TECH BURNOUT - I am become the BLACK PILL

Any Sup Forums user here over 30, have a good career in IT and burnt out AF with technology?
What's your next step, dream, or plan.?

Anyone else have decades of networking, programming and security that wants to just drop it all and go analog/organic? Like do pottery, bake, film photography, carpentry, glass blowing or moving of to 10 acres to do hydroponic tilapia, micro-greens, mushrooms or some shit (pun intended).

The thing I used to love the most I CANNOT STAND today. Social media, cultural marxism, censorship, diversity mandates, ignorant self destructive youth brigade and the entire internet of douchebaggery has done me in.

Without a pivot, I am become the BLACK PILL

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What's so black pill about working in the tech industry? Is it poo in the loos ruining for everyone?

Unironically, do a Ted Kaczynski

For 12 years I've worked as an electronic engineer, and in my free time my hobbies have always revolved around electronics/CNC machines/computers. I've now got to the point I don't even use a computer at home and all my hobbies revolve around growing my garden, woodworking with basic tools, and camping.

Yep.

That's what I need to do more. I don't have a lot of space currently though.

FTR, I don't condone illegal or violent behaviour in any shape, or form. But, user, you should reaaaaaally check uncle Ted's manifesto...

Seems to be common thread with men in general. Granted, I live in the south-lite (nc), so it's easier to pick up an outdoorsy hobby, but all the friends I have that are in their late twenties/early thirties have picked up these kind of hobbies

It's easy , make a job with complete automation. No diversity bullshit, no payroll, no headache except starting up and hiring people to fix broken shit.

I got burnt out after six years in networking and got out. Now I am much happier.

no one in the history of computer science has ever made anything that works right.
computers are trash, everything with a screen is trash.
no one has any idea how to make a good piece of tech.
as the future comes, shit is getting worse and worse. I blame Apple really. they got the meme of "less you can do with it, less buttons it has, the less control you have, the better!" rolling. soon everything will have one button, an on/off button, and be totally voice controlled. it will take 40 seconds to change a channel simply because voice renegotiation is trash and always will be. just like touch screens.
the days of just clicking a button on a remote, a remote that doesn't even need to be facing the thing it controls let alone the same room, are gone.

I can't wait to move to the deep woods and forget all these tedious bullshit. society was a mistake.

I was a web dev for years. Worked for mainly advertising agencies. In 2013 I just quit. I bought a van, moved into it, and did freelance for a bit as I drove around the country. Currently I am an apprentice for a cabinet/furniture maker. We do custom built-ins and one off pieces mostly. I make about 20% of my previous income as a developer, but I'm happy. I'm almost 40, btw.

I think the reason why we are being burnt out with technology is because it's becoming less and less sensational as it used to be. More and more people are "tech savvy" for whatever that means and less genuine improvements in our electronics has been made over the last few years. It's just been upgrade after upgrade. Nothing incredible has been made yet and that's the reason less and less people are interested. Even my PC game is sitting there collecting dust as I either grew out of it or shitty games have been made.

mangement, sales, starting a company. depends if you actually know a lot and can work with people or are the "ask google, apply fix" type.

a tech job is pretty comfy though bc you can work remote and don't have to deal with degenerate people in cities.

means to an end i guess

Semi-IT here. Quit in May. All I want to do is have a garden.

How to get an IT job ?

t. bachelor of IT and no internships

>More and more people are "tech savvy"

Google usually has all the answers anyway to any tech issue. No need to IT when you can just google your issue and solve the problem. I know a few IT guys and that's what they do as well.

When you come into work and this is your new marketing team.

Have a pulse, make a complete Linkedin profile, add everyone you know, change your status thing to currently looking for a job, then start searching for IT recruiters and adding them. You'll be getting 10 cold contacts a day for positions in no time.

