How is the US so nationalist/patriotic when half the country basically hates the other half? It makes no sense

How is the US so nationalist/patriotic when half the country basically hates the other half? It makes no sense.

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Partisian politics have gotten out of control

How is Sweden so anti-nationalist when half the country loves the other half?

we should have had another civil war in the 1960's to settle this then.

Because only half of the country is nationalist and patriotic, you tard.

The one on the left would never say that.
Infact the most common opinion is hatred for this country.

Why is the muslim nation such a fucking joke, when half the population chooses to blows itself up rather than go on living?

This, basicaly.

Liberal dependency is a virus.

Because Lincoln.

The whiteman way, when no war happening, we fight ourselves to occupy ourselves

We don't really hate eachother. The media portrays a fractured nation when in reality people are pretty candid about their politics. Fake news has destroyed many American's sense of reality. If you don't understand how manipulative jews are at this point, I really don't know what else to tell you.

>Almond activated

The more time goes by, the less affection I feel for this country. It's a deracinated, artificial nation which has almost single-handedly enabled the destruction of the European race.

We're no doubt founded on these principals patriotism and nationalism with an ethnic identity even, its just a staggering amount of people interpret individualism as total utilitarian collectivism.These ideologies often conflict of course, the old adage: "There are two types of people in the world, people who want to be left alone and those who wont leave them the fuck alone" holds very true here. Even the most batshit liberals have a sense of patriotism unlike anything found anywhere else in the world. That isn't to say they're "nationalistic", its just they recognize their status as Americans and their somewhat elevated status as such, whether it be in their own constructs of "privilege" or whatever.

Both sides see the other actively attempting to burn down the statutes that founded the nation. Of course, the Liberals are the one's trying to re sculpt the nation and just think a nanny-state was implied in the Constitution and that Free Education, Healthcare, Money, isn't exactly what the founders warned about when it came to the unwashed masses voting themselves the treasury. This is because they're not doing it out of "greed", whatever that means.

The true hate comes from the Left. As stated before, the right, for the most part, wants to just be left alone. They couldn't be bothered to "hate" the other side. Of course we're labeled the one's who truly hate others, when this just simply isn't the case for the most part. The most toxic vitriol is spewed from the Left simply for the right attempting to live life on their own terms. I dont hate the Left. Many of these people genuinely want good to happen. They're just misguided. A lot of them however wont even see reason, no matter how simply you explain it. Its a shame but that doesn't stop me from trying.

Y u no love Jewnited Snakes of Americuck goy?

99% of any country is normal. The media shines a spotlight on the 0.5% of extreme left wingers and demonises the 0.5% of extreme right wingers to push their agenda

Because stupid people rather be told what they want to hear then challenged to defend their positions. Literally noone backs up their arguments with proof or numbers. Literal shit cucks on both sides. Everyone is concerned with MY TRUTH, and no one cares about THE TRUTH, which should be the FIRST priority.

that's because there's no clear enemy for the people to hate right now. 9/11 wore off years ago, especially when all of the blame was laid on non-state terrorist groups spread throughout.

Give the american people a clear enemy to hate and they'll embrace the hate together. Politicians are still trying to force feed Russia, but that's really just beating a dead horse.

Old news. I used to be the "murica fuck yeah" guy before I started coming here. Now I know it's a country that stabbed its founders in the back and is rapidly replacing their decendants. America's greatness was always directly proportional to how white it was, and right now, that percentage is falling rapidly. Only two things keep me here: the first and second amendments

The divide between the intelligent and stupid will always exist but that's no reason to not support your country. The intelligent and the stupid just disagree on what that means and the stupid are being fed lies which has made it even worse.

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>How is the US so nationalist/patriotic
because of civic nationalism

>half the country basically hates the other half?
civic nationalism doesn't work, ethnical and cultural differences are very important and ignoring them will only create tension and a Rhodesian-like future

This is going to sound stupid but I've always felt "connected" to a vision of white, Anglo America, even if its 50s incarnation which was probably more German than British. Things changed so fast it's almost unbelievable. Now whenever I see an American on YouTube or on some program/show it's always a brown bitch talking about how she hates men or a tranny or something.

This is by far the least cucked comic Horsey has ever made, props to him.

>horsey depicting a colored woman as holding the same bias as a white man

Temperatures in Hell reach record low.

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I was thinking this as well, wtf? However, notice how the brown woman is dressed like some crazy 60's black panther, while the white guy is dressed like some regular old dude? Implying regular white men are just as hateful as black panthers.

get out of my country reeeeeeeeeee

I don't see why we dont just eliminate muslims from the planet.

