Friendly reminder that when Obamacare gets repealed, 99% of American Sup Forumstards immediately lose their healthcare

Friendly reminder that when Obamacare gets repealed, 99% of American Sup Forumstards immediately lose their healthcare.

Sort yourself out Krautcuck . Most working people end up paying the fine for not having Onigger care because it was cheaper than buying insurance a total waste that does none of the things it was sold as.

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For small things, it's far cheaper to go to a nearby clinic and pay cash. Obamacare benefits big insurance and big pharma, not the people. Oh sure, some may get a free ride, but young people are forced to pay ridiculous premiums when they're mostly healthy. Also, Congress gets their own plan and there are many exemptions for Obama's buddies. Based on lies, Obamacare is a disastrous fraud.

>it's far cheaper to go to a nearby clinic and pay cash
lol

> obamacare helps business

?????

If you're a small business with 50 employees you're FUCKED

I wish they had just called it the ACA instead of Obamacare. Now we're going to have countless iterations of -care used to label every damn thing. I just hope it doesn't get as overused as the -gate suffix.

>he thinks i have Obamacare

its too expensive for the middle class here. why the fuck do you think white working class people voted for Trump and republicans?

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>gives you the freedom to start your own business

99%. Care to back that up with any real evide... ah what are we kidding. The left doesn't need evidence to spew their shit.

Anytime anybody on the internet mentions "99%", you can be sure it's a totally accurate and well researched statistic

Thats right b@tch, and we are loving it!!

Sigh. German thinks he understand the situation because he saw a cartoon.
It ain't your universal socialized medicine German and it never was. It's expensive as hell, it's FORCED on people to have to pay it, and it's the biggest bunch of bullshit regarding healthcare the world has ever seen.
Imagine if we took away your socialized medicine and replaced it with something VERY expensive you had to PAY for? Would you be happy?
Then why the fuck are you promoting here you stupid shit?

Listen mohammed, the working stiff cant even afford regular bills never leaa fucking obama care, all I'll lose is the obama care FINE ((they)) issue me for not being able to afford healthcare. Dont you have more German shit to worry about.

>A blog I read by a libcuck in America says ObamaCare was good and TrumpCare was bad so that means it has to be true.
Come on, at least try to research or are you only fluent in Turkish and Arabic?

>tfw insurance through my job

I don't really care about Obamacare, actually. I'd have voted democrat if Hillary wasn't anti-gun.

>I, a healthy 28 year old male, with good genetics, will no longer be forced to by the government to buy a private product I don't need.

Sounds good to me.

>obamacare helps business

>speculum
That is my fetish
Go, Trump, Go!

OMG I can't believe Trump is outlawing healthcare.

>he doesn't know about the cash rates

Nigger, my insurance went to shit after the ACA. I lost my plan because as a FUCKING WHITE MALE I wasn't covered for pregnancies. (Because men can get pregnant too, shitlord!)

I lost my insurance recently due to a move and a job change. Haven't picked up new coverage. And I've saved a fuckton of money. Every single prescription I've picked up has been CHEAPER than my out-of-pocket when I was insured.

Even my doctors visits and xrays have been cheaper than what my deductibles were without insurance with a negotiated cash payment. And I'm not having to pay for insurance on top of that.

Fuck Niggercare. It's a worthless system.

i cant even sense the bias of this image

So you're pro universal healthcare then?

>Oh sure, some may get a free ride, but young people are forced to pay ridiculous premiums when they're mostly healthy.
I thought one of the major improvements brought about by Obamacare was that people age 18-25 could remain on their parents/guardians healthcare plan, which is a much cheaper alternative than starting your own account.

really hope there isnt enoughe votes

>gives you freedom to start your own business

It actually hinders small business from growing past 30 or so employees. Thanks for barrier to entry, corporate cock sucking faggot.

Obama and his legacy is being actively deleted from history.

Obamacare is used by millions of illegal spics, so it has to go.

*big business

Pic forgot the one positive that outweighs them all: I no longer have to pay for other people.

I am not your slave. It is not my duty to pay for people who were too stupid to become successful. Try being less of an idiot in your next life because it's pretty fucking easy to pick a career that makes you wealthy.

>small business
>50 employees

Actual poorfag here.
Got lucky and found a menial job that pays for health insurance.
Almost lost it twice thanks to Obamacare and price hikes. If it's repealed my job can afford the health insurance and maybe even a better plan.
Also, Charlie Gard. America is currently the only country that matters that doesn't have ridiculous laws that allow the government to kill your child.

Hillary's views probably aren't crazy. Unfortunately she's a corporate whore and a war monger.

My premiums, deductibles, and cost of prescriptions went up every single year after the passage of the Affordable Care Act. My primary care physician dropped HAP (my insurance) and I had to pay extra during tax season because I under-estimated my 2016 earnings by about 10 percent.

Unless you have some exotic disease, or make less than 13k a year, Obamacare objectively sucks.

>I don't have to pay a black doctor

Sup Forums wins again!