All my adult life I've done IT jobs.
It's what I went to school for.
It's the only thing I've ever been trained for.
I have no other skills.
I wish I knew how to do other things.
I want to do something else, but I don't know what or how to even get started.
Every time I dwell on this I get very depressed.

basically tech industry people are
1. Absurdly INcompetent and tech illiterate
2. Semi-competent but brought down by number 1

Masters in CS... Worked for about 10 years. Eventually became obessesd with off the grid videos and the outdoors. Something about being locked up in an office under the flourescent tubes makes you yearn for nature and natural processes. Probobly why many of us pick gardening. After months of making my shell slightly transparent so I could watch you tube videos about the subject and pretend to program. I handed in fake timesheets, about fake bug fixes for more then a few years and no one noticed. I would intentionally break something and be the one who could find the magic fix. Eventually I felt bad for the company and simply quit. I grew weed for years and made money. Now I'm in a sales gig and its really great to talk to people and not deal with the computer all day.

>analog/organic
Lots of folks are. Look at the resurgence of vinyl and analog music. Look at how many folks are simply going into the trades to work with their hands. The new American Dream is the old American Dream, get a plot of land, some chickens, and grow your own food.

What is a cold contact ?

inb4 retard can't into a job or be a professional

They didn't teach me this shit in college and don't talk to anyone important in the IT field

I can relate to this thread though I still kind of like my job as an operations engineer. I hate silicon valley though so I often think about taking a demotion and working remotely and buying a house in Montana with some land and grow some food and raise some animals, maybe find a wife that isn't completely fucking pozzed but I dunno

Literally the opposite of this but parents want me to get a white collar job so here we are

Are you serious? If you dont know what this is off yourself. youre doomed

you sound retarded though. how does it feel to not being able to accomplish anything without someone holding your hand through the process geez...

Yeah, I have some kind of programming burnout from time to time.

see this --->The only prior carpentry experience I had was working for a trim carpenter over the summer once when I was in college. If you have the technical ability to code, you can learn a trade. Woodworking and to a greater extent Machining, is very technical. It's a series of demonstrable steps which in turn becomes a process. The tools we have today do not require skills, just the knowledge of what to use them for and when. I found my current job on a construction site where I was employed as a backout laborer. Basically I would clean up the place as the finish trades completed their tasks, basically a job for mexican women, lol. Now I work for one of the best cabinet makers in the country and get to learn everything he knows.

Cold contact is when they call you as a complete stranger out the blue trying to fit you in somewhere. It's honestly not that hard to get a tech job if you know how things work technically and can express your high level of interest in interviews. If you don't have any exp then work on pet projects and talk about those i interviews. I bragged about reaching a high level on the python challenge dot com, they didn't know what it was but when I talked about it it sounded good.

Once you have the required amount of connections to look legit (~100), a fully completed Linkedin profile, bullets on there matching your average IT job posting, and start adding recruiters (search "IT Recruiter" for the city you are looking for and just start spamming connect), you'll get recruiters constantly finding your profile and sending you cold contacts (unsolicited job postings) about postings they have been hired to fill. If it seems interesting you reply, and because recruiters make their money by finding people to fill positions, they want you to get a job offer so they'll push it to the front of HR to get you an interview.
There's a lot of bullshit to weed through because tech recruiters tend to not be great at matching skills to job postings, but if you do have the skills they can get you interviews extremely easy.
Compare this to just blindly submitting applications and you'll realize that you pretty much don't get interviews anymore for applying to jobs, you have to go through a recruiter who pushes your shit past HR to get an interview.

They did teach you this in college, you didn't listen because you're a fucking robot

I'm in the same boat. But I recognize that cultural marxism, censorship, etc. are perversions of technology, not its natural inclination.

Same here. I usually take a few weeks off periodically - seems to help.

No they fucking didn't you cunt. I was able to skip all the gen ed bullshit/required courses that indoctrinate you. And just had to take classes required for my majors.

I started with fountain pens. They relax me a great deal. I'm no artist, but with fountain pens I can work with my hands in analogue, and improve my handwriting with observable results.

>perversions of technology

Cool name for a band.

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33 y/o here. veteran coast guard ops specialist. now i have a comfy job as a civilian working with the cg as a vessel traffic controller.
i'm always on Sup Forums when it's break-time (30 min every 2 hours for 12 hour shifts - 2 days on 2 days off, then 3 days on 2 days off)
make lots of friends, stay fit, nice home, single father of a beautiful daughter, $400,000 home in fairfield ct with rich jewish neighbors.
I also work part time as a phlebotomist with the american red cross and volunteer for disaster relief here and abroad when i can.
life is peachy.

