ITT we discuss Portuguese culture, politics, and state of affairs
Today's topic: André Ventura and the Gypsy Situation
Invited - Spainbros, Oldest Allys, Ameribros, former colonies, Germanbros and all good Christians
Not Invited - Brazillians and Moors
VIP - the two anons from Universidade do Minho
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Bumping for longest ally
RIP Lisbon
Damn...
Graças a Deus que somos "atrasados", mesmo assim não impedimos o país de cair nas mâos destes traídores filhos da puta que tomaram rédeas de Portugal, mas não sofremos tanto como certos países ditos "avançados"
>Portugal
It sucks, people hate each other, refugees flee the place, politicians are corrupt and women are goblins.
Bye.
Mesmo sendo um país atrasado económicamente e financialmente, a saudade do grande Império Português dá-me dor no caração.
>almost forgot
Heres the "restauration anthem" (instrumental version) or, as I like to call it, "fuck the spaniards!"
>srls, the anthem is about fucking the spanish
Good afternoon, Portubros.
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Are you good catholics?
>Refugees flee the place.
I think i'm missing something here. Since when is that a bad thing?
FUCK MAN!!!! ANDRE VENTURA FOR PM!!!!
We are so shit refugees don't want us
They want Central/Northern Europe gibsmedats, Muslim/Levantine community together and mosques.
What's the point of this thread? It's always the same thing on repeat.
bump for spainbro
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>"I owe to Providence the grace of being poor: without goods that are worth to me, I am not bound to the wheel of fortune, nor have they ever made me promisses of profitable places, riches, ostentations. And to earn, in the modesty, that I lived, the daily bread, I do not have to get entangled in the plot of business or compromising solidarity. I am an independent man.
>I have never set eyes on political clienteles or sought to form a party to support me, but instead, to pay for their support by defining the political orientation and limits of government action. I have never flattered men or the masses, before whom so many bow in the world today, in subserviences that are a hypocrisy or an abjection. If I defend their interests tenaciously, if I take care of the claims of the humble, it is by their own merit and the imposition of my conscience as ruler, not by partisan connections or electoral commitments that hinder me. I am, as far as I can be, a free man.
>I never used insult or aggression so that worthy men would consider themselves unable to cooperate. In examining the sad periods that preceded us, I always endeavored to demonstrate how poorly the qualities of men were against the implacable force of the errors they were obliged to serve. And it is not my fault, if after twenty years of a luminous experience, they themselves continue to present themselves as entirely responsible for the previous debacle, since they are content to proclaim the goodness of the principles and their correct application to the Portuguese Nation. I was human.
> think I have gained, thanks to serious work, my academic degrees, the right to perform my university functions. Forced to lose contact with the sciences I cultivated, but not with the methods of work, I can say that I have found them again from the angle of your practical application; And, leafing through the books less, I labored in years of study, of meditation, of intense action, of better understanding of men and of life. I was able to clarify myself.
>I have no ambitions. I do not wish to rise higher, and I understand that in due time another should come to take my place, to offer the Nation's service greater capacity for work, to tear new horizons, and to try new ideas or methods. I can not boast, for I have not fulfilled all that I desired; But I have done enough to not be able to say that I failed in my mission. I do not feel the bitterness of those who deserved or undeservedly did not see their efforts crowned and curse men and luck. I do not even remember having received offenses that in compensation induce me to be less fair or impartial. On the contrary, in this country, where public men are so slightly appreciated and depreciated, I enjoy the rare privilege of general respect. I was able to serve.
>(...rants about the role of the nation and comunism...)
Fuck this shithole. I'm glad I'm moving to America next year, gonna enlist in the marines. Sick of this moor-filled 3rd world country.
Exactly. The Last was about Tancos arms robbery and none dared to research for news in the media or discuss it. they are just bringing memes and copy pastas from New State and Monarchy. Some don't even speak English in contrary to Sup Forums board rules.
most portuguese dont look brown. chill.
>I'm glad I'm moving to America next year, gonna enlist in the marines
You can do that!?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HOW THE FUCK IT´S THEIR FAULT? PUNISH THOSE VIRTUE SIGNALNG FUCKS THAT ABANDON THEIR ANIMALS THAT VOTED FOR THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
>brazilians not invited
Portugal became horribly irrelevant after you provoked the independence. Don't dismiss the best part of the old empire.
Yes, you can enlist with a green card. What you can't do is become an officer.
