Is this image true?

Is this image true?
15$ is a starting wage for at least 1st degrees here. And I mean good ones, not meme ones. And I can assure you Israel is at least as twice as expensive as USA. So what are the spoiled burgers crying about?

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Look Schlomo if Minimum wage goes up employers can not afford to hire as many people. Low wage jobs will go down, and more people are in the welfare/Unemployment line.

Where will the money come from to pay a $15hr min wage? Will the top 10% take a pay cut? No.. they'll free increases on the middle class to cover the new minimum.

Raising minimum wage will accelerate the move towards 100% automation. This will create mass unemployment and eventually a two-tier society, resulting in civil unrest and possibly war. As the need for physical labor disappears, the state will begin culling the least productive people (mostly blacks), as they will be a very noticeable drag on society.

Kike

better to give them a tax credit

Automation is a meme

Minimum wages perpetuate an unemployable underclass of people cut off from society and divorced from civic virtue! Minimum wages are a tool to perpetuate a hopeless dependent class by twisted people who profit from feudal stratifications of society.

Full automation will never, ever happen in the near future. The world's economy would explode and everyone would descent into anarchy.

>Earn $15 an hour starting at my first job
>Work for a conservative republican

Wew

>nothing will ever replace horses
>the earth is flat
>smoking is healthy

this, that kind of bump in wages is what it takes for a lot of companies to quickly implement automation

none of the low-wage plebs in america (or suburban marxist faggots) understand how gubberment meddling and gibs inflate the market(s). the reason there is no real, quality low-income housing market in the us is because every single mother and welfare nigger gets a thousand dollar monthly voucher from the state.

>q - what about truck drivers and guys who work hard in factories for 15 an hour? wont this be screwing them all over?
>a - fuck them and their privilege

this type of thing also inflates tuition costs in our universities. if they raise the wage, they are only hurting themselves and everyone else in the long term. but if these fags had any real sense of what is good in the long term, they wouldn't be toiling away in minimum wage jobs in the first place

tl/dr - everyone is getting screwed by this. you cant hand the keys to your economy to retards

You're fucking retarded, UBI is the answer to that because sure it provides a cancer economy that relies entirely off of consumerism and turns people into drones but its the "answer" to automation. Hopefully the chink economy explodes

so your solution is to let them get paid less, that'll solve it

Inflation is a tax on saving money you sperg.

Removing the lower rungs make the ladder tougher to climb. The Minimum Wage is a tool used by unions to price their competition out of the market.

Good one, Jew.

"A University of Washington team studying the law's effects found that the law has boosted pay in low-wage jobs since it took effect in 2015, but that it also caused a 9 percent reduction in hours worked, The Seattle Times reported. For an average low-wage Seattle worker, that's a loss of about $125 per month, the study said."

Have fun in Chavez Ville Or Sanders Shores.

>is this true

Yes, it is. The reality is that most people on minimum wage are worthless 20s-mid 30s millennials who have not had a career in their entire life, only "jobs." They want the minimum wage raised because they want to earn more without actually climbing the ladder. A lot of Sup Forums thinks this is the millenitard's fault, and it is in the sense that they're dumb enough to actually think raising the minimum wage is going to make it easier for them, but the reality is that this is all because baby boomers decided retirement was a thing of the past and that any open positions anywhere belong to pajeet and ahmed

Who cares? It's not my job to pay for your bad decisions.

True, reality is paco the border jumper and pajeet the imported slave labor will benefit and they are not college teens.

Why is there such a crazy wage disparity in burger land? The floor here is much higher. I think the lowest I've ever seen anyone get paid is about 14 dollars/hour after 25% taxes.

Why would anyone even work minimum wage jobs if their pay is that garbage? The world needs unskilled labor, but do they really need to be treated like animals?

and who is not helped is anyone who currently has a job that they will lose when they get laid off or their company folds since the vast majority of businesses operate on such small margins that a mandatory minimum of $15 an hour would wreak havok on our economy

>Cut costs
>Prices decrease to maximize sales
>Real income increases as the price floor deflates
>Businesses use wages and benefits to compete for workers
>Low-skill workers can price their labor competitively and get their foot in the door/gain useful work experience to grab higher paying jobs
>NOOO M-MUH WAGE FLOOR TO PRICE LOW-SKILL WORKERS OUT INTO THE WELFARE STATE

"Wage disparity" is a nonsensical issue. Economic follies come from attempts to control an economy into an "equal" state.

>>Businesses use wages and benefits to compete for workers
>>Low-skill workers can price their labor competitively and get their foot in the door/gain useful work experience to grab higher paying jobs
Fantasy land

See: Every year of the United States before the enactment of minimum wage legislation advocated for by the union mobs to secure the job positions of the workers that pay into their union fees.