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Just do some bushcrafting as a hobby after work.

Now this user gets it.

I'm trying to pivot and reinvent. I hope you can too.

i know a guy who made bookoo money in computers in the 80s and 90s. he got sick of it which i guess is common and now is a landscape architect. he coulda been real hot shit in tech if he wanted.

>Any Sup Forums user here over 30, have a good career in IT and burnt out AF with technology?
literally me.. 34 software developer on a game company and i fucking hate it.. everytime i have to read or write code i just feel my life force slipping away..

My plan is being blackpilled. I come on here and do CIA Nigger tier rants about whatever and I assume my life will end in violence. Probably started by me. If anyone even gets in my way for one second I will kill and eat them. I hate the human race, I hate you. I hate food, I don't even like food anymore. I drink one bottle of vodka per day and I have hepatitis C. I have sex all the time to spread it on purpose because apparently the only thing god did right was give me a big dong.

>

yep, computer engineering or IT or programming has become so complex it will suck every minute of your life and you will spend 10 hours a day on a chair staring at a minimum of 4 screens filled with microscopic text

it is all irrelevant shit to make the elon musks and steve jobs richer while your life is flushed down the toilet

yes. i work in a network ops center for an ISP so i'm on a computer all day (like most of you i'm sure)

i come home, and i'm on another computer.

in between i have my phone.

i don't even use social media so that's a relief but jesus wtf has become of us?

The overall quality of food in general has deteriorated greatly. You should be upset.

Yeah I've been trying to supplement with volunteer work also.

Love Hope Strength Foundation find bone marrow matches. All our concerts have really redpilled the fuck out of me.

I've only been in tech for maybe 6 years, but I've been having burnout while also watching it around me.

One job, there was a dev who would work basically non-stop. He didn't have to, but he felt like he was the one driving the company, like he had something to prove. He would inject himself into as much higher-up operation as he could. His plan was to become a CTO, nevermind the fact that we had a CTO. He'd frequently badmouth everyone behind their backs so that he would get raised up, including tearing down two former CTOs until he was offered the position. After obtaining his goal from this process over ~3 years, he was laid off after only a couple of months, and now doesn't have any plans for starting anywhere new.

My last job was working for a Jewish mom and pop shop running a search engine. As soon as I set foot in the door, they generously gave me the responsibilities of product and project manager on top of also being a developer. I'd basically work 10 hour days, plus parts of weekends. High-up expectations were unrealistic since our dev team was three full-timers (myself included) and morale was way low because the other devs would have their work shat on by the owners while their business revolved around reselling low-paying job posts and jobseeker email addresses and even resumes to anonymous third parties, which they didn't disclose up front. I didn't even stick around for a year.

Now I'm back to straight development again. The project management isn't the best, but I can go home at the end of the day and not think about work. It's amazing.

I don't know how long this industry will be like this, let alone how long I'll be able to stick with it before going crazy. My plan is to be able to pay off my house, build up savings, and then do something else if I stop giving a fuck. I should be about 40 years old by the time that happens, just in time for a mid-life crisis

Yeah, no joke.
yeah I'm astonished by that guy at primitive technology on YouTube

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I can't stop watching videos of people making fire by rubbing sticks together.

I'm completing my masters this year. I feel like I have no skills at all. I was always above average in academia but the transition to the work marketplace is being tough.

My LinkedIn page is blank, social media makes me anxious.

I get called to job interviews quite frequently but I never get the job.
I always fuck up in hr interviews because of their muh socializing stuff and because I have no idea about what I want to do.

I never worked, got an internship, or did volunteer work, im 24. How fucked am I?

>The thing I used to love the most I CANNOT STAND today. Social media, cultural marxism, censorship, diversity mandates, ignorant self destructive youth brigade and the entire internet of douchebaggery has done me in.

I'm in the exact same boat except I only have 15 months work experience and haven't even finished uni yet.

