Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much? Why do you hate nationalism? Oh and please use your real flag

Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much? Why do you hate nationalism? Oh and please use your real flag.

Cant spell slave without slav, im sure they get real nostalgic seeing our commie politicians trying so hard to implement it.

Huh, nostalgia does do that to someone.

what a load of fucking shit
this is like the USA polls that every hates de trumpies!!!!
1.8% chance to win
>wins landslide
Nigger what are you doing
HOW HAVE YOU NOT LEARNT THAT POLLS MEAN NOTHING
Everyone in the USSr when it collapsed was happy as fuck, screaming with celebration because they would get to fucking eat again

The Russians here seem to hate communism but I guess that's bias selection...

*selection bias

You nigger serious? The fucking economy collapsed when the Soviet Union collapsed. It was a fucking hellhole and the west didn't want to help them.

Nah, i hear some say that it "wasn't that bad" but it probably is just nostalgia.
The 90s was shit for Russia, but things are probably better now.

Lel this isnt true. Most russians dont really care its mostly bydlo or people whose parents or grandparents told them that communism was better.

And polls said trump would lose, guess what he didnt. This is typical propaganda to show communism in a good light

I hope you are right, i don't want to hate Ruskies.

its not about communism m8. It looks back to a time when they had an empire and were major players on the worlds stage as opposed to bear fucking alcoholics they are today

This is true, but anyway most russians like how its now.

And the majority of your cuck nation is completely ok with leftist genocide or too afraid to even speak out. So who is a slave again?

But Norway isn't in the EU, i think you are mistaking them with Sweden.

Russia is split on the issue. Many realize how bad communism was but Russia, despite being the most damaged USSR country, was also on the top of the USSR at if was stronger than modern Russia. Other USSR countries were just drained which is why we hate communism much more than the Russians.
Anyway this state of affairs made some russians link communism to their imperialism and national pride since USSR was supposedly their golden age (as perceived by retards).
Does it make sense? No. But nothing in USSR, and post-soviet Russian for that matter, ever made sense.

Ironically they dream of communism because of nationalism. USSR had a bigger presence in geopolitics and who doesn´t want to live in a strong nation?

They're still massive leftists tho.

The Russian view on the USSR is really complicated and can't really be summed up using the memes and talking points Westerners are used to dealing with. Even most ultraconservative and right-wing Russians are of the opinion what happened in 1991 was a mistake.

Its like asking why the southern states wish the Confederacy would come back

I guess corruption makes then nostalgic of the USSR, along with the old people who love Stalin for some reason.
True.
Conservative and liberal do mean different things in other countries, but i guess that could be true.

lol ok Pedro GOnzales Juan Batista Calderone.

Fromer commie block fag here, the economy was shit since the fucking 40's. The only people who ate well were communist party members and they were few and far between.

Propaganda of glorious USSR has been going on for the last decade at least. Alongside with propaganda of multiculturalism - "the friendship of peoples" in soviet terminology.

Russian nationalism is dead today because Putin reformed the whole police department against organised crime into special anti-extremism department that purged Russian nationalists.

9th of May is a cornerstone of this shit today.

Older Russians are nostalgic about it. And who can blame them? Their country went from a literal superpower, to a South America tier shithole, in just a few short decades. Humans crave prestige and status. However, I suspect Russians under 30 don't give a fuck.

Maybe the sad truth is that the situation has gotten even worse with oligarchs running the country. Doesn't mean that communism is good, but that there are even worse systems.

Why do you think you cant have communism with nationalism...

>guess corruption makes then nostalgic of the USSR
Soviet states were corruption incarnate so unless it's the corruption they're missing it doesn't make sense.

>along with the old people who love Stalin for some reason.
Same reason they love communism itself.
We wuz commisars, we ruled half of the world, everyone feared us, we were on par with the US and so on.

"Whoever remembers the USSR has a heart, whoever wants it to come back has no brain"

I think Putin said that

Is it true?

I am not denying corruption isn't rampant in the country right now, it always is, even in the USSR days probably, you think the Russian people could get a break.
So Russians don't care as long as they can invade a small country like Latvia?

What I meant is that the economy went to the shitter when it collapsed. It's true that it was shit to begin with but it went to shithole tier that day.

Yep, that sums up the opinión of most of russians under 30

It's obviously gonna go to bigger shit when the natural resources of your neighbors no longer benefit your already shit economy.

Nostalgia and the fact that old people felt safer during the communism than during transition.

isnt it just them that love communism and forced it on russia through subversion like they do all their sneaky plots?

I understand they would feel safer as i am sure Soviet law enforcement was probably corrupt as shit and would just kill criminals.

