Russia and China, through the pretense of a "metals exchange", are gonna set up a fuckin metal backed currency to take down the almighty petrodollar. That's why the anti-Russia meme popped up in 2016.
>Putin hates the globalists >globalists get power from fiat currency >best way to cripple globalist scum is to set their petrodollar on fire
BUT
>Gadhafi wanted a gold backed currency >literally assfucked >that's why Russia's been practising civil defense drills >that's why the globalists have been trying to fight russia in syria
The only way to save the petrodollar is WW3. Trump knows. I bet Trump would like to see the petrodollar go too - it's a blight on world stability and the working man's ability to grow. >cozying up to saudi's and expanding domestic oil - gotta secure fuel post-petrodollar >beefing up manufacturing - "service economy" is a meme that needs monopoly money to be viable
All we can do is watch, because this game is out of our hands. However, you can win through a few easy steps:
1: divest from fiat money - a metals backed currency is gonna cause all that QE to come back home 2: make sure you have emergency food, TP, memes, and water on hand to ride out the currency collapse turmoil 3: buy silver you fuckwits - paper contracts have depressed the price of silver enormously
>USD gets fucked >people try to call in on their silver contracts >silver isn't there >silver spikes - if you've got it you win
this already happened with paper gold in a bank in europ - the bank gave the contract holders cash value instead. The paper silver market is more than 250x the size of the physical silver market dollar for dollar. Get silver you fucks. Gas the kikes, currency war now.
They'll delay WW3 until after the Trump Administration leaves. I'm scared how things will turn out since the US, Russia, and China are all Nuclear Powers.
Julian Perry
They're rivals not enemies. The real enemies are the puppeteer Jews who are in control of the dead carcass known as the West.
China has also created their own World Bank, the AIIB. They're taking notes from the Jews on how to vassalize poor countries through infrastructure investment.
Jacob Ramirez
Bring back the gold standard! If it will be inevitable, begin at once!
Bentley Nguyen
This is the only thread on Sup Forums that isn't a slide thread. That said, it's gonna slide because everyone is stupid.
Grayson Butler
Bump
Nicholas Howard
lol, FX prices, metal prices, and energy prices are all fucking fixed and rigged.
civilize or be deported, you aggressive white male.
Chase Clark
If one country brings back the gold standard everyone else has to do so too. Countries without gold are fucked.
James Morgan
You can't trust the asians, they will fuck everything up. Pray to God America can stand up to them because we sure know Europeans are faggots. Fuck Russia, China and the ME apes who want to destroy the West.
Camden Bailey
I barely seen any threads actually discuss geopolitics this past month.
Jaxon Torres
dont get your hopes up, friend last time russia/china tried to fuck with the petro$, the cia launched the arab spring
I hope this Page is right. Then the whole thing will go down end 2018
Gavin Rodriguez
It's simple but clever scheme DESU.
>want to buy silver? >sure, let's write up a contract for 20kg >yeah this paper will let you get 20kg whenever you want no problem! >why would you ever want to collect??? silver is heavy, but paper is light!
It's possible - fuck up SE asia maybe? Then again, western finances are in shit fucking shape right now
brb, gotta slide
Bentley Hall
The West is controlled by Jewish Bankers retard. They've latched so tight if they fall the West falls. You can't keep printing fiat forever.
Thomas King
Good. Paper money is such a terrible idea anyways.
Cooper Bennett
Fixed on the US which is fixed on how much oil it buys. When China quits using the dollar in favor of gold, the dollar becomes worthless. Society is about to be stressed.
Figure out how to be self sustaining right now.
At the very least, buy a few big ass bags of rice, beans, flour etc.
Lincoln Baker
>muh kek >muh digits embarrassing
James Wright
> nerd
Camden Martinez
OMFG wasted
you are a human Piece of shit man
Asher Johnson
they have a lot of possibilities there - norks, south china sea, the duterte madman...
John Gray
They've taken our gold and given us paper. They own the oil companies. (BP = Rothschild) They live in Singapore snd New Zealand. We are just a risky lemonade stand to them.
Bentley Reed
Yet they have been printing money forever. Fiat money will never fall as long as the world turns for it. People only see money in front of them. Makes no difference if it is gold or paper.
