How did this blatantly (((corporatist))) ideology ever gain a foothold on Sup Forums?...

How did this blatantly (((corporatist))) ideology ever gain a foothold on Sup Forums?? Ancaps are the ultimate good goys and they don't even know/care

Their believes seem backwards.

>government entities existing without government
Thanks shitpostralia.

Lots of posters here are retarded

i'm confused about how ancap could work with the people alive on the earth today

seems like maybe humanity could work up to the maturity where it could handle going ancap one day, but i don't think we're there yet

feel free to argue me wrong

So Sup Forums is socialist now? Collectivist? Communist?

What's wrong with corporations? They pulled us out of the Middle Ages bruh

Super easy to make fun of. Super easy to prove wrong.

Have you ever noticed that stupid, idiotic posts get many replies pointing out how stupid and idiotic the poster is? That's how Ancaps get views on Sup Forums.

We have a few serious Ancaps that are genuinely retarted (and autistic) and we have those that are ironic Ancaps that like to read others make fun of Ancaps and we have those that just like to make fun of Ancaps. All three groups make threads about Ancaps.

>ancap education
Did you get your degree from McDonalds University?

True believer here. The free market shall save...some people.

Anyone claiming Ancapistan would be like a classic "utopia" is a fucking idiot. People will die. People will suffer. I won't be forced to do anything about it.

Freedom isn't free.

So you are aware that your tism is the only reason you do not realise that man is fallible and a concept like the NAP therefore not suitable to organise human society?

>and they don't even know/care
that's the problem. you're too fucking lazy to convert people

Only jews would benefit from an ancap society

I think you are the autistic one desu. Did you even read his post?

>select all helicopters

>its only criticisms are unrealistic strawman
How is this not a strawman in itself? The lack of self awareness is astounding

How would ancapistan operate? How would you prevent yourself from becoming a complete debt slave for a paramilitary bank/corporation?
>inb4 we're already debt slaves hurr
People complain that big business influences government too much via lobbying groups but what happens when you remove government outright and let corporations do whatever the fuck they want? Businesses won't even provide safe working environments without regulations to stop them from reckless cost cutting and other kikery. You want threshold limit values for industrial carcinogens? Too bad mate you either put yourself up for chronic exposure to these deadly substances or we'll get Pedro to do the work for you. In fact Pedro is already here, your fired.

>ONLY DADDY GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE POWER OR WE'LL ALL GET CANCER AND BE SLAVES...EXCEPT PEDRO...OR SOMETHING

>non-refutation
>childish imitation
I love winning arguments

Sorry, dude it's 8:15am and I've been up all night. I legitimately don't have the energy to address your points. (This shit is complicated...it's fucking anarchy) I just wanted you to see what your argument looks like to me.

If you ever want to start a thread about any of this, I'll be around. I live here.

Good to know man. I know I came off as a cunt but I honestly want to know about Ancap ideology even though I completely disagree with everything it stands for lmao. It seems like complete kike bs to me

I agree with OP completely. Pic related, it's my twitter, feel free to check it out

the only thing a statist wants is a daddy because he doesn't have one, nor he can fend off for himself.

Wendy'sU she's my girl, Burger King food makes us hurl!

Ancap is a bit too extreme for my tastes, but pushing towards a more libertarian society would be extremely healthy. At the very least, knock the fed down a few pegs and let things happen at a state level. If a state needs help for programs, ask your fellow state. We live in one of the most overregulated markets of our time and pretending "everything is okay because we can just elect a new government official!" is the mindset that has plagued our government for the past 25 fucking years.

But just keep on with the same fucking system goy corporations are evil and want to exploit you no don't promote competition you stupid fucking goyim it won't fix anything!

>that pic

Pretty much proves that the leftist agenda is to be as anti-white as possible.

They believe they'd be one of the few who would benefit from such a society.

It's very easy

>World sucks
>Government is literally supporting replacing me and my family+entire ethnic group
>And literally giving loads of money to the replacing savages
>With my tax money
>I didn't sign up for this
>But if I refuse them, I get force used against me
>This is essentially theft
>TAX IS THEFT!

And behold, an ancap is born

Anything "anarcho" is degenerate.

>expect service without paying up
They are lucky the firefighters didn't kill them for violating the NAP by having them drive there and inhale their smoke

>want to turn all white countries into small, weak, multicultural countries like Switzerland that produce nothing and make all their money through usury
>ideology is a spin off communism concocted by anarchist Jews who wanted a stateless society so they can't be controlled
Nothing to see here goy

AnCaps are immature children.
They refuse to understand how a society can and cannot function.
They are weak and in the coming years they can either submit to the one true form of civilization or be put to death.

It's posts like these that bring me farther into the rabbit hole that is pol. Thanks for the snacks, user.

Dumb frogposters.

