How would interplanetary politics work? If or when we start colonizing our own Solar System?

How would interplanetary politics work? If or when we start colonizing our own Solar System?
>inb4 the obvious Mars does a 1776 trope

I'm not sure there would really be a need if we're talking interstellar. You'd only want to communicate and share discoveries with each other. Maybe there would be an alliance in case aliens attack. There should be a central body governing whether colonies should spread to new planets, but that would be delayed in communication by years and be unfeasible.

Mars would be governed by the colony's sponsoring country until they become autonomous.

maybe like in "The Expanse"

The elites abandon plebs on Earth.

Eventually the species diverges and splits.

We should never go interstellar before we solve the communication problem.

humanity won't leave earth. the Inuit word for "earth" roughly translates to "grave" (they couldn't dig graves through the permafrost so they'd send the bodies out to sea)

What the fuck do eskimos have to do with anything?

no one is talking about interstellar

He is from Alaska maybe, maybe they are forced to learn this minority culture in schools.

I suppose Mars will be better as it ill be very militarize and full of soldiers, ecologist, engineers, scientist, ext.(Right-wing and high intellegence.)

If it remains like that for a good while, I expect Earth to lost the war against Mars. It will be American Independence all over again.

All the intelligent people will go off world and the rest of us will stay behind to kill each other.

Our solar system do not learn to be multicultural yet,it will be a huge change, and jews will be in the center of it...

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It would work similar to the The United States. Each world is an independent which can secede from the Republic if it wishes. They're largely autonomous with the sole purpose being to protect trade between them and perhaps some external threat. Each world can likely protect their own trade lanes so there is little reason besides external threat (Alien or Human British Empire in space).

Most of the people that actually leave to settle and startup new worlds would be K selected for sure. Question will be how much brain drain happens on the planet if that becomes a reality.

First outworld colonies are going to be started by private enterprise.

Mark my fucking words.

Forget the ethnostate, say hello to the ethnoplanet.

There's simply no probable method of keeping planetary or lunar colonies loyal to Earth politics for one simple reason:

Unless faster-than-light-travel becomes feasible, you're going to have a hard time communicating orders and gathering news, let alone enforcing Terran laws on these colonies.

Initially these colonies will be rather backwards. Despite having highly intelligent and trained astronauts, and the natural selection filter against stupid people that space travel requires, the reality of colonizing a new (habitable, Earth-type) planet is the same as it was in the old-west: the first few generations are going to live like rural pioneers. You may even be hard-pressed to hear back from the first generation, because they'd be too busy farming, and rearing kids to send back reports, or perform your experiments.

So, it will be a few generations before their society is up-to-snuff to begin incorporating all that futuristic tech they were sent with (at least to Earth standards).

Once they're ready to start contributing advancements and resources back to Earth, a timer has started before their isolated culture becomes independent of ours, and talk of independence begins.

So in short - interplanetary politics will be like raising kids. Messy, expensive, and they're too stupid to be of much value, until they're smart enough to leave.

They would probably secede if there is not a strong sense of Nationalism and brotherhood binding them to somewhere on earth.

two or three generations before earth is forgotten really or a pipe dream

Mars will be the first place ever to have a violent conflict that isn't on Earth. Screencap this post. Someone will be find it in a century or so.

It IS named after the God of War, after all.

Venus is much more likely to be the only planet remotely possibly besides maybe the moon.

The outer space treaty basically makes space ancap

Venus? You mean the planet with insanely high atmospheric pressure, in which sulphuric acid rains all the time and is several hundred degrees celsius hotter than here all the time?

For fuck's sake, not even our toughest robots could withstand being in the Venusian surface for more than a few minutes.

If anything we should deport all our niggers there.

Will not work at all. There's a shitload of IMPOSSIBLE
> technological barriers
> physical barriers

Plus on top of that an even bigger shitload of NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE barriers of the samw kind. To be able to overcome these we as a civilization, would need to have so much excess ressources that we could fully focus on this space stuff. Which might happen one day but is still very unlikely (fossil fuels running out, starvation, shit tier third world countries, still wars going on).

US states can't secede so I don't get your analogy

How the fuck am I supposed to play vidya games without massive ping if I'm trying to play with someone on Earth?

They can and did hence a war.

he bought into the floating city meme

No floating cities but time and perhaps something to alter it over time. Seems like the best shot.

You don't and have a LAN party with your fellow colleagues on mars.

Well, it would start with colonization obviously. Eventually colonists would feel like they were giving too much tribute in resources back to the home planet, and resentment would build. Eventually there would be a push for indepedence, maybe armed conflict. And depending on how fast mars grows, it could maybe even rival earth as a superpower in the solar system. Their strategic proximity to the asteroid belt would provide them with superior resources with cheaper travel/shipping costs, and their lower gravity would provide a cost benefit when it comes to sending things from the surface into zero-g. Although those maybe heavily offset by the fact mars isn't easily habitable. But there are 2 possible great equalizers in the cost-efficiency of civilization on mars versus earth, and thats either biological adaption to the environment via genetic engineering or accelerated evolution, or terraforming mars.

Will most likely end out being some kind of independant state like USA before. In the beginning will start as a place with colonies from different states, since terraforming will take some time and they will need ressources anyway. Will probably end up with different states which are connected to some different states from Eearth, I don't believe that whole Mars will be unified and together oppose Earth.
Althought I don't see a reason to colonize Mars yet, it is way too expensive for what we will get in return.

Earth will never be able to focus on a project this big while we have over-breeding violent thieving non-contributors such as niggers and muslims.

You don't. Thus the cultural paths diverge leading to two unique civilazations.

Armed conflict in space is a very bad idea. It'd be so easy to annihilate anything with just kinetic bombardment or even relativistic bombs in the future.

Only in the same way that I can fly, only I'll fall shortly afterwards

>he bought into the floating city meme
It could make sense as some sort of fuel station, people working in a floating outpost in Venus, gathering chemical compunds from its atmosphere for any passing space ship to refill its reserves.

As a space private enterprise sounds very fascinating and you'd probably get to make tons of money as it'd probably be a very well paying job, but to live all your life inside some aircraft you'd get some horrible cabin fever plus the risk of your ballon or whatever eventually decaying, popping and everyone inside dying. The atmosphere is fucking corrosive.

So, terraforming or climate engineering? There's some ideas on how we could do it in Mars, but Mars has a far more friendly environment for us than Venus ever will.

Sure, as a fuel station and a research station at best. There would be no other basis for economy, since we can't access resources on the surface. The tech needed to make Venus livable will be in the realm of science fiction long after everyone in this thread is dead.

>there's no such thing as stupid ques--

>ooga booga where da green wimen at

My guess is it might become more viable due to the atmosphere becoming profitable. Used as a fuel source or in the production process. Usually we stumble across something in the process that benefits us like say viagra.

This is Sup Forums asshole

Well yes, the problem with making speculations of what would happen is that the market is the most chaotic and unpredictable thing, new scientific discoveries are made all the time and existing ones are combined in the most innovative and unimaginable ways. There's also the space mining thing, though it has the reputation here of being a meme that will never work or be profitable. Same thing they said about the Wright brothers.

Tomorrow they could bio-engineer some (micro-?)organism that feeds on the harmful gases of its atmosphere, returns oxygen and nitrogen and reproduces at an insanely fast rate and we could pump the atmosphere full of it and make it habitable in a few decades, who knows.

This is why central planning is cancer, it prevents people from trying new things. The old political motto: "If it moves, tax it; if it keeps moving, regulate it; and if it has stopped moving subsidize it."

Shut it or I'll fuck your open asshole