EPI is garbage. Founder by Carterite assholes beholden to Big Labor
Garbage

>28% have children

Genetic garbage, shouldnt have kids if you make the bare minimum amount of money society allows

>minimum wages goes up
>employers have to raise prices to combat this
>wages rise the same as the inflation of prices

Literally no difference to people on minimum wage made

More illegals will be hired for construction and robots will take your McDonald's job. People on minimum wage are lazy and unskilled. I'm 21 and I know almost no one on minimum wage. The only ones on minimum wage are lazy fags who have just started working because their parents supported them till that age. Degenerates of the highest order still receive minimum wage.

>raise prices
Nope.

>minimum wage
>works full time

pick one

delete this post right now goyim and pay your union dues!

>accepting lower profit margins
Nope.

No. But I challenge the maturity of any adult that is still working for min wage. There are only a few exceptions.

By the way, that pic is complete bull shit made by someone that couldn't find any real evidence to support their lies.

It's true that minimum wage laws don't help teenagers.

They're one of the primary reasons teenagers and young adults with no experience or training/degree are all but unemployable, and rarely improve their prospects when only having one of the above.

Protocols of the Elders of Zion #6.1

"WE SHALL RAISE THE RATE OF WAGES WHICH, HOWEVER, WILL NOT BRING ANY ADVANTAGE TO THE WORKERS, FOR, AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHALL PRODUCE A RISE IN PRICES OF THE FIRST NECESSARIES OF LIFE, ALLEGING THAT IT ARISES FROM THE DECLINE OF AGRICULTURE AND CATTLE-BREEDING: WE SHALL FURTHER UNDERMINE ARTFULLY AND DEEPLY SOURCES OF PRODUCTION, BY ACCUSTOMING THE WORKERS TO ANARCHY AND TO DRUNKENNESS AND SIDE BY SIDE THEREWITH TAKING ALL MEASURE TO EXTIRPATE FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH ALL THE EDUCATED FORCES OF THE "GOYIM.""

See guys? Minimum wages were meant to be bullshit from the start. We all know they prevent the poor and the untalented from ever earning a living for themselves, so we can bribe and manipulate them to do all the dirty crimes of the Deep State.

Nah.

I manage a shop part time and study full time.
You can't even break even if you have more than one person over 19 on each shift.
> Labor is the easiest cost to cut.
> Mexicans and niggers will be replaced with keen, smart gen z teenagers who listen to what their manager says.

Because there's a huge productivity disparity. Read up on Price's Law.

people forget that it will lower the value of money overall and just make shit more expensive
it will also create demand to replace jobs

Also from my experience with gen z in the workplace. Millennials are going to be beside themselves when gen z starts outpacing them before they even graduate uni.

>it will lower the value of money overall and just make shit more expensive
then just pay them $20! and then $50!

>Businesses use increase in revenue from lowered wages to replace low-skilled jobs via automation

fuck this shit. I get paid $5.15 an hr in GA as a fucking mechanical engineer w/ a degree from GATech. I'll be damned if some burger flipper makes 3x what I make.

are you working as a contractor?

>prices are lowered even further with the massive increase in supply due to increasingly efficient production
Those gosh darn back hoes putting honest shovellers out of work!

All I take away from that image is maybe women shouldn't be roasties who get knocked up by Tyrone in their twenties, derailing them from starting a career , making them the lowest level of women on the dating market. Thanks femenisim.

Raising minimum wage actually hurts poor unskilled laborers the most. The only bargaining power they have to get a job is negotiating a wag and if minimum wage is already high, then someone more qualified will be hired or the job will be dissolved. If there was no minimum wage more poorfags would actually be employed.

If you are over 21 and still on minimum wage you either make such bad choices or work so poorly that you deserve to be in shit, it's fucking easy to move up once you start working unless you don't have the foresight to not work at fucking Walmart.

New thread, lads.

so if I make 12.50$ hour and the min wage is like 11$ where I live and it goes up to 15$ then what happens

No I work for a large company. This is my first job out of school and I've been here a year. I do CAD/CAM, PLCs, and some hydraulic fixture design work. It sucks, but that's the job market now for engineers and GA still has a $5.15 min wage.

You get a raise at the cost of products going up in price

>its a pimpled teen gamer like its supposed to be bad vs an old hag
America is so cucked and gynocentric that its like satire, probably soon there will be sexual education courses that tell you only nigger are for fucking

>Israel is twice as expensive
>wages are twice as high
How did you think this post was going to go down when you made it?

>20 or older
>20
That's barely better than a teen. Still libing with parents age 20-28

>File

Imagine being 40 or older and still working minimum wage.
What did they do with their lives? Suck cock all day instead of developing their career?

I can only speak for Germany but rising minimum wages combined with high taxes will destroy the middle class here

Funny how the left uses white people if they want us to have empathy.
Most of these cases are black irl.

If you're 35 and working minimum wage youre a failure and I have no sympathy.

Why don't we raise the minimum wage to $50/hour? That way nobody is poor anymore.

Fixed

>this type of thing also inflates tuition costs in our universities.
bull. shit. tuition inflation is a direct result of federally insured student loans.

