Jewish elite defector Benjamin H. Freedman explains the Jewish and Zionist plan to take over the world, exposes the Holocaust as non-existent, vindicates National Socialist Germany.
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (1/4) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset). In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (2/4) NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".
Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
Alexander Morris
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (3/4) >"National Socialism / Fascism was a failed system"
It's intellectually dishonest to label something that was forcibly crushed a "failed system", implying that a nation bombed into collapse during war is comparable to a system imploding politically during peace-time. The Soviet system failed, as did the Roman Empire, and every Chinese or Ottoman dynasty. Some of these examples of government lasted thousands of years, while some didn't last more than a generation. All forms of government inevitably fail. This has been true since ancient times. Polybius famously articulated this process of Anacyclosis: social organization paradigms rise, fail, and give way to further systems. This is the cycle of history.
Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: A.) it was not an economic system, but a social one; B.) the so-called "failed system" had a control group: the US. Germany, Italy, and the US were operating under Keynesean policies; only one of them won the war, and experienced a massive period of growth once their industrial rivals were destroyed. So no, it wasn't a failed system, because both sides were using it, including the side that won.
Michael Fisher
Mike Delaney's 9/11 Missing Links documentary, exposes the Jewish and Israeli involvement in the 9/11 WTC terrorist attacks.
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (4/4) Hitler didn't consider Russians subhuman. He considered them inferior. Because in terms of living, they were. Seriously, look at the living style of the average Soviet, then compare them to a German in 1930, they were, by all accounts inferior. He even talks about how some Russians of the old rich class were Germanic. There were multiple reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union, for example: >1. To gain the necessary resources to fuel a long time war, something that Germany was severely lacking. >2. To prevent the inevitable invasion of Europe by the Soviet Union. If you gonna start a war, it's best to have the first strike. >3. To disband the Bolshevik and Jewish regime in the Soviet Union, something Hitler knew would be a threat to Germany.
Germany did not massively blob into Eastern Europe like wiki suggests, they had very clear borders. The eventual goal was to set up puppet states, not wipe out the populace.
If the plan was to exterminate Slavs, then why were there no camps for that purpose? The deaths in Eastern Europe are from starvation and warfare, not extermination. Plenty of Slavs fought alongside Germans in the Russian Liberation Army, SS Galician, and others.
does anyone know where i can download a pdf of the english versions of bolshevism from moses to lenin and der untermensch?
Anthony Martinez
oops didnt mean to reply
Hunter Wilson
the fire is rising
Ryder Gutierrez
Jewish redpill thread
Nathan Anderson
Has anyone here read Hitler's Revolution by Richard Tedor? Probably the best redpill on NS I've ever read. If I could recommend one book to starters aside from Mein Kampf, it would be Hitler's Revolution
Colton White
I haven't read it, but I definitely want to check it out. It was published pretty recently (2013) I don't know a lot about it, but I hear it goes into detail about how Hitler pulled Germany out of bankruptcy. What else can you recommend?
Elijah Nelson
Bumping
Christopher Powell
Missed you guys
Tyler Howard
>Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin PDF I can't post the link because Sup Forums thinks it's spam
I googled it and it was the second result.
I can't find an english version of der untermensch though. That one seems harder to find
Ryder Diaz
Culture of Critique is the best redpill on the JQ ever written imo. Very fascinating book, you learn all sorts of arguments to prove it's more than a coincidence. I read The Camp of the Saints last month. It was written in the 70s and predicted a lot of things about mass immigration and refugees. The only thing the author got wrong is that the refugees in his book came from India, but I think that would've been a fair prediction.
Matthew Phillips
thanks, can't believe i didnt think to search with pdf at the end
Julian Howard
Missed you too bud. You been fighting the good fight?
I've read Culture of Critique - It was excellent. I also finished reading The Bell Curve recently, it was really eye opening into the depth of Race realism. I haven't heard of Camp Of Saints, I'll add it to my reading list
Tyler Turner
you're welcome my friend
Christian Carter
I would get into the race realism stuff but it seems like too much work. I'll opt for the basic redpills on it. You see, I've noticed that there are various communities of thought on specific topics that are very controversial and you have to know a lot about them to "roll with the big boys". Race realism is one of them, but you also have stuff like pizzagate. The one I have invested myself in is Holocaust revisionism. It's a whole circle jerk once you get into it. There are books written, rebuttals written to those, then rebuttals written to the rebuttals, and so on. It can be very hard to follow. Because I've invested myself into that and read books on the Holocaust Handbooks site so much I can't really get into a topic like race realism and really devote myself to it. The Holocaust was one of the first redpills I received. I didn't realize all of the race realism stuff until later. So I spent so much time researching the Holocaust that it's hard to get into another one of these debating communities. But I do eventually plan to read The Bell Curve
Noah Perez
Going to post some books I think are worth reading.
