You are all missing the mark on this one, none of you bothered to read the directive and use your own brains.
This should be about 1 thing: Voter Fraud (DNC / Soros / Soros funded NGOs). However, as a contrary point this could be used to go after the legal marijuana industry. Which would suck.
>Federal forfeiture of property seized lawfully by state and local law enforcement agencies is authorized whenever the conduct giving rise to the seizure is in violation of federal law.
Translation: This new directive specifically states that any law enforcement agencies can seize property when it is in violation of federal law, regardless of any state laws. This can be a huge problem because certain state laws go against federal law. It basically states that they can seize all assets even if what they are doing is not explicitly against state law: Hi California encouraging illegals or their legislature trying to protect their corrupt voting habits.
> [The Directive] will require that the state or local agency provide additional information about the probable cause determination justifying the seizure.
Translation: If you are a LEGAL citizen you will get due process. The law enforcement have to provide additional details about probable cause to justify what they did. I doubt illegal aliens will be able to fight this legally since they arent protected by the constitution.
>The Department also commits to giving individual property owners notice and an opportunity to challenge federal adoptions earlier than the law requires.
Translation: More due process for individuals (not corporations or organizations).
This is absolutely huge. Why do you ask? Because any sort of local or state corruption/laws can no longer hinder asset forfeitures. The voter fraud issues are going to be handled at the state level due to the manpower required. Any widespread voter fraud (which we know exists) will be traced back to the Soros NGOs and corrupt liberal nonprofits (or PACs) that supported the voter fraud efforts. All funds associated with the individuals / companies involved will use ***FEDERAL*** RICO statutes to seize assets. Bonus points if you understand why. If not, do some research.
The arrests and money will flow, and the organized crime network that is the DNC / Clinton Foundation / Soros will come tumbling down.
The part is just getting started - get ready for fireworks.
Caleb Ramirez
Let me guess you fags can't read can you?
James Myers
Interesting theory. The problem most people have with it is the precendent that would be set, and the unjust increase in state powers in all other matters.
Jonathan Hughes
Let me ask for the sake of debate... How would you react to communists trying to take your assets. Including all of your guns for instance.
Michael Ross
The precedent is already set. Give me 1 other way that it makes sense to take down the corrupt liberal crime cabal?
Julian Butler
State officials usually can't enforce federal laws that aren't also state laws unless they're working together on a project. If the feds are working closely with states this might work, but the assets have to be handed over to the feds. If sessions pulls this off, he's going to have all of soros' money seized. You can't hide money from the US government, other governments won't let you do it out of fear for sanctions.
Grayson Myers
This isn;t about taking away individual's guns.
This is about using state and local law enforcement to enforce federal law in places where it is not being enforced.
States like California are basically saying they will not follow federal law.
The voter fraud is SO WIDESPREAD across all states even if you use every resource in the FBI you won't be able to handle it. This is why you have to work jointly with local law enforcement.
Jack Moore
Interesting take.
I can see with Sessions hatred for weed legalization that he could just go and sieze any legal ops he wants which could hinder the expansion.
I was actually talking to a friend about buying land in CA to set up a legal grow op but if Jeffy Session can swoop in and scoop all or shit I;d think tice.
I;d like to think they are working on the high level you describe and have Soros in their sights... I have no reason to think it beyond them but just doesn't strike me at first flush to be something they'd do.. kind of like you;re giving them credit for being smarter than they may be.
Nolan Anderson
Also note the language in the directive that I quoted in greentext. It specifically grants them the ability to seize assets if the party is in violation of federal law.
Elijah Hill
Short the marijuana stocks until further notice just in case.
Connor Anderson
bump. reason why ((they))'re dragging Sessions out in the news, make him part of the conversation, narrative. could be huge if true. keep us posted.
Nolan Hill
The federal reserve law is only for goyem. >Federal forfeiture of property seized lawfully by state and local law enforcement agencies is authorized whenever the conduct giving rise to the seizure is in violation of federal law. Provide some substance as to Asset foreclosure by the constitutional Fed. As to the Federal Reserve jew. Nigger op is required to (show a difference) by posting this shareblue bullshit.
