What is your opinion on the EU?

Are you happy with the status quo? Do you want to leave like the Brits? Or do you want to stay and try and reform it?

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bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-05/most-poles-prefer-banning-muslims-to-eu-membership-poll-shows
independent.ie/business/world/german-pensions-crisis-is-warning-to-rest-of-the-world-35535691.html
ft.com/content/3ceb364c-191d-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e
huffingtonpost.com/christian-darr/migration-could-be-an-opp_b_10129850.html
bbc.com/news/health-38899811
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-31/german-unemployment-falls-to-new-record-low-as-economy-booms
politico.eu/article/most-germany-migrants-fail-to-get-jobs-unemployment/
express.co.uk/news/world/745147/million-immigrants-Germany-few-find-jobs-migrant-crisis
rt.com/news/354942-german-police-funding-equipment/
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jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/european-union-isis-has-chemical-and-biological-weapons/2015/12/07/
newsweek.com/isis-militants-chemical-weapons-attack-soldiers-iraq-585174
politico.eu/article/german-intelligence-warns-of-is-hit-squads-among-refugees/
nytimes.com/2016/02/06/world/europe/germany-refugees-isis.html
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It desperately needed reform and most of that came from the Brits
Now that you are out there is no hope to reform it so I hope it crashes and burns in the next five years because it will only do damage to Europe from now on.

This.
Losing brits will hinder any reforms.

At some point EU turned in USSR 2.0 with huge bureocracy "commisars" and all that shit.

Also I doubt it can be saved, germany and france are shiting everything up.

>Month too young to vote
>Brexit wins anyway

I'm a very happy boy

Remember we were shitting it up in 2004 according to the brits by letting you in.

That was also shitting it up according to based Europeans.

The EU has been shit for over a decade now.

>Probably would have been pro EU if the EU itself had a hard border and we were allowed own trade agreements

Well merkels imigration policy, pushing for more taxes. Bulshiting countries that decrased taxes (and got economic growth).

EWG was nice, EU wanted to follow up.. but as usual things got gerried.

The growth of burocracy is biggest cancer.

It triggers the eternal anglo, and that is good.

>a sensible post by a German on the EU

what trickery is this?

>he wants to genocide himself just to try and spite Brits

Wew

I am just a German who realizes we are the problem and need to be genocided

I am only against the EU as long as it hurts the rest of Europe. If it kills us I am all for it.

The demographic make up of Europe has been irreparably transformed by systematic fuck ups. If leaving the EU gave my homeland a chance of avoiding the same fate then I'd want to bail immediately.

I'm not happy with the status quo, but my hope is wit the brits leaving we can finally have tighter integration and more market control, rather than just a free trade union.

It's shit. V4 union when?

Why do you want more integration?

Unions go to shit fast.

Just keep our national integrity and work togheter without creating uneccesary union. We can solve all legal issues with multi sided deals.

So far V4 keeps its shit togheter, no reason to complicate stuff.

Marxist dictatorship
Soviet Union 2.0

My sweet sweet kraut friend, your dream of a united Europe is a noble one but don't you understand that by supporting the EU you are actively advocating your own Genocide?

Name one thing wrong with German genocide.

I am appaled by how easy we give away our sovereignty. The thing my ancestors fought and died for multiple times.

EU is an anti-democratic institution that is trying to destroy every member state with the importation of savages of which most of them will never integrate, are a security risk, will never contribute to the economy or social system by being unemployable, that increase the amount of crime and violence wherever they arrive and that clog the countries courts with the cheer volume of asylum requests.

Those invading ppl are for the most part illegal economic migrants, and are and will always be a deadly burden on the social systems of the nations of the EU, and when the sovereign debt pension fund crisis hits (leaving the already taxed healthcare systems, police forces and prisons without sufficient funds, as well as making the welfare the invaders receive and feel ENTITLED to evaporate into thin air), the invaders will probably outnumber natives in a lot of the EU nations and will already have already smuggled military grade type weapons such as AK47's and RPG's as well as hand grenades and chemical weapons into EU territory, so ultimately, the EU is bound to see a massive amount of blood being spilled outside of V4 because of the utter rotten decision by cunt Merkel to flood the EU with those ppl.

