Why is Western Europe Superior?

Why is Western Europe Superior?

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I've heard its the result of some guns, germs and steel.

Slavs are the black sheep of the white race. Even after Germany was destroyed and forced to pay reparations to the Soviet Union, East Germany became the most successful Warsaw Pact country.

Why is Wales so poor?

It's a rural, hilly country. Has neither great farmland nor great industry.

If wealth = superiority then you must think Jews are the master race.

coz they haven't been enslaved by commies

Th*tcher

calm down nigger, greece and spain weren`t liberated by soviet army, they are still shit, so as your larping shithole

favorable river system (Rhine)

subhuman welsh

You could go a little bit more Esoteric:
The Hajnal line could explain the IQ divide. By Extension this economic development.

hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/big-summary-post-on-the-hajnal-line/

So in essence, it's claimed that Catholic Church and Manorism has broken up traditional extended family and introduced "Nuclear Family". It's a good theory.

I would add two things:

-Geography. Eastern Europe has less access to the sea and trade, which was always main wealth source for nations. Russia in general is landlocked. The land is generally fertile and can support the popoulation, but because of poor transportation and lack of extensive river network that are in say, Rhine valley, or Mississippi river network (which is hugely beneficial to US Agriculture), food in Russia, may simply rot in field, because there's nobody to carry it to major markets. Who are uncoincidentally by the sea.

-Communism. It really destroys your nation. Not even once.

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I did some quick digging to prove the point about shipping costs.

A close second in costs, per ton per mile is Rail. Though it is 3 times more. (one source disagrees, but it may be some local thing).

So yeah, Russia should expand it's rail infrastructure and in couple centuries they should catch up to Europe.

>Didn't have nearly a century of communism
>Access to colonial empires and better resources
>More liberal governments throughout most of their history

So why didn't the East do that as well?

wait what about turku, im pretty sure they are in the dark green zone. and åland?

What is wrong with the Danube and/or the Volga?

Anyway the river system being the cause for the riches of the west is quite ridiculus, unless i've travelled back in time and it's now the year 800.

>southwestern bulgaria
what in the FUCK?

It's not that simple. East Germany wasn't so destroyed over the war. Besides, there was already huge infrastructure there. And it was pumped with money from West Germany to equalize the economy. The difference in infrastructure can still be seen in Poland, where western (ex German) lands are more wealthy than eastern.
And don't even get me started on reparations. Our communist government renounced them, while Germany had the Marshal's Plan.
All in all you're really ignorant on the subject.

Naples and Southern Spain are outliers. Do they teach outliers in Russia?

The Eastern European countries did not have good access to the sea. They were also poor as shit and were too busy being fukkd by their neighbors.

Dunno which is worse, the commie red side or the muslim green side.

It isn't
Sage

that's abuse of the word outlier kiwi scum

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Why are Romanians moving to Spain and Italy?

>East Germany wasn't so destroyed over the war
This wrong it was almost completely destroyed and the Russians took everything of worth.
>huge infrastructure there
No it wasn't. Russia exploited them heavily over the years, it was one of the few UdSSR countries with some degree productivity, because of the German work ethics, while in other states few really wanted to work for the state.
>money from western Germany
True and guess what all the Eastern European states get from (western) Germany, yep right money to equalize the economy.
>western (ex German) lands are more wealthy than eastern
True to some extend germans build all the infrastructure there and even today there are still German genes around which explains why it's somewhat decent there.

>This is
Obviously

this should have been a fpbp from our gypsy friend here.

Hmm , to work . I myself will never leave my country

I'm sort of surprised Iceland does as well as it does.

Poland was selling grains and other food to West in tonnes in XVI-XVII century and we still went to shit. Stupid nobility.

Come say to my face mudslime ,

Communism popped up because the Emperor and his court were murderous tyrants who treated citizens as slaves. If Nick II had any semblance of a brain, there would be no need for revolution.

>Spain and Italy
>work
I've heard unemployment is horrible there, any truth to this?

>German genes

Like i previously stated ,I never left to work elsewhere. I heard foreigners work more there than the locals tho.

Yeah, well you were selling to west who also has good access to food.
Agriculture is not the wealthmaker. It's a good base to start on though. And pre-Industrial revolution Poland was alright (excluding Russian Occupation). But you didn't have that much access to sea, after Prussians took the baltic coast.

It seems that after IR, shipping costs became more pronounced, because you had new wealth making - like Industrial machinery or cars. Who require a lot of raw material to be shipped to factories and finished goods to be shipped somewhere else. Eastern Europe, just missed a lot on Industrial Revolution.

You could've had Mencheviks or even Liberals. But no, you had to have Jewish Bolsheviks.

Czar wasn't that bad, he has implemented a lot of modernization reforms. Sure, Bolsheviks have implemented rapid Industrializaton by murdering a lot of people. Czar would've killed a lot less and not deliberately and nonchalantly.