Most people on the Right don't hate the Left. That's part of the problem. The people on the right have too much compassion for leftists and are too tolerant. They let leftists get away with far too much.
Right wingers might think lefties are naive or stupid but it's rare to see a right winger who believes the Left are truly evil. Contrast that with the leftist position that basically sees all right wingers as nazi's who want to take food from starving children and murder people by depriving them of health insurance.

Civic nationalism is a pipe dream. Multiculturalism & "diversity" will be the death of this nation.

Equivalence fallacy: the comic

Have no ill in your heart for people who literally want to dismantle your values and culture, goy

The patriots see the country for what it used to be and what it could be again. They don't understand the complicated forms of debt slavery and human labor farms and think we're free, but they do appreciate the day-to-day abilities to think, move, and interact as we like.
The other half thinks that we're a horrible imperialist country of racists, and ironically want the state to force the rest of the country to abide by their rules.
It's very weird, the two opposing viewpoints that stem from the type of media, history, research, and philosophy you buy into.

It wasn't always this bad. Sure, each side of the country made fun of each other, but actual hate was rare until after '65.

Because one half burns the flag at rallies

This. If you see a nationalist there's like 99% chance it's a conservative of some sort.
Seth Rich it's literally the only liberal I've ever seen displaying the 'murican flag

/thread
I have some great friends who are liberal as fuck and we just don't talk politics. The dichotomy portrayed in the news where everyone wants to murder anyone who doesn't agree with their political opinions is not real.

I used to romanticize 50s America too, but the truth is that negro influences had already permeated into society deeply at that point, and women were already becoming degenerate whores, albeit submissive ones.

The America I truly feel a connection to: the western pioneers and settlers. No degenerate culture, no faggots. Just hard men and loyal women hunting, trapping, fighting savages, and struggling to survive in untamed lands. That's where the soul of American went

Nah most lefties legitimately hate right wingers and think they are evil incarnate

Its like siblings fighting. They might be harsh to each other but when someone from the outside attacks either of them they quickly unite.

Because America is a Jewified-mongrelized nation where people circle-jerk about muh land of opportunity and other economic (jewish) traits instead of having an actual heritage and culture to rally around.

America is a good experiment to see how multiculturalism doesn't work.

I love America, your country is the crown jewels of the West. It's not your fault, but the Jews.

Is that why 70% of whites voted for a protectionist who wants to make America great again and not a neo lib?

This

I know some radical right-wingers but I feel compared to the hate I've seen Trump endure, the Left is way worse.

If multiculturalism doesn't work then why is Europe so prosperous? Would it bother you if a German moved into your Anglo neighborhood? Multiculturalism worked in America when only white immigration was allowed and it was many civilized European cultures and ideas being exchanged. The problem is that when people say "multiculturalism" today, they men "mass immigration of third-world brown subhumans who can't even keep their own societies together"

Trump still adheres to everything that that German said about the USA, just a lesser evolved version of it circa 1980s.

Because we haven't had a good war in a long time.
America is a country populated by the descendants of war criminals, trained killers, savages, mongols, and warriors.

We've been overrun with commies, socialists, pussies, and limp writes liberal wimps that pour water on the fire. They're in America out of pure convenience and have no attachment to the ideas that America stands for.

The real America lives for war and adversity. True patriots have to pick up the slack and be patriotic for these idiots.

Europe wasn't multicultural mate. The European push for multiculturalism came much later than that of the USA. All of the respective nations of Europe have a pretty good idea of whether you are their nationality or not based upon your looks.

As for us colonies, the promotion of the "melting pot" was done by Jews. Look up the term "melting pot", it was literally made up by a British Jew. It became a meme used by the Jews to justify successive waves of immigration.

The only real artful display of war that the USA has ever demonstrated was the Pacific Naval Campaign in 1941 and 1942. You fought outgunned against the Japanese and you still destroyed the bulk of their carriers.

Every other time in the 20th century you fought opponents that were materially inferior, if not numerically inferior.

Don't give me this bullshit about you being a huge military power prior to WW2.

pretty much this.

Gonna go help a couple of faggots (masculine penis to masculine asshole) with some shit around their house today. They are hardcore liberals and have been really fantastic friends for years. One even campaigned for Hillary.

We constantly troll each other on politics and LGBTQBBWXYZ blah blah. After the election, I won a $100 bet and trolled them so bad with crying pictures of hill supporters they went silent for a week.

