Military anons...

Military anons, what's the general mood been about this whole tranny thing from the position of somebody actually serving? Are you guys happy? Sad? Annoyed? What's going on?

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its a confusing distraction, really unnecessary tbqh

Distraction on a massive scale.
Something FAR LARGER is happening.

I have not heard anyone say anything about it

Something is happening user
>27th

i think it's good, however i am Canadian military so who the fuck cares about me.

I care about you senpai

Trivia tonight the guys mostly didn't care. All former military. Mostly positive, but not really a big effect either way

My fellow Aus bros think its grate and that the same should happen here.

Mostly positive. People seem to be enjoying having Mattis and co pull the progressive dick out of our collective throat.

Mostly quietly positive with a minority of loud degenerates and minorities. t. navy

Don't care, mainly because we don't know any trannies in our unit. But one thing we all agree on - it would be nice if politicians stopped using military as petri dish for social experiments.

We still have them fuck.

youtube.com/watch?v=ooSPqoI3qsk

We care about you, bro.

Marine user
1 Deployment to Iraq
I'm opposed to it for this reason:
When I was overseas we had 2 suicides in my company, one in my platoon.
They came pretty quick one after the other
We were mostly doing the same mundane nonsense, no reason combat operations
Just patrolling sand most of the time
But the whole mood of the company changed dramatically after that
Everyone was on edge
My Lt wasn't much older than me, it was his first deployment too
He took it real hard, started to second guess himself a lot
Though he would an Hero too
Staff Sergeant kept us together after that (older guy, definitely not his first rodeo)

I know trannies are more likely to commit suicide and I can't support them being in the military having dealt with that
It just makes me think of more platoons like mine being shaken up because someone let unstable trannies in
I always wonder what would have happened if we'd be in a real fire fight after that, I don't think it would have ended well
Towards the end of the deployment things were always tense
Most days we couldn't get through chow without some kind of drama

I'll be leaving the corps when my contract is up, no question

I feel bad for any poor fucks who get stuffed with the trannies when they start an Heroing in the middle of the desert

Also fuck POGs

Non issue

how much u get paid senpai

thank

fucking

christ

its pretty dumb imo

if a tranny is able to serve and has seen combat before, and proceeded to get the job done while in the shit with xer/it/whatever the fuck he wants to be called, then he should be able to stay. But thats just my perspective, im a bit of a centrist and most guys in the military are hardcore conservatives. Many of them the BOMB MUSLIMS GO ISRAEL WOOO USA bluepilled patriot style conservatives too.

It's a fucking military, not a goddamn daycare for mentally ill faggots to get their meds paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.

if you're a centrist, let me explain

The most important part of any military is its moral.

if the military is anything short of a dude-bro boys club moral gets low.

Trannies, gays and chicks make it low.

I'm giving my application to be discharged first thing tomorrow.

I am absolutely appalled and disappointed that the military is parroting bigotry and hatred, rather than letting my fellow brothers fight amongst me.

Disclaimer, I was pulled out of a ditch from a friend who was transgender, he was killed in combat a few years ago, and he saved me from being captured and killed.

Mostly positive or don't care. Only people I went to high school who never served are freaking out.

it's difficult to explain this to non-militaryfags, or people who have never played in a true team sport.

Did they transition after or before infantry?

Happy, as is everyone in my unit. Even the spics that hate Trump are on board HOOOAH

If they can loot and shoot, who cares?

>military cracks down on mental illness
>bad thing

I work with a fuckton of vets. No one seems to care most of them don't even know any transgenders in service. The general consensus is that its a distraction or a way of being smug to liberals.

Also, for context, the general opinions are that traps are gay.

What do you even do? Jesus christ you have literally nothing to fear that you can actually stop. The only real threat is us and we will fucking eradicate you from this plane of existence if it came to an actual war.

Fuck off lying shill. That never happened in your mom's basement.

ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-forces-welcomes-transgender-troops-after-trump-s-ban-1.3520379

Luckily, Canada doesn't really need an army.

>if they can do the job they should be able to stay
Well heres the thing, they cant and never will be able to due to biological reasons so stop lying to yourself and perpetuating a false hope that its not a debilitating mental illness that needs to be dealt with differently than state sanctioned mutilation.

