Two pilots have been suspended from duty after their aircraft, carrying 99 passengers, nearly ran out of fuel because they forgot to retract the landing gear after take-off.
Air India Flight AI676 was en route to Mumbai from Kolkata on July 22 but was forced to divert to Nagpur when the crew became alarmed by the speed at which the aircraft was losing fuel thanks to the additional drag created by the extended wheels.
An unidentified source told the Times of India that the “brand new Airbus A320”, one of the most fuel efficient aircraft in existence, had struggled to climb after take-off, prompting the pilots to settle on an altitude of 24,000 feet as opposed to a usual cruising height of 35,000 feet. The source, who made a point of saying that both pilots were women, said it flew like this at 230 knots - as opposed to around 500 knots - for about an hour-and-a-half, while the extended landing gear dragged heavily on the aircraft.
At this point, 90 minutes into a two-and-a-half-hour flight, the crew requested permission to divert to Nagpur as their fuel would have run out before reaching Mumbai.
dont you get huge warning light if you forget to retract landing gear ?
Xavier Myers
Probably just stopped to take a shit on the street.
Luis Scott
Wait, how would that waste so much gas?
Zachary Kelly
It slows down the plane by not being aerodynamic.
Austin Torres
landing gear + lower altitude
Chase Howard
More air resistance, engines have to work harder to maintain the same speed.
Luke Powell
probably
Adam Lewis
They put a bandaid over it because it was distracting.
Cooper Cook
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Dominic Cook
It was probably a shit Indian plane. Their airforce still uses MiGs. I believe they gave two women pilots a fucked up plane and then blamed it on them, obviously they were paying attention to the fuel loss
Bentley Jones
huge drag quality post, i chuckled
Parker Cook
And here I thought women were airheads
Nathan Allen
>brand new Airbus A320
Kayden Garcia
It would be the same as trying to get good gas mileage in car going down the highway with all the doors and the trunk open. Both cars and planes are meant to cut through the air, any substantial change to the body shape will increase drag by a large factor and hamper fuel efficiency.
Isaiah Miller
you have to be atleast 18 to post here.
Leo Davis
too busy taking 152 selfies
drag losses try swimming while holding a plank
Elijah Sullivan
>The source, who made a point of saying that both pilots were women They were prolly looking for the oven to check if the roast is done
Kevin Torres
It was an A320. They're not crap
Wyatt White
Carlos!
Henry King
>this flag
Jonathan Nguyen
What are you, a retard?
Jace Sanchez
It's not as bad as landing a plane and forgetting to lower the undercarriage.
Evan White
1. You get a warning light and a message on your flight computer 2. You get a warning sound in the cockpit 3. You can clearly see that the aircraft isnt accelerating well
Holy shit, how is that even possible?
Henry Bailey
best reply
Connor Cruz
You don't see it while staring at your iPhone.
Camden Murphy
>Air India
Alexander Edwards
Literally can't trust my girl to cook chicken let alone fly a plane
Easton Anderson
I can't believe there wasn't an alarm or something to indicate the wheels were still down.
>“brand new Airbus A320” How the fuck can you not notice the incessant 'gear up' notice? >looked it up, it's three green triangles on the landing gear indicator panel right in the middle of the console Not exactly a vote of confidence if both pilots can't even notice that, were they doing their nails or having a tickle-fight?
Andrew Foster
This is exactly how my wife would fly a fucking plane. Women should be wiping snotty noses and leave real work to the men!
William Ross
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Blake Butler
>dont you get huge warning light if you forget to retract landing gear There are 3 indicators (one for each nose, right, left main) front and center telling you the gear is down, it seems unfathomable not to notice.
William Murphy
u good but still macaco
Eli Parker
Operators become prone to this kind of shit when both the training and operations are procedure based, you shut off your brain and go through a checklist instead of thinking through what you are doing. It becomes easy as hell to miss a step/ shut out environmental awareness when you think your ass is covered because you followed step by step instructions and think you got the appropriate feedback from your instruments.
This kind of fits right into the way girls learn and do things on paper vs boys who learn through hands on work and environmental feedback and then the paperwork is the last step in the process.
Expect to see more of this in the future.
Daniel Russell
damn, i wanna play how many quarters?
Jacob Jones
>air India Stopped reading there. Who cares?
Jacob Rogers
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Caleb Morgan
>how many quarters? Zero: flightgear.org is your friend (I used to be in the dev team)
I had a go at landing a Lockheed C-130 Hercules in a real flight simulator many moons ago at Såtenäs airbase. Failed. Slid off the runway. But that old bird doesn't have these fancy new autolanding systems. You have to fly it manually all the way down to your inevitable death. Didn't have to do the approach though. Simulation started inline with the runway at appropriate height and speed.
Ryder Johnson
Lol it's like a woman driving her car around with all the doors still open.