Overall we have some really fantastic debates. I've gotten them to embrace owning guns, they have gotten me to tolerate being around non-PDA faggotry.

Our primary common ground is that southern niggers are fucking niggery and stink worse than a waffle house bathroom at 2:45 AM.
>if you live in the south, you know this is objectively true

America has always gone to the extremes, in every category. It's just how your culture is.

I never said we were particularly great at it. We just like it; war is a fetish for true Americans

Also, it's easy to be numerically and materially superior when your military spending is 10x the next person in line

You gonna suck their cocks while you're at it?

>patriotic
Actually the left really has done well demonizing patriotism that you see it much less these days thanks to them going on social media spamming "'MURICA" every fourth of july and getting trending how racist America is on these days. really the division comes from them. i have no problem with liberals and their opinions but I am convinced if they could legally kill me today they would not hesitate and do it.

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As soon as body bags start showing up on TV cameras in the USA from your war dead, the support for wars goes down the toilet.

The only way your country gets away with all the bullshit it does is because you utilize drones and other expensive technology that remove the emphasis of boots on the ground. Hence lower body count.

But that military empire is slowly strangling your country's finances.

>But that military empire is slowly strangling your country's finances.

Once they're done with America they'll just move onto China or whatever country is the world power at the time.

Because half the country are libtards

> But that military empire is slowly strangling your country's finances.
> He's never heard of military Keynesianism
Military research expenditure is also the primary factor behind the development of new technologies and software which provide insane amounts of revenue, new businesses, etc. for the country.

This. I would have liked it, back when it was explicitly European. But now it is an ungodly monstrosity.

This is the problem.
"Viva la Mexico!"
"Wait, no, don't deport me to Mexico, MY LIFE IS RUINED!"

And that would be well and good if your country's monetary policy wasn't run by Jews.

What's worth more in the long run: a weapons system that quickly becomes obsolete or financial independence?

You exported so much of your industry to China that you've lost the edge that you held in WW2 when it comes to industry.

The USA is now the weakest it has ever been since 1945 relative to other powers.

Or you could just give that money to random people.

That's basically what government contracts are.

The military industrial complex is a welfare program.

In the real picture the one on the left is either burning the flag, wiping their ass, or both.

Giving money to random people doesn't lead to bleeding-edge technological developments which power economic growth for the future.
Stupidly diversifying spending doesn't power economic growth, concentrated smart spending does.

I only hate subhuman filth.
I understand that most people are woefully misinformed.

I live in SoCal in a city where non-hispanic whites are 12.5% of the population, most of them don't really give a fuck about America, at least not the same way an average family from the Midwest do. When I lived in NorCal I was in a place that was a lot more diverse and it seemed like most mexican families pretty much shed all their mexican-ness in a generation or two. But from where I'm standing now, instead of becoming Americanized, they're basically just forming their own little colony, a state within a state.

If you think California deserves it, that's fine, but if you're anywhere near the Southern border it's gonna catch up to you eventually. Trump could boot out every last illegal soul in the country and it wouldn't stop the population surge.

Even the term as coined by Eisenhower was deemed a necessity to combat world communism.

Replace communism with jihadism and you have the modern day.

Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, Communists, and Jews are not and cannot be American. So we don't hate other Americans. We hate foreign invaders.

>Stupidly diversifying spending

Literally American capitalism.

Are you kidding me? The one on the left would never be caught dead saying "I love America".

And the only reason she's tugging on the flag is because she wants to burn it.

one of my favorite posts.

I beg to differ. I'm okay with pretty much any bad thing happening as long as it happens to a piece of shit liberal.

Oooh yeah, good way to get that freshly minted money into some pockets!

It's the final destination of the Keynesian doctrine, cool air force jets are cool n all but that thinking gave us the f35

Sauce on image; fortune.com/2016/04/12/bernanke-helicopter-money/

>concentrated smart spending does.

And you think America's military is concentrated smart spending?

HAHAHAHA

Americans will launch a $100,000 missile to take out an ISIS fighter with a $100 AK47 and a $10 bicycle.

Your way of fighting wars is inefficient economically in the extreme.

All the upkeep on outdated aircraft carriers is a good laff too and is reminiscent of the British obsession with battleships prior to WW2.

>white people

When talking about the Jews who created the atom bomb

>kek

Get out nigger.

lol now they are trying to act like they love this country ,
fucking kek

>half the country basically hates the other half

This is so surreal. It made me extremely uncomfortable during my time in America. Thank God Americans don't like to talk about politics while a foreigner is in the room.