>WEAPONIZE
>SUICIDAL
>TRANNIES

>that happened

Statistically theres only around 250 openly transgender service members in the military.

Unit you deployed with? Mos? Bct? AIT? I smell bullshit fucking faggot

Hold on a moment user, I never addressed that part. I simply stated my own feelings from living that lifestyle for a long period of time. I dont think the military should spend money on their cock surgery, however that doesnt necessarily mean that I think they can NEVER EVER serve. Im an American. And if they CAN serve, and they CAN mesh with the unit as a whole, then I have absolutely no problem with them doing their part for America.
I never served with a tranny. Maybe im wrong about their mental states, and if I am then so be it. Much of my opinion comes from my own years of service, and not one of them included any transgendered individuals, so I do concede that I might be wrong.
>traps are gay
>best bud finds out i jerk it to traps
>tfw everybody in the camp found out I have a bit of the gay
>tfw standing in 103° sweltering desert heat while your friends all call you a homo
not all of my memories are pleasant

I've had to deal with this as a CC a couple years ago.
Basically SM was going full trans, with surgery.
We put 'him' on IRR for a year, basically non-active while 'he' went through the transition. Came back, got the 'M' switched to 'F' in DEERS after a lengthy medboard process and he got to use the female restroom. He ETSd a year later.

Huge waste of effort and time. Any leader in any organization knows you spend 80% of your time on 20% of your problem people. The last thing the military needs is trans-fags using up resources good soldiers could use. There are good young white men who join the military who want to fuck muzzies up but get bogged down by bullshit elected SJW officials try to enforce.

General mood of usmc is that trannies shouldn't be catered to nor should we pay for their transition. Almost everyone I know belives they're mentally ill and hate having to accept them under political correctness. This comes after all the woman PC bullshit, shifting of standards for them, and general ass kissing we have to give them.

Infantryman here. It's great and everyone supports it going well.

Too lazy to copy everything from previous discussion. Here's links

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RACIST

No way. That number is much higher.

We've had two full-trans in our battalion (~500ppl) in the last couple years. Also another who has already notified 'he's' starting the process. It's happened with others as well.

The problem is handling a trannies needs, the new rules and regulations, how to operate in the field, transition process, money, discrimination and EO policy, the new wave of breifs and bullshit that military gets beat over for these extremely vocal but small numbers. The military shouldn't have to cater to them. The world isn't fair, you can't be combat effective when you're on hormones (costing thousands to taxpayers and stealing money from places that need it) and liable to off yourself.

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No one believes this

>application to be discharged

how did you do it? Tell your ood that you wanted to off yourself?

Steal a bunch of shit?

Sexually assault someone?

Well? Let me know how you "applied" to leave an enlistment? Oh that right, you're lying and also probably a shariablue shill.

-_-7

Thank u fur yer servicse

Former USCG here.

Our soldiers have to put up with enough shit already.

Having to deal with sensitivity training for trannies, women, whatever fucking bullshit cause the professional victims in power want to force on them, is complete shit.

In the military, you get in line. It is not a place for expressing whatever bullshit perverse hedonistic urge you want to force on the people around you.

Go do that shit on your own dime. Our soldiers are in the business of being the finest fucking warriors to slay enemies and pussy. Serving is an honor and a privilege. Not all are cut out to be soldiers.

>I was pulled out of a ditch
Which movie were you watching again?

I am not active but was until a few years ago. I still stay in touch with a lot of my buddies that are still active. They said that the tranny training was unbearable but that they have never even heard of a tranny in the ranks.

>Application to be discharged
>He was transgender
>Killed a few years ago
Spotted you shill

Yeah this guy said it well. I wanted to enlist back in '08. My entire senior year I was preparing. running 5k a night and working on my marksmanship. The enlister and I were practically fuck buddies until he pulled my medical record.

Because I was an energetic young boy without a father at home and a cucked school system. My day to day hijinks landed me in a docs office would "diagnosed" me with ADHD. I was pulling A-B average in every single class and had no problem doing my work I just found it boring and no one with a spine would stand up to me so I got away with murder. I never once took any pills or any kind of treatment. Just got an hour each school day in special ed to do fucking nothing because my homework was already done. All I did was read books to pass the time.

This fucking horseshit disqualified me. I was not even able to plea my case.

