National Capitalism General /ncg/

National Capitalism:
>Free Market
>Government exists to secure borders and ensure voluntary contracts are upheld.
>Commies, shitskins, jews, and muslims get helicoptered.
>Main religion will be Christianity.
>Immigration is only allowed from Aryans and intelligent whites.
>Nationalism is always put above globalism.
>Citizens have freedom to bear arms.
>Government power is restrained by constitution (eg: government is divided into sub-governments by county, government does not regulate because if enough people want a company to stop doing something they can boycott it and it either changes or just dies, government must protect rights that exist and not limit them)
>All commie countries get recreationally nuked and replaced with Christian Aryan Gigamalls.
Cool new flag ideas are encouraged.

Some more flags

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Heil Pinochet!

>Main religion will be Christianity.
dropped

Free Market does not mean Unregulated Market.

This is a fuck lot better than anarcho-capitalism.

National Capitalism is an oxymoron. Try again.

It's a novel idea, but half the issue in the Modern West is the consumer market rotting our people from the inside out. Why struggle for nonmaterial ideals when you can supplant it with luxury?

Jew located

No, you can put nationalism above economy.

How do you prevent non-tangible or non-monetary issues which are at the end of the day the core of our struggle? We arent collapsing due to lack of wealth, but a lack of moral virtues and steadfastness. How does NatCap prevent huge industries whose entire purpose is the promulgation of degeneracy?

Furthermore there are very few economic marxists anymore, its all culture. The trotskyites dropped economic marxism decades ago. Outside of South Africa there is no mass commie uprising coming to take our land

Well then it isn't capitalism is it? Either the pursuit of capital is the primary/sole drive of individuals within the socio-economic system (capitalism) or it isn't (not capitalism).

It's not that hard. What you're saying makes sense if the only economic system that can utilize Market economics is Capitalism, but that id demonstrably false.

While you practice a religion started by a literal kike

>capitalist
>christian

pick one

Agreed. And for the record i think private ownership and individual rights are fundamental. But capitalism as an ideology needs a strong moral counterbalance because people are NOT rational decision makers operating in an open market of economic exchange, we are irrational tribal monkeys who will fuck, fart and take drugs all day if the opportunity is there.

>national capitalism
Are you for real man

Because he calls out false Jews and calls them the synagogue of Satan, none of the "muh joos" are actual ethnic Hebrews and they as Christ said worship Satan.
Lurk moar faggot

Wouldn't mind living there. Although, what did you mean by "main religion"? If that means official, then fuck off. If that means the only one allowed (besides atheism), then OK.

I guess Max Weber is a foreign name to you?

>hurr deep xtianity is useless xD
tip your autism harder faggot

He wasn't a rabbi by modern standards, as back then, rabbi was used to label those whom were wise. In other scriptures throughout the bible, other non-religious figures were referred to as rabbi, although back then rabbi was synonymous with teacher or wise one. Rabbi in the present has a different meaning, in which it pertains specifically to Judaism.

Fuck this flag. First of all capitalism isn't shekel worship and second we're better than national socialists. Fuck the cryptic swastika. Let's have our own identity separate from NatSoc.

Capitalism is antichrist i.e. why we have our current situation.

>First of all capitalism isn't shekel worship

No, that's exactly what it is.

As I explained to OP (who disappeared immediately): either the primary drive of people is the pursuit of capital (capitalism) or it isn't their primary drive (not capitalism). That is literal "shekel worship".

>Main religion will be Christianity.

Haha, no.

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I'm on board with that.

now that's something i can support

It's an oxymoron.

you just don't know how to do it right

How many children can I fuck then?

No, it is not.

isn't national capitalism just fascism with a fancy name?

Most Neo-Confederates and Klan types already hold to these sort of views

Yes it is.

read: Yeah, worked great. With no real outside direct interference, Chile is back to being ruled over by Marxist-socialists with utter subversion in the education and media system. Great example for a counterargument.