Culture of Critique - Kevin MacDonald Libido Dominandi - E. Michael Jones The Revolutionary Spirit - E. Michael Jones Imperium - Yorkey Decline Of The West - Spengler Forest Passage - Ernst Junger
Bowden was so incredibly well read, it's a shame he passed.
Now, is there a Nat Soc discord? I think it'd be neat to have a few familiar faces to bounce ideas off of.
Ethan Rogers
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Lincoln Long
I switched to phoneposting
Joshua Phillips
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Ryan Bennett
Have you guys read any of these, or just Plato because /lit/ are obsessed with him?
Carson Morgan
Are you talking about my pic related or yours? I plan to get to Republic eventually. I don't even really know what it's about, but it's recommended in that image and a friend told me it's good
Luke Allen
Both desu.
Jayden Rivera
It is a deep rabbit-hole to jump into, mainly because so many cultural marxists and liberals vehemently deny it's concepts. It is similar to the other topics you mentioned, in that you will have to sift through a lot of disinformation and rebuttals.
The Bell Curve is a great place to start.
Cooper Hernandez
I've read Jean Jaques Reusseau's Social Contract. I disagreed with many of his fundamental tenants; mainly his idea's of the "Noble Savage". He claimed that the uncivilized prehistoric man was non-violent. I think our natural state of being is highly competitive, and often times violent.
I also read Plato's Republic. It was interesting just how relatable to the modern times it is, being that it was written in Ancient Greece (around 400 BC). An interesting fact of the book is that it isn't any of Plato's own work. Plato was a student of Socrates, and The Republic is essentially a written summary of Socrates' philosophical lectures. It goes into great detail about Socrates' ideas on the epistemology of state power, and the subsequent degeneration into chaos. It can be hard to grasp at times, but it is definitely worth the read.
Angel Ross
Thanks bro. I've googled them and added a few to my list
Hunter Cruz
>is there a Nat Soc discord There's been a bunch, but they tend to get derailed after being spread around too much
Oliver Sanchez
Is there a main one rn? How safe is discord in terms of security and IP info? I've heard people call it doxcord before
Camden Torres
There's a large Alt Right one - I can't find the code right now. Richard Spencer did a live AMA on it recently. Discord groups are pretty easy to infiltrate, so doxxing is pretty common.
Buy a VPN if you're worried about IP logging. Nord is the best, you're welcome
Zachary Torres
Does the US constitution hold a place in National Socialism?
Angel Scott
Bump
Brandon Campbell
Nah. Way too many contradictions, 180 degree flipped values, different philosophical & cultural basis. I think those two are pretty clearly opposed.
Juan Cox
Thanks. I saw the AMA live, sadly the host is an ex furry who was the ex-owner of the largest Sup Forums server made last september. He has a channel called Sup Forums discord I think, not sure if hes a shill
Yeah, NatSoc Rockwell wanted to keep the constitution, only change a few amendments (iirc it was the 17th and some other one), and get the blacks a place to stay in Africa that they could go back to.
Luis Murphy
Always happy to see NSG in the catalog. I have some questions about how a national socialist country would address several major problems the US is facing, whether these problems are fabricated by (((someone))) or not. If any brothers can link me to information about how the third reichs healthcare system worked that would be excellent. I'm mostly concerned with how the elderly, disabled and mentally ill were cared for, and how their care was paid for. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Gavin Rogers
>I'm mostly concerned with how the elderly, disabled and mentally ill were cared for, and how their care was paid for. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Most of the elderly were taken care of through a saftey net, however most of the disabled and mentally ill were sadly euthanized. The thought was that since their was virtually no way to cure the people who had serious mental illnesses (Schizophrenia, etc) that were incurable even after all the technological advances in the Reich (today schizophrenia doesn't have a cure). These people would be a burden on the people as a whole, and they would really be only spending the rest of their lives suffering. IIRC many disabled war veterans were taken care of however.
Things today I imagine would be nowhere near as gruesome, I mean who knows what diseases we could cure and effectively treat now if we had the budget actively focused in science rather than wars for israel or gibs. Hell, even repealing Reagans laws on mental hospitals would allow doctors to make patients with mental illnesses take their meds (their mental illness makes them resistant to taking them).
Jace Carter
> fuhrer (embed) > fuhrer ジークハイル (embed) > HEART (embed) wtf is going on with those video titles?
Actually yes, I've read all of those. The passing of the great race is good, Leviathan is absolutely required reading, Rousseau is too just to understand liberalism. Good Hitler quote to express my opinion on that Carlyle book. Modern scholars hate "the Great Man Theory of History". There's good reason to criticize it, but more reason to support it.
Jackson Young
Do you have any proofs on the euthanization claim? Cause Dr aspergers was sure as hell alive
Matthew Collins
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Owen Fisher
I think its just what gets views, a lot of Gen Z are becoming alt right. Most of them are either from plebbit so they will be drawn to "counter culture" shit with modern culture like emojis and fashwave
Jackson Hughes
see The history is going to be (((skewed))) on it a lot, the wikipedia article talking about gas vans for exterminating mentally ill isn't even sourced.
