Daily reminder that krauts ruined fascism and Europe

Daily reminder that krauts ruined fascism and Europe.

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hitler was never fascist stupid surrender monkey

Top left picture looks like shit
What is wrong with you?

Nothing has changed

germanic pleb gonna be pleb.

Looks like modern art crap piece. I bet you like that hack Picasso too.

No. Too whiny.

Prefer Dali to be honnest.

And honnestly it's normal, modern art is a caricature of futurism, which was a relevent and great art movement that understand its era and tried to fit with it.

But if for you art is just things looking nice in a frame, there's no need to discuss I guess. The only thing to say is that Italian futurism managed to destroy degenerate dadaist art and its nihilism with a powerfull counter-culture, nazi art was so shit that they have to create a " degenerate art " exposition, supposedly to show how shit jewish art was, the truth is, most of their elites did go there to admire works that were still better than Breker neo-classical homo-erotic sculptures.

Yea cool story fag. Go sniff your own farts somewhere else, reddit preferably.

Wah! I can't defend my country because some people that look kinda like me once did bad things to jews.

Just spread your asshole for muslim dick already. Your country deserves death.

I give you that, his movement was plebeian and populist, nothing to do with the aristocratic vision of life that fascism defend.

But in the end, his name is associated with fascism and Europe ruined its fate because of that retarded movement.

what about japans fashism ?

>Rosenberg
>Blavatsky
damn those evil Germanics

More traditional imperialism than real fascism desu, but still decent.

Daily reminder that France is a lost cause,
ram-packed with niggers.

Who the hell wants anything to do with Shitaly and its "fascism". You are lower than the dirt on my shoe.

Fucking idiots

>tfw the futurists will forever be lost in history thanks to German autism.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Nazis become both famous and infamous depending on who you talk too
>No one knows who Wussoweenie was

kek

>tfw Americans are infinitely worse than Nazis

Whoever thinks that might is right is a complete retard. Look at what kind of culture the US created as soon as they got their hands on nuclear weapons. Might is casual, it delends entirely on which resources you find and how licky are you when it comes to discovering weapons, yet this won't ever account for a real tradition and an actual superior approach to life.
This is why, even with the best army in the world, Nazis could not be anything but barbars.

Pic related, they were plebs even when it came to classical art. Unlike fascists, their approach to tradition was just LARPing.

Forgot the pic

That's the funniest thing actually. Kraut supremacism was fueled by esoteric fairy tales writted by a slav occultist women and by pseudo-science writted a balt.

typical nazi pleb behaviour, measuring the worth of something by the knoweldge the mass have of it.

>Kraut supremacism was fueled by esoteric fairy tales writted by a slav occultist women and by pseudo-science writted a balt.
well yeah, would look pretty arrogant if we would do it ourselves, you know, like you are doing it for your people now

Implying I'm doing it for my people.

I'm racially a celt/gaul. I only have the honnesty to recognize that the latin race objectively produced far more than others. The fact that the city of Firenze alone produced more art and culture than the whole germanic world should makes you thinks.

More than that, I'm only stating that your movement ruined the possibility of a great fascist revival of Europe and doomed us, because I have enough of pan-germanism autism we find here.

Southern Germans are half-Celts
Bavarians and East Germans were originally Slavs
Why hate on us, you Frankish (Germanic) faggot?

You mean that country that could not take over Greece is more respectable/ powerful than the country that took down yours, with ez ?

I don't care about races. I only care about cultures. When I said " latin race " I talk about the latin cultural world. Some cultures produce great things for the world and other are pure cancer. Germans, with the exception of some of their philosophical authors, ruined Europe the last century, and I'm simply pointing that fact.

And, I don't even hate you heavily. I don't hate you with the same depth than semites, arabs or jews, for instance. I wouldn't even make this thread if this board wasn't filled with germanboos suprematist, who thinks somehow germans are the peak of Europe. This thread is mainly adressed to them.

In terms of culture, art, philosophy and possibility to change Europe in depth, yes.

shouldn't have let that manlet Napoleon invade German lands which made it necessary for Bismarck to unite it later to avoid it
all the suffering, death and destruction would not have happened

Implying I don't hate that fag.

