I'd rather they live within their means rather than borrow until they collapse the system and then the quality of life really goes down the tubes
You can only print so much money until it becomes worthless

If you didn't notice there are only 3 Communist countries left and they are at pitiful sate. Also many post soviet republics are in fact fascist (sort of). Including Russia.

Demand capitalist republics or die fighting for it.
>fuck communism
>fuck fascism
>fuck Marxist bipolar thinking

>fail

Portugal improved drastically, as did Spain. Germany did in the 30's as well.

Fascism, Communism, and Liberalism are all aborted children of Modernity. The latter won, nominally at least, and yet the current system of government, whereby an elite totally insulated from actual democracy and market forces makes decisions based on ideological considerations most ordinary people would find contemptible, has as much in common with the formers ideas as it does with John Locke or 1776. Read Three New Deals, Leviathan and its Enemies, or Authoritarian Socialism in America, and you'll really start to see this picture more fully.

Do you think the American dollar is in danger of becoming worthless?

If you go back to the gold standard then the vast majority of American will be living in abject poverty. Is that what you want?

Why does communism always kill tens of millions of its own people?

this meme image of that crypto is too fucking reddit/boomer fuck off ivan

>Communism is inherently fascist.
No there are big distinctive difference.
1. National question. Communism is international. Fascist proclamates some race or races superiority (they can be in tiers germans>anglo>piss> shit> slavs)
2. Economy system. Communism says absolute no to property property and hired labor. Taboo. Fascism agrees with some degree of capitalism.

But you are right there that they both are close by there authoritarian core and can easily swap into each other. What many USSR republics did . And North Korea ATM probably are much close to fascism than to communism.

>Do you think the American dollar is in danger of becoming worthless?
Considering the vast majority of dollars are overseas and not in the actual money supply, it's possible if they all came flooding in quickly
>If you go back to the gold standard then the vast majority of American will be living in abject poverty. Is that what you want?
Do you want people's money to become worthless once another country goes back to a gold standard? (Or something equivalent, doesn't have to be gold, that was just an example)

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That wasn't real communism

Thank you Ivan!
It's incredible how many americans can't differ between leftwing authoritarian ideologies and rightwing authoritarian ideologies.
>pic related: typical retarded american meme because of this

Communism literary claims that some social strata must be exterminated. Sometimes the Bolsheviks used various retarded methods to determine who should be killed, like during the early stages of the revolution people were killed for wearing glasses or having too delicate hands. It's also a myth that communists didn't commit ethnic genocide, eg:
>The Polish Operation of the Soviet NKVD security service in 1937–1938 was a mass operation of the NKVD carried out against purported Polish agents in the Soviet Union during the period of the Great Purge. It was ordered by the Politburo against the so-called "Polish spies" and customarily interpreted by the NKVD officials as relating to "absolutely all Poles". It resulted in the sentencing of 139,835 people, and summary executions of 111,091 ethnic Poles,[3][3][4] as well as those accused of working for Poland.[5] The operation was implemented according to NKVD Order № 00485 signed by Nikolai Yezhov.[6] The majority of the victims were ethnically Polish but not all, according to Timothy Snyder.[7] The remainder were 'suspected' of being Polish, without further inquiry.[6] In order to speed up the process the NKVD personnel reviewed local telephone books and arrested persons with Polish-sounding names.

>The Polish Operation was the largest ethnic shooting and deportation action during the Great Terror campaign of political murders in the Soviet Union, orchestrated by Nikolai Yezhov.[8][9]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

nice bait

The author of Op Article, Julie Bindel, wasLiterally was no-platformed by a SJW because she was viewed as Transphobic and had to be defended by Right-Winger Rod Liddle.

>Communism is inherently fascist.
ALL OF MY RAGE
KILL YOURSELF
BURN IN HELL
NEVER RETURN

>the nazis started getting rid of the lowest common denominators (like retards, degenerates and downs syndrome people etc.)

False if you mean they started to kill off the ones who were there. True if you mean they started aborting retards etc before they were born. There were numerous foundations in place to specifically help the disabled and retarded who were already in Germany. You started off right then seemingly begin to misunderstand what socialism actually is. The point of eugenics was to "breed out" the defective genes and make the race strong, not to kill the ones off who were already there.
Why would Hitler do that and risk the wrath of war (assuming we're talking prior to 1939) when he stated countless times he didn't want any war and something like that is a perfect excuse to go to war. After 1939 then you might as well be saying the Holocaust happened too.