That book is total bullshit.

It used to be superior due to not having communists running rampart.

Now... Not so much.
Eastern Europe i catching up slowly but surely while western Europe is shooting it self in the foot by reviving and implementing failed socialist ideologies and importing massive ammounts of people who won't work and will only leech of the gubmint gibs.

too busy bumming sheep

Reminder that eastern poland is still a shithole but not the west.

The roads were still there. And it's easy to do a research showing that. Infrastructure was also there. I don't know what reason you have for lying. Or maybe you're also just as ignorant as the american. Germans completely ruined Poland. 90% of Warsaw was destroyed. They didn't pay a dime of reparations for that. They robbed anything worthy of robbing. Then Soviets took the rest. And these are facts. That's the justice in this world.

And yet you dare to speak all high and mighty how you are better than slavs, because you got wealthy on death and atrocities. Just fuck you, you stupid cunts.

>that Bucharest

At the time, they needed more than they made, so no, they didn't have good access to food.
When we were selling that food to the West we were obnoxiously rich, but that money went mostly for crack and hookers (or whatever they did in their free time) instead of industry, so when West started to feed itself we were poor again. We had our chance and we blew it.
Yeah, we missed to a certain degree the industrial revolution - while PLC didn't industrialise as much as it should, """Polish Kingdom""" was (AFAIK) industrial powerhouse in XIX century Russia, which didn't really caught up with the West until Bolsheviks took over.

East Germans are German-speaking Slavs, dude.

I'm not sure there was anything to industrialize in the 17th century.

It's not that you missed. There probably couldn't have been any Polish Industrialization, because you didn't have access to good, cheap raw materials. At best you could've had some light Industry. Germany nearby had lots of Coal, Iron and good River network. It's hard to see how Poland could've done anything.

Funny part is, in the 21st century, where raw materials are important, but not as much Poland could have a good chance to be a Industrial powerhouse.
Especially since Germany, France and UK want to get Blacked. A pretty big white country could be huge deal.

One can dream

The infrastructure there wasn't good maybe compared to the infrastructure in most slavic countries it was still somewhat decent.
>Germans ruined Warsaw
The city wasn't great to begin with. Then there were the poles provoking us and not wanting to give back the land they had stolen. I have relatives from there, who witnessed first hand how poles treated Germans. The poles were incredibly hateful, because they couldn't stand that other people managed to build through beautiful city's and communities through hard work in combination with intelligence. Why should Germany pay reparations to those, who did everything to provoke the war, also I don't really buy that bullshit about how much Germans have stolen. My great grandfather as soldier gave parts of his family silver set to poor Baltic families in order for them not to starve to death. Also much of Warsaw was trashed by poles rioting and plundering themselves. You are just butthurt about most of your country still being crap after the Germany and to some extent others gave billions to you.

tfw in the red

>LE POLAND PROVOKED WAR WE DINDU NUFFIN

I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing about the Czechs had they fired at Germans on their way to Prague.


>demand sudetenland
>claim its your last territorial demand in Europe
>WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ME TO WAR?
>get sudetenland
>take the rest of the czech state afterwards anyway
>make new territorial demands, this time on Poland
>poland says no
>YOU PROVOKED WAR

Protestantism

Catholic Bavaria seems pretty rich

We are white and we did not have communism for 60 years

You are right. Only people as stupid as us would like the idea of communism and enforce it.

>the richest parts of Germany and Netherlands, the two flagpole protestant nations, are Catholic.
really jogging the noggin

Just shut your mouth, keep your chump change and disappear already from maps. You bring nothing, but misfortune to Europe and its people. Fucking smug about their history krauts are even worse than self hating ones.

Nice lying again. I have relatives from far inside what is currently polish territory and still less than 1 percent genes of Slavic origin and the East Germans are German with sporadically some little Eastern European blood (like five or ten percent in some).

Tbh most of the people that move there steal and work the lowest job possible.The work enviroment is horrible and natives are not willing to take those jobs.I know people who ve been robbed of their id and put on farms in the middle of nowhere to work like slaves

In Italy is really bad
Especially in the south
I live in Sardinia and to work in a field you need to be overlyqualified and to know at least 3 languages if you wish to work in the turism market
The North as always is in a better shape
Worst than everyone else are Sicily and the rest of the south where mafia and organized crime make it really difficult to open businesses and create wealth
Also, every money spent to help them is money given to the mafia
It's an endless cycle

feels goo to be in dark green

Low cost of living and low wages. Surprised NI isn't on there for the same reason.

Also, North Yorks has a per capita income far higher than that.

people unironically denying germanic superiority over slavs
its easy to call niggers inferior but why is it so hard to call yourself inferior to someone else?

