Real talk, why didn't historical and fictional generals ever think of this before?

Real talk, why didn't historical and fictional generals ever think of this before?

It instantly doubles the entire army.

It's brilliant.

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What remains left to fight for?

Men are strogner in general and more adapted psychologically to the stress of combat. These are two reasons of many different why always the men had to fight since ancient times. Also a few men can repopulate a civilization given enough women. Guys like me. Who laugh at the retards going to war stay at home and fulfill their duties inside the new or soon to be widows. I do my part do you do yours?

Game of thrones is a metaphor for illegal immigration and the kike control over middle earth.

The problem with this is the assumptions faggots are making.
Snow wasn't talking about making an army out of women. At no point did he make that claim.
This is about survival. He's training people to defend themselves against the white walkers.
It's like training farm girls in Texas to shoot Mexicans that trespass on their land. It's defensive only. Only the men go and patrol the border.

I thought it was bullshit at first too, but it's not, and here is why:

They aren't fighting human invaders who want resources and women, they are fighting an undead horde who want to murder everyone.

So yes, in a normal scenario vs human invaders, the women would never volunteer to fight, they would just wait it out and fuck the invaders, but these snow zombies just want to kill everyone, so they have nothing to lose by fighting too.

The only way I'll be pissed is if they have women and little girls fighting on the front lines with the men. Women would never do that shit, they'd beg to be the very last line of defense and would probably try to ice fuck their way out of getting killed anyway.

Because the men would just give up after the second or third battle because they would get tired of hearing all the whining and bitching that the women on their side would be doing.

Women are the primary commodity you're even bothering with war for in the first place.

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Are you 7? That's the mental age of game of thrones watchers.

Women haven't been the main goal of war for hundreds of years, mostly land and political power.

And what does land and political power help secure?
That's right, it's pussy.

big difference is that the women were fighting to defend their homes, in GoT.
Democrats want women to go fight in foreign wars to make Jews richer.

Game of Thrones is a metaphor for when the USA enters its next civil war and Canadians will march south murdering and pillaging. I for one can't wait.

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Unless there are guns, or they have a huge advantage like being on a wall or something, the women might as well just not show up for a fight, for all the difference they'd make. If the men on their side cared at all for their lives, they'd be a huge liability.

They've got literally half the upper body strength of men. Male soldiers would go through female soldiers like a knife through butter, effectively making the women a delivery of supplies and hostages. I say "would" because this was so obvious to everyone that nobody put together units of female soldiers until guns matured.

You can tell where they've gone past the end of the source material. The screenwriters are dumb hacks who don't understand what made GRRM's work so compelling, which was re-examining fantasy tropes in the light of actual history.

Take Dany's storyline, for instance. It's basically taking the piss out of these stories where an exiled prince raises a highly convenient barbarian army because their culture is so exploitable it's basically just waiting for someone to come along and push a button. She pushes the buttons, but what she gets is one huge mess after another, because their cultures are actually complex and full of people with their own interests, not just plot devices.

Or the big woman. Half the point of her was that she was mannish and ugly, probably with some intersex condition or at least abnormally high testosterone. A woman who fights like a man is going to look like a man, and generally be an unhappy person. It's poking a hole in the fantasy trope of the pretty girl who can fight as good as any man.

And Cersei: the evil queen isn't horrible just because she's evil, but mainly because she's incompetent. Women can be figureheads, but make disastrous leaders. She says, "A Lannister always pays her debts." as she's failing to make a payment to the Iron Bank, inverting the meaning. To a woman, her family's reputation is just a convenience, taken for granted.

Very good counter argument. Il see you soon faggot

White walkers are mudslimes. Its a metaphor.

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His decision in the show is out of desperation, not because "muh equality".

Stop injecting your faggy identity politics into your faggy hobbies.

Women will shoot their own men for "Fraternization", Women in leadership roles will send thousands to die without properly thinking through because of emotional imbalances, Communication between men and women will fuddle up constantly and require re-iteration.