Justin Edwards
hmmm, thanks user, that's pretty smart. hope you are right
think rentals to illegals can be seized? what about businesses knowingly emplying them?
Logan Barnes
shut up shill. Learn to read. Federal Law, not Federal Reserve. Assclown.
Benjamin Williams
>States like California are basically saying they will not follow federal law. hmm, seize the state of clifornia, I like how you think!
Dylan Russell
Renting to illegals? no, its not required to verify citizenship to rent someone property.
Employ illegals? Very possible, since the onus is on companies to verify the citizenship. The burden of proof is MUCH higher though. (((They))) would have to prove that they knew the person was illegal.
Jackson Rodriguez
It's hard to answer. Third party leakers exposing their true crimes, immediate arrests and trial for treason, no suspension of habeaus corpus or asset foreiture, (although they might be able to do this if they accused them of being terrorists.)
My point is that if they change the laws for everyone, you get more encroachment of power from the government, that is never a good thing sir, as it's open to be abused.
Josiah White
We need to support Sessions... unless he goes after legal pot.
Adrian Ramirez
>shill Please explain the difference between a constitutional Fed and the Fed as of yet.
Robert Bailey
>Renting to illegals? no, its not required to verify citizenship to rent someone property. heard about some pretty serious abuses of asset forfeit
would be nice if the illegal enablers got a taste
isn't there a felony law prohibiting harboring a fugitive or illegal?
Isaiah Ross
We already have the scandal of a lifetime. Organized voter fraud to steal elections.
Blake Rogers
>heard about some pretty serious abuses of asset forfeit.
Yes - but Sessions added 2 provisions to make sure its legal, or at least add more protections. There needs to be far more information included in the initial report to justify probable cause. and expedited processing for individuals.
>isn't there a felony law prohibiting harboring a fugitive or illegal?
Im not sure what the definition of 'harbor' is in that case.
Alexander Lee
whats the biggest scam holohoax or nasahoax?
Ayden Ward
Please explain yourself better. Your last post was talking about the federal reserve, which has no bearing on what OP is discussing. I'm not sure what this current post is asking. I'm only being nice because you seem to be just retarded instead of a shill.
Connor Perry
Ignore him. he's trying to distract. Paid Shill
Austin Roberts
Then declare a new law specifically for high treason, declare its perpetrators as enemies of the state and their assets spoils of war. Civil asset forfeiture has the potential to be grossly abused - wouldn't you agree (or are you avoiding this)
Jayden Evans
Companies cannot be tried for high treason.
Have you ever tried to trace money between the PACs, nonprofits and NGOs? I have. Its so complex it's a nightmare.
This is going after assets, that's how you cripple the criminals. Paralyze the machinery.
Blake Powell
Also good luck getting that law ratified by a corrupt congress.
Cooper Harris
One thing trump excels at is distracting the media. Your theory could be correct and while all msm focussed on their strained relationship they move in for the kill. This would be a seemingly good thing but not if asset forfeiture of regular joes is on the line
Ayden Perry
A lot of Trump's executive orders have been giving ceding decision making back to the States. I wonder if this change is about causing a confrontation between State and Fed power.
Hudson Hughes
Does it have the potential to be abused? Yes absolutely.
as i stated earlier:
>Yes - but Sessions added 2 provisions to make sure its legal, or at least add more protections. There needs to be far more information included in the initial report to justify probable cause. and expedited processing for individuals.
Also - a new committee or group is created to go through these forfeiture cases. I'd have to go through the directive again to get the exact wording.
Do I support regular joes getting scammed? Not at all. But I literally cannot think of another feasible way to take down soros' machinery.
Mason Allen
All good points and I can't argue with you.
Just answer the one objection I raised earlier - doesnt it raise concerns against normal people, like you and me, having their assets seized in the future.
Justin Morales
> A lot of Trump's executive orders have been giving ceding decision making back to the States. I wonder if this change is about causing a confrontation between State and Fed power.
That would not make sense, this is already in use today, it just expands it.