Don't bother, if i'm harsh on germans, I'm even more on french, but that's not the subject.

France is shithole since 1789.

But isn't the culture that makes country strong/ weak ? By that , wasn't Italy almost UNrespectable in the war theatre in both wars ?

No, cultural greatness and military ability are two different things. If they were bound, thenthe US would be a cultural paradise, as this user pointed :
As for Italy, they can't fight for shit since the Roman Era, that doesn't prevent them from being the heart of Europe in terms of Culture and Art. And as they revived Europe during the Renaissance bringing a new golden era, they would have revived us with the fascist metaphysics and aesthetics, if not for german autismo interfering.

>projection, the post

I hate both, but there is no denying how much more interesting Italian Fascism is to Nazism. Nazism is really REALLY boring shit that just boils down to racism. Thats it. And at that, racism based on fucking magic fairy tales. There is a reason only edgy beta males LARP as nazis when they realize they arent going to get laid

Mussolinis life story and his views on socialism and soviet communism are really interesting to. So is his fascination with Lenin. Mussolini is for intelligent people, Hitler is for shitposting newfags who want to just post "le cool symbols!" and basically be we wuzian faggots.

Evola was at times closer to NS than he was to Italian Fascism.

Well said camerata.

>Nazism is really REALLY boring shit that just boils down to racism. Thats it.
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But the reason we are communicating in english right now is because of british coulture and the might that spread it ! Dont we ?

He dismissed the NS more than Fascism tho. In his views, both were still too much slave to the modern world, but if there was hope with fascism, nazism was doom from the start because it failed to understand race as a metaphysical nature and reduced it to physical traits and IQ points. That's what I get from " Fascism seen from the right " at least.

Go suck Derrida's mummified dick.

ok

Yes, and isn't the world becoming cancerous because of anglo-saxon leftist hollywoodian culture that is a poor movement with few innovations ?

Great cultures isn't the same thing as dominant culture. Our dominant culture is shit. Fascism could have been a great culture, but it was stop in its flight by WW2 and post-war anglo-saxon domination.

>muh youtube videos!

amazing. The one and only thing you neo-nazi types EVER talk about is race. Thats it. Its the most baseline retarded tribalism LARP shit ever. Dont even get me started on the failed abortion that is neo-nazi movements in the american south which is just "muh bible! jezuz wuz an aryan and probably supported Hitler to!" shit. All promoted by some rich racist dick head who cares about literally nothing other than his own personal standing and seeks to create a cult of willing cucks to insulate him.

Says the faggot nation who started it all with the moron who liberated the jews and other freedom aka degeneracy
And natsoc is not fascism you nigger

I already answered to both of your points.

But isn't the US 20/21st century culture leader ? Books , movies, science , this webpage that we are using now ? Does it not count ? Aren't military victories of the past a part of the nations culture ?

>Great cultures isn't the same thing as dominant culture.
Isn't this highly unobjective tho ? It is dominant for a reason, means it jewed / survived das it is grater ? Or The survival of the fittest would not apply to culture ?

You still don't get it. The worth of a culture isn't measured by its diffusion. If that was the case, then any shit gibberish rap track would worth more than a forgotten classical music wonder. Yes, the US culture is the dominant culture, because it is widespread and influence the whole world, it doesn't prevent it from being a poor culture, in terms of the depth of its thematics, in term of its understanding of life, in terms of originality and capacity to explore new domains of creation. Had the fascism won culturally, we will be in a new renaissance, a new golden age of revival of our aesthetics and our metaphysics.

Fascism produced a great culture that sadly never manage to influence the world, due to historical contingences ( them failing WW2 and being attached to natsoc germany ). US culture is a poor culture that manage to influence the world due to historical contingences ( Plan Marshall, WW2 etc. ).

Do you get the difference between a dominant culture and a great culture now ?

And hitler made my country from a zimbabwe tier shithole to the strongest power in the entire world in only one decade and we were the best at everything at the time meanwhile italy was shit and with the duce it was slightly less shit.
This faggot was nothing but a poser
Factual hitler and natsoc are way superior to the duce and his fascism in every aspect.