Baza daqui caralho são mouros como tu que me dão a volta á barriga. Ainda por cima acabei de comer uma bela de uma alheira com um bom vinho a acompanhar mouro da merda pó crl
>you provoked the independence
Sadly it´s true, not the rest tough, best part was without doubt asia
maybe the coolest but not nearly as rich or with a great potential for the future. what could have we been if we stood together.
anyway why do you hate us so much? we share blood, culture and history.
Sol Interview with andré Ventura
Archived link (archive.is) and translated to English: archive.is
Original source: sol.sapo.pt
Brasil is a broken free extent of "Portugal". The corpse leftover is Portugal.
Both went into shit. If Brasil pulled a United States on Portugal you would've been first world by now.
Man I would just love to see some real numbers here's the x amount of gypsies in Loures and the Y amount of them live on subsided. That's the only piece of info we need
Why are Portuguese people on Sup Forums so fucking depressive. Go out and make the country great again ffs
I don't speak for the OP but Hues often derail /pp/ threads: either diaspora either Brazilian flags. We talk about some of low class diaspora that comes here and that brings crimes.
>Why are Portuguese people on Sup Forums so fucking depressive.
Can someone tell him?
Went to spain/portugal. More gypsies in your countries than in Romania/Bulgaria/Ukraine/Macedonia combined.
shitholes.
I love hearing this man speak. Such a shame he's gone. However, I'm glad he's not here to see what our country has become. I'm pretty sure he'd be devastated. ;~;
>we share blood, culture and history
At least half of you don´t, that plus the kids that were indoctrinated by socialist teatchers, ranting on us as "opressors and robbers and shiet", plus most brazillian imigrants here are either whores or poor and so on so on...
I do believe tough that it´s a consequence of the modern era and affirmitive action that these exposure of idiots happens, these morons are allowed to have computers whereas it used to be meritocratic, and imigration to
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>More gypsies in your countries than in Romania/Bulgaria/Ukraine/Macedonia combined.
Impossible. Another American speaking from the butt.
It´s literally genetic douchebag
>I cant believe you did it
>muh shithole
>muh Costa
>muh corruption
Do something about it. Look at how Taiwan and South Korea looked in the 1980s, they were decades behind Portugal. Look at them nowadays. Do something. Engage in politics. Create enterprises. Did you know that 84 % of Portuguese oranges in 2014 were exported under Spanish labels?
Because Brazil is pic related.
Portugal and Spain are European, with european food, european sentiments, european manners and mannerisms, european bureaucracy and government, european identity, european culture, european arts and music, european architecture and religion.
Where will you find me a Baroque Lute Luthier in Brazil?
Brazil is south american mexicans but with more crime, more murder, and more blacks. Horrible.
Yes we know user, and lot more shit, gob regulations castrate us and we can do jack shit, we have to wait for next elections now because it´s not under a socialist/comunist gob that it will change
Silly season is being bad for them, and i see a storm brewing in public education next
>Invited - former colonies
>Not invited - Brazilian's
wat
Anyways, why do Portuguese people hate gypsies?
When D. João came here, people got so excited that there were plans on expanding the empire by conquering the rebel Spanish colonies. With Portugal's navy and diplomatic skills, we'd at least get to keep Cisplatina and maybe grab some lands off of Argentina, would be cool. Also we wouldn't have signed such bad trade deals due to inexperience.
Maybe not as rich as the US, but we would be far more powerful nonetheless and completely dominant on the south Atlantic.
oh i see. don't hate us all though, we arent all cariocas or nordestinos.
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What did the Germans mean by this?
Everyone hates gypsies, even swedecucks
>It's genetic.
Go fuck yourselves.
Everyone hates gypsies - they destroy every country they're in - and that all of Europe right now. Met a romanian girl in New York that almost started crying when she told me most people in Europe assume Romanians are gypsies, and she got fired from a bar in London because of it.
She looked white, with dirty blonde hair, but since Romani sounds like Romanian, people assume Romanians are all gypsies. She told me it was the main reason to change her name and move to the US.
Crazy how gypsies can ruin a white country like that.
Portuguese democracy has never worked, it doesn't work with the Portuguese mindset. It's a country of explorers, creators and pioneers, and not of sedentary 9-to-5 workers whose actions are independent from their government.
Yeah, you need to throw those Socialists out and at least reform your job market, along with better funding of school staff and more "inviting" conditions for companies to settle down there. There's so much to do and you guys can definitely do it, but you need to get the depression out of your collective mindset first.
Have you ever met Welsh or Irish gypsies? They are absolute scum tier.