>gives you the freedom to start a small business
Huh?
>attempts to address healthcare crisis
He created the healthcare crisis lol

>trumps plan endangers political future of anyone who supports it
If I recall, Republicans swept the house, governorships etc in 2010, swept the senate in 2014 and took the presidency all on the promise of repealing obamacare

What fucking world does this person live in?

Anglo's are mentally retarded

I find it incredibly hard to believe that your prescriptions cost less without insurance than they do with insurance. In fact, you'd be fined for not having insurance under ACA because you're a walking liability. You may have to pay higher premiums with coverage, but that's essentially the point of ACA, you pay higher premiums for better (and cheaper) access to PREVENTATIVE health care. The idea was to create a healthier nation that can afford to go to the doctor for routine checkups to avoid the staggering costs of hospital visits and surgeries. ACA is designed to be cheaper over time to previous healthcare models, both for citizens and businesses.

And as someone who's lived on both sides of the spectrum (with coverage and without) it's much more expensive to pay out of pocket to access any medical coverage than it is under coverage, both short-term and long-term.

It is.

>incoming anecdotal evidence

>chick I know starts a business 20 years ago
>its fart sniffing art porn for females basically
>mostly all furniture
>all hand crafted
>/biz/ going great until obamacare
>has to lay off employees because her company can't afford obamacare to stay afloat
>forced to implement new machinery and tech to replace workers
>problem is its no longer hand crafted
>still does produce "some" hand crafted shit

She actually navigated it well, but she really wishes should could hire more employees to grow the handcrafted product line further as it was growing steadily nationwide.

Good government should not be paying for healthcare.

this right fucking here

Friendly reminder that Germans are 100% mentally handicapped for saying dumb shit like this.

Why does anyone like this neocon again?

He's pushing neocon care and war with Asad

Retarded post keeps conflating heath (((insurance))) with actual care.

Neither of them do shit to bring down the cost of the actual care, just about which jew takes your monthly tithe.

Demand the fucking doctors publish prices in advance to force some competition.

>OY VEY PAY FOR ALL THE SUB HUMAN ANIMALS HEALTHCARE GOY
eat shit and die shill, clock is ticking

It's not their fault. Most of the good German genes were removed from the gene pool in the 40's.

>flag
Oh the irony. You are not wrong btw.

>poorfags bitching about expensive healthcare
>ctrl+f "subsidies"
>0 results
well that explains that

She literaly said that aborting a baby 1 hour before its born is fine

Nice try rabbi.
Trump is too thicc to be in league with the jews.

Maybe if Germany and the rest of NATO paid for their own defense against Russia instead of leaving the heavy lifting to the US, burgers could enjoy government-paid healthcare too. Oh right, EU Army right on the horizon, lol.

>literaly
where did she ever say that "literally"

>You may have to pay higher premiums with coverage, but that's essentially the point of ACA, you pay higher premiums for better (and cheaper) access to PREVENTATIVE health care.

I never had any problems before my premiums and deductibles doubled thanks to O-NiggerCare! I'm 28 what fucking preventative care do I want? The whole point of my insurance was for big shit, now I have a 7k deductible if that happens. Get fucked you retarded piece of shit.

>Being a single issue cuckold

It's not my fault that it's basically the only issue that affect me personally.

>being an anarchist

I haven't been able to afford health insurance since 2011, thanks to Obamacare. I think 99% of people have had to likewise pay a lot more for their health insurance since then.

The fuck are you on about? My rated affordable plan is 5k in network 10k out deductibles with nothing until those limits. I pay 63 a week for it, and my prescription is 75 bucks. I make 30K.

My yearly out of pocket costs have never been 5K, but thanks to Obama care, they are at least 3,200 a year just in premiums.

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>when the government stops paying for everyone health care everyone will stop having health care
is that bad?

Everything affects you. Nobody is an island

Reminder that the average american hate obongocare and eurocuck opinions do not matter

good
only the healthy should survive

look at our nations
free healthcare ruined it because it made the weak faggots survive and now they vote agains the strong

trump should abolish healthcare to 100%
only the strong shall survive!

Of course kraut does not understand what a sunset provision is. Only krauts man.

I have a job so no.

My insurance went up 120 dollars a pay period thanks to that nigger. Go fuck yourself Kraut. Suck Mama Merkels sour milk and choke on a sausage.

Until you get hit by a car and wake up in the ICU with a literal million dollar medical bill.

>hi I'd like some money to start a small business
>*gives finger*

Chi meditation eliminates 99% of the reason to go to a doctor and that means you don't need to go on their records so they can know how to kill you. There's a good reason (((they))) put industrial acid waste in your tap water and call it "fluoride good for teeth durp".

>million dollar medical bill
You pay your medical bills?
You know you don't have to right? They just call you a lot, change your number.

As long as they don't mess with my NEETbux!

You're full of shit. The whole point was to subsidize shitty people with tax dollars and subsidize the old and sickly by imposing higher premiums on the young and healthy.

Americans are fucking retarded, their cost of healthcare is obscene and insurance companies wont take you in if you have a pre-existing condition. Have fun getting racking up tens of thousands of dollars of debt when you need surgery then so try not to get sick stupid americunts.

What good is a 40 dollar per month subsidy when you're still paying 200 a month for a plan that doesn't begin to help until you've cleared the 4000 dollar annual deductible?