That's actually illegal.

Also, look for work somewhere else.

BurgerKike here: got me IsraelKike. However, it's almost always our own who are bleeting this communist bullshit (e.g. Bernie "the millionaire socialist" Sanders).

I'd like to know when you fuckers will stop taking my tax dollars while talking shit about us?

Put another way, fuck off.

That's exactly what's happening and continuing to happen in America because liberals want us all on welfare voting democrat while "taxing the rich" to pay for that welfare state. B-but at least we're all (((equals)))!

>on average they earn half of their family's total income

If this were true, then that means for half the people making minimum wage, the rest of their family makes LESS than minimum wage.

I'm going to use you as an example of the kind of oversimplification that ESPECIALLY makes federal minimum wages a bad idea, if you don't mind.

Because somewhere in the country, in an ideal economy, a burger-flipper might be making more than you do. And that would be okay.

Nominal vs Real prices is something that gets covered extensively in international economics, but within most countries, much less one as big as the US, Nominal/Real prices can vary greatly from region to region.

Where it might be possible for someone in podunkville GA to live comfortably paying off the loan on a small house with just $5/hr, someone in the heart of downtown Seattle might have to make 3x that just to sublet a cot in someone's garage, because that's precisely the nature of supply and demand.

So when the national minimum wage is raised, in addition to everything else it can completely up-end rural economies where the threshold of "living wage" is far lower than it is for an urban area.

>nah
Profit machine broke. No more business

... and nigger?
what about people like me who are established and employ people?
you raise my cost I am not going to hire people
you fucking moron

let bigger companies compete for talent
it's simple

Can't even argue? Faggot?

jesus, it's 9 bucks here in MN (only for large businesses)
you need to get to a better state or something, there's at least advancement options, right?

Good post ancapfriend, it's a real shame how little people actually understand about how money works.

I remain unconvinced that it's merely a shame and not by design.

Nope. I'm a wastewater engineer that specializes in modeling and gone are the days of:
>i have 10 years of experience and therefore am valuable as...

Now there are autocalibrators, neural networks, genetic algorithms, etc. that will produce models better than ANYONE could ever produce from conventional guessing and checking, monte carlo analyses, and "conventional methods".

Billions of dollars are being spent on EPA consent decrees, so it's a big market. Imagine non-technical people doing repetitive tasks that require minimum prblem solving... they're all fucked.


I can almost guarantee that the workforce we have now will be completely different in twenty years.

checked
no, it's not true.
Those people will either have their hours cut or lose the job completely. Then they'll be perpetually unemployed. It's what happened to low skill blacks decades ago when MW was first introduced.
Also, artificially inflating the overhead of a business, wether through taxes, regs, or wage laws, invariably leads to the increase of prices to compensate, which then means the working class who buys their products now has less purchasing power.
OP's image was created by a fucking retard who knows fucking nothing.

With people like Krugman around I wouldn't doubt your suspicions for a minute.

No, minuiam wage price floors help EVERYONE over time.
So tired of people thinking it just helps Starbuck workers when really it puts upward wage pressure on everyone on the ladder till about midpoint.
These fucking cucked office workers and mid skill people don't realized how cucked they are compared with 40 years ago, wages are lower than they should be across the board.
And I haven't even got into the tax system benefits and the ecomany driving effects becuase more people having money to spend is good for the ecomany.
To address your first point, you just can't compare wages or prices across boarders at the pleb lvl, too many facets, from taxes to property

...

goddamnit you said his name and he appeared

I swear they told me you had to whisper it 3 times, not just once!

>falling for the think tank brainwashing either though all the actual data says otherwise
You are such a tool, but still keep thinking you need to keep the poor down to be middle class, when every real world example ever shows rising the poors means rises the middle class means too. 99.9% of people would benefit from this

So we should raise the minimum wage by DOUBLE so they have to lose their job entirely to automation.

hmmm conveniently no race statistic I wonder why?

I made 15 an hour at my first job as a mechanical engineer. No burger flipper should make the same starting salary. All this will do is drive up the prices of every salary and inflate the prices of all products.

Yes that image is true. Raising the min wage is still a bad idea. It causes inflation. If the workers at the min wage level want more money then they need to go earn it like the rest of us. Instead they bitch and cry about not being able to food their kids. Well who's fault is that?

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>implying this matters when I have no job

Feed***

You would if you could price your labor competitively my friend.

>Why would anyone even work minimum wage jobs if their pay is that garbage?
I don't know if you've ever not eaten for 3 days but it really hurts a lot.

But if they raise it dont they also raise prices on living or no? Idk

Minimum wage jobs are for experience, not to feed a family.

That's a bullshit argument. There are plenty of job that pay more then min wage that only require a work ethic. These people simple don't want to try to earn more. Min wage jobs are for teens and 2nd jobs, not a 35 year old with 2 kids.

>being able to work for less than a robot
ok