Vietnam used it sparingly and their battles usually ended with females in support roles and males in combat arms. Also go to /his/

We wouldn't double the military by doing that.
We only need so many people in the military, putting women in the military is foolish because you could have put a man in her place.

Criminaly underrated

Have a good kek

Women aren't fit to be soldiers. Warriors, maybe, but not soldiers.

Sure let's march a woman day and night towards the battlefield while wearing heavy equipment.

Surely it will work out. Discipline and readiness will definitely not be affected by men and women frolicking about in the encampment.

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because the marine corps did a study on this and found that women do everything slower and are in general shit compared to their male counterparts

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Military units are comprised of individual males. In life or death situations, unit galvanization (comradery) is of the utmost importance. When you introduce females into the unit, the men inevitably fragment and begin competing against one another for survival, thus weakening the formally held bonds.

The women are going to do jack shit and end up adding to the Night Kings army.

Stupid fucking idea.

Also. A military needs it's solders as sexually frustrated as possible. Sexual energy buildup will allow them to move mountains. There is no place for gender mixing on a real, total war battlefield.

If half of the men die and the women are fine the society can still repopulate. If all the women die then they can't reproduce.

This.

mass mobilization only happened in the 20th century

I think the point in that scene was that his people were facing insurmountable numbers from the white walkies.

Kind of like when the race wars begin and you honkies don't have enough manpower to fight us. Too bad we'll have already taken your women ;>)

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Because women can't lift heavy things across long distances.

Women are basically useless in combat, in a military they are only good in support roles, if that

they fuck shit up. You can google countless reported failures of getting women troops to perform at the same level as male troops. Basically no special forces unit on earth has ever admitted a woman, not because of sexism, but because their physical and mental standards are set very high even for male applicants, so women candidates basically don't stand a chance.

It has not been done historically because war did not look like movies portray it .It wasnt this mass battle of swordsman using their skills on one on one battle .
It was literally front line wall of men vs a frontline wall of men,where mass and upper body strength were everything. And every one of those walls was as strong as its weakest link,so if a woman or several were there the formation would ve broken easily and its not them just dying there but the entire army is pierced and in a flanked position without possibility of reorganising aka instant defeat.That us also why cavalry was so powerful because a horse can overpower a man in such situation.

You were saying?

Every woman who dies in war is a lost generation of children. If 50% of men die but all the women survive, the population can recover within a single generation. On the other hand, if 50% of women die, the next generation will be half the size as what it should be. If your opposing army fought with men and your side fought with men and women, they're going to win the next war through sheer numbers.

>Lanky unbalanced retard is good at fighting because she is lanky
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Heres a (You)

Look OP. You make physical standards only %50 of men can pass and if a woman passes them, she's welcome in my army.

My army would be more efficient and cheaper to transport and feed. Your army of women would die horribly wiping out the bravest and strongest of women in your culture. I'm sorry bro but you just got wiped the fuck out.

>look mom im wearing painted cardboard and the old man with the beard says im a strong character

>two civilizations are at war
>both civilizations have 1000 people
>one sends only the men, so 500 people
>the other sends all its 1000 people
Gee, I wonder who'd win. Math sure is hard.

>implying one woman can equal one man in combat or war

...with your guns...

The side with better leadership, training, experience, technology, strategy + tactics etc.

I mean the Vikings and pretty much every other ancient civilization had women in their military...

But women have grown extremely weak, fragile, and frail. We have plenty of men to serve now, anyway.

And size=/= victory when half your army is afraid of spiders.

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The civilization that only sent 500. As it still has it's women which will bring more generations of men for the future.

Okay, so besides that women are weaker than men (albeit, there are exceptions that can be allowed)....

But who will make our guns? Who will tend to our crops? Who will help keep the families intact as now both a husband and wife go to war?

Look, the is just as much important shit to maintain at home. Therefore between men and women, men are often stronger and more disposable than women, and go to war. Women maintain the homefront, keeping shit growing, making guns, and keeping the family together...