Dominic Perez
you're right on user. Figure 1lb of dry grain (rice, bean, wheat) per person per day to meet caloric needs. Best strat is to use that to supplement what you can get your hands on, but keep vit A on hand in case you only have rice for an extended period. Don't forget you might need to cook during gas/electric outages... small camp stove+fuel is not a bad investment
>duterte
my hero
John Jones
Yup, China is smart like that for past 20 years. They've called every 3rd world country and offered a Free Bridge or Free Stadium in exchange for some levi on China having their business infrastructure setup. It cost them nothing to build said bridge and or stadium but in exchange they get to fuck that country for decades! Example in Costa Rica; China got the right to shorelines fishing for 100 years in exchange for 1 Stadium that'll crumble in 10 years :D
Nathan Nguyen
Where do I get silver? Is investing in crypto a good idea?
Gavin Jones
Maybe stock up on booze and smokes for trade as well.
A pot still is simple to make and use. Makes liquor (ethanol) fruit/veg and fuel from wood (methanol)
Colton Thompson
>That's why the anti-Russia meme popped up in 2016.
nope its because they started to actively subvert online discussions on places like Sup Forums and other social media sites.
>Savchuk told me she shared an office with about a half-dozen teammates. It was smaller than most, because she worked in the elite Special Projects department. While other workers churned out blandly pro-Kremlin comments, her department created appealing online characters who were supposed to stand out from the horde.
>As Savchuk and other former employees describe it, the Internet Research Agency had industrialized the art of trolling. Management was obsessed with statistics — page views, number of posts, a blog’s place on LiveJournal’s traffic charts
>At 9 p.m. sharp, there should be a crowd of people walking outside the building,” she said. “Nine p.m. sharp.” One Russian newspaper put the number of employees at 400, with a budget of at least 20 million rubles (roughly $400,000) a month.
Not until you have a good pile of silver and food. Risk: ratio is worse because the risk is bigger than you've ever seen and possibly right around the corner.
Brody Cook
rob poor people, usually all white that they were is sterling silver, visit high end restaurants and take their silverware, break into houses for silverware.
Common cripto is dead, Gov't shills aka Winklefags already hold majority of btc and once mainstream IMF catches up with their blockchain is when all out war/ban will happen on current crypto forcing everyone to switch to IMF crypto. IMF wins too because now they don't have to worry about printing money since that's time consuming and adding more computers online for processing is much easier to generate more currency, you can make it rich right now before all that happens with crypto by being in sync with the market and buy high sell low at the right time multiplying your net at rapid pase but you must know when that last bet is coming
Lucas Turner
Every nation does this. It isn't exclusive to Russia.
Elijah Lopez
Ava bump m8
Andrew Lee
>China and Russia attack the dollar, US economy collapses. Chinese economy collapses. Worldwide demand for raw materials and oil collapses, Russian economy collapses. Australian and European economies collapses.
>Shitpoor countries laugh and cheer. Next year, no gibsmedat is delivered, shitpoor countries descend into starvation, warfare and disease, and noone can afford to slap them back into place.
>Society and civilization collapse as Chinese and Russian bioweapons are released, Ebola claims Africa, nuclear weapons are exchanged. 100 years later small farming communities begin to band together into small nations, and seek to reclaim the technology of their ancestors, but sadly there is no easily accessible oil. Humanity never again launches a satellite or creates a telecom network. Feudal government is the norm.
Good job China and Russia. Just as planned. My children's children shall rule DFW with an iron fist.
Nathaniel Scott
In US you can generally find local coin dealers. Find one with a grumpy old guy that only does cash - premium on spot price is usually 3-6%. 1 ounce rounds or bars are pretty standard. Some crypto might work, but it's risky - cumbersome to use day to day, relies on reliable infrastructure. Hard to use crypto when the power is down, you dig?
Yes, good point. Luxury consumables have trade value. Being able to produce something is also incredibly valuable - distilling, growing things, producing firewood, carpentry, reloading, hunting, etc
Parker Cox
>>cozying up to saudi's and expanding domestic oil - gotta secure fuel post-petrodollar Why not just open the Alaskan Pipeline? That alone could jettison the USA to the number oil producer and supplier world wide.
Josiah Howard
>Putin hates the USA >US cucks love Putin
Elijah Butler
Is this something the elite see coming for a long time? Are new alliances being made to deal with the chaos there will be? Is this something the US and France and Poland and buddying up over?
Connor Taylor
Sadly closest to what is probable. Then again, china may be hoping that by suddenly lending incredible power to the yuan they can internalize consumption. Possible? Sure. Realistic? Fuck if I know.
Carter Brown
China would starve without massive social programs like Saudi arabia.
But then they must just start buying American assets and then we become America's China.