Jose Foster
Should have installed Gentoo
Hunter Hernandez
check engine lights are a ploy by the car companies to get you to see a mechanic, even though there isn't anything wrong
Elijah Clark
neat but i was making a joke about going to the arcade to play with this
Oliver Sanders
Passenger drones when? This would never happen with a computer doing the flying.
Caleb Young
Why don't you try to read controls and flashing gizmos when there are poop smears all over everything smart guy??
I want to die peacfully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers did.
Eli King
>engine lights are a ploy by the car companies to get you to see a mechanic Very true. For 10$ you can buy a Bluetooth OBD-II adapter then download free software for your phone. Then in 2 minutes you can reset all the warnings, and see if they are serious or not. I just cleared an oxygen sensor warning on my old truck that would have made it fail it's yearly emissions test, saved me a bundle
Justin Cook
Yes
It wouldn't have an audible warning, but lights will be lit up corresponding the each wheel set
It's lucky the wheels didn't break from the airspeed and they bellied out on landing
lmao so i can shit on the tile just to the right? india sounds fun
Connor James
can you even read?
James Nelson
Is this bait, or a classic example of >American education?
Benjamin Gomez
>air bus >not crap
Michael Ward
> Those stains behind the post
Someone dont give a shit about the prohibition
Adrian Jenkins
planes are filled with just enough gas to make it to the destination to reduce weight and thus make it use less gas. the landing gear causes some more gas to be required due to worsening the aerodynamics and even if not much because the fuel is precisely meassured, it can cause the plane to run out of fuel
bottom half of the article is trying to distract from their bullshit by telling about men who've belly landed due to mistakes.
oh, look, men make mistakes too! these women aren't really retarded!
Nolan Turner
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Joshua Wilson
same reason they don't make cubicle planes
Jace Howard
Airbus is crap. Their rudders fall off in flight.
Aiden Lee
>pshhhhhh whichu wan yall white bois fuckd wit MY plane! dis shit aint werkin right pshhhh fugg
Isaiah Rogers
As a mechanic myself, I can only agree. My Escort had a transmission problem, the cable was a bit loose.
Instead of fixing it (P, N and D were not in correct order) I used Scrabble's letters instead which were perfect fit, placed them over the original ones when needed and removed after.
Problem solved and if a nigger tries to steal it and put it on reverse, he's going to have a bad time and ram into the house...
Why fix it when it turns out to be an anti-nigger device? Paid 700$ and sold at 1K$
Colton Phillips
are you really this stupid?
Carson Phillips
>diversity and equality wins again!
Isaac Allen
CARLOSSSSS
Benjamin Green
>planes are filled with just enough gas to make it to the destination to reduce weight and thus make it use less gas No, they always have a reserve for a hour of of linger time, taxi time, or in case the flight gets diverted. Have you never flown on a long commercial flight? source: ICAO >Per ICAO Annex 6, Part I, section 4.3.6 "Fuel Requirements," airplanes should calculate their required fuel quantity as follows (summary; see below for actual ICAO text):
Taxi fuel Trip fuel (to reach intended destination) Contingency fuel (higher of 5% of "trip fuel" or 5 minutes of holding flight) Destination alternate fuel (to fly a missed and reach an alternate) Final reserve fuel (45 minutes of holding flight for reciprocating engines, 30 minutes for jets) Additional fuel (if needed to guarantee ability to reach an alternate with an engine failure or at lower altitude due to a pressurization loss) Discretionary fuel (if the pilot in command wants it) General Aviation
For general aviation, ICAO Annex 6 Part II, section 2.2.3.6 "Fuel and oil supply" requires:
For IFR, enough fuel to reach destination, then alternate (if required), plus 45 minutes For day VFR, enough fuel to reach destination plus 30 minutes For night VFR, enough fuel to reach destination plus 45 minutes
Jacob Murphy
>It's lucky the wheels didn't break from the airspeed and they bellied out on landing
I think the A320 would give an audible warning for overspeeding Vle (maximum allowed indicated airspeed with landing gear extended), but as they were climbing and had the gear working as an excellent air brake, I suppose they never managed to get the bird flying that fast. Still, they ought to have noticed the loud noice and that the enginges were struggling. Not to mention the three green lights and the gear lever put at "DOWN". >old friend is an airline pilot >two of his former collegues were flying a dash-8 >one says "what's that noice?" >"yea I hear it too. weird" >"look at the engine power meters. That's a bit high, isn't it?" >"Hmm yea. What's wrong here?" >then they notice green lights for gears, but the lever is in "UP" wtf.jpg >slows down immediately in hope not not have damaged gears. >goes through checklist for "fubar gear issue" >suddenly *zzzzzz* gear goes up by itself again. >go to nearest suitable airfields and lands safely. turned out it was some relay that had fried
Austin Brown
Actually they are a ploy by the EPA to make sure your goymobile has all of it's gay emissions equipment in working order.