>Government is literally supporting replacing me and my family+entire ethnic group
>And literally giving loads of money to the replacing savages
>With my tax money
I've only heard this argument from ancaps once or twice but it is a valid one. But they seem to ignore the fact that big businesses are complicit in the "great replacement" or whatever you want to call it. Corporate media/propaganda has been pushing the multicultural, anti-white, open borders, pro-muslim agenda for years now.
Is it cheaper labor they're after? Surely there must be more than that because most "refugees" in europe don't even work. I know jews are one of the driving forces behind this but they haven't done it all by themselves.

>interest free loans
Should say
>no more (((usury)))

Less unity = less social cohesion = less union power

Union power comes from the bargaining of a group. Split up the group, and they can't bargain.
Aside from that, every one of them brought in getting welfare is one that can
1. Buy their shit
2. Stupid enough that marketing to them is easy
3. Allowed to take out loans so the banks can profit
More people is terrible for the locals and natives. But businesses love it.
And when society collapses under the stress, the management can move somewhere else, and they can just open a new whatever it is somewhere else.
Of course the ancap logic doesn't go that far

It's not about having a daddy ancrap, it's about having brothers
>nor he can fend for himself.
Capable people working together can achieve more in less time

socialism is economic illiteracy
interest is the cost of money
who is going to lend you money if they have nothing to gain?

>Surely I will be one of the survivors of the glorious ancap free market

Ancaps should be killed, fucking kike puppets.

NatSoc is not based on Marxism.
There are no more private banks, the state takes them over.
No private banks =
No need for profit =
No usary.
If the money is loaned to a new family, they are only obligated to repay 75%, and that is payed by the tax payer.
And don't even start with "muh individualism an' shiet".
Every citizen is obligated to take some responsibility for the care of the new generation because they are the future of that society even if, as an individual, you won't have any children and don't profit from it.

>ancaps are immature children
>if you don't agree with me you must be put to death
And you accuse others of being immature children ?

I'm really starting to think that all natsocs here are edgy teenagers.

Please, do explain why

>seems like maybe humanity could work up to the maturity where it could handle going ancap one day, but i don't think we're there yet
That's the point.

Ancap kills all the niggers and pretty much every non-white other than east asians.

No one else is responsible enough to pay their bills so they won't get police protection, fire department, basic medical services, etc.

Do I really have to explain to you why "lol everyone who disagrees with me must be killed xd" is angsty teenager tier ?

Ever pondered why nobody above the age of 25 years of age is a communist or a nazi, and why these ideologies are most popular with college and high-school students ?

We let in (((libertarians))) and it just went downhill from there

NatSoc = NazBol
Brainlets can't grasp the nap.
The only good commie is a dead commie.
Neck yourself.

Oh sorry, quickly read through it and mistakenly thought you responded to the last post.
It was a joke.
Sanse of humor motherfucker, do you have it?

Oh sorry, quickly read through it and mistakenly thought you responded to the last post.
It was a joke.
Sense of humor motherfucker, do you have it?

You simply know nothing about it, as most guys posting here didn't before we taught them what it was about.

If you want to know how it got big:

>make those memeball pictures
>spread them
>people reposts them over and over again
>people are now aware these ideas exist thanks to negative publicity
>we open /lrg/ - Libertarian Right General regularly
>educate anyone who asks
>pretty much everyone that has read some of our starter's books comes out at least a little more libertarian than before
>they realize most of their points of view are based on propaganda and false duality
>they realize most of the time any opinion they hold is influenced by the government controlled media
>they begin to realize the government has far more skeletons in the closet they ever dared to imagine
>they realize that government programs don't exist because a thing couldn't be provided privately
>they begin to realize that most things government provides aren't out of good will, but for the purpose of controlling you or taxing you harder
>they realize most of the problems government pretends to solve are caused by it in the first place
>they understand that all economics boils down to is just a simple set of few universally applicable rules that anyone can understand but have been obscured by state-sponsored pseudo-science.
>they are now one of us

At first you'll think it's crazy, that it's a meme or that we are just edgy kids, but if you care to dig enough eventually you'll find out a lot on how the world actually works, and why within the few next decades private law societies will begin to emerge everywhere as nation states crumble and collapse.

>jewish-people.jpg

so many jews in that image

Let me explain it to you. Human society depends on cooperation. You will succeed if you succeed socially, which involves building up your reputation and credibility and forging bonds with other people.

Lolbertarianism and ancapism screeches autistically at that and claims that all that social stuff is wrong, that to unchain a human spirit we have to become completely unapologetic egoistical pricks, free from society and social norms. The society, however, tends to hurt and sometimes kill those pricks, which makes them screech autistically even louder.

Now, Sup Forums. Traditionally a Mecca for autists and NEETs, who mainly fail at socialising. Need I tell more?