Russians are tough and they can survive without wealth as long as they have their national pride to fuel them.
I think this is why Putin once said that Russia will either be imperialistic or not exist at all. He realizes that Russian plebs need a strong hand to guide them and to beat the shit out of the enemy.
Would beating the shit out of Latvia satisfy them? Well that depends on how good propaganda would be. But as soon as Russia stops bullying other nations it's prone to destabilization and disintegration.

they use to be a world power that controlled half of europe
Now their strongest allies are second world countries in the middle east and they can't make it 10 miles into Ukraine

Yeesh, that sounds pretty bad, but wouldn't the people probably support a more nationalist leader as opposed to a commie?
They didn't completely lose in Ukraine, but i can understand useless allies.

Because communism can deliver a higher standard of living than capitalism. And it can do so without imperialism.

I said use your real flag.

I suppose that any non-commie nationalist movement that grows too much will be silenced by the elites. They are linked to former regime after all and they don't want to become a target of decommunization.
Maybe in 20-30 years Russians will have their chance.

That is common in the country with Putin as president.

>desu vult flag ignored
>white supremacy flag ignored
???

>But as soon as Russia stops bullying other nations it's prone to destabilization and disintegration.

That's pretty much every big imperialist nation. See US since 1945, if isn't communism it's terrorism, invading some irrelevant Middle Eastern shtiholes one after another, constant warmongering, etc.

It's not about ideology, in simpler terms older generation equates USSR with simpler happier times with no massive economic upheavals and pauperisation which switch to capitalism brought while newer generation thinks that with no sudden collapse USSR could have achieved better transitions in economy due stronger base (in short idealized china model). And there's also people who equate USSR with International Prestige or just wants some or all of the former rebublics back into the country.

Shit, thanks for reminding me commie, now all of you lose the fake flags.

The Donald told me so.

>Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much?

Come on burger, Slavs are the only ones next to you praying to the Boss's cock for any, whatsoever, kind of dripping.

You all wish trump wash half the Musso Putin is.

Everyone does hate Trump, though. And the polls were correct just outside their margin of error for the popular vote.

Everyone was assuming he wouldn't win because of how much of a joke it would be...

Like your Nationalist Norwegian ass pining for the Danish rather than the Swedish cock to be cucked to, right, trelle.

I know the switch to capitalism was rough, but don't you think your people would like a more nationalist system that encouraged people to embrace culture, unlike the ussr who burned down churches?

because russia lost 300 years of its history in 1991. that's more than your joke of a country even exists

Look, this isn't a fucking mystery. Communists doubled the life expectancy of russian people, quintupled their wages, eliminated homelessness and illiteracy and finally put an end to constant famines. Americans had to rig the 1996 elections just so a communist wouldn't get reelected. Then the standards of living plummeted, so did the life expectancy and fertility rate.

>implying there was ever a communist movement to succeed without nationalism

>the polls were correct just outside their margin of error for the popular vote.
If the people in charge of the polls are so retarded that they didn't base their Victory chances on the actual metric for Victory, they're worse than simply being corrupt. They're inept.

Communist nationalism is more about celebrating about the party.

Socialist patriotism is a thing you know.

The communist system already got people to embrace culture.

Soooo, gulags and secret police would have been better than Putin... But you are too scared to say fuck you, this is mine?

Honestly, Russia is great, get rid of Putin and all of Europe would ignore the manchild Trump for a real leader. Putin thinks we are still in the great game. We are not. Russia is Europe, Russia is great, and everyone loves you.

that's the problem right there - USSR was blowing up churches and subverting old culture with entirely new one for nearly 80 decades there's nothing to come back to it's blank state at moment and new leadership is trying to force new national identity but does so really ineptly/lazily

...

What about religion, you know, Christianity and Islam?
Does your leader simply refuse to embrace the culture that existed before the revolution?

It seems there's a huge influx of /leftypol/ faggots since the tranny board owner started banning people for posting in Rojava threads

D E S I G N A T E D worshiping spaces. Proselytizing is banned.

Communism id de facto nationalism for russians

Because the current living standarts remained the same for majority of poor fags so they dont see any big difference between s.u. and current russia .The wealth is still being stolen from nation by the new ''muh based'' putin elite

Hey burgercuck, did you study your own nations history?

I have one thing left for the US. Your fucking Founding Fathers were fucking intelligent, eloquent, mastermind-level political, all-round genious, political fucking thinkers.

It is. The. Only. Thing. You. Have. Left.

Pick it up or fuck you.

The particular polls said exactly what they were measuring, and gave a close margin of error, considering how different the past election was.

Pretty sure you're the inept one in this situation

I know that people practiced religion at home.

Not suprised to be honest. Not sure what it's like now but living standards used to be much better under the Soviet Union. In 1991 the country went down the shitter.

>Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much?
They aren't smart enough to take it to an ideological level like that. The fallout after USSR fell was worse for most of them than the USSR itself.
They don't think
>Oh gommunism is so good
They think
>Things were better back then

It's not an ideological sentiment, its a situational one.

Well yeah there are many who still believe that we need the "Firm Hand" - another Stalin who would purge oligarch and save the simple folk in fact a lot of Putin popularity comes from this (although even them becoming disillusioned with him)/

>What about religion, you know, Christianity and Islam?