So yeah I have a dog in this fucking race even if I never served. I was taken out of the running because of a horseshit lazy doctor handing out ADHD diagnosis's like candy and these whiny crying sacks of shit want in with a never ending gaping pus oozing infected gash where their dick used to be?

FUCK THEM

seems legit.

2500% more likely to commit suicide

It's a mental illness.

this may be dumb but if trans people actually want to serve why dont they just..not say theyre trans?

i get it if youre like already postop or something, and you cant really deny it. but if serving is all about 'serving' why not just not be a drama queen for once and just go with your biological sex.

>he saved me from being captured and killed.
There's no fucking way a girl had the upper body strength to pull you out of a ditch.

>people start claiming misgendering in order to prevent shaving head
>unit cohesion dies
>hair gets caught in moving parts of weapons

Former military here, just literally had a friend of mine from my former unit commit suicide. His deployment fucked him up.

Like what everyone here said, it's moral and mental strength. Given that trans people have much higher suicide rates doesn't bode well for the constant mindfuck that is the military. People can literally be driven insane, and my friend lost it. This isn't about dude-bro fistbumps and discrimination, it's literally about keeping other members of you team/squad/unit alive when shit hits the fan. Sorry, by adding someone mentally unstable to that doesn't work.

>Huge waste of effort and time
This.
Here we spend around 70,000 per recruit on advertising and screening, then another 90 actually putting them through basic.
It's expensive and stupid to indulge this nonsense.
This is the same problem as putting women into combat roles. If two thirds of rifleman trainees, fit 20 something men, drop out their courses, why the fuck would should we accept an even higher failure rate? It's just burdening an already inefficient organisation with more bullshit it doesn't need.

Navy here.

When it was rolled out that transsexuals were being allowed to serve and enlist I saw mostly disapproval from my shipmates. The training itself had to be interrupted by the CO stating that we were no longer taking questions or having a discussion and the training was simply to put out policy (this is very rare for my CO who usually during training insists on questions from everyone).

The only comments I heard today were a couple of ones of approval for the rejection of the policy, although in the wardroom the leadership was pretty annoyed with the announcement of it via twitter. Usually things like this come out via written policy, not an early morning tweet from a guy likely sitting on the toilet. I thought that part was funny though desu

Go to a different recruiter, who tells you to lie your way in, don't get caught. As long as you can actually pay attention during basic, and dont fuck up, they wont check your medical shit.

I don't know why people are clamoring for the right to be soldiers. I's the shittiest job on earth... where you risk you life for Jewish schemes and earn taco bell wages.

>retaking Mosul block by block
>assaulting fortified high rise to clear and hold
>10 US soldiers overseeing 15 Iraqis
"Oh my bad guys I gotta go dilate, I'll be back in 2 hours when my boipussy is stretched out."

Lol you dumb fuck trannys don't see combat

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this is how to use this by the way summer/pol/

bruh this isnt ww2, no one fucking dies in the military anymore. its a rarity to even get injured, so much so that every death is highly publicized because theyre so rare

nowadays the military is just a path for shitty people or people that couldnt get into/couldnt afford to get an education. for a lot of people its effectively "mcdonalds or military" right out of highschool, and with the crazy healthcare that the military gives you access to its probably far less dangerous to be in the military than to be a poor civilian

honor. and maybe because your family has been in the armed forces for over a century, and you'll be the very first marine in your family line, ever, after boot camp. Those are my reasons, anyway.

100% true

>The problem is handling a trannies needs
As in, needs only one of these. Pic related,

>basement larper NEET keyboard warrior shithead thinks hes in any capacity to tell people who gets the job done anything

Trannies are allowed in NZ but Maoris beat them up and scare them away.
It would be a needle in the haystack trying to find Trannies in our military so no law is needed, but I understand why America would need it.

Doesn't really matter if they're supposed to or not. Everybody that serves could be forced into a combat role at any time for an indefinite amount of time. If you are unable to do that because you're mentally unstable and need medicine for the rest of your life to barely get by you don't belong in the military.

This ^

My only question is, how does accepting transgender recruits improve my unit's readiness and enhance our overall ability to defeat ISIS and possibly other developed nation in combat?

Trump is playing 12th Dimensional Chess with the Democrats.

The Dems were trying to drop the identity politics from their platform because being seen as the "transgender bathroom party" was costing them votes.