Looks like manufacturing is coming back to the US after all.
But, I live too close to too many niggers. I may run out of bullets
Gabriel Lee
We've got reserves as well as many untapped oil fields.
That and the weapons are probably keeping Saudi from bailing on the dollar. We could devalue oil swiftly.
Jason Brooks
Crypto is retarded at the moment all of you stay away
this is a primer to make you aware of just what petrodollar is
Daniel Diaz
how long until shit starts getting serious?
Josiah Torres
Hard to say.
If Saudis start selling oil for the Chinese yuan, then that's when.
We may not go to shit so fast as America has more oil than anybody (reserves, and untapped oil fields), and if we can't buy China shit, then China can't eat.
It probably won't all come crumbling down in a months time, could take several years
Zachary Gutierrez
We may go through a dark time, but as far as the US is concerned it is probably not civilization ending. Globalized stock market will tank like it's never tanked before, but there's no reason farmers will stop farming, truckers will stop truckin, markets stop selling, etc. That is only if we manage to supply our own domestic oil, which is extremely possible, and we don't chimp out tooooo hard when ~it happens. Europe is totally fucked in that the poor and ignorant refugees will have no more welfare, they will just destroy things out of boredom. The US has a ton of land to make use of, it just may be hard to be as efficient as necessary in a pinch. Most stocks may never recover. Cities will be dangerous and unemployment will skyrocket. But we may have the food/water/resources to function at a less than ideal level, albeit for a manageable time period. It's not anything that will collapse civilization, BUT it may be part of the 2018 plan to retake the house/senate for the globalists. The fear it will instill in the plebes will be more useful than shutting society down. I don't think we'll be reduced to a barter/trade economy, but we may see a ton of socialist progressives spouting out Lies that swindle Americans deeper into the globalists pockets. 2018 is what we should be concerned with and prep for.
Just my two cents, this does seem like a real happening, but we have to think about how to realistically come out of it alive
Wyatt Gray
>Russia and China, metal backed currency {{{ aluminum foil could be used as "money" }}}
Michael Thomas
What kind of risk are we talking about here? Economic collapse or worse?
I don't really have cash as I'm payed through direct deposit, and I can only withdraw small amounts of money a few times a month.
Jaxson Morris
How much silver do you recommend I get?
Mason Perez
Depends on what you feel comfortable with. If you can afford 100-200 ounces I would say go for it. It's hard to say what the price will do once price controls fall away, but 200$/ounce is pretty reasonable. Maybe closer to 500$. Hard to say.
Daniel Russell
Think of it like an investment. It's about how much you want to invest, or can afford to. Prioritize food, water, fuel, and security first though.
Leo White
or pic relevant
Where does someone go to buy sliver anyway?
Gavin Anderson
pic related
Pls explain again for dummies: Why buy silver? Why not gold?
Govt may stop social programs causing nigger chimpouts
If you have a real job, and not cashier at a high end cupcake shop, your life may not change too much.
Big cities will be riskiest, rednecks in the woods will be fine as they've been taught how to be self sustaining and independent from many systems. They've got real skills valuable to people who need a car fixed, plumbing, electrical work. Stock market will take a hit. Peoples retirements will be near gone.
Banks may have to charge you interstate to keep your money there. Small banks will surely fail.
Carson Clark
>tfw you have almost 50Kg of gold hidden somewhere
If you really think the world economy is going to collapse, and it won't, stock up on antibiotics. They'll be worth more than silver.
Nicholas Martin
I'm a uni student in a major metropolitan area. Guess I'm fucked.
Jack Morgan
day of the grill is coming. desu I'd rather have the chinks in charge, they run a tight ship and don't tolerate whiny hippies. based china!
Ian Anderson
that cringe, all they do is shitposting but when you read they are preparing Verdun II ... fucking autists
Isaac Jackson
No way man, just means you've got an adventure to look forward to.
Get a couple big bags of rice. Beans, flour and watch for signs.
Don't let it get you down, life will still bring smiles, and we're all in this shit together. There's nothing we can do except prepare ourselves.
Logan Johnson
Silver is an antibiotic
Ryan Wood
Fuck, you HAD silver too?
Colton Green
Where is it you fucking kike? We will kneecap you if you dont tell us Gib me all dem gold
Cameron Allen
Silver is smaller, easier to divest of and spend. It is also industrially valuable and used, as opposed to being valuable just as silver. On top of that it is greatly overleveraged in terms of paper contracts to physical silver, nearly twice that of gold.
