Debunk the debunkery

So the last few days i've been trying to read through al the pizzagate stuff... But then i fell over this article from NY Times debunking basically all of it... Why do (some) of you guys stille believe in this theory? Am i missing something?

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youtube.com/watch?v=oBSvUlkB61s
youtube.com/watch?v=A98J_OeCmpQ
youtube.com/watch?v=GvuaFY5uW-k
archive.is/CvWfD
youtube.com/watch?v=IQPy6dz3w5g
reddit.com/r/The_Donald/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/10/business/media/pizzagate.html

Absolutely nothing to it. Completely fake news.

and what was podesta doing in North Korea? hmmmm??

You haven't read enough then. Or you haven't at all and you're just a shill pushing an agenda.

>tfw you'll never have a cute loli sit on your work desk

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Why didn't they debunk the picture you posted?

Wich is why i'm asking you what it is missing ya idiot.

Because the picture is proof of nothing but being playfull with a kid... It's only creepy if you view it in the context of pizzagate

probably, political stuff... but, you tell me...

How can something be debunked without an official investigation?

youtube.com/watch?v=oBSvUlkB61s

yes. In normal context taping a girl to a table is completely playful and normal

This text doesn't really debunk anyting, does it?

-I pesonally don't think it's impossible that they might all fuck kids. I just want some actual proof or actual leads. most of the things in you post the article pretty much debunks.

>defending duct taping children to tables

yes... If the kid would think that it would be funny... then yes... We don't know how close these people are. We know nothing about who these kids are or how he knows them, wich is why people here just fill in the blanks. But that's just not how it works.

They debunked like 5 things. The most low hanging fruit. There is always gonna be some stupid people who add retarded shit like this to the conversation when you do something like this online. I could claim that I was raped by Obama and then it comes out that I was lying. That doesn't mean that everything is "fake news"

sure, if done in a jesting manner... I really don't see the fucking problem.... It doesn't need to be suggestive of anything.... But again, you tell me why it's bad.

OK.... Then tell me what they missed.... LITTERALLY WHAT I'M ASKING.

We don't get to demand investigations into everything. There needs to be actual leads first.

Because OP, you silly fuck, there was never any investigation by anyone despite all the weird fuckery.
You'd think all the codes, symbols and weird photos/videos that came out of CPP and the podesta emails would at least warrant a minor police investigation. FFS, there are stories going back over a 10 year period concerning podestas weird tastes with that Dahmer statue and the pictures of naked kids in his house. But no. Nothing. Not so much a second glance, simply journalists going 'lalala not real fake news'.
If any LEA had put actual resources into this, I might be inclined to drop it because it's a whole lot of oblique connections. But they didn't, and that much weird shit without investigation only makes me more convinced there's something real in this.

It's Occams Razor, the most plausable explanation is usually true.

The most plausable explanation for taping a girl to a table by her hands is WEIRD SHIT

>HUGE FUCKING BREAKTHROUGH
no breakthrough
>HUNDREDS OF CP PICS FOUND
nothing found
>SURELY ARRESTS ARE COMING
everybody still free
>EVERYONE WILL BE MURDERED!
everyone still alive and kicking
>ALEX JONES SPOKE ABOUT IT ON INFOWARS
Alex Jones is now getting sued into submission and humbly apologizing
>WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THIS
because
ZERO PROOF
ZERO EVIDENCE
GIANT CIRCLEJERK
SAGE ROLE PLAYING THREADS
PIZZATARDS BTFO
PIZZAFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

forgot pic, see digits confirm pizzagate is a scam

The FAILING New York Times is FAKE NEWS!

I get where you are comming from. I am a sill fuc indeed. But i'm just saying, i think A LOT of people in the "high-Elite" that has weird taste in art. (I don't remember him having pictures of naked kids in his house tho). And i agree that i hate how some of the journalists try to laugh it off with no real arguements. But this article isn't that. But the symbols can be found everywhere, as a person doing digital design i may have made some of these "pedo-symbols" without even knowing. And most of the "pizza codes" makes sence in the context of them loving having pizza themed party events and eating pizza....

At certain point everyone who investigated it either started to ferociously deny their previous claims, went silent and pretend nothing happened, or just disappeared. And nobody talked about that ever since, seems that burgers okay with not only establishment kikes raping and killing their children, but also with CIA silencing or killing anyone who is against it.

sometimes they're biased and sometimes even false or fake.... But how is anything in this article fake?

Other than footage of people in his buildings saying abnormal and creepy shit, I'm not sure if there is any actual evidence that a court of law would accept.

If there were, an actual arrest would have been made. Even if one believes the FBI are on their side. This evidence either doesn't exist, is destroyed, or hidden, because no one here has it.

havent seen that desu, please link it.

Well, you've been brainwashed by the jewish media. The pics don't lie, also the weird satanist videos

Ehem *jews* ehem

>sometimes they're biased and sometimes even false or fake
they're biased and even false or fake.*

"And most of the "pizza codes" makes sence in the context of them loving having pizza themed party events and eating pizza

My greentext key is damaged but holy hell listen to yourself before you type, makes the shilling less obvious

well i kinda read all kinds of media, does Infowars, Breitbart and Red ice count as jewish media? oh and i'm on this fucking site. So i fucking doubt it, I honestly only care about the truth, but i can understand why FBI doesn't jump to an investigation without having any actual leads.

soooo... ZERO PROOF?