By banning transgenders from the military Trump has made the issue front page news, and now the Dems are forced to say over and over again in National TV that they want trannies in the military and talk at length about how much they think taxpayers should have to support the sick fucks who want to get their dicks/tits cut off because of their mental illness.

according to this theres 2.28 MILLION people in the US military

npr.org/2011/07/03/137536111/by-the-numbers-todays-military

and all the news sites are using the 15k transgender number

so basically they're so insignificant that most service people would never talk to one

also i like this whole "the us military spends 5x more on viagara than trannies" shit" that libs keep spinning, since there are literally 150x more men than trannies in the military :[

I think it's good, active duty navy and we have a trans that works at our command. "She" gets relaxed fitness standards and then brags about it. Plastic surgery that's paid for, and a ton of hormones. If you want to be gay or whatever cool. People are bitching about viagra costs but atleast that shit is a real medical issue. Not some fucking mentally ill person that wants their dick cut off. That's my opinion.
-AWS2

Why didn't you archive?
archive.is/RSVCq

don't trap don't tell

As a Soldier, I love it. Politically correct liberal culture has been infecting the military and causing damage since the Obama administration began. It's about time we did some cleaning up. A lot of us don't care if someone is a faggot. Hell, male on male rape in the Army is close to being described as an epidemic. With that being said, transgenders are a completely different type of being and in begins to effect combat readiness. Because of this, it needs to be eliminated.

IMO, it's a mental illness and shouldn't be tolerated. That just IMO though, many others feel this way too, not just me. I've mostly noticed officers caring about the transgender issue MUCH more than the enlisted crowd within the military. I suppose it makes sense, since they were probably indoctrinated with politically correct liberalism as their local university before joining the military. As for others who really seem to care about this issue, I would just tell them to fuck off.

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"APPLICATION" no one turns in a fucking APPLICATION in the military you autist. We turn in "Chits"

They've been throwing numbers at the wall all day trying to make it seem like there is a strong presence of trannies in the military.Its actually kind of funny to watch the shitty arguments they bring up and the numbers they try to push as real.

CNN says 11,000
Washington post says 7,000
Other sites are calling 20-30k

>it would be nice if politicians stopped using military as petri dish for social experiments.
Isn't that exactly what happened today?

Is this like a sarcastic serious or what? Because gays are mentally ill, their condition is just less severe than trans

>Implying he knows anything about the military
Tell me, what happens when morale tanks in a batallion or unit?
Tensions flare and cohesion breaks down.
If Transgendered individuals are involved, it gets even uglier when hormones they need can't be delivered or they run out in a battle of attrition. They have dead weight as a result, only then good for being used as a human shield given they cannot function without said hormones.

>tfw lost one dude in my unit to a track fire
>my grunt's squad leader to a motorcycle crash (his wife was in it too but she survived)
>another dude in my unit killed himself shortly after our first deployment
>then another
>and then another....

Trust me, last thing we need is people who are already prone to suicide, especially emotionally unstable ones

How would it be a social experiment if it's been done for ages before the sand monkey changed it?

Your a fucking autist reservist or a boot ass Marine, either one is reprehensible.

things that happens in your fatfuck no job head that never worked with a team of more than 10 people /= Real life

stop talking and fuck off back to watching your cartoons

Active for 12 years in the Navy. Try again

War is hell after all, even after the war is over.

>trans
>daily trans thread
come on people

Coming from someone who can not even properly type out a response to a simple reply regarding the risks of having dead weight on your team.

Those who serve in the military and who have to face the heat of combat knows if a soldier is an emotional wreck, it will bring down efficiency of the entire unit. Deaths become more common. Why not see Bergdahl as an example of what someone who is unstable can do to a unit. He deserted due to whatever fucked up reason he had and caused trouble for his unit, putting his own fellow soldiers in danger to find his sorry rear end.

>Navyfag on a thread about trannies

Oh shit I didn't know we had an expert on trannies here, considering all the lady-boys you guys shack up with on shore lib. in the pacific.

coming from someone that types like a reddit autist you sure get your experience in the field from playing those call of duty games

real life isnt a video game you underage dumbshit

all race and gender politics are just distractions
we shouldn't be giving the time of day to issues affecting such small minorities like niggers, fags, and trannies

I care, Leafanon. I disagree with you, but we are all entitled to our opinions :)