2007 - 2014:
>Found a great enthusiasm for tech
>Developed game server scripts, apps, fixed/built PCs, played games, all in my spare time
>Impressed classmates with my tech knowledge
>Sixth form - top IT student
>Week of work experience as IT assistant, loved it
>HND - top student in district

2015:
>6 months work experience as a software developer
>Absolutely hated it
>Long commute
>Open office
>Knackered mentally at the end of each day
>Constant SJW yapping online and in previous areas of interest
>Games becoming ever more jewey and poorly developed
>Watch Stefan Molyneux video about women - future family aspirations shattered

2015 - 2017:
>Go to uni
>Put in minimum effort, do OK considering
>Do a year in new software dev job
>Starts OK
>More pressure piled on
>Two redpilled dudes leave, place now filled with media parroting cucks
>Absolutely hate this

About to do my final year, if I can get through the year without accidentally landing a SD job I'll be thankful. My plans for after graduation are just a big black void.

yeah, that explains why pol is so shit tier, people like you

i hope one of your victims turns you in

I started my tech/development career in 2001. It was so much fun back then. Sort of like pirates of silicon valley, but you could go where ever you wanted. I jumped around from NYC to SF to Seattle. Something happened around 2007 though. That's when the social engineering creep began to infect every production house in the country. I eventually was able to move to working from home because seniority/desirable skill set, but even then I would have to still communicate with all the faggots. I can't even stomach the thought of having to work in that environment ever again. With that said, I basically lived out your plan. I have a modest home I own, no debt, and am currently employed as an apprentice making $30k a year, but I enjoy my days, my work environment and the people I work around. Which to me, at this point in my life, is worth about $150k a year

>Working on master's, which can hopefully be a viable product
>Got an overview of the market, my project can do most stuff the market leader can do
>Advisor is a passionate professor who looks way younger than he really is
>My skills are excellent, way ahead of schedule already on project
>Will try get funding and turn project into a company without SJWifying it, advisor can likely advise on this too
>No Linkedin or muh social media
>Worst case, get job and figure something else
>Actually enjoying programming and working on stuff, it is nice seeing how everything comes together so nicely with good architecture

I agree, kinda.
Computers aren't trash, but they are way over rated. The importance of social media is way overrated (no one cares about twitter bouycots)
They are not reliable, and never will be. AI cars are not going to happen, everyone in the industry knows it. Too much money is being wasted on science fiction instead of simple shit, like backing up your data every day because computers fail.

I have burnout / blackpill but I'm in construction. God I hate it. Let me in IT. I hope a semitruck veers off the road and kills me one day without me realizing.

Linked In wasn't bad, but it's mostly filled with
"I'm unemployed and useless, let me tell you a cliche motivational story" these days

Well done for making it to 30

I got sick and tired of tech after only 2 years

Literally me.

Graduated, started a tech startup, got a huge investment. The next few years were spent writing and selling software.

It was pretty fun, but I realized what a cultural bubble I was in when I started reading philosophy books on asceticism and simple living, so I took a step back and moved to a quite area to retire.

I'm now living off of my money. Don't know what I'm gonna do when it finishes but it'll be something easy and part time.

See while you tech fuckers have been doing your thing amassing wealth and buying 5 million buck single family homes in the South Bay have failed to learn how to take care of themselves outdoors. Cut trees fish cook over fires. Back trailers. Do head gaskets etc. Somone like me has lots of skills but only 100k to work with that took me years of hustling. But if i were to collaborate with Somone looking to check out we could make great things happen. Already have my humble off grid cabin. Looking to start a small commune homestead kinda thing. Lots of dirty hippy women to redpill

I'm right there with you. Linux sysadmin/developer, and after 5 years I'm burned out.

I keep trying to talk my coworkers into becoming farmers with me ;_;

Why don't you invest it, senpai?

Make enough yearly returns on that money to support a simple lifestyle, while still having a large safety net.

Its called a midlife crisis
dont kys fag

That and it's a smorgasbord of recruiters. I get like 5 emails a day "hey man, I see you're in a senior position can I interest you in x job at this new exciting company?"

It's like no bro, I don't want to support your shitty sharded Mongo cluster.

