How can you be a christian and be racist/homophobic, after all Jesus preached equality

How can you be a christian and be racist/homophobic, after all Jesus preached equality.
Anyone care to explain?

Jesus taught that sexual immorality is wrong.

Also Jesus had a mother. Saged.

Bullshit, Jesus never had two real world dads, because God isn't human.

Jesus only had one father.
Joseph was a cuck and is basically irrelevant.

>sexual immorality
>being gay
they're different things

And what about racism?

>dead at 33 from gang violence
turned out "just fine"

A first century rabbi being opposed to faggotry would go quite literally without saying. "Equality" is a modern marxist lie.

Sage.

But neither of them were fags.

Because that's not the real jesus, that's the devil trying to fool you.

The real Jesus was a small business owner who knew that you had to take care of all of your own problems before you could help anyone else.

Joseph was a huge cuck which makes Christianity a cuck religion. Also Jesus was arrested for nigger behavior and executed.

Christianity is a pathetic cucked religion. The Old Testament is sensible and viable, but the New Testament is unusable garbage. For why the teachings of Christ could never work in practice, just take a look at our society. It's a cosmopolitan, egalitarian society just like the values of Jesus and we are going to collapse within 20 years.

that sound like
>that's not real socialism

Well I don't know, maybe THE LORD HIMSELF SAID HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DISGUSTING ACT AND MUST BE PUNISHED
ITS NOT LIKE HE ERADICATED A CITY FULL OF DEGENERATE FAGGOTS
FYCKUNG FAGGOTS BURN IN HELL

Hey look its the pagan faggot spreading lies agian

Bashed your head son.

How do you know that God did that, though? Is your source the book of ancient stories passed from ruler to ruler for thousands of years and translated many times?

Because God speaks through his modern prophet, Thomas S. Monson, and confirms the obvious fact that faggotry is morally wrong.

Stupid bait thread from antifags. Saged

Yes the holy scriptures
If any man has ever dared to manipulate the holy word,his punishment will be severe and great tenfold

surely because Jesus said no racism, I can't defend my people and my wife's butthole from Jamal's cock
Fuck off and saged

Oх нихyя ceбe. Ктo этo?

Did not expect to see that here. Okay then. Wow. Holy shit, there are mormons on pol.

Jesus got nailed to a cross, faggot.

How do you know that this punishment takes place? Is your evidence the same thousands-year-old book of ancient stories translated many times?

Do you not realize that the nature of language means that your second statement would logically apply to anyone translating the book to a second language, which will inevitably have differences from the first?

How do you explain this though OP?

It's the truth, Kim. Accept modern revelation and everything makes sense.

Fuck off kike shill!

Homos go to hell, get over it. IF you want a homo religion go to islam, they all fuck each other in the bathroom.

vegetable

Talks about kindness between humans

slide thread sage but here fuck you

>Jesus can save even a black
>That means we cant speak out against white genocide

Who's the second one? Cause Joseph was a cuck.

Christianity isn't concerned with equality in life. Its concerned with saving your soul and things that are good for your soul. It does not claim "Follow this and your life will be good."
>one in Christ Jesus
Paul still sent the slave back to his owner. End of story.

>It's the truth, Kim. Accept modern revelation and everything makes sense.
>modern revelation:
>reading golden tablets in a hat or something
Wow that totally makes... 0 sense

Easy! You just define truth as racist or homophobic or islamophobic! These terms didn't exist 100 years ago!

>How do you know that this punishment takes place?
I trust the word of the father

>is your evidence the same thousands-year-old book of ancient stories translated many times?
Yes,and it hasn't change much
Mind you there is quite a few Bibles,they all should be read and compared to each other.

>Do you not realize that the nature of language means that your second statement would logically apply to anyone translating the book to a second language, which will inevitably have differences from the first?
No
Its one thing to translate it,it may change language,thus slightly altered,but the message is still the same.

its another thing to knowingly and deliberately remove/add content on purpose (like the satanic Catholics)

>american progressive "christianity"

There's nothing degenerate or evil about homosexuals.
>pic related
You retards are getting upset over nothing, like usual

"If Jamal rapes your elder daughter, let him rape your younger daughter, too"

-- Your Bible interpretation

>Jesus preached equality

Equality of what?

Shut up faggot. Disgusting. Also I like how you're trying to hide behind that flag to preach bullshit

>after all Jesus preached equality

You didnt read Bible didnt you?

>I trust that this book has not changed much in these thousands of years
Good for you, I prefer actual evidence over being told to trust a book you cannot truly source.