The "Romani" thing is literally by Soros. It's a succesful attempt to associate them witg Romania, Rome and Europe, even though they have nothing to do with any of those. The excuse is their word of people, bit it's pronounced goma.
>i see a storm brewing in public education next
Impossible. The only protests in public esucation are done by FENPROF, and FENPROF literally only does what PCP tells them to do. And PCP doesn't want to attach the government. Not now
They will only damage the government enough for things staying the way they were 2015. Their plan is for PS to win elections, but needing support of both BE and PCP to form a majority. BE wants to get rid of PCP so they can be part of government. None of them wants an absolute majority by PS, because that would completely destroy both BE and PCP
you know nothing about Brazil, burger. If you think this is nothing but a big ass favela filled with Africans, do yourself a favor and go suck a dick.
Brazil mirrored Portugal and France for a good century and half after the Independence, if nothing else it was you who contributed on un-europeizing (so to say) us by exporting your shit culture and ideologies. We became a republic due to your influence, after all.
Nope, Romani gipsies are even worse than Irish/welsh Travellers. They originated at North India, probably were low caste in India expelled.
Irish and Welsh gypsies enslave Eastern Europeans on farms. Rape them and torture/kill them. Romani's just steal things and shit in the streets.
I blame Fado and leftism.
Can PPM be memed to replace PAN as the new Meme Party in the Assembley?
Someone photoshop the lil half-nog, half-polock kids head into that bowl. Please!
You have a beautiful country, surely that is enough to cheer you up? You've dodged the mass immigration bullet as well.
You could be a lot worse so just count your blessings.
Learn to take a joke
Gob needs to stay out of economy, politics and money together are always bad news, only a naive marxist cunt (of wich we are full) believes the state has self controll, they trully believe the state is God and not a person so the state doesnt need to steal
anyone with a brain hates gypsies, scum of the earth. the only people that dont have only seen them in 'the hunchback of notre dame'
when i first moved to stockholm, i thought there must be a government department which distributes the gypsies, as there is not a single supermarket without one sitting in front of it.
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Welfare abuse, National Health System abuse, violent crime, illegal arms deals / drugs sales,...
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I guess it's hard to understand some of us and why we're so depressed. You'd probably need to be born and raised here.
We dodged that bullet because we're broke. In fact, our country is broke on so many levels that we might as well just sell the rest of our country to you, Spain or China.
Do whatever the fuck you want with this crap. Good luck with the commies and the leftists.
Nuke the Alentejo desu, fucking commie factory
State capitalism is a good to make things head into the right direction, you can't go from your current model of state socialism to a fully open, liberal market without it becoming some kind Eastern European shithole with neoliberal policies.
is a good starting point* fuck
Sure thing my fellow nip. Took 3 mins. Hope you like. Daily reminder: Even the worst shithole brazilians are superior to asians.
Greatest Ally.
kek. Lisbon deserves this. I'm actually in favor of bullfighting just to trigger these chicken hugging commies.
Guy is a retard, he's just saying this shit for shock value and to get on TV.
Part II about the Gipsies
>menorah
Really made me think
Why are the Portuguese normal but other Iberians autistic weirdos like the Spanish, Catalans and Basques?
t. works in a place where half the people are Portubros
>Povo a reclamar que não há vagas que chegue nos concursos
>O concurso atrasa-se e sabe-se através de fugas de informação, ainda não saíram tudo porque o governo anda a guardar informação
>Estão a adiar os concursos das creches e primárias, porque vão despedir educadoras, os putos vão para as privadas (as mesmas em que o monhé cortou)
>Andaram professores a trabalhar para subir escalões, querem repor tudo de novo para 2010, ou seja se eras 3 escalão em 2010 e subis-te para 5, voltas para 3 escalão, mantém em conta que as carreiras estiveram congeladas, ou seja não só muitos perdem anos de trabalho acérrimo para ser promovidos, alguns nunca terão recebido o aumento que era devido
>Para lidar com o último problema que referi, como disse estão a despedir funcionários, pois fizeram de bandeira as "reposições", mas mesmo assim só lá para Setembro de 2019
I'm portuguese, despite the flag, and wish I was born in a cooler country, like Norway.
I try to like Portugal, I really do, but the country looks so uncool. It has history of pwning others and there's a quiet guy archetype, yes, but that's it. No cool stereotype like undeserving russians have, architecture doesn't look as cool as other europeans' (although I like it's distinction), music is tied to depression...