Thailand

Yeah, but so is fucking infowars, Breitbart, dailywire ETC. All media has biases and you all know that

How many times have you duct taped a child to a table while laughing about it? Would this thought even cross your mind while playing with a kid?

yea im moving back soon so you will get the flag that triggers you double

Picture is in extreme bad taste.

They were giving them 4,000,000,000$ because they are fags, just like Obama giving Iran a few billion because hes a fag.

Every dem admin give billions to people trying to get nukes.

Well as a kid i definatly have, and who is to say if it wasn't one of the other fucking kids in the place that did it...

Only if she actually got abused... And honestly so is everything in this fucking place

>I read a lie from a (((news))) organization. That means its true how can anyone be so dumb.

>I read a lie from a (((Sup Forums))). That means its true how can anyone be so dumb.

>yea im moving back soon so you will get the flag that triggers you double
Just keeping an eye on the shills.

For those who do not know this guy has been posting in PIZZAGATE threads for many months and I find it amusing to keep track of these people by their post and call them out whenever possible.

PIZZAGATE has dedicated individuals are on nearly 24/7 watch to spam their shill message. Really makes you think.

youtube.com/watch?v=A98J_OeCmpQ

I'm guessing the counter-argument is that it isn't him?

And whatever is going on here.

youtube.com/watch?v=GvuaFY5uW-k

To be honest, I abandoned the podesta thing myself. Regardless if I thought the shit was real or not, I didn't think there was much that could be legally done at the moment with what we was available if law enforcement didn't act on it.

This is litterally my first thread on Sup Forums...

>feelings
there, I summed up that entire wall of text for you.

If you are talking about the pizza place being some weird pedo den, you're right. Still a lot of weird associations and inappropriate things involving children, violence and cultish shit surrounding a lot of people involved.

>And honestly so is everything in this fucking place
Well if Alefantis and his homosexual pedo pals did not post so much sexualized photos of children on their online accounts this would not have gotten started and they could have continued being pedo's behind closed doors and no one would have ever known.

You pedos got to bold and it ended up bighting you all in your AIDS infected asses.

You understand this whole conspiracy stared by some user('s) reading Clinton emails from wikileaks. They found the word pizza alot.

What could pizza mean?

PIZZA...HMM...CHEESE PIZZA!!!...HMM....CHILD SEX RING OPERATING UNDER A PIZZERIA.

You are genuinely retarded if you actually started to believe in this meme.

>duct taping
>duct tape
nigga what
That shit could be ripped off by a mentally retarded 2 year old with severe muscle atrophy.
It's a fucking kid they like to play around with stuff like that, there's a reason they kid-sized toy handcuffs.

There is quite literally nothing in that article that refutes a single claim. NOTHING!
All it does is call it fake news and yet makes an argument as to why it
Is legitimate.

they sell*

I don't think i'd call it cultish, but definatly a bit weird. Not anything cose to launching an investigation tho.

Okay, but as an adult how many kids have you even wanted to duct tape to a table? Lemme ask you this, if you found those pictures on your best friends phone, wouldn't you be a little weirded out? I know that if this was hanging in any house I entered, I'd likely call the cops and definitely never go there there again. This fucking shit gives me the creeps and I don't understand why you're so dismissive of this. Like it's normal to have mock child abuse on your insta while having this kind of shit hanging in your house.

what I never understood of this theory. why the hell would a company (or many companies like disney) constantly put these symbols at display? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
that guy from ping pong pizza changing his logo after the media attention could be explained by avoiding bad press. I mean let's assume that he's innocent and he didn't know that the fbi report's symbol list. it would be reasonable to change the logo anyway.

I think most of that disturbing images and art groups can be displayed by the strange and otherwordly taste of celebrities when it comes to 'art'

THIS, and i was, i fell for this shit. But going through it with just a bit of sceptisism it really isn't anything.

>archive.is/CvWfD
And I'm not even Norwegian.

the counterargument is that the video could easily be made up bullshit. take some audio of a kid having a temp er tantrum or w/e, then get an audio clip of some nasally jewish sounding guy saying those lines, then play it over some literally nothing video you made in your room with a purple lava lamp and the lights off

Not talking to you.

(ID: +EmcSKz4)
Has been posting on PIZZAGATE threads for many months and he normally post from Thailand (Or using a proxy) but is using the EU flag.

You might not be aware but Sup Forums is monitored 24/7 by all types of groups and organizations and those who defend pedos are usually high on the list for attention.

Just be aware that PIZZAGATE hit a little to close to home for many on the political left and more is at play than you might think.

>all of it debunked
>talks about most speculative aspects
>no exclamation for "pizza related handkerchief"
>or "make an example of suspected leakers."
>or talking about known pedophile D.Hastert going to an "undisclosed Japanese island."