Nazi Germany didn't have a gold backed system or a (((debt))) system and unironically experienced the most GDP (and GNP) of any European country during 1933-1945. The (((German Miracle))) didn't take place until after (((they))) had obliterated the country. The same way they tell you that "gun crime has fallen in Britain", but always leave out the part where it's not actually lower than it was pre-ban. It's all memes.
Believe it or not we're supposed to have a Silver Standard. But that seems like it's true in name only. It genuinely sounds like you've fallen into the trap of

>"But goys we can only have (((capitalism))) or (((communism)))!"

Very sad.

Since i studied jewish-german names a long time ago. In case it wasn't obvious.
Bindel is a jewish-german name
Similar names that are also jewish-german:
>Binde
>Bindefeld
>Bindelglas
>Bindelglid/Bindelglied
Yes, in Germany you can study the history of german language names that only apply to jews as well as names that sound jewish but aren't and of course names that are carried by jews and non-jews.
Bindel however is a pure jewish lastname

Lenin's early visions for the USSR were laden with a final goal of total Communism (absence of a state and communal appropriation of needs, highly automized production, utopian paradise). Lenin had steps to get there (Dictatorship of Proletariat) that were not anarchic, as he knew people would not assimilate into a communist society without prolonged coercion and force. However, Lenin's vision was for an AnCom society. It's not inherently evil, it's just impossible.

>reads text
>british flag
Du bist ein guter "Lad"
>pic related: when brits, germans and others fought together
>"Gott mit uns"

Although
>Bindi

Is a facial decoration from south asia.

Thats socialism you retarded sack of shit

>Facism
Jews got hurt
>Communism
Jew got to rule.

Really makes you think.

>Jews got hurt
No if they are privileged nation under specific version of fascism. Who did say jews can't be a sort of Aryans?

Language differences are always to be kept in mind.
"Binde" in german basically means anything you can use to wrap around a wound
I also just checked if "Bindi" is also a version of that jewish lastname. It isn't, so it's good.
Btw, for those interested, not all names that sound jewish to non-german-speakers are jewish.
Here some examples that are 100% german non-jewish names:
>Goldbach (town)
>Schwarzenbach
>Lilienbeck
>Hebestein
>Lauenstein
>Krukenberg

Well there have been quiet a lot of people with jewish roots on one side of the family, some even were allowed to grow to high ranks in the 3rd Reich.
Examples:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Milch

what war is that?
>sorry to retard

That's from the Boxer Rebellion
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion
Not retarded, most peopel don't know about it, i only learned about it because a great great grandfather of mine fought in it
>pic related

So the fed buying bad assets in the 30s and through the 50s buying assets with printed money is Austrian?

>anyone who wants it needs to be purged

maximum beady

>Boxer Rebellion
thought it could be something that
>heard of it,but its just so small in public consciousness compared to so many events in ww2

>Tfw our great great grandparents might have met
He was stuck inside during the Peking when the boxers sieged the legation quarters on some kind of diplomatic mission to the qing. Apparently he was a part of the group of civilians that took up arms with the rest of the troops stationed there.

>Tfw no great alliance to fight the zerg agian

Like so many battles, i mean, you see the media today when it comes to Syria and the idea of the USA, NATO, Russia, Iran etc. fighting together against ISIS

this woman is literally the worst so called journalist in the world.

I assume yours was from the USA?
Yeah it's a war that should be read about by pretty much any westerner, it shows what can happen if we all join arms.
Mine was also in Peking to as he said "clean the streets".
Maybe they at least looked at eachother once hehe. I have many pictures from his battles there including some pretty bloody ones of boxer rebels.
I also like this picture my great great grandfather had framed.
It's about
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Seymour_(Royal_Navy_officer)
telling him and his comrades to be in the frontlines
>pic related

Nope, he was Japanese.
>Tfw my great grandparents probably tried to kill each other since both where in the Pacific

You should watch the estonian movie "1944" which is exactly about what you just described and it's a great movie that unlike american movies doesn't show the axis side as retarded
>imdb.com/title/tt3213684/
Trailer:
>youtube.com/watch?v=E6A4nLqOW6s
The estonians, latvians, lithuanians had the same TFW
Also
>japanese
OUR BEST ALLY
>pic related

>I'm on Team Good Guys!

>The evil Republicans are on Team Bad Guys!

Liberals are children. This woman should be composing these editorials in her head as she stocks a shelf at a dollar store.

Article from 1999 lmao

Sadly many "americans" on the "right" aren't any better as you see in the alt-lite people who for (((some reason))) always compare who they direct hate towards to the germans/axis instead of communists and marxists like Posobiec does
>pic related

“Italy wants peace and quiet, work and calm. I will give these things with love if possible and with force if necessary.”

-The guy who started Fascism