Probably true but I assume it to be something wrong with my brain.

Ex-person. We're not people, not really. People have feelings and desires and goals. I'm what happens when the apoptosis of suicide fails, I'm cancer growing without purpose or control. I can remember having a desire not to be this way but I can't claim to have felt it recently. I accept my death and it's just a game at this point.

Everything you believe is pointless and I am going to spitefully tear down everything you build.

software dev here.
>The thing I used to love the most I CANNOT STAND today. Social media, cultural marxism, censorship, diversity mandates, ignorant self destructive youth brigade and the entire internet of douchebaggery has done me in.

I absolutely feel you.
If my financial situation wasn't as tight as it is currently I'd feel like doing something else would feel really good.
Thought about photographing nature or stuff.
But I don't think doing this as a hobby can generate enough income to live from it without much worries.
So I'm kinda stuck in this hell and it's driving me mad.

Fuck TV, It's been shit for years now.
Fuck getting random messages every few hours on the smartphone.
Fuck all the internet drama bullshit.
Fuck how retardedly stpuid the majority of people out there is.
But also fuck the real life drama bullshit.

It kinda got me in a position where i feel like the whole principle of life and survival in modern days is absolute BS I don't even wanna continue living with.

It sucks really really bad..

Ha let me tell you about it.

>Working as student assistant with fellow feminazi "girls who code" chick
>She has a LinkedIn and all that jazz

>Worked at Walmart , really hectic at times! xD!
>Was student assistant (whoaa)
>Here is a list of my grades
>Trustee of "Girls Who Code" and other SJW orgs
Somehow makes it so it is HECTIC to be a student when it is literally lower paced than fucking middle school if you're a bit above average intelligent.

Literally
>Muh heroic story look at me I'm studying and doing this other stuff it is really really hard

>i wanna become a commune hippie

That's not blackpill, that's just Teddy K. pill.

Learning networking and storage and sysadmin while working in QA, wanna do my 5 years and work as remote admin from a cabin or own a small town computer shop
Why you guys all so bitter, this seems like the best way to do nothing all day

>My LinkedIn page is blank, social media makes me anxious.

Everyone I know pads their linkedin/blogs out PURELY for employers to see. It's fucking pathetic how they do it too.

>find bug in code
>i fix the bug
>colleague thinks the solution is neat
>makes a blog post about it

Or...

>someone has a piece of feedback about our product
>we spend a week trying so solve it
>same guy, a week later, on his blog: HOW I SOLVED OUR BIGGEST CUSTOMER ISSUE

You also just add anything on your linkedin, nobody's gonna check.

How?

Ha, it's click bait chicks. Hire some tits and get the clicks.
I'm not even sure how effective Linked In is. I don't think any company outside of IT has even adopted it in anyway. I used to apply for jobs on Linked In, but it either passed me to the main site of the company anyway, or I never heard back.
Yeah, that too. And it's slowly being more and more infected with Facebook-esque Social Justice shit that you can't publicly debate against.

A lot of it is invested for long term, the whole point for me is the compounding effect--I reinvest any earnings/dividends back in so that in 20 years I can retire properly with at least 5 million.

If I lived off the returns I could in theory retire now but I also would like to travel around the world at least once and buy a big plot of land with a farm so I can go "off the grid".

You've submerged yourself in a life of synthetic virtual reality, no wonder you crave the natural and organic lifestyle. Luckily you can afford the transition. Going off the grid and becoming self-sufficient will help. So will (true) Christianity.

t. blackpilled 32 y/o

Interesting. Im learning to program right now. Python specifically. Ive thought that being a programmer would be a good job for me because im good at solving puzzles and stuff (i would like to be a pentester specifically). But i would also hate to sit around and only work by myself all day. Should i not do it? I find the field fascinating but would it become mundane after years?

Indeed. It's kind of depressing- thankfully at this point my resume looks so good, and I've networked enough, I can to straight to people for a job if I want to leave. LinkedIn is no longer relevant for me.

Ah, I gotchya. I grew up on a 40 acre ranch, and man do I miss it. It's good times user.

That's the great thing about being a homosexual, I suppose. No kids to slave away for.