Will the blood bath stop with the invaders and not spill into getting retribution upon the ones responsible for the invasion when the SHTF? I don't believe so, as the levels of violence the natives will have to practice upon the migrants and will suffer (imagine those invaders with military grade weaponry, starving and outnumbering natives) in order to make them go back to their countries, or kill those who view the European countries their parents invaded as their own (those won't "go back" and only physical removal will suffice) probably make it so that disgruntled and betrayed by their own political leaders EU nations natives choose to go after them after the threat they imported is dealt with.

Read this shit, its worth it: anonymousconservative.com/blog/

Read this pls:
anonymousconservative.com/blog/epic-amygdala-trigger-discovered-fake-american/

universal human rights are good
I have no love for "my people" by whatever arbitrary quality you choose to define that group. I care about the life of the individual, not about the continued existence of a tribe. That is why the "white genocide" meme is not the same as actual genocide.

Touche

I want in and gibs, gib gibs pls

Fuck the EU. Tons of useless bureaucrats pushing their agenda. Especially European Commision needs to be purged.

EU may be good in the past, but right now it is loosing its purpose.

EU is awesome. Now we miss USSR and Reich even more. EU turn normies to racist and nationalist. Hating niggers and muslims is trendy as fuck now. Thank you.

>Hating niggers and muslims is trendy as fuck now. Thank you.

you act if its something wrong...

No. Not at all. It was wrong to speak badly about them few years ago. Now people understand. Invite them and have massive rape incidents. Before that it was like. We are all same and shit. Now ordinary people actualy agree with me. Too bad it will destroy UK, Germany and France.

>universal human rights are good
You're a short sighted dumb shit mate, sorry to tell you, and feeling sorry that you are actually like that, because you're a FAKE HUMANITARIAN. You spew that human rights rhetoric but that same rhetoric you defend only results in MORE HUMAN SUFFERING. I'll explain you why:

You see, what you fail to understand is that resources are finite, and soon when the sovereign debt crisis hits (aka, the socialist ponzi scheme goes bust) you'll have a situation that consists of the following:

1- Pensions not being paid (results in ppl that depend on them to starve and not have money for medication (they're probably old)).

2- Healthcare having no funds so being even more taxed than it is already.

3- Police being even more underfunded.

4- Prisons being even more underfunded.

5- The social welfare that the illegal economic migrants (aka invaders) receive will vanish into thin air, and these invaders actually FEEL ENTITLED to those gibs, and ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO CHIMP OUT WHEN THEY ARE GONE.

6- By the time this happens, the invaders will already have smuggled MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS into the EU territory, and more and more no-go zones will be under the control of violent and very well armed groups of invaders.

Now, take all this into account, and tell me what do you think is going to happen when the starving, heavily armed, pissed off at getting no more gibs invaders that come from violent cultures and follow violent ideologies gonna do to ppl around them?

You are a FAKE HUMANITARIAN, you're a piece of shit that will make not only your ppl, but those MENA ppl suffer because of the result of defending them invading EU territory. You're a dumb cunt mate. Have a nice day cunt.

V4 are not dumb because they are seasoned, suffered under the boot of communism and proximity with muds.

It's not that normal ppl will start to want muds exterminated, its just that they'll realise that proximity with them always results in war because their a shitty culture. Let them have their shitty culture in their countries, just leave us alone.

Just send gibs and fuck off and nobody gets hurt

>probably thinks dogs would be pretty cool, if only they were cats.

I don't think any of this is going to happen. You seem to live in a very scary world. I hope you will be able to escape from it.

The V4 are dumb. Half of the bloc are the most pro EU countries in Europe.

I love these Brits trying to pretend leaving EU was a good idea. What makes it even more funny is that they seriously think EU will break.

Only as long as they get money and don't have to do anything for it

The moment they are done with the EU they will not remember a single euro.

without it we'd be at eachothers throats and with it we are left to the wolves.