I never understood this;

Progressives/liberals every other day
"America is a country founded by racist white men with violence against PoC"

Progressives/liberals when Trump comes
"America is not your country racists! Get out of our country! Punching nazis is American tradition!"

The rad-left isn't doing this as they always will despise America but at-least they're consistent. This is where you seperate the Dem progressives from the actual radical leftists.

America is in a social civil war to see which ideology will prevail, nationalism or globalist socialism. While the right is winning, I would encourage fellow white Christian Europeans come to america to help us turn america into an authoritarian white ethno state. I applaud Europeans who join us in keeping america Christian territory as well those who stay home to become independent from the EU,

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This is not false. I had liberal family members drop out of thanksgiving last year.

Keep in mind though that it's liberals doing this.

Brainwashing.

What makes an American is nothing more than a passport, there is no unity in ethnicity and culture like in European countries because white Americans are mixed and share the same culture.

> And you think America's military is concentrated smart spending?
Not in its entirety but the R&D spending most certainly is, and it forms a type of loop which is somewhat sustaining in that it will lead to new and extremely profitable companies which will generate more economic activity and revenue for the state to pursue further ventures.

People that are overly proud or vocal about their political leanings are annoying as fuck though to be honest.

Family gatherings, parties, weddings or whatever social even your nobody wants to hear about it.

Last night downtown Nashville some guys in USA suits screaming about Trump, God Bless Trump, God Bless the GOP, chanting Fuck Liberals.

There is a time and place but people are there to have fun not hear your political b.s.

Leftists don't love America. In fact they do everything to destroy it.

How can you actually believe this is what it boils down to? Nationalism and xenophobia are bad for business. A smart capitalist wouldn't even dream of supporting nationalist cause. A socialist would do so in a heartbeat, because history has proven nationalist sentiment disables capitalism. But that doesn't mean you should shake their hands. You want a job and house, a decent living, don't you? Nationalists cannot help you get this. By supporting them, you empower the enemies of the free market. Why do Americans appear unable to understand this?

T. Ahmed

Propaganda, brainwashing, public school, etc. Now I would have no problem with this if we had a healthy state based on fundamental principles like race, family, etc. but we don't. Propaganda in itself is not a bad thing, but when it makes people servile and obedient to what is fundamentally a corrupt and debauched system, then it can be called brainwashing. Really, when it comes down to it, the unifying American principle is greed. That's what the "American Dream" is all about. But even this made some sense when we were a meritocracy, but those days are long gone.

>a healthy state based on fundamental principles like race, family,

That's another thing. These "principles" aren't fundamental at all.

Lefties know they control a large portion of the media when it comes to projecting their "virtues".

The double-think you pointed out is irrelevant to them. Who's going to call them out on it?
Trump supporters? Progressives don't care what they think--their echo chamber will continue to be as loud as a commercial jet take-off.

Winning over these people with reason is not impossible, but those trying to convince them see it that way.
Honestly, who can blame them? When you cite multiple sources, bring up relevant laws and debunk myths, they're still not satisfied, and will constantly go through mental gymnastics to deny everything you've said.

The issue is that all of these people are bourgeois as fuck, they won't readily admit it, but it is true.
It is a fault of people who grow up in sanctuary cities. Suckling on the teat of luxury while criticizing those who think you're over-indulging.

Bottom line, they live in their own world, and we're just poor and stupid in their eyes, while at the same time saying that we're "over-privileged", their hypocrisy blinds them to no end.

Liberals usually don't like nationalism because "it's stupid to be proud of piece of Earth you're born on".

Little nignog lover, what I wouldn't do to her...

>xenophobia
Wanting a smart policy on immigration is not xenophobia. Your nose is showing.

well there are americans and then there are millions of non americans in america and then there are cuckmericans who masturbate to them which makes them not really american since they're not acting in our best interest. I would bet a small loan of a million dollars that if you deport all illegal immigrants and limit the amount of children legal immigrants are allowed to have, stuff like china does, america would be amazing. Imagine america having chinese thoroughbred genetics. Imagine 100% american bloodlines

its only that one half is super nationalistic, the other half hates the nationalists and some hate the country itself

lolwut
Mexicans don't say "I love America"
In fact, far from it. They hate the very country they're leeching from.

The arab way, enslaving millions of africans and still fighting civil racist wars to this day

The african way, enslaving and murdering white people in southern africa because of some petty colonization hundreds of years ago that brought them into civilization and out of mud huts

The asian way, murdering and raping villages for thousands of years in an attempt to unite all of asia under one dynasty

user, I'm pretty sure war mongering is just the human way