Ethan Gomez
Hmm. Not sure how I feel about it. I support getting views, but I support a highly disciplined aesthetic to properly represent our values. All those emojis almost make it look mocking, gay, or ironic.
Jose Clark
Is that the spamming autist morpheaus irl?
Chase Barnes
>All those emojis almost make it look mocking, gay, or ironic.
Yeah but thats how you appeal to redditors to get them on our side, you could try and DM the vid makers to change the title setup but idk how active/willing they are
Aaron Campbell
>Culture of Critique is the best redpill on the JQ ever written imo. Its central thesis, ie, that Jews developed superior IQs through artifical selection eugenics, is seriously flawed. Jewish IQ is inflated and misrepresented.
Jacob Scott
How about no, it's an ideology dipshit not (((Laurens))) channel keep the plebbit to yourself if they can't get into natsco cause it ain't cute they shouldn't
Wyatt Cox
>you could try and DM the vid makers not worth the effort, minor issue
Colton Garcia
my OC for NSG
Cooper Adams
“The Aryan Collective Unconscious unites, seeks to complete, to conceive the unus mundus, the totality of the human being, deifying him. … The Jewish Collective Unconscious is always exclusive, takes the part against the whole, fanatic, intolerant, proselytizing, dividing men, tending to produce chaos.” – Miguel Serrano
Daily reminder that the true Zionist agenda is to start fights between different groups of non-Jews that allow Jews to gain more control over everyone. The only way to defeat the Jew is to unite across all other lines towards the objective of defeating them.
Stop sperging you poo faggot, I'm just explaining the possible methodology behind the titles. I didn't make them
Asher Cooper
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Lucas Watson
>aryanism.net
Thats a kike controlled op sight iirc, didn't it get removed from the paste? Not saying working with nigs to get rid of kikes and eventually work towards geographical separation would be a bad thing, but the site itself is sketchy
Anthony Ramirez
Sauce?
Jaxon Mitchell
>aryanism.net That website is run by actual jews, lets spmalians into its ranks, preaches against WN and shills for homosexuality. You know that right?
no, if you study it closely, its full of contradictions and outright kike-tier lies. All the good stuff is actually plagiarized.
Wyatt Evans
There were definitely smarter nazis out there than just this list.
Gavin King
Pagan edition
Joseph Lewis
At last, I knew there was at least 1 or 2 proper fasci's floating around.
That quote's a pretty big blow against collectivism ironically enough, it sounds like he see's the important of allowing individuals to flourish yet supports collectivism in his journey of building the total state & its' elites. What strange contradictions.
Would you put Leviathan in the good category or just the important category? I bet you loved Carlyle, every true Fasci on this board would probably love it.
The reading lists in these threads gets really weird, protocols of Zion etc instead of proper foundational Fasci texts.
Julian Young
>kike controlled >actual jews source?
>preaches against WN White Nationalism isn't national socialism though.
>shills for homosexuality I would fight the Jew alongside a homosexual, would you? I don't care either way.
>kike-tier lies examples?
Adrian Howard
no
Kevin Collins
I feel nothing but glee when I see a Swastika now, what have you all done to me? It's just such an aesthetically pleasing symbol
Jaxon Wood
Well WH in most cases is controlled opposition so they are not wrong and as no proof for the Jewish claims exists I'll still link their good articles
Angel Long
I'm not sure, it's significance is personal to me not particularly strategic.
Blake Ortiz
Granted I have no evidence for them being kikes, just thought the general consensus is they are. I could be wrong.
>I would fight the Jew alongside a homosexual, would you?
Faggots like Ryan Faulk are the only type I would tolerate
Connor Campbell
>what have you all done to me?
:^ )
Julian Morales
>Brown eyes >White
Brayden Kelly
>anglos >white
Ryder Hill
A E S T H E T I C very nice
>hat quote's a pretty big blow against collectivism ironically enough Here's the thing: everyone wants Natsoc to fit squarely into a box: >its socialist >its capitalist >its libertarian, gun rights, travel rights, etc >its authoritarian and restricts free association >its a Hoppean covenant society >its expelled degenerates to save its commons Thing is, these aren't really contradictions; most things in Natsoc were synthetic. They were more third position, but they were far to the right than the left. They hated the left. >collectivism and individualism are contradictions Nations are collections of individuals, just as a body is a collection of cells. Don't let it hypnotize you, its quite natural. >Would you put Leviathan in the good category or just the important category? Important. Hobbes is critical to understanding the necessity of the state. >I bet you loved Carlyle Yes, one of the first I read in my early 20s. Brilliant man. >The reading lists in these threads gets really weird Just because the emphasis is on the JQ here. Fascist don't emphasize the JQ as much as natsocs do.