Colton Stewart
Yes, it does. I just addressed that in this post:
Adam Campbell
You answered. Ultimately it would be great to see a takedown of the cabal, as long as it doesn't have the potential to take down everyone else in the future.
I'll reserve judgement.
Joseph Nelson
This is awesome
Mueller's gonna seize everything that anyone in the Trump family has ever owned.
Adam Parker
Keep dreaming mouth breather.
Oliver Lewis
Every board member of HSBC should be tried for treason. I have a feeling this could result in it happening.
Daniel Peterson
As you should. Once it happens I would be in full support of elimination.
Cooper Mitchell
This is what they government needs to takes down people like Soros and the Clintons. It's also the push congress needs to federally decriminalize weed leaving its legality upon to the states like Trump wants. Isn't a bill in the work's already?
Carter Sanchez
>It's also the push congress needs to federally decriminalize weed leaving its legality upon to the states like Trump wants. Isn't a bill in the work's already?
Not sure? I dont recall seeing anything about that.
Fuck off. Both of you. >misleading cringy fucks. See my posts. Nothing but real speak. No answered questions by pop op or the degenerative narrative being pushed by another p.PRTe. Read the federalist. The 10th amendment. Muh weed retards
Juan Sullivan
Excellent!
Liam Brooks
Get ready for lefties to start redefining "unreasonable" in the fourth amendment.
They try it all the time on the 2nd amendment with "arms, militia, and SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."
Angel Richardson
Open question. Does the Constitutional Federal law apply to people or just federal employees?
Lucas Ross
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Carter Murphy
Roger stone has an article on his website claiming sessions plans on using asset forfeiture laws to go after the pot industry
Jaxon Walker
You can't call other people muh weed retards when you sound like a chowderhead.
Make your words into better sentences so we can unfuck our heads trying to read your incoherent rambling. Half of me thinks you're just busting our stones, the other half thinks you should pound sand.
Andrew Reyes
Your the retard bro. debunking the going after weed angle helps figure out who's shit sessions plans on taking.
Connor Lee
Something something sovereign citizen.
something something, constitutional privilege, something something... AM I BEING DETAINED SIR?!?!
Cameron Scott
could be a distraction, by design. you know stone it privy to everything.
Lincoln Thomas
Prove it. Read the 10th amendment.
Samuel Garcia
Read the civil war, jungle bunny.
Matthew Long
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Hudson Price
>This would be a seemingly good thing but not if asset forfeiture of regular joes is on the line chekkked
I consider every move trump plays to be well thought out in advance, he could just be jerking sessions chain, or maybe he is sowing a false narrative to the media
Blake Rodriguez
sir? SIR? Are you not aware that Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, prohibits the federal government from granting titles of nobility?
Jayden Hall
Honestly OP you sound a lot like the fag who was here months ago saying shit like "AG Sessions' resignation was 4D chess, because now his deputy who is secretly red-pilled can do anything blah fucking blah blah"
I'm sick of this "It's all 'gonna come tumbling down" "hur durrrr secretly behind the scenes righteous goyim are taking the gubment back"
Fuck you OP. As far as I'm concerned you're worse than a fucking shill.
Nicholas Butler
Ill stick up for him here... Lets see how this plays out. You are totally right to be appalled by the fact that civil asset forfeiture is seriously being considered. His view is definitely "out there", and presented in a one sided way - but what did you expect from pol? it's just a point of view to bear in mind in the whole discourse. Worth consideration along with all the others.
Dominic Turner
FTR I meant Sessions' recusal obviously.
In any case Trump is looking weaker and weaker to me. I'm waiting for him to make a big move but I'm getting more and more pissed that he isn't.
and it would lead to a quasi-revolution. He could tweet that video every morning when he wakes up. He could red-pill the country by brute force just by tweeting documentaries.
He's not doing that. He's not doing shit. He's sitting around trying to play their games waiting to get compromised or killed.
If he was going to do anything else we would have some indication by now. This 12D chess "Soros, Clinton, the banksters durrr they're going down I tell yah down!" is getting fucking old as shit.
I wish the OP were true but it's just more bullshit. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it just is. Trump is surrounded by handlers now and they have him under lock and key.