>Kara Spears Hultgreen (5 October 1965 – 25 October 1994) was a Lieutenant and Naval Aviator in the United States Navy and the first female carrier-based fighter pilot in the U.S. Navy. She died just months after she was certified for combat, when her F-14 Tomcat crashed into the sea on final approach to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72).
Jaxson Hall
>Putting a kitchen in the cockpit of an airliner German engineering everyone
Adam Nguyen
"""female pilots""" They can't drive cars, they can't fly planes.
Justin Smith
>Kara Spears Hultgreen >spend 2 million training diversity quota officer >diversity promptly destroys 40 million dollar fighter-jet At least she died and couldn't do it again
Ian Nguyen
>Air India
>India
Nothing to see here, folks.
Gabriel Diaz
They have to put ovens in everything
Bentley Lee
lol why is that so funny
Alexander Brooks
lmao, that's it. Vle for an A320 is 280kts (250 for Vlo/e and 220 for Vlo/r) and they only got up to 230 knots.
Like little old ladies on the highway.
Jose Ross
>lol why is that so funny because of this: >by the time Hultgreen's seat fired 0.4 seconds later, the plane had exceeded 90 degrees of roll, and she was ejected downward into the water The image in my mind is hilarious
Jack Nelson
Thank god they dont put landing gears on their spaceships or the indian space program would go out of fuel quicker than you can say spacex
Carson Murphy
>it was literally Amelia Earhart day 5 days ago >celebrating a day for a woman famous for getting lost
Alexander Ward
She fucked up the approach and tried to wave off and go around. She had no thrust though and her plane rolled upside down, she ejected but got launch directly into the water.
Gabriel Hill
>female pilots
Why is this allowed?
Aiden Smith
Guess women don't like stopping and asking for directions either. Not so different after all.
Ethan Watson
Press 'S' to spit on her feminist caused, "certified for combat" grave.
Jayden Edwards
Made me snort.
Jason Brooks
Your making us look bad stop it
Sebastian Gray
>women Nuff said
Ethan Clark
>not: i always knew indian girls were a drag.
Joseph Baker
Planes are designed to have optimal fuel efficiency at a certain speed and altitude, with the landing gear retracted. Change any of those factors and the amount of air resistance you face goes up dramatically, meaning you have to burn more fuel to keep up the same speed.
Landing gear has a *shit-ton* more air resistance than the rest of the plane put together, especially at increasing speeds and altitudes. Plus, they're fuck-heavy and it lowers the plane's center of gravity, meaning they have to keep pitching up on the wings to maintain altitude - and pitching up on the wings increasing air resistance, too.
That the pilots failed to notice a single one of these factors indicates that they were totally incompetent. You don't need indicators to realize that the gear is down when all that happens. It would be like driving with your parking brake on.
William Wright
Lol, women do that too though.
Gabriel Jones
>designated shitting isle >shitting or nonshitting section
Noah Morris
>It would be like driving with your parking brake on Which my gf did to both my truck and her car, ruining the e-brake. >didn't you smell the brake burning up? >couldn't you tell the engine was working way to hard? >how the fuck did you do it twice? I replaced the brake on my truck since it's manual trans, fuck her shit car. Women should not be allowed to drive.
Joseph Flores
>ejected downward In the 1970's, the Swedish Air Force made some modifications to the inner beams of one wing of the Saab 37 Viggen, without consulting the manufacturer about it. A number of aircrafts and pilots were lost when that wing broke off at high G's. I read one eye witness acount by a fighter pilot who found himself on rather uncomfortable low altitude with one wing sort of fallen off, how he was trying to sync with blue, green, blue, green, to eject on "blue" while his wingman was screaming: "EJECT! EJECT! EJECT!" over the radio as if he hadn't noticed that the world was spinning around like mad. He did eject on "blue". There is still to this day a noticable ditch in the woods from where the wreck ploughed down.
Christian Jones
"Hello this is your captain speaking: We appreciate you flying with POO airlines and due to a malfunction in our common sense we are running low on fuel
>The sound of a thousand shits descends into the fuel tank followed by cheers
>This is your captain speaking and we are now topped off and ready to land.
The plane goes into a low landing The designated shitting runways slow the plane down to a safe landing
>Please exit accordingly and thank you for flying on poo airlines
John Butler
Airline pilot here
That has happened at my company here in the u.s. as well
Shit happens. We have so much fucking shit to do that rarely these things occur
Just earlier today, my first officer (copilot) forgot to descend to an attitude we were cleared to because him and I were busy talking about shit
Jeremiah Bennett
>t. shit that never happened Roastie
Logan Harris
This is literally why aircraft accidents have reduced, doing a procedure instead of thinking. Thinking comes during emergencies, after the procedures