Pyramid schemes using shitskins as currency isn't a solid foundation for empire, Spurdo

You don't need to be genocided. You need better political leadership, we all do. Have to say it's a breath of fresh air to not see a German flag antagonizing us about Brexit though, good lad.

>good lad.
There are no good Germans. Please don't think I am excluding myself here just because I am shitting on the other Germans.
All Germans need to be gone. There is no middle ground.

>Brits
>leaving EU
When? Last I heard they'll take 20 years to prepare to enforce borders and that was the #1 reason for Brexit. Their politicians sold them out. Brexit is a meme.

Your rules are made for you in Brussels. I don't have to listen to a non-country's opinion.

FUCK THE EU

We will never be in this Scum Union of fucktards and SJW Leftist anti Gun Scum shit (TRIGGERT.exe)

Brexit was always going to take a few years. Instead of taking the piss why do t you grow some balls and leave as well? You won't because you can't - your country is a parasite just like all other Slavs.

Based Swiss. I feel sorry for you being surrounded by massive retards.

Nah, no-one thinks that they should have been kept out of the EU, we just think that Blair was a globalist cuck and Shroeder and Chirac were massive fucking hypocrites who called us "bad Europeans" when they were the ones blocking slav immigration until all the Poles were safely in Britain.

Why are you so antagonistic? It would help you a lot and make trade talks easier if other EU members also left. But instead of making allies of them you are insulting them.

Drope the meme flag.
Stop the HURR DURR UR COUNTRY faggotry.
Present a proper argument.
Then we'll talk.

Are you a soft brexit cuck?

m8, that guy isn't the negotiator, he's just some neet in his bedroom.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-05/most-poles-prefer-banning-muslims-to-eu-membership-poll-shows
We love the idea of European cooperation, it's just that it's used to do stupid shit.

>We love the idea of European cooperation
Well I hope you learned your lesson and realized to never do that again with western Europe

>United States of Europe
No I am not satisfied with the EU.
Am I satisified with our country's politicians? No.
Are they basically the same lazy boomer bunch blaming everything on ECB, Draghi, whatever? Yes.

I want the EU reformed, reset and these lazy politicians removed asap.
I want a fiscal union where stronger countries like Germany provide for the weak and I want a USE army the starship troopers way.
I want dumbos whose only obsession is to obstruct and try to kill the EU in general removed and punished.
I want Brits and their cherrypicking removed.
I want Poles and their disgusting attitude of taking EU money without taking EU responsibility like fucking bums removed and or punished / sanctioned.
HEIL USE!

>I don't think any of this is going to happen. You seem to live in a very scary world. I hope you will be able to escape from it.

Typical atrophied amygdala individual response.

>You seem to live in a very scary world.
We both do, but you're incapable of seeing it at the moment (you're brain and psychological configuration isn't allowing you to).

>Lets try to change that.
I'm not happy that I know I'm right, but it is true.

>1- Pensions not being paid
independent.ie/business/world/german-pensions-crisis-is-warning-to-rest-of-the-world-35535691.html
ft.com/content/3ceb364c-191d-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e
huffingtonpost.com/christian-darr/migration-could-be-an-opp_b_10129850.html

>2- Healthcare having no funds
bbc.com/news/health-38899811
>He contributes 7% of his salary before tax and his employers match that amount.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-31/german-unemployment-falls-to-new-record-low-as-economy-booms
BUT
politico.eu/article/most-germany-migrants-fail-to-get-jobs-unemployment/
express.co.uk/news/world/745147/million-immigrants-Germany-few-find-jobs-migrant-crisis
>invasion results in net draining of social system overtime (aka, more ppl are using and less percentage of user are contributing to the system)

3- Police being even more underfunded
rt.com/news/354942-german-police-funding-equipment/
>the more the invader drain the system, the worse it gets