I don't understand why you espouse that horrid modern art in the OP. You can always synthesize the beauty of the modern world with old ideas and standards. Forgetting your past is as disgraceful as ignoring your future.

>desu
kill yourself.

have you ever seen any of their "/natsoc/general" threads, no theory, no substance only pics of hot nenazi chicks for orbiters to masturbate on.

National socialism is the K-pop of politics, the total triumph of style over substance.

That fucking Italian building looks as retarded as modern architecture.

>get told Nazism is about race
>post speeches about most famous Nazi of all time talking about two still relevant subjects even today that aren't about race
>"hurr hurr, muh neo-nazis"
kys, brainlet
when you talk about Nazim don't start throwing neo-nazis into it

>You can always synthesize the beauty of the modern world with old ideas and standards.

And that is exactly what futurism is about, taking account history and being at the high of the challenges of the modern era and life. You have to understand for instance than the greeks cannon in terms of sculpture was tied to metaphysical conceptions of the world as a close universe, were the perfection reside in its finitude. With the modern invention of trains, planes, in term fast, the cannon of the " perfect finite world " doesn't match the nature of human life anymore, that's what futurism is about, integrating movement into art. But the simple fact that you call it " modern art " show your artistic illiteracy enough. Despising post-modern art where retards are screaming and showing their feces in "performances" and try to make you believe it is "art" is a proof of intelligence, having an anti-intellectual approach and refusing everything you don't understand as " modern " and " degenerate " is a proof of retardation.

yeah, they are worthless. Every single one is the exact same thing. The same 20 assholes posting the same "le so cool!" pictures of SS soldiers. Its a power fantasy for retards.

>march on Rome
>military takeover
what

Analyze art as art, son't analyze it as power relations. Who the fuck cares about how dominant US culture is, as long as they'll just mass produce shit, poisoning the mind of everyone in the West? Has the US ever produced a Beethoven, a Rembrandt, a Michelangelo? No wonder that in order to find the good stuff you have to delve into obscure artists: there are no quality standards set in your culture, at all. Again, said dominance is based on military superiority, rather than artistic excellence (which is the mark or a culture that is hot barbar anymore).

Repeat it after me:
American culture is worthless
American culture is worthless
American culture is worthless

Once this will get into your head we will be able to talk as adults.

pretty much krauts are the leafs of europe

I agree. Too bad our "fascism" was fucking shit.

Understanding art and culture with cultural darwinism isn't coherent. Cultural darwinism isn't objective, it is a philosophical position like others, and a poor one more than that.

I got the difference between great and dominant part !
But the other user said that culture is not connected to millitary might ! And yet the US who has the strongest military also has the dominant culture (not greatest) right now ! So they are directly connected, no ?

>a bloo bloo, dont call me a neo-nazi, call me by my super cool preferred pronouns!

Also, compare the years both ruled.
Mussolini (1922-1943, 21 years)
Hitler (1934-1945, 11 years)

It's not exactly a coup, but still. A demonstration of force that made the liberal governement fears ofr their lives and in the end allowed Mussolini to take power.

I've said that the quality of a culture is not related to the military prowess of a community. Quality, not influence.
A bunch of nukes won't teach to your thinkers and artists how to elevate their culture through their genius and inspiration: those nukes will just guarantee to whatever artist live in that nation that they'll get more coverage.
Do you think that American culture is now the dominant one because it was too good for us to ignore it?

There is a link between the ability to enforce a culture and the military power, yes. But in the end,you have to enforce a shit culture with money or military. A powerfull and great culture spreads by itself, because people naturally want to emulate it.

true
the nazis were socialists as the name implies
Nationalsozialisten

Not at all they had just luck that hollywood got so big just look at japan with their weak army but anime is spreading like cancer around the world

>that fucking pic

Hitler based his entire shit off of Mussolini

Mussolini said fascism was just socialism in practice.

But has any country or even fascists themselves produced any Beethoven, Michelangelo in the past century ?
>American culture is worthless
It is shallow and with no roots ! And yet we are living in it !

not exactly
it was some sort of manifestation, except that the politicians got scared and asked the police to declare a siege on Rome (which never happened)
at the end of the day the king appointed Mussolini as head of the new government (he managed to get a lot of seats in the Parliament as part of a coalition anyway)
it wasn't a military takeover by any metric, the picture in OP is plain wrong

>produced any Beethoven, Michelangelo in the past century ?