No, it's just National Socialism for people who don't understand that it's an oxymoron and who still believe that all socialism is Marxist-socialism that has been beaten into their brains since birth by their education system.

Well then according to your definition Adam Smith himself wasn't a capitalist.

and nazi germany lost WWII, doesn't mean that you wouldn't support national socialism

Fascism involves corporatism, while national capitalism does not. The most government interference that national capitalism has over the economy is in the form of protectionism.

I maked this.

The central symbol is supposed to symbolise the dollar, the largest modern currency

The electron shells outside are supposed to symbolise scientific progress and the gear on the right is supposed to symbolise industrial production

no clue if this is a workable ideology but i like the flags!

Lol, fuck your authoritarian ideology. There will be resistance.

>There will be resistance.
From who? The working class supports us, the military and police support us, the only people on your side are the unemployed and some of the rich people backing them.

am i the only one that reads it as "cunt fai"?
really makes it more ridicolous than it already is

>National Capitalism
>In a global system of trades
what n oxymoron ,lmao ,no logic is found in kekistanitard

>you walked right into it

Having all three of the world's super powers beat you in a war proves that it requires massive scale direct outside interference to destroy National Socialism. With enough military strength any state-ideology is capable of being destroyed. Pinochet being the example you used is the exact opposite. His views on how Chile should exist fell apart with nothing more than small amounts of subversion from outside forces with the entire fight against him being done by his own countrymen.

Utter false equivalency. Try again if you like.

Smith was the original laissez-faire economist (even if that isn't a word that was around during his time). He was definitely a capitalist. His view on economics is that profit motive should be the key driving force behind all economic activity.

So I ask you, what are you trying to get at?

Thanks ben garrison I didn't realize the dollar sign represents dollars.

We got a fuckin genius over here.

lad, or whatever you call yourself, we shouldn't be enemies, the opposite in fact, commies are more of a threat than you are to me or i am to you

How national socialist country would function in todays world ?wouldnt it be quarantined and thus failed state?

You still lack the "socialism" part, i.e. welfare state. It is not put into for sheer conviction, but of necessity. Why? Because the welfare state makes sure enough gibs me dat are available so that the people won't start rioting.

No matter the form of government, you have to keep the people happy and controlled and you literally do that with contolling mechanisms like public health care and similar things. Otherwise, you are doomed in the long run.

>Jews get helicoptered
>National religion is Christianity
wew lad

Unironically: does capitalism with national central bank and otherwise all financial sector offed count as national capitalism? It looks like a good way to reduce Jewish influence.

>His view on economics is that profit motive should be the key driving force behind all economic activity.
That IS the key driving force, I can be patriotic as fuck but if I'm going to be undertaking some major task I better get some personal reward as well.

>So I ask you, what are you trying to get at?
My point is that you're making the definition of National Socialism so broad that most nations could be considered national socialist, including 1776 America. Fascism and National Socialism are actual ideologies involving specific policies, such as corporatism, not merely "patriotic capitalism".

Well National Socialism represents a type of modified Autarky (economic self sufficiency), that believes that economic activity should be focused within a country wherever it is economically viable ( as opposed to North Korea that does it even at the starvation cost of it's own citizens).

Having a National Socialist state in the modern system therefore is most desirable in a country with both the population, industrial capacity and the natural resources to sustain itself in most areas of economic activity. But even then, in the areas where it isn't possible, National Socialists only have to play the key weakness of capitalists in other countries: their desire to accumulate the highest profits from every transaction. There are many countries in the world with massive natural resources but no brains to use them that can be exploited for the necessary natural resources irregardless of international "quarantine".

>3 posts by this id

you niggas are posting in a bait thread

man are you a bunch of gullible retards

Healthcare can be implement on a local level, by the county and state governments. If the poor want federal healthcare, then let them riot and be put down by the police.

>christianity

Into the trash it goes.

I like this.

THE GOYIM KNOW

You lost me at (((Free Market))).

Deregulating everything just ensures the current (((powerful multinational corporations))) can carte blanche destroy the rest of their competition and complete our financial enslavement.