WARNING: Whenever you see threads on Sup Forums asking:

> Why is X European nation superior to Y European nation?
> Are X Europeans white?
> X European hate thread

Consider, WHO may benefit from divisiveness and lack of solidarity between European nations and peoples? (Answers more than welcome, though this is pretty rhetorical)

This thread is now a "Say something nice about East/West Europe thread, whichever is your opposite side"

East Europe:

> Good beer
> Many girls are total QTs
> Strong nationalism - We ought to follow their example

I agree only Sudetenland was legitimate. However this wasn't the case in Poland those were old German territories completely legitimate.

>implying germanic/anglo race is superior

basically it's bunch of ugly toothless dudes destroying europe in the same way as arabs are doing it right now over years, let's not forget that you were the race that destroyed aqueducts and died of thirst and diseases, you really gotta be different from other races to do that

You are like about 2 centuries late.

I am not slavic.But I can t deny how superior germans are to me and how superior germany is to eastern countries.My country being a melting pot of european peoples, I must say, when I see a romanian slav it s pretty easy to tell, they have red and bloated faces because they still drink like it s 1950.

Hahahaha

ITT idiots falling for basic kike divide and conquer tactics

SO?

Turns out it's not that bad being 'backwards'.

Not a bad thing, the dead cannot pass the AIDS.

Lol

Yea it must always be the kikes...
Many of us don't care about your little muh white race shit.
Only the strongest races survive, if you're dying out it means you're weak.

>don't care about whites
>posting in a thread about whites

In THAT regard, slavs are superior.They are not invaded and praising the invaders like other nations

>I agree only Sudetenland was legitimate
Okay.
>However this wasn't the case in Poland those were old German territories completely legitimate.
Great.

So, according to you, after Germany had its (just) territorial demands met by a sovereign nation, with international approval, it went back on its word, breaking the treaty (and Hitlers own words) and illegitimately occupied the country regardless.


Tell me, what train of thought then leads you to the conclusion that Poland provoked war when it turned down demands for territory from the same German state? Churchill was right, feeding the crocodile hoping it eats you last is not a solution. Germany had no integrity left, any "deal" meant nothing. Poland could met all German demands and it would end up occupied regardless.

>However this wasn't the case in Poland those were old German territories completely legitimate.
Those territories taken from Poland during the partitions? Tell me, how far back can we go in history? I presume it stops when Germans want it to?

>Why is Western Europe Superior?

This is the theme of the thread, now go away christfag.

>you
im literally serbian

As far as I know Romanians are not slavs.
And as far as I know they are dying out aswell.
Not to mention that they're on the "defensive" whereas Arabs, blacks and Chinks are invading you.

I take it back. You clearly have an IQ too low to be a kike

why did croatia have to have western europeans build all your beautiful sites?

Quit it with your strawman argument. I never said it WAS them posting this thread.

I asked WHO does European divisiveness benefit. How could SOMEONE benefit from nations and peoples without a sense of cohesion, in group loyalty, united against hostile outside forces?

Never said we are slavs.There are slavs here but not that many.And we are dying off at a faster pace than a lot of western countries.went from 24 million to 19 million by 2040 there will be about 13 million, and of those 13 mill there will probably 9 million hungarians romanians and germans and 4 million gypsies.who will probably destroy everything that s left

A christfag tells someone he has low IQ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm sorry whenever some retard on Sup Forums says "them" or "who" it's implied in 99,9% cases on Jews.

You can never get a good idea of what is going on from these maps because it's counted in Euros. In Bulgaria you can buy a lot more than with a Lev, but in their respective places the buying power is basically the same.

>numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Germany
Judging by this site a loaf of bread is 1.27 Euros, here it's 0.90 levs.

Also look at the pic related, people here simply don't pretend they have money.

I feel sorry for you

>Not to mention that they're on the "defensive" whereas Arabs, blacks and Chinks are invading you.
Suuure. All those blacks, arabs and chinese in eastern europe. Fucking idiot.

Superior amount of muslims you mean?

Half of Romanians are slavs in denial, their language, before being reformed, had shitload of slavic loanwords. Old Church Slavonic was used as the written language in Wallachia as written latin was not preserved.

Not for long though.

>4 years old png made just after recovering from 8s crisis
Ebin

>debt is evil
stay poor

no mongol genes

> a christfag feels sorry for me

Not as much as I feel sorry for you christnewfag.

If they would be a better race they would invade others. That was my point.

i am slavic and i recognize that all the best products i have are from germany and japan, and that i live in an anglo-germanic country
some countries and people just do things better
but i like slavic culture better than jewish western culture
i like drinking and fun

Andalucía and Extremadura fucking up our statistics, as usal.

I chose this flag at random so that people would have to actually address my arguments instead of insulting my country as an argument in typical low IQ fashion. Looks like you found a way around that though.

Do I look slavic to you mister slavic mania?

But you gave out no arguments, instead you assumed I'm a Jew.

Lithuanian fag here. It's because our goverment is full of ex commies who try to survive in capitalism. We could be great again, but some old fags afraid of listening the nation.

Just fuck off alredy, shill