Rifles.

And churches weren't getting burned down.

Russians don't miss Communism you retards.
They miss ruling half the world and having the other half fear them.
They miss going where ever they want*(Read: Party allows them to go) and being spoken to in Russian.
They miss the stability of being insured that no matter how big of a bonehead you are, you will be ensured work.

They are already the biggest nation right now, the damn USA can fit inside, what more do they want.

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>have strong country that values tradition and punishes degeneracy
>collapses
>whole country turns into a heroin addicted shithole
Communism might be shit, but at least they weren't all junkies back then.

The last great Croat. Weep for us, /po/.

>They are already the biggest nation right now

With their area and their nukes, no, they are not the biggest nation. USSR was a big nation like the US (was and still is)

You miss my point though. You don't need a "firm hand", you need people who enable you to say, "this is mine".

Why do people not simply laugh at the US now? Their military, which they can't pay, if China doesn't lend them the money?

No. Because the US says, Bill Gates, GENIOUS! Apple-guy, GENIOUS. They make money, they pay interest to China, they're good.

Putin says, "hey, that company, that sells gas, my buddies".

Honestly, Russian-bro, revolt, secretly, silently, change your world, and get rich beyond dreams.

Don't discuss, if they're nostalgic they clearly were obedient drones.

pretty much the ideology of all vatniks
A shadow of it's former self with not much influence beyond it's borders, with a lot of historical regions lost; it's like saying "hey county of essex in england why brits butthurt about about you have big country as is"

*county of essex became independent
I should go to sleep

The influence will come back as your nation slowly recovers.

>i am sure Soviet law enforcement was probably corrupt as shit and would just kill criminals.

Putin is soviet state security agent and russian organized crime has never been stronger

You are like niggers who think that you will suddenly live in flying pyramids once you obtain certain bordering countries lol
Its really funny because there are countries with barely any resources not to mention size and they are more powerful and relevant than you.

That's a good point. The economic system of Communism/Socialism was a disaster that created problems in every Eastern Bloc nation. But the political influence associated with it was very beneficial. Any country claiming to be Communist could receive military support from a superpower and the USSR could use its influence to frighten half the world. With that fear came respect or at least hesitation to interfere with what the USSR wanted.

American Democrats of today are doing the fear mongering for the Russians. Inflating their capability and trying to reignite the Red Scare and McCarthyism. So that people will think Russians really are a superpower and out of fear, those people will let Russia do as they wish.

Yeah they were alcoholics. The whole lot of them.
Most people got drunk before they went to work in the morning. Only way you can get through that constant communist propaganda and bullshit is with a half liter bottle of vodka under your coat.

You mean as it slowly reforms the USSR? Because that's the only imaginable recovery. How can you recover anything when you have to threaten your neighbors to make them buy gas from you or pay another neighbor to launch satellites from the ramp you built. Or have all of your 3rd world investments embezzled by warlords and terrorist leaders?
Being Russian is true suffering. Your even need a visa to visit ex-colony shitholes.

Russia most anti-revolution country in the world at this point, there wont be any revolution people got bitten in the ass by them twice in the previous century. but there are people like you describe in your post it's just they are not in the position of power where the only real change can happen/ (Putin only interested in self-empowerment and his friends)

but we do not, its propoganda

Listen, no Putin Cold War thought, Russia right now would have made Trump impossible.

You have nuclear deterence, it doesn't matter.

Look at China. It doesn't matter. You need a fucking leader, who doesn't thin you are in a cold war.

You have the greatest landmass in the world. You heard about cultural capital? Did Tolstoy take a piss here? It is worth a million dollars, of you tell the Ukraine that the Crimea is theirs, and BUY every single fucking building on the island....

I am Western. Russia is great, Russiana are great, you are great to work with, great to drink with, have great, crazy ideas.

How are we enemies? WTF?

16% of Americans are at or below poverty line. Russians have come to expect better. Communism really spoils you like that.

t cuck. Soviet was what Venezuela was now.

>Be finnish TV-Station
>Air adds about super markets
>Get a message from soviet union to stop it
Estonians and russians toned in to our channels so soviet officials had claim it was pure propaganda. Of course we cant have have fish and red meat in abundance, it must be a capitalist trick!

Russia is already a shithole but at least you can get meat from the stores now

Russia has so much natural resources, but no expertise to benefit from them.
Its gotten to the point where Russia is literally giving away land for foreigners to come and develop them.

another poll by communists for communists that will be cited by communists in internet debates for years to come

>publish articles telling the public trump is guilty of hacking the DNC for 9 months straight
>conduct a poll on your audience on whether or not they believe trump is guilty of hacking the DNC of 9 months straight
>publish article: 60% of americans now believe trump is guility of hacking the DNC

Ya I know what you mean. People were really lining up for the Purges and forced labor camps. Better days right?

Once they get the right leader, then things will be different.

>You
Don't reply to me or my flag ever again