4- Prisons being even more underfunded
books.google.pt/books?id=psu-DgAAQBAJ&pg=PA173&lpg=PA173&dq=prisons germany underfunded&source=bl&ots=KB0UcvoZgU&sig=HeTq-sP1BHhhi-RNEYejqomatWs&hl=pt-PT&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbuOWCr5_VAhVNsBQKHbUCArYQ6AEIQjAD#v=onepage&q=prisons germany underfunded&f=false
>well fug

5- The social welfare that the illegal economic migrants (aka invaders) receive will vanish into thin air
>When the system goes bust this will happen (no money)

Because I'm fucking sick of Europeans moaning about the EUfor years and then as soon as we actually tell the EU to fuck off they start attacking us. Fuck the lot of you. We don't need Europe and we never did. We are seafarers.

>huffingtonpost com/christian-darr/migration-could-be-an-opp_b_10129850.html
archive.is/bEO2c
>politico eu/article/most-germany-migrants-fail-to-get-jobs-unemployment
archive.is/otueS

There's no such thing as soft Brexit. There's staying in the EU and its institutions and leaving.

I swear to my Country if we are ever want to go in the EU, i make a Fucking Rebellion, if they Want to ban us Guns i make a Rebelion, we are a Great old Country and we will never Surrender to EU-SJW leftist scum!
Semper Fidelis!

>WE WUZ SEAFARAZ
Yes like 100 years ago. Now you are nothing but a tiny desolate island with fever dreams.
I seriously hope you will never be allowed to enter the EU ever again.

Swiss are part of the EFTA because they want to be part of the single market. Which also means they get the immigration.

That would easily be possible for you and would mean you are "TECHNICALLY" not part the EU. That is what people call a soft brexit.

A nation which strives to cut the strings of usury, to become truly financially independent, to NOT be born into debt, to live a life of indentured servitude and debt slavery, to become a nation unbeholden to a handful of people wielding Godlike powers... are evil incarnate.

But a European Union which acts as nothing more than a financial bloc to further enrich the already insanely wealthy, moving more power and control into fewer hands, is a great idea which everyone should support.

sounds legit

When do we get in?

Lets continue:

>6- By the time this happens, the invaders will already have smuggled MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS into the EU territory, and more and more no-go zones will be under the control of violent and very well armed groups of invaders.
They have them:
jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/european-union-isis-has-chemical-and-biological-weapons/2015/12/07/
newsweek.com/isis-militants-chemical-weapons-attack-soldiers-iraq-585174
They can get in:
politico.eu/article/german-intelligence-warns-of-is-hit-squads-among-refugees/
>Official says country has to accept it is home to terror ‘sleeper cells.’
nytimes.com/2016/02/06/world/europe/germany-refugees-isis.html


Welcome to the real world, and it is, indeed, a scary place. Liberalism is all based on lies and falsehood presented as fact in order to appeal to your wish to feel safe. You can choose to open your eyes to the truth and see that liberalism is FAKE HUMANITARIANISM, or you can choose to not face the truth and not fight against the LIES and FALSENESS of liberalism. It's your choice, perhaps you'll feel like the world needs more people to open its eyes to the truth, I hope so.

Get me the fuck out. Unified Scandinavian country w h e n?

I hope it ends soon

>A nation which strives to cut the strings of usury, to become truly financially independent, to NOT be born into debt, to live a life of indentured servitude and debt slavery, to become a nation unbeholden to a handful of people wielding Godlike powers...
Which nation exactly would that be?

It is what it is, we need to have nationalism in the member nations, get out and then work together against common threats. Live and learn, leave and learn.

It would make a nice anti-EU hashtag, #LeaveAndLearn

We're a global trading nation. Your country's weird obsession with the continent and nothing else has destroyed your country twice. I will celebrate the third time when the German is finally extinguished.

>nationalism in the member nations
>then work together
UNITING is the exact fucking problem. No together. We shouldn't even talk to each other anymore.

We have no appetite for that. We're not staying in the single market because we want our own deals.

>I want to buy out other countries sovereignty, like it is exactly happening right now.
Fuck you ya cunt.