Get into machining. Machining is awesome, and if you can code, you will be an awesome machinist. CNC machines, lathes, routers, etc. are robots, dude. Robots that will make you anything you can imagine so long as you are able to communicate with them. Also, there really is nothing more manly than cutting metal.

>hurrrr your gay
thanks for contributing to the conversation, nigger

You can learn anything off of jewtube these days. Just pick something interesting and waste the day away looking at tutorials.

I'm 40 and have a relatively secure but uninspiring IT position, and have recently become annoyed by the fact that I don't really know how to do anything useful. I can do some basic bike and home repairs, but I certainly don't know how to build anything.

So what I interpreted the OP of driving at is this: how does one get from here to there. If your only skill set involves manipulating symbolic representations on a screen, what is the best way to transition to something more hands on? Sure, there are YouTube videos, which one can use to do some small scale tinkering, but creating a career out of that seems to have higher barriers to entry than IT. That's probably why I did IT - low barrier to entry.

Unplug them, take your freedom back.

I did not expect so many people in the tech industry to go through this.

I expect it has something to do with overexposure to technology, to the point that it makes you question its purpose.

Like obviously the internet and other achievements were extremely beneficial to us, but after years of being obsessed over the latest phones, hardware parts, programming languages, web frameworks, editors, tools etc. you start wondering what the fuck you're doing with your life.

Wanna be a man? Learn gunsmithing. You can pick shit up off of YouTube relatively easily.

I replaced the trigger on my s&w M&P 9mm about a year ago, it felt great.

DevOps engie here

I took a two year break from doing real IT (did like IT ops but it was more ops than IT)

Really helped me remember why I got into IT in the first place, normie jobs are meh.

You may need a new firm, my boss is totally awesome at my new firm and I can do really whatever I want as long as I do my job. I didn't have that two jobs ago which is how I got burned out in the first place.

Are you actually part of a development team, contributing to the code base, or just kind of supporting the team by doing deployments for them and helping troubleshoot why their apps don't start?

Seriously, why though?
If you continued on and sucked it up, you'd be making +200/yr in US.

I've only got 4yrs under my belt and I make 90/yr in Vancouver (which is still surprisingly good because the wage here is not competitive).

Paying for college for any kids?

dreamer...

I think this is the future. Every screams that automatisation will destroy jobs and so it will. But I believe that people will start to prefer and value different things. People start to appreciate traditional skills and quality products that for example are hand-made.

Absolute comedy

The most I made in a single year was $220k as a senior developer employed by one of Michael Bloomberg's pet projects, I'll not say which as we were a small team. Money is much more desirable when you don't have it. Once you do, you realize that money is only good for one thing, solving problems. Im able to solve and prevent all my life's problems on my current salary. Granted that is only because I own a home, and that's only because of my prior career. If I was paying rent or a mortgage I would feel completely different about it I'm sure. Also, my current income at my age and level of education would be considered by most as a retarded waste. I feel differently about it. My goal is to become a master cabinet maker, and then pass that skill onto someone else. I have precious little time to accomplish this.

do what ted kaczynski did

I became a massage therapist. People that spend 8+hrs a day on a computer have the most broken bodies that i see.

You must be new here if you do not know about this practice we have here of calling other people homosexual.

The statement stands however that the "normal" way of life is to have children at 40, which drastically reduces your potential for the kind of alternative path that you described.

Even more on topic, I'm also frustrated with my job, although I'm not in IT or tech but in healthcare. People are fucking ungrateful and often demeaning, they complain and make it your fault if they don't get better. Also, you're expected to be extra nice and to extra hours and give them all kinds of
privileges because after all it's not about mundane money but about the arcane good of their health and life, so you would be evil to not consider that. And then at the same time you know that if they had to pay all of this themselves they wouldn't be here now (not in the US obviously). But I'm also frustrated by the little statistical coding in R that I still do. Maybe the point is just that working sucks.

All three of those jobs will be gone in 5 years.

Lrn2script and you'll be the one who is automating those jobs and banking.

I'm done with our entire society. We have the technology to allow ourselves to be free, but we're nothing more than slaves.