Why is the crypto-commie/welfare queen Rand in this? (((where))) did you pick this up? How in the actual FUCK are romance novels about liberty. Ayn Rand writes only about submission.

>Human society depends on cooperation.
So far so good.
>You will succeed if you succeed socially, which involves building up your reputation and credibility and forging bonds with other people.
Hey this is tribalism, totally compatible with AnCap, in fact the tribe what provides the tendies, not the state...
>Traditionally a Mecca for autists and NEETs, who mainly fail at socialising.
False. You fail at socializing so you want to force people to play your sub-human post-modernist games. No sale, merchant.

I fucking love ancap memes
post em u faggots

Filthy communist pig

I get it, you don't like Rand. But many people does. The only thing I disagree with is recommending the fiction works instead of the nonfiction ones, one doesn't really learn much about her ethics that way.
> crypto-commie/welfare queen
what are you smoking, dude?
>Ayn Rand writes only about submission.
wtf have you read about her? Get a little more informed bro.

>jews have higher IQ
>jews somehow shouldn't be overrepresented in intellectual matters
If I were the kind of dumb kid that spouts Sup Forums memes all the time I would spout "cognitive dissonance" right now.

> everyone else should be responsible for my poor financial decisions

you're no different from leftists; kys.

>high IQ = more likely to be ancap
Why are there no east asian ancaps then?

Ancap is just jewy as fuck. It's the kind of soulless and sociopathic ideology that you would expect from a wandering, nationless, mercantile people like the jews

>be libertarian
>invent this board
>vote for ron paul

>>>watch other shitters come on your board and spout some bullshit

nazism (modern one, neonazism i guess) lacks all personal responsibility
this is why you find neo nazis with face tattoos and criminal records, impotent retards who will never act out their fantasies because of their helplessness

strong free market foundations will make sure that everyone is productive and responsible enough to sustain himself while the nazis end up on welfare together with the niggers
collectivism just lets someone else take all the slack, collectivism lets you reap before you sow anything
and then reality steps in and slaps you into your grave

>Get a little more informed bro.
Ah geez, meathead, always wit this one eh?
>implying no one is more informed than you
>Pinnacle of low expectations
Mediocre betas with poor understanding of human value structures usually want to be mommy Ayn's good goy...Please flush this underwhelming sycophant out of your soft and squishy little head if you're gonna ancap,

This nigger knows nothing of eastern philosophy...desu senpai

>False. You fail at socializing so you want to force people to play your sub-human post-modernist games. No sale, merchant.
But we and the people who are like us control the whole market. It is you who has no sale. And considering that you have exactly 0% of the market (and always had it), one can only assume that you sell shit. (while Nationalism, Communism and everything in between are hot shit)

>Hey this is tribalism
Tribalism is one of many identities and systems, redundant long ago.
> the tribe what provides the tendies, not the state...
The state regulates and makes possible the cooperation of a massive number of people, with some loss to bureaucracy and scale, but massive gains all over.

No, I myself must take responsibility for the future generation of my society.

>Surely I will be one of the survivors of the glorious nazi death squads

They know it and embrace it. They are the ultimate tool for the elites.
>globalization
>free trade
>cheap labour from 3rd world
They promote all of these.

>ultimate good goys
>hollywood leftist
>Soros leftist
>corporations back leftists
>jews mostly leftist
Jews don't want less power to the govt, they control it.

If capitalism is so jewish then why do (((they))) keep pushing communism

Don't ever talk to me or my WifeCorp Life Partner(TM)'s optional pre-pubescent expansion pack again.

>Tribalism...redundant long ago
wew, just like western culture right, toothpaste? Tribal behavior is inherently human and your shit-tier political system don't get to determine its relevance. This is where Marx is retarded.
>It is you who has no sale.
Pic related.
>The state regulates...
You could have just asked for a helicopter ride instead of typing out all those lies that came after.

So it's basically just enforced anarchy where a warlord or a foreign corporation can easily take over and be statist under a different name?

They've always pushed both in different areas. Jewish capitalists in the west collaborated with jewish communists in the east

Jacob Schiff was one of the main financiers of the ((Russian Revolution))

Daily reminder.

>jewish minorities support free market, so supporting the free market makes the jews happy
No, jewish majority is leftist, kill yourself.

It's enforced nothing.

In the ideal model of an AnCap society the society as a whole should resist such a takeover as it's in the common interest. To paraphrase Locke, individuals make stupid decisions but collected individuals tend to make correct decisions.