Good.
I am gonna miss English fish but I guess the Japanese will have to do.
I approve how quickly they jumped in and saw their chance.

Honestly have fun with your union. Do what you will with it, it's not our problem anymore.

We have the world including our Anglo brothers across the seas. You have Poles and Lithuanians. Good luck.

FUCK THE SOCIALIST DEATH PANEL EU! DEATH TO PRO EU YOUTH!

No reason to attack the poles you rude cunt.

Against common threats. You need exportations and importations and shit like that. We could have an economical agreement so we could more easily buy products from each other like we do now but without the nonsense of having no border security.

EEC was GOAT, then it all started to go downhill since Maastricht

Brexit is a process, not a one off event. It being painful/costly/whatever for us now, or for a few decades, doesn't make it a bad choice for us to have made.

Our politicians didn't sell us out, they along with the media, "business leaders", multi-nationals etc, were openly pro-remain, as they have been for decades.

Their interests are not the same as mine, and what is "good" for the national economy is not the same as being economically good for the majority of people who live here.

The status quo is not sustainable for much longer, and you're a fool if you think you are safe and the future decided because you are members of the EU.

best thing ever since sliced bread.

EU DELENDA EST
EURO DELENDA EST
EEC OK

Reform the Shit out of it or replace it with something that actually works.

There is not going to be any Brexit in the end. UK political elites will shit it up so badly so that the time will come when the idea of scrapping the Brexit will have little opponents. Political elites will weasel out of respecting what the pople voted for and go forwards according to their own agenda. That's all. If there was any intention of truly exiting the EU, a very hard Brexit would already be underway.

Nothing wrong with the majority or hardworking Poles desu

I've never had a problem with Euies coming over here grafting.

My problem is with fucking Fabio from Italy who works in Starbucks for 12 hours a week, then needs a housing benefit, income support benefit and additional handouts.

Sure, Kevin, you wuz global trade nation and shiiiet!!
Have you had a look at your country lately?
The empire is long gone, you are stuck in the past like all you degenerates.
You are NOTHING now, a shitstain with an economy in decay and a parallel society of radical muslims fucking up your country every few weeks.
The only trade you make money with is financials and your institutes already plan to move to Frankfurt or Paris.
Brits are all the same, retarded dreamers stuck in WW2.
Your empire is gone, you are no seafaring nation of the commonwealth, you are a shitstain with delusions.
Your children will ask what happened back then, mark my words.
Your stupidity disgusts me, Kevin.

You know, when new taxes are introduced or existing ones raised, there's never a several years 'period of adjustment' or any similar crap. It quickly comes into effect. Everything else are just empty BS stories and apologetics. I wrote why Brexit will not happen in any way, shape or form in the end

>I want to be bought and get money but not give anything in return
These are treaties the polish subscribed themselves or what are you stuttering about, mong sherlock?

Great poast m8.

You know this kind of put down would be awesome coming from any other country but it disgusts me seeing it from a german.

Maybe it is brainwashing but germans shouldn't be allowed to be this nationalistic. Even on Sup Forums

Your country is still occupied by mine lol

I am not nationalistic, Germany fucked up big time.
They made money by having a devaluated Euro (Brits were too retarded to profit from it and wanted to keep GBP) but don't want to share.
They themselves are partially responsible for making Brits react like paranoid retards.

>a parallel society of radical muslims fucking up your country every few weeks.
Thats Germanistan 2 for you.

>A German telling people not to attack the poles

The EU needs to collapse German cunts are ruining Europe as usual. This time they know they cannot dominate via war and have made a fake representative bureaucracy they dominate with various coalitions of their puppet states.

>adjusting some taxes is totally the same as reversing 40+ years of integration and subservience to a unique and foreign system of continental governance.

>Your country is still occupied by mine lol

Your country is occupied by Pakis lol

Germany has had its fair share as well, but if you seriously want to compare that to british levels you are deluding yourself and we both know.

>says New Turkey

You literally have posters in your country telling Arabs how to impregnate German women lmao

Your Pakis don't need instructions for impregnating your minors lmao