My original post was about that. They did, and that was the beginning of the movement. They were call Bruschetti, D'Annunzio, Marinetti and much more. Read the futurist manifesto, interest yourself to the artists of that era. Understand that we could have reached another artistic golden age if Italian fascism wasn't stopped in its movement and you will get why I'm angry.

Than by that , you would say that faschism is being spacificaly suppressed ? That it has not become the zenith ! Not because it is weaker ?

I did the pic, I will change it then, thanks. Still, it's more close to a coup than a democratic take over. I mean, it's by a demonstration of force that he managed to became head of the country.

It was suppressed because futurism and the artistic movement became taboo after WW2 and artists forget about it. If not for natsoc germany rise and WW2, Italian futurism would have spread through Europe.

Even if it was forced upon us( Id say it filled a cultural hole after the war), ISN'T that in itself a greatness, that it could be forced on us ?

That is a a strenght, not a greatness.

The hordes of rats attacking a lion have strenght, they don't have greatness. Because greatness imply an aesthetic dimension to it. And ugly cultures, no matter how widespread they are, remain ugly cultures.

No, since the influence of this culture is merely material. It's the difference between creating a masterpiece and paying someone 5m$ to show everyone your piece of shit.
It becomes even more disgusting as soon as you realize that everything is designed to fit the lowest common denominator's taste. It is vulgare, and its cohercive power is mainly financial in nature.

Would it be tolerated (fascist Italy) without big bro the Nazis ? The culture would not be forbidden, yet the country it selve would probably be dismantled by outside pressures ! Dont you think ?

Thank you for the civilized discussion !

No even the fat Churchill admired Mussolini, french artist of that time were going to trip in Italy to see the progress there, more or less everyone feeled that something great was happening in Italy at that time. Without Hitler, Italy would remain unattacked because it didn't represent any peril for anyone, given their military.

In the end, it's WW2 that forced Mussolini to ally with Hitler, because better him than the degenerate western powers, and that sign the death of Fascism.

Thanks to you !

Hitler was a Pastaboo, and practically idolized Mussolini: Italy joining the war was an internal decision, justified by the Fascist Party's desire to obtain more colonies in a war that was predicted to be a short one.
Even at the end of the war Hitler was still extremely fond of Mussolini and genuinely cared about him. To him Benito was more of a intellectual model (rooted in action, political in this case), and more in general, a great man, rather than a simple ally.

I bet your experience in painting involves MS paint and kindergarten finger painting

Yea, but you guys were useless as a military.

I sincerely wish the French were genocided during WW2

why the FUCK did Hitler not focus on gassing you faggots

the author of this image tried way too hard to sound smarter than he actually is

Because its soldiers will not allow it, fascinated like they were discovering culture for the first time in their lives in their short vacancies in Paris. :3

t. 1/32 pure blood german

I did. What makes you think that ?

>I like fascist Italy better
k

t. Algerian quintessentially French mosque-dwellers.

I guess Futurism wouldn't be seen as degenerate if it wasn't so ugly in a conventional sense. It generally feels like a bunch of sub-par or mediocre painters and sculptors who can't stand out on a pure technical level and have to intellectualize and politicize their new fashion for promotional reasons.

Why would I try to replicate Picasso? I already said that the guy was a hack.

>guess because of who?

Turbo candy ass kraut

> ugly in a conventional sense
>mediocre painters and sculptors

bruh u wot m8 ?

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>Painting
Looks like modernistic Pablo Picasso shit
>Sculpture
Again, looks like modernistic shit
>General Philosophy
I agree, Julius Evola was a great philosopher but his views went more in line with German National Socialism then Mussolini's Fascism.
He admired the SS a great lot
>Seizure of power
Mussolini wasnt around for that march until the very end
Not to mention, Hitler manipulated the democracy to establish a dictatorship
Outsmarted the jew
>Leader
pic related
Mussolini was swarthy as fuck
>Conclusion?
Rather barbaryan then subhuman.