Easy. In capitalism the merchant class profits, in communism the merchants become statist ministers, they profit at a nation-state scale because nepotism/monopoly. The communist / capitalist dialectic traps the mediocre in it's coils, it's the economic equivalent of Mac v PC.
Pol is about 80% brainlet, if you run a statistical analysis through the API...and they get contained pretty easily with dumb dialectics like 'is this degenerate' The slide threads are as they are because they work...How do you keep an sub-130 brainlet-class user entertained, engaged, and on topic?
Capitalist jews
Communist jews

This method of D&C is sitting right there in the torah, and very few of you are informed enough to even go look. Disgusting desu senpai, I understand why they call you goyim.

>wew, just like western culture right, toothpaste? Tribal behavior is inherently human and your shit-tier political system don't get to determine its relevance
All functioning tribal societies existing for the past 500 years were little bitches of the states, as well as either disaster zones or little comfy zoos for more developed men to observe their retarded little cousins.
>It is you who has no sale.
>Pic related.
Lolbertarians never suceeded in any political, economic or social way. That basically makes you guys a pure meme.
>You could have just asked for a helicopter ride instead of typing out all those lies that came after.
Oh, you probably mean a fascist dictator Augusto Pinochet, who failed economically and politically in around 10 years? You know what the irony is? No country in the world would give me a helicopter ride. But a bunch would give you a mandatory reeducation through labour vacation.

>Lolbertarians never suceeded in any political, economic or social way

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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>banks, media, corporations etc. in which Jews are over-represented, want high taxes
You guys really are the good goys

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Those are still minorities, explain Soros though.

>(((Minorities)))

Communism is a totalitarian ideology that was used as an opportunistic means of seizing power in poor countries. Jews sought power in Eastern Europe and achieved it.
These days it is pushed in capitalist countries to influence social issues and elections. Notice how communists in western countries are focused primarily on feminism and white nationalism rather than corporations and big businesses? People with communist tendencies are also more prone to vote for more welfare and open borders hence why communism is being pushed so hard now.
Communism nowadays as a means to an (((end))) and nothing more. If it ever reached a point where communists were close to seizing power then the media would turn on them in an instant.

Cool. It's just liberalism, though, and the USA is a state. Why do I see a snake and not an elephant or a donkey, if you cite it as /your guy/?

Soros brings degeneracy to societies so the Jews can crush them. They're smart, they know backing Antifa wont bring high taxes. It will only influence the youth to stray from the right path.

> implying Flo is not the ultimate ancap waifu always trying to give you the best deals on car insurance while looking like a paradigm thicc 1950s secret cum dumpster wife

Y u tease my liberty benis with Capitalism-fu? Hnnnnnng

Are you retarded? What percentage of jews you think run those companies? You know there are 15 million jews in the world?

I don't think you understand how US politics works, and as such you ought not _EVER_ get yourself to a point where you think you know.

cor·po·rat·ism
ˈkôrp(ə)rəˌtizəm/Submit
noun
the control of a state or organization by large interest groups.

ancap has no state.

you have no argument.

>city fire department

So a state service fails and you blame the anti-state crowd on it?

What is your statement. Do you claim that the United States is (or ever was) the land of Ancap? If not, than why did you bring it up?

I do know, of course, about the Tea Party. They never managed to go anywhere though.

Big businesses are not native allies to an-caps. They're native allies to statism. Big businesses, corporations, they're part of that elite management class that gets ultrawealthy under all governmental systems. Communism elevates its managers, fascism elevates its managers. Egalitarianism flourishes only within an unencumbered market economy - which is a matter of ripping out and ceasing the things the government is doing, EVEN IF these things have rich corporate sponsors. As, if you look, you will find they always inevitably do.

Not all of them run the companies, the directors do. But the final word always has the (((((owner)))))

Pay the fee next time.

Humanity is ancap. It's the phenomenological description (not perscription) basis for all human value structures. Hegel says it, Marx ignores it. Marx maintains that one can be perscriptive over human value structures. This is a massive cognitive error which cost the eastern hemisphere, in particular the Russian people untold generations of destruction and misery.

Get rid of this direct democracy bs and it's a start.

Like I said, I make jews happy by making the minority who rule happy? All jews I know fucking hate my guts.

>against central banks
>against intellectual property
>against corporate privileges
>against government social engineering
>no hiding power level
>can reason with normies
>"b-b-b-but they are good goys because they don't irrationally hate anyone who is not somewhat superficially jewish"
The establishment loves spergs like Ricahrd Spencer or any negress from antifa. It's the most controllable form of opposition they could ask for. You are literally picking an ideology that lost a historical war and that the consensus of society already agrees to be evil and destructive, and stamping it in your forehead. That's the most idiotic political strategy imaginable.

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Ancapistan would work very similar to modern America, but cut out all the welfare benefits (corporate too).

They've always been here. Ancaps are at a lower, more naive level of redpilling. Just call them on their shit and let them complete their metamorphosis into National Socialists at their own pace. Some will never be ready for it, that's just the way it goes.