>immediately lose their healthcare.

No, actually they won't.

Exactly. I get fined every year and the ammount I'd have to pay to have insurance is steep compared to my income. I can't afford it unless I want to be homeless.....
Fuck Obama. He robs me every year I'm supposed to get a tax return by helping himself by fining us.
The fine is WAY less of a hit than the payments would be.

Idk where you got that idea about it helping businesses cause all its done is ensure that no one will hire full time.

I have Blue Cross Blue Shield paid for by my job. Even if I didn't, it's $120/month for similar healthcare if I were to get the same plan through the same insurance.

Obamacare wanted $400+ per month from me for their "gold" plan. I.e. the plan that actually covered shit and didn't have a $3000+ deductable. Their only plan that wasn't minimum $200/month was their "catastrophic" plan. (Not making the name up. Literally called that). It was $80/month with insane deductable. This was based on my $40k/year job (before taxes)

On top of the fact that Obamacare by it's very nature is anti-American. It's the government FORCING me to purchase health insurance or be fined. Not my responsibility to pay for those too lazy to pay their own way. Obama, his legacy, and his bullshit healthcare system that he forced on everyone can all rot.

What healthcare? It's too expensive for me to have, I've just been paying the yearly penalty for having the privilege of not being on insurance.

If liberals want to fund planned parenthood, they could do it out of their own pocket. It's not a government agency last time I checked. They can open up their wallets instead of working people's wallets. Of course they're liberal so they don't understand how economics works.

>he prefers barbarism over civilitization
Obamacare was a cash-heist operation anyway. With no legally included assurance that the government to could negotiate on drug prices with companies, Americans would've been paying extreme and compulsory premiums for over-priced drugs/services/etc, while the entirety of the American medical community spirals into further crony institutionalized dietary and pharmaceutical negligence and immorality.

It's not Ocoon's fault, healthcare providers are just a bunch of fucking jews.

Belgian yuropoor from the litteral communist sharia half of that non-country. Can you explain in clear terms why obamacare sucks since the american system is so different from ours us eurocucks dont get it and understand that it would be the équivalent of Trump destroying our own healthcare system.

>implying I use that trash

>Healthcare law passes making healthcare mandatory.
>Everyone's insurance goes up 100% or more
>Not Obama's fault

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>Obamacare
>Not Obama's fault

Brilliant.

Have fun dying waiting in line

Oh, would you look at that... A German named Ahmed or Mohammed trying to ruin my country after ruining his.

Nice try Vladimir

Friendly reminder, bathhouse Barry is half white.

If (you) responded to this and did not sage or thought that it was a legit thread, (you) are a fucking idiot.

You ever wonder why Obama pushed the ACA when he did? What with the economy tanking and the job market in free fall? It wasn't because the Democratic Party, which was elected to fix the financial crisis, suddenly had a sudden attack of civic virtue. It was because the insurance and medical industry, some of their biggest donors, were about to take a massive hit. See, right about 2007 or 2008, doctors were getting sick of the massive paperwork and regulations related to insurance, including medicare and Medicaid. So a bunch of them started forming co-op clinics. Patients paid a fixed monthly fee of $20 to $40 dollars for general care. These co-ops negotiated with drug insurance providers and co-op patients took out catastrophic health insurance plans to cover hospital visits and major surgery. The co-op model started in California and was spreading. Co-ops had negotiating power, and both the health insurance and health care industry was in danger of losing control. The answer to this was the ACA. It forced everyone to buy insurance and outlawed the catastrophic plans that made the Co-op model viable.
>if you like your plan, you can keep it

This is literally the dumbest argument I've ever seen for pro-Obongocare.

Trumpcare is ironic because it implies that trump cares

Healthcare would be cheaper if there was actually competition and more flexible plans

But the ACA and all of the Republican bills don't actually address this. It's just more money for insurance companies and more expensive premiums

heh this idiotic death panels meme again, typical dumbass american. Rather die in the waiting line than in the gutter.

Not in the US is not. If you have even half decent insurance you can get a routine visit for free and prescriptions for next to nothing.

Here's what it should be:
- bar healthcare providers from charging uninsured customers more than insured customers
- replace the income/payroll tax breaks for health insurance with an equivalent unconditional tax cut
- let new healthcare companies provide non-emergency care to their own standards, including choosing workers and equipment
- let new professional organizations certify healthcare workers to their own standards
- require that healthcare providers which aren't fully certified by old methods formally notify their customers of this fact, in a narrowly prescribed way which forbids them from distorting it or presenting it as a selling point
- reform healthcare liability with caveat emptor standard (the cost of big-dollar lawsuits ends up being borne by other customers)
- socialize emergency care, since there's no reasonable opportunity for customer choice (don't ban private emergency care, just provide a public system)
- socialize some low-cost public health measures which benefit the general public more than the individual concerned, such as vaccinations and tests and treatments for contagious illnesses
- criminalize abuse of emergency care for non-emergency needs
- specifically criminalize use of emergency care by illegal aliens, with a system to catch and deport them, with severe criminal penalties for non-cooperation by personnel

i work for county gov im good