>translating it will slightly alter it
So you accept that the changing of language introduces inevitable changes from the original, I see.
If it is altered, it is no longer directly the word of God. You can say "good enough" but with each progressive translation, you stray farther from the original, which you have no way of knowing was valid as word from a God to begin with.

Heresy in and of its own rights, saracen. The homosexuals and the darker skinned men, amid the Jew, halt our path to Jerusalem and salvation.

>says the fag hiding behind a flag
Sad.

What's important is accepting his loving salvation, not what exact word is written Down.
The book may have changed but the message is still loud and clear.


Judgment is near,repent brother!

The story of Babel could not be clearer. Its Gods will that the races and nations remain separate.

Also, lets read what Deuteronomy 28 has to say about Gods curse upon man when he doesnt follow His word.

43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail.

49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young.

>literally: if you dont try to be virtuous, you get replaced by muslims.

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot.

>Homosexuality as a concept did not exist until the late 1800s
>Somehow you're supposed to translate words written by a man 2000 years ago to mean homosexual

Either Paul was the first person to ever devise a concept of sexual preference, or your NIV is a shitty translation.

How can you be Christian and eat shrimp? Anyone care to explain?

Great, now that you've covered Christianity, it's time for you to find some ISIS heathens and enlighten them. Go get em, tiger.

The issue with you saying that is that your original post which I had contention with over here was you specifically referencing the written word that the lord specifically did this one thing and that the other thing is disgusting by principle.

And now after we walk through the logic, you say "oh well you just have to accept his love of course, don't worry about the specific words."

You can't have it both ways:
1)You say the words matter to a book that you yourself admit must necessarily not be the word of god unaltered because of the logistics of the process of the many translations it has undergone. You said this initially.
or
2)You say now that it is just about accepting his love.
maybe more reasonably,
3)You don't really know about the nature of the afterlife or what dictates where or what happens to us after death, if anything, and this is a convenient answer for you and countless others.

No way.

i guess the more accurate translation would be man having sex with another man but translating it as homosexual isn’t necessarily wrong.

So did Mosis
And he betrayed the father that raised him.

>"I guess the more accurate translation would be"
>"I guess"
>there are actually people base their world views on shoddy translations of ancient storybooks

why do people group all the 'oppressed' groups together as if they're friends and hang out?

blacks hate gays. go into any backstreet in Harlem or The Bronx and you'll find a black grandma that hates fags even more than the average poster here.

>go into any backstreet in Harlem or The Bronx and you'll find a black grandma that hates fags even more than the average poster here.

XD

You are retarded.

A centurion approached Jesus to ask him to please heal his male lover back home. Jesus was touched by his adoration and healed him. Simple.

Matthew 8:5-13

My statement wasn't wrong. Many(!) people base their worldviews on shoddy translations of ancient storybooks. Those people vote in droves in my country.

What shoddy translations? Bible is clear about homosexuality if that’s what you mean.

Im a Christian. And I don't care if you are a faggot or not. Honestly do your own thing man. Just don't be one of those annoying cunts that puts the LGBT flag on religious statues

gotta love it how you fags always twist everything you quote. That wasn't a fucking "male lover" but a house servant you fucking idiot

You cannot call yourself a Christian if you in any way support homosex. No wonder no one likes Christianity anymore, it's full of weak willed live and let live faggotry that is destroying our nations.

Clear according to your shoddy translations yes. Could you provide me with the original source document when it was first recorded to prove that wrong?

>Im a Christian. And I don't care if you are a faggot or not. Honestly do your own thing man.

You're no fucking christian you fucking infidel

The word used for "servant" was "pias," which almost always has a sexual component. In that society, you couldn't just have a "husband" but you could have a male lover that would be given the class of servant. That's why he's referred to as "valued highly."

>jesus turned out fine

>im a christian

>but The Lords word doesnt matter lol xD

and this piece of information comes from an user in America. Yeah, if that was the case and Jesus supported homosexuality I'm pretty sure I would've heard of it from someone more famous and educated than user no.134420104

At the age of 33 Jesus was single with no job

pretty rough when you get owned by some random dude in Sweden...

His two dads werent fucking tho.

You say that like you can prove that the bible is even the actual word of God and not just ancient desert stories written from a time where people believed in that kind of thing more readily.

the most used modern English bible(KJV) was translated from the original Hebrew old testament, and the original Greek new testament
sorry bub

And you know that this Hebrew old testament was the word of God and not translated or changed before that because...?

Faith, right? You're going to say faith soon I reckon. Can you do better than faith?