Despite the average folk seemingly not mirroring it, most famous people from Portugal look like fucking gypsies, italians or something I don't know. They're brown and ugly, pasty manlets. Goes to confirm the "portuguese are not white" memes, in spite of research identifying us as as white blooded as any other euro.
I wish my fellow countryman were cool aryans and angelic goddesses, or at least the famous folk were closer to it like the average folk.
>State capitalism is a good to make things head into the right direction, you can't go from your current model of state socialism to a fully open, liberal market without it becoming some kind Eastern European shithole with neoliberal policies.
No, we can't, we need to go on full neoliberal, no, full libertarian, for things to change. Corruption at high levels of the state is too deep in here. We need to clean it all swiftly
It doesn't matter: FENPROF won't allow any serious protests about it. The only way for it is to go independent of the sindicates, like in Venezuela, but I doubt it
If that same shit happened with Passos, it would be like Apocalypse had fallen on Earth
> he's just saying this shit for shock value and to get on TV.
Loures is basically disputed by PS (Socialist Party - social democracy, pro-europeanism, third way) vs CDU (coalition of marxist-leninists hard-liners + their satellite/puppet ecologist party).
PSD bringing there a meme candidate it doesn't make a difference. At least it tries to test general population with populist view with his statements. It's a good case study for further electoral disputes.
Just so you can understand how bad our country is:
A person or a group of persons stole military weaponry from a weapons' cache facility which ought be heavily guarded and secured.
1 - There was no one guarding the weapons;
2 - The facility has an unfinished fence around it and the old one is weak, rusty and had holes;
3 - There was absolutely NO surveillance equipment installed.
WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DOESN'T GUARD ITS OWN WEAPONS? ARE THESE PEOPLE FUCKING KIDDING?
This country is a fucking joke. No one cares about anything. No one cares about showing up on time. No one cares if their job is done right. Mediocrity is praised.
No one fucking cares about anything.
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Yes we can, we are a developed country alredy, we alredy have infrastructure built
The problem is political because the gob is used as steping stone to other public and private jobs, as such debts, taxes laws and all sort of shit they should enforce are not enforced, add to that social welfare and you have a public and private sector full of debts and on a constant cycle of losing money, cut on the less productive shit and lower taxes, while imposing a pro portuguese proteccionist economic policy (instead of a EU one) and we get back on our feet
as of portuguese and italian descent i demand an invitation to post on this thread
Going full neolibtard just turns you into new Romania. Collectivist people will directly turn their backs if they see it going from one extrem to another, and if anything this only triggers a new, even more socialist state. And this also makes corruption worse.
Portuguese architecture is really cool though. It's probably one of the smallest territories with it's own very distinctive architecture imho.
I heard a bit of how interview today and he sounded like a complete retard. That's what I'm saying.
Still it might be good for the lulz and butthurt gypsies
>portugal
>relevant
True
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see , this will just trigger the leftist part of the country go definitely retard and it just enhances corruption. It's exactly what happened in several Balkan countries.
Protectionism doesn't work if your productivity and average education is low, especially with braindrain is severe and you don't fucking fund education.
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>WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DOESN'T GUARD ITS OWN WEAPONS?
I've seen a quick report on RTP3 that weapons theft also happens in other bases in Europe. Not praising mediocrity, I also got mad.
That RTP report, other statements from Armed Forces and defense minister: it was 34k euros in weaponry stolen, some of weapons
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>Went to Portugal about 15 years ago
>Stayed in some based villa in the hills
>The road leading up to it was full of sheds
>Eventually realised they weren't sheds (or maybe they still were), but people were living in them
>Notice that villa only has like a 2 foot wall around it
>Don't get any sleep
Were they gypsies or just poor? Everyone in the actual town was cool, but these roadside people not so much.
Same shit happened in France last year, it's not that rare.
>poland
Shithole country as well. Fits in nicely on a portugal/spain/brazil thread.
Did they looked like pic related - physically? Skin tone equal to some Indians?
Skin tone was very similar, but I just assumed they were dirty. They had hens and whatnot in the houses(?) that's why I thought they were sheds/coops. Few women and no children around though, it seemed to be mainly men in their 40s onward.
Says the pot to the kettle.
If the sheds were made from some than it wasn't gypsies.
Hi Poland bro.
definitely gypsies m8
Stone
Definitely explains why the place next door had four rottweilers roaming their grounds.
Nah not stone, senpai. It was just wood and corrugated iron. I'm 90% sure there wasn't even windows. We didn't get any trouble or anything and everyone else was really cool, I just thought it was odd.
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"""First assumed gay gipsies""" case in the Roma community in Portugal kek