This is how it should be unless you want to personally take care of millions of children while the elderly work in factories and fields.

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The one that sends 1000 people will starve to death, the others just have to hold out

>kekistani flag

I've already won the argument.

You don't send women to war for the same reasons you don't hand a loaded gun to a child. They'll just hurt themselves and maybe a few people around them at the same time.

>have women fight in war
>1 generation later population is 1/3 of its original size and is wiped out by the original war losers children

>The army of 100 has 50 men carrying double because the women can't carry shit.
>Die of exhaustion and disease because women are three times more likely to catch something in the field.

With medieval-era weapons, the 500 women would be a liability. With hand-weapons, men would sweep through them like nothing. With bows and arrows, they'd have shorter range than opposing male archers, and not be able to run as fast either to get into position or to retreat.

It would be demoralizing for the men on their own side to watch them die, and they could be used as hostages or as provocation, since the men would want to protect them.

Bear in mind, you'd still have to feed them, and they can't carry as many supplies relative to what they consume. You'd have to march slow enough for them to keep up, and rest as much as they need.

The country that took 500 men and 500 women would be at a disadvantage to the one that took 500 men unencumbered by women. That's why you don't see significant numbers of women in armies in history until recently.

severely underrated comment, good analysis sir.

>Take Dany's storyline, for instance. It's basically taking the piss out of these stories where an exiled prince raises a highly convenient barbarian army because their culture is so exploitable it's basically just waiting for someone to come along and push a button. She pushes the buttons, but what she gets is one huge mess after another, because their cultures are actually complex and full of people with their own interests, not just plot devices.
>Or the big woman. Half the point of her was that she was mannish and ugly, probably with some intersex condition or at least abnormally high testosterone. A woman who fights like a man is going to look like a man, and generally be an unhappy person. It's poking a hole in the fantasy trope of the pretty girl who can fight as good as any man.
>And Cersei: the evil queen isn't horrible just because she's evil, but mainly because she's incompetent. Women can be figureheads, but make disastrous leaders. She says, "A Lannister always pays her debts." as she's failing to make a payment to the Iron Bank, inverting the meaning. To a woman, her family's reputation is just a convenience, taken for granted.

Hilariously, women still defend them as role models.

No wonder you're a faggot.

Oh yeah, I'm sure that on an open battlefield, the male army will defeat the army TWICE its size! What are you people smoking?

Who manufactures the bullets? Who harvests the food? Who nurtures the wounded? Who takes care of the children? Women have always been complimentary to men in war, you can't send everyone to fight and expect society will magically function in the background.

The counter being that, if you lose, your surviving women are either dead or reproducing for their conquerers...

I get that the average woman will not be as effective as the average man. But, even if it takes 4 women to equal a single man, then the fighting force is still increased 25% by accepting women into a natuon's army.

So what happened? Why weren't there female-only armies? Could it be they were useless?

Are you retarded? There have been numerous occasions in history where numbers hardly counted.
To win a war you need to have better logistics, equipment, training and tactics, not sheer numbers, not at all infact

Except it isn't. You're not even bothering to account for logistics, with is 4/5's of the battle.

It's sad you haven't gotten any (You)s yet because you're absolutely right, but it's to be expected since nu-pol and /r9k/ rejects are too busy hating women to stop and think for once.

And a will to fight. Women pretty much lack that in numbers large enough to bother fielding them.

There´s a reason, why he died one time.

Fuck, I´m happy, that I pirated the shit out of this series.

Time and money have always been better spent equipping and training men instead of women. Women also aren't strong enough to use medieval weapons and armor effectively.

see: Yeah, we get it, "Muh protection," whatever. Except it'll just lead more of them to die because they'll put themselves in situations they can't handle.

because 5 foot tall people are genuinely bad at fighting and in these kinds of 19th century armies all the men are rapists anyway
you need to supply those armies and you need to make sure those armies don't break discipline

put men and women together on a massive scale and there will be rapes and there will be fights and the leadership of armies tends to hate women anyway

napoleon was a misogynist for example

who is this semon demon?