>my religious book is true and rest are mythology

the original word used was ἀρσενοkοίτης which translates to a male engaging to same sex sexual activity. it’s not a shoddy translation and if you really do think irrationally think so there’s still Romans 1:26-32

this is your fucking problem not ours. You're the ones that took Jesus and the Bible as a topic of discussion relating it with bullshit that our Christ had homo parents. Well Bible says otherwise and when we show you that then you just say "well bible is just made up desert stories and blah blah.." fucking stop fags.

Bible is against you so stop trying to twist. And if Bible isn't even real WHY THE FUCK YOU CARE WHAT IT SAYS? Fag apologetics are just the best entertainment man...

You better be fuckin' careful son. Jesus died for us cucks. Prepping bulls is in one of the lost gospels. I don't want to hear your bullshit.

I see what you are trying to say
>its slightly altered thanks to translation & time,so its not the world of god anymore!

I want to lewd christ-chans innocent benis

I prefer to lead by example and follow the bible, I know homosexuality is wrong but I'm not going to be rude to some dude who has never caused me any harm

Christians are so retarded they can't even understand a single word of the bible on their own. Ever been to church? Ever seen the videos christcucks on Sup Forums link? The religious head figures spend so much effort and time explaining such simple words and concepts because that's how retarded christcucks are. This allows them to distort anything they want to have complete control over the christcucks.

>you're the ones talking about Christ's homo parents
Not at all, you can look at my posts in this thread. On the contrary, you are the ones who are claiming the bible is the unaltered word of God to justify that it is immoral to engage in homosexual behavior. You are making a claim, and providing no verifiable proof. This is simply a reminder that your evidence is inadequate.
>why do you care?
because you people vote with delusions informing your worldviews and while i doubt I'll change the mind of someone I'm arguing with, hopefully others will see the logic I presented and understand.

If it is altered due to translation and time then yes, it is no longer the word of God unaltered. If you do not have the original that you can reference then you have no way of knowing how far from the original document modern translations are.

dead sea scrolls line up with the modern Hebrew old testament
many other ancient hebrew manuscripts line up with the modern Hebrew new testament
the Septuagint is also virtually identical to the Masoretic text

I'll give you a quick rundown on the old testament though since you seem confused
>Septuagint
The Septuagint is a Greek Old Testament translation. It's called "The Septuagint" Seventy because it took 70 years to make. It's a translation of the entire Old Testament plus many oral traditions, and would have been the Old Testament used by Greek speaking Jews at the time of Jesus. Regarding the Old Testament, there are two main versions other versions, like the Dead Sea Scrolls, are generally only consulted for scholarly purposes. The two main versions are the Septuagint, and the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic Text is a Hebrew Old Testament. The Masoretic text was completely translated by the King James translators and is the underlying Hebrew text used by most Protestants. Orthodox, however, use the Greek septuagint. Catholics use a mix of the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint.
>Vulgate
St. Jerome completed the Vulgate sometime in the 3rd century. It's a Latin translation of the Greek text, and was the only official Bible used by Catholics for a long time. The Douay Rheims Bible, which was the only official Catholic Bible in English for a while, was a translation of the Vulgate.

the Bible hasn't been slightly altered, if you were a Christian(which I don't doubt you are) you would realize God would have made his Word translatable into any language.
God bless.

Are there any secular reasons against gay marriage?
I think motherly role in raising a child is of vital importance, but I still think as long as state exists, within its framework all people should be treated equally.

>God
>Can be described by earthly concepts

And you know that these dead sea scrolls are unchanged from the original source document because...?

Did you think that part would change?

>oral traditions
which are even more fluid that written translations are.
>many large sects of christianity cannot agree on which version to use
only further proving my point

Faith?

why would you need secular reasons if you're a Christian? trust in God's wisdom and push away secularism.

I'm not.

>just fine
the dude got fucking crucified

Jesus was wrong. Some races are better than others.

Equality is a fairy tale, much like Jesus

If a language was created or existed that did not have words for every single concept in the bible, then that language could not accommodate for God's word. That's just basic logic. It sounds flowery to say "and no matter what God made sure that he could do it in any language" but that's easy to disprove if you think critically.

>turned out just fine
You mean he created a cult, got arrested by the authorities and sentenced to death?

Nope
The teachings,commandments,tales and prophecies are all still there,intact.
By all means,it's still the word of god,for his teachings are still there and clear as water.
Who told you that? Sup Forums?

I love it when shitheads say
>evolution is true
>all races are the same