Wyatt Martinez
Will scrap metal be worth more?
Joshua Powell
No shit.
I warned you about this years ago.
China is going to have a monopoly on rare earth and you will have nothing.
Keep doubling down on obsolescence though, surely that will guide this country forward.
Luis Morgan
Are you jewish pirate by chance?
Sebastian James
I like your attitude. Thanks user.
Asher Campbell
If it's silver
Nathaniel Scott
That you stole from pic related.
Robert Myers
what about lead and stuff?
John Lopez
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Landon Gonzalez
wow anons your all retarded. first the dollar won't callaplse far to many poeple are invested in it. it would be like shooting your foot because you don't like the way your toe nails look
second if your going to waste your money on silver and gold it truely is a waste, the stock market keeps up with inflation while silver and gold don't, plus you have to pay a fee to buy them and when you sell it, they sell for less then spot value the only thing that will matter in a real crash is ammo weapons and food (maybe water purifiers as well) in that order most redneck have several guns but not much ammo
tldr: buy thousands of rounds of common ammo like .22in, 9mm or 5.56mm. and perferrably a rifle or that uses them.
James Morris
>first the dollar won't callaplse far to many poeple are invested in it.
I know you guys actually think this.
Just like you're betting on China failing on its own.
Not gonna happen when the west is doubling down on obsolescence.
Liam Reed
the US and china are heavily invested in each other for one of us to fail both would fail. kind of like how europe relies on russia. in a global economy you can't simply pull the rug out from underneath someone and expect not to fall on your ass as well
Ian Ramirez
You think palladium and other rare earths are good speculative buys?
Julian Torres
Buy cryptocurrencies and precious metals.
James Turner
>the US and china are heavily invested in each other for one of us to fail both would fail.
Not when one has a monopoly on materials needed for electronics.
I figured U.S. would get over itself and move forward, but that isn't the case.
Jace Johnson
Doesn't matter what's good for speculation, what matters is what's useful for the future.
One is, one isn't.
Lincoln Russell
Eventually oil rich countries will stop selling their oil directly for the Petrodollar. Nothing lasts forever faggot.
Owen Ramirez
>people bashing crypto think silver is a better investment whew the only way silver is better than bitcoin is if computers/internet go down if we still have online commerce bitcoin is an extremely good bet
Camden Mitchell
can confirm
Brayden Torres
no shit, but it won't be a over night sensation, it will take years and be a very slow decline the US economy will be able to correct it self. the crash you all keep hoping for will never come. but what will come and is already happening is our buying power will continue to decrease and our status in the world will shrink. but it will take decades
Landon Parker
>no shit, but it won't be a over night sensation, it will take years and be a very slow decline
If you know it is unsustainable for future growth, why not rectify it?
Christian Bell
growth is still a thing, its just the economy is a living beast, that keeps changing based on whats happening. the only real certainty is that everything changes.
also crypto currenies are a scam, silver and gold are a scam, find private citizens who own the metals and buy them for spot, both of you will be getting a better deal
Nicholas Clark
This.
Anyone working to destroy the petrol dollar is our friend. It will hurt the USA citizens the most when it crashes but I guarantee it will be better for all of us in the long run.
Buy a couple guns, a pistol and a semi auto, magazine fed rifle using common/popular ammo (9mm,. 38,. 22, 5.56, 7.62, etc) would be preferable.
Fill a cabinet with dry and canned foods. Nothing crazy, you don't need vacuum packed "survival foodz", just stuff that will keep for a while (just buy shit you'll normally eat anyway). Canned soups, veggies, beans, stews, tuna; dry noodles, pancake mix, etc. Just buy a years worth of the stuff you'd normally buy up front each year and slowly use it up throughout the year.
High value goods for the barter economy in the short term: Ammo: its easy to count and trade, bullets have an innate value and will be worth something for your own use or in barter. Alcohol: is dividable and measurable. It's a cleaning solution, a disinfectant and a painkiller. Will be extremely valuable in a barter economy.
Long term stores of value so you're not dirt poor when the economy inevitably comes back: Gold (duh) Silver (duh)
Don't invest in stuff that requires internet or electricity. Bitcoin's value is in the fact that it is a store of value against fiat currency inflation, but it is highly unlikely to be worth anything after the petrol dollar collapse. I don't think people will have faith in non traditional forms of money after that, not for a few generations anyway.
Asher Wright
That was like 2 years ago and Arab spring was a normal Friday night.