So essentially there is at least one writer on the team that isnf comoleteky blue pilled, cuckold faggot.
Maybe..

>war is won by numbers

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Remember, when Women fought on french side?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War

>so if a woman or several were there the formation would ve broken easily and its not them just dying there but the entire army is pierced
>mfw just realized pierced
>pictures army wall of women
>men show up
>subdue all the women
>entire battlefield filled with women getting impregnated by the enemy after being tied up
um...yeah...

>would probably try to ice fuck their way out of getting killed anyway

Reasons:
1) women are physically weaker and this mattered a lot when you were physically killing your enemy
2) even now when we use guns, there is still a physical component to it which women continue to fail so they lower standards which isn't ideal when lives are on the line
3) as a prisoner of war they would almost definitely be raped
4) human gestation is 9 months where as a single man could feasibly father hundreds or thousands of children in his lifetime. Essentially women are more valuable in terms of repopulation
It's a stupid idea and we probably realized this thousands of years ago. Leave it to post modernist retards to ignore the reality.

What other result would there be? Not even joking. They either get slaughtered, get raped, or both.

This.

>implying I watch the cubical electro-jew

Losing men is fine. You can always breed more. But losing your women means you can't really do that.

I chuckled

Inb4 a scene where a battalion of women save some helpless men and say some one liner about girl power. This season has been pandering hardcore.

>There is no place for gender mixing on a real, total war battlefield
>Total war Battlefield
I don't know man...I run 2 units of wardancers and 5 eternal guards with shields as my main line in Warhammer and it usually works out pretty well as long I can get the wardancers into a flanking position and not have them get fucked in the ass by a charging chaos knight

You people should look into female archers on horseback.
>the women ride around sniping the tiny opposing army
>they get blown the fuck out

>His electronic Jew isn't a 16:9 rectangular prism
What are you, poor??

>80% of men die
>Surviving 20% of men can ensure the continuity of civilization by impregnating the women with their strong / cunning war genes honed through warfare

>80% of women die
>Civilization population crippled in the next generation and is consequently doomed to fall to the next war, no matter how many men survive

And what's why medieval women didn't go to war.

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He didn't double his army he simply allocated his resources incorrectly.

The Spartans, one of the most elite fighting forces the world has ever known followed in the Hoplite tradition and went home for harvest one week out of the month. So think about how impractical that was. During the Peloponnesian war they would fight and die to occupy Greek cities then they would go back home for a week and then come back and have to retake the cities they already had fought and died for. They did it because they knew how important the homefront is during war.

Somebody has to stay home and protect the homefront and it should be women. Of course there are outliers like Cyborg who could be a soldier and there's feminine men who shouldn't be sent to war, but for the most part men are suited for fighting the war abroad and women are suited for taking care of the homefront.

You're still thinking about women as merely weaker men. This is not the case. Women on the battlefield are a liability to the men around them and reduce the overall effectiveness of the army. Men are no longer able to focus on their jobs; they have to babysit, their protection instincts get triggered, sexual competition between men destroys the group dynamic etc..

Because women are next to useless in (pre-modern) combat, so are children, and you're basically culling dowm your productive population for limited gains.
Also outside of some peculiar examples mass conscription was very rare in history, and wars were fought by warrior class or mercenaries. Contrary to popular opinion peasants weren't given pitchforks and sent to die. Peasants were a productive force.

I want to see Sansa get brutally buttfucked by a wight. Maybe this time he'll be taller than her.

Because of the culture at the time wouldn't allow you to have fighting women in a war.

Glad all you goys have changed their minds now though

Yah and then those soldiers die and you have ZERO people at home reproducing new soldiers. great plan.

i always wondered what her casting call was
>looking for ugly woman of abnormal size to play a mediocre fighter with a chip on her shoulder

>murdering and pillaging
>really just crossing the border to get cheap household items in bulk
I just pillaged and raided an American Wal-Mart, my spoils were a BBQ and a years supply of shitter paper