A "free market" might be an eventual goal, but you couldn't switch from our current system to that without killing everybody. Which violates the NAP.

The rest of it is right on.

Just make sure it gets audited frequently.

Could u give me a basic gestalt on autarky economy model ?also how would nat soc work in small countries like baltic region ?does it even can work ?

>be ancap
>everything in society is decided by the consumer, the lowest common denominator
>muh cummies, muh pleasure, muh convenience, muh utility is prioritized because profit
>a society for the people
>"redpilled" "right wing"
o i am laffin

This lmao

OP is a fucking dipshit

> does it even can work

Christ this board is full of retards

>That IS the key driving force, I can be patriotic as fuck but if I'm going to be undertaking some major task I better get some personal reward as well.

Wanting money from your hard work and generating the most profits possible can be entirely separate.
Capitalism is about using the radical excesses of markets to extract the most possible money from a community, even at the expense of the community. But as I have stated previously, markets aren't only utilized by capitalists. If I was to get involved in a market venture, it would be to provide the best goods/services to the community in an attempt to ensure the best outcome for that community and that community would reward that idea with patronage and thus profits. The United States as an example is the literal opposite of that (as far as market economics is concerned). Massive swathes of the public live in degenerate profligacy over shit they don't need and this live in poverty and a state of economic slavery in the form of debt. That is capitalism area of markets: whatever can be gotten away with in the pursuits of profits is acted upon.

>My point is that you're making the definition of National Socialism so broad that most nations could be considered national socialist, including 1776 America. Fascism and National Socialism are actual ideologies involving specific policies, such as corporatism, not merely "patriotic capitalism".

No. National Socialism views economics as a secondary consideration and while it does use markets, the key defining factor of National Socialism is it's social and demographic policies. As far as it's economics were concerned, National Socialist Germany was completely run of the mill. But because of the markets it utilizes, but doesn't focus specifically on, it ahs the same traits as many other market systems. But you said it yourself: 1776 cannot be National Socialist because of it's non-economic system.

>what is patronage

Lets say we take Estonia ,we implement nat soc ,country which has :
No resources ,no man power .How can we sustain social programs without increasing taxes which leads to foreign investments and capital leaving country thus ->massive loss of jobs, whats the solution here ?
the way i see it its only automatization and heavy subsidation into strategical nation owned business like it was done in south korea at beguining(business side)

As a basic rule, the smaller the country, the less it can utilize an autarky economic model. The Baltic states are quite small and as such are very restricted in the way they can commit to economics, being heavily reliant on outside resources and capital.

The key element would be to buy Estonian goods and services where it is viable to. And since National Socialism views economics as a secondary consideration, the whole point is the preservation of your people, culture and territory.

Cuck religion instead of manly esoteric hitlerism or neo-paganism.

What kind of "Christianity?" The Catholicism that fagged out after Vatican II and got filled with kid-raping homos or the Southern Baptists who "condemn racism" or the moronic Mormons who don't allow caffeine? If you had the spirit of medieval Catholicism alive, then MAYBE.

Make part of the plan appointing an Anti-Pope in St. Louis and we'll talk.

>>Free Market
>>Nationalism is always put above globalism.

thank you for answers ,still tho i cant see it working in todays world at small scale without having huge deficits in budgets or being ganged up on like n.korea case ,i guess we need to wait for robots .
>neo -paganism
didnt himler and thule society practiced child sacrifice to further their goals ?,i dont support crist cucks but while nazi germany was officially christian(?) ,elite behind the doors practiced paganism/satanism

This. If Christianity ever wants to be taken seriously on Sup Forums you guys should have your own little council somewhere and aryanize the fuck out of it. Any reference to man must be european. Any text about egalitarainism and cucking should simply just be removed as jewish heretical filth that wormed its way into the bible. Add hitler was a prophet. DO WHATEVER THE FUCK IT TAKES TO FIX CHRISTIANITY.
As it stands, the religion is a garbage heap.

Daily reminder that Ancaps aren't nationalists.