Wtf im sleepy now.

>thing in that article that refutes a single claim. NOTHING!
>All it does is call it fake news and yet makes an argument as to why it
>Is legitimate.
Did you even read it through? It gives much more context to each of the caims made.

I didn't believe any of the accusations until every shitlib media outlet started screaming it was all fake. Now I know for certain there is truth to it.

Also, Podesta should be hanged simply for the art he hangs on his walls. Evil shit.

that painting uses imagery to shock the audience. this is nothing new.
one doctor I went to had these strange paintings of disfigured people hanging in his office. it weirded me out, but some people like edgy art.

You deserve rape.

It's easy to get brainwashed into believing stupid shit.

I know it's hard, you have been on Sup Forums for like a week now? Now imagine you didn't have Sup Forums and you were a "normal" person.

Now imagine you have a job (like grownups do) and you hear that clinton and podesta have a hidden secret satanic child sex ring.

Would you really go investigate it, as a serious professional?

>NY Times debunking basically all of it
>Why do (some) of you guys stille believe in this theory?
lol

>I know that if this was hanging in any house I entered, I'd likely call the cops and definitely never go there there again
Well i'd consider you the maniac then. I would probably call it creepy and ask what kinda meaning the painting has for him... and take it from there... People see diferent things in art and you have to respect that (to a certain point ofc.)

Good goy. Never question authority.

>justifying child snuff art

comeoneman.ogg

>yes... If the kid would think that it would be funny... then yes...
So if a young child thinks your hot dog in their bun is just playing, then it might just be all fun and games, right user?

what the fuck are you talking about

>People see diferent things in art and you have to respect that
Ya guise, RESPECT THAT SHIT!
It's not what you think it is.

No basement in the Ping pong pizzeria, where the "rapes" happend, and where was a secret tunel connecting the pizzeria with (((something))

Police knows not to waste time with retarded shit. They got minorities to kill

>>Of fuck, he does not agree with me.....
>>Where is my notebook with intelligent and racional arguments?
>>Fuck, can't find it.
>>>I'll call him a shill or a goy
>>That will teach him. make KEK great again

How come NY Times didn't address these op?

Can you read?

well i think it's creepy too, and i think they both look fucking creepy, but i dont want them hanged for those facts alone

Pedophile detected.

jesus fucking christ you guys crack me up. is this summer already?
every 5th thread on Sup Forums is a loli thread.
>mush Sup Forums
a painting of half naked grils lined up in a room
>call the fucking cops

youtube.com/watch?v=IQPy6dz3w5g

To be fair, these kind of clubs always have weird fuckers like this.

>No basement in the Ping pong pizzeria
James himself claimed they do, though it isn't located at his pizza shop, it is however located at Buck's.

Only retards believe in pizzagate, probably same people who dismiss Russian collusion. Derp.

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

Return where you came from scum

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Pedometer off the charts. Your days are numbered, sodomite.

>Police knows not to waste time with retarded shit.
That's funny.

Hahaha, so how am i justifying it now? I think it's creepy, but if (MY FRIEND) had it hanging i would fucking just call the cops on him. Tf is wrong with you?

It is always fun to watch the פדופיל leftist show up whenever you discuses their sacred cows.

Your story sure does change every minute, like it did from the beginning

>>Facts work that way

>sacred cows.
True.

The "pizza related map"
The luzotta kids ages listed and then described as "entertainment"
The email saying "sure enough one of them (children) was rubbing my nose at 3AM"
Playing dominos on cheese or pasta
Thats just podesta shit, he's the main guy I'm interested in. It gets weirder when you consider the connections between Podesta and David Brock and from him to Alefantis and CPP.
There have been dozens of high profile child exploitation cases over the past few decades, and the rich/famous tend to swim in the same circles so to speak. Is it so unlikely that Podesta is involved in something like this given his associations with the Clintons (Epstein and the Hatians) and Dennis Hastert (known child molester).
I'm not saying it's a national conspiracy, it's the old adage that power corrupts and these people have been in power for a long time.

Holy shit you're trying so bad to skew my words. Instead try to give me the lacking evidence i'm seeking for the fucking case.

>Your story sure does change every minute
When has my story changed?
Sup Forums is not one person
Did you read the date on James saying they had a basement? Pizzagate hadn't even existed yet when he said that shit.

That is potentially illegal in the USA. Maybe not that picture though.

They decide these on a case by case basis with a jury.

But a man can be arrested for having porn of an over 18 actress (Which happens), then I wouldn't be surprised that police, prosecutor, and jury could find wrongdoing in the possession of this picture.

In fact, saving it to your phone right now could be considered a risk in the USA.

ok... thats also really fucking creepy but again, do i want people arrested for liking creepy shit art? NO

The FBI put out the guide regarding pizza as young girls

Could one of these shills address the podestas' basement """"art?""""

>Holy shit you're trying so bad to skew my words.
How? I just asked you a simple question, can you answer it?

>Instead try to give me the lacking evidence i'm seeking for the fucking case.
What evidence are you looking for? It's all circumstantial with no proper police investigation.