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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Oh look, the fag made a communism general thread the very second his shitty East Germany appreciation thread got pruned

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" XDDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
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gommies.gom/1984/
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gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
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That was another comrade

Yes, very convenient. The very second the thread dies with only a single reply, another gets made seconds later, I am sure it is just a coincidence.

You are doing the Lord's work, cigány.

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Is of miscoordination of International Leftypol with Unofficial one. Nothing to worry about goyim.

youtube.com/watch?v=N5z-dt57XJU&t=11s

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why do you keep making these threads? Are you reddit? Leftypol? Genuinely curious.

His service to the revolution and progress.

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take off the snake you motherfucker

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Get in

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are you retarded?

HE its this loserthread again

learn to budget your wellfarecheque then you dont need to scream for more!

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tricked!

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ok, so yes

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If you want communism, fuck off and live in a commune. There is no state-wide communism without totalitarian control. Fucking retards can't grasp a simple story about farm animals and a century of history. Every commie fortunate to have been born in a free country deserves the chair.

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from "Debunking Economics" by Keen, who himself is a socialist/keynesian Jew.

WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?

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There is plenty of food in communism and everything society needs.

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lol tell that to muh 6 million holodomor victims retard

Love how capitalists argue with facts and statistics

...and commie tards argue with... well they don't argue they just sort of try to insult their opponents while getting absolutely torn apart

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Kill and sage all commies. Every single one of them.

you don't have to mention it
im a tumbler

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FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani egdelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:

1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.

2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.

2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.

3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.

4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.

5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.

6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx

7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.

8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.

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Viva la Revolution

9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7.
On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.

10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one!
You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.

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everything you said was useless
surplus "theft" has never been proven to exist
theft is also a moral claim. atheists dont get to claim morals

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Communism is Jewish.

Wrong, the maxim of a communist society is : "from each according to their ability. To each according to their need'', as you can see, we account for individual differences.

in case 60% of this board is full of newfags (it is), please put SAGE (lower case) into the Options textbox. This prevents your posts from "bumping" the thread, and doing so lowers the thread's visability.

Kys

yeah, good maxim, definitely sounds like it wouldn't be a horrible tragedy of the commons scenario. Good thing your fictional society is actually a post-scarcity economy, which by no means is a priori impossible given that humans will always compete for resources and that there are finite resources and increasing humans

pic related. Thank god we dont have unbridled white-man capitalism!

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I BTFO'd an Irish commie this week. He brought up the US's poverty rate and mentioned something about my people starving and I laughed in his face. "America's poor actually have an obesity problem. That's the difference, communism has regular famines, capitalism has fat poor people".

Why don't you just go back to cripple chan? Stop raiding our threads.

Jesus Christ you must be fucking retarded to believe that pic

please read the book that I've posted pictures of--Debunking Economics. Supply and Demand are theoretically unsound, especially at the macro level. That being said some of the properties of the supply and demand curves have real world support.

That is not how real Communism works.

Communism is Jewish and therefore inherently anti-White.

Why don't you live like a true communist in Cuba and stop using the internet?

The only people who will ever support you in the US in large numbers are college SJWs

What do you mean by "socially owned"?
How exactly is this implemented? The fact of the matter is that society is made up of individuals. The state is made up of individuals. If everything belongs to the state, then it means everything belongs in the hands of the individuals who controls the violence of the state.
The end results of Communism is absolute dictatorships where the most ruthless individual becomes the state. Mao, Kim, Stalin, Fidel, are the results of true communism.

either you replied to the wrong post or you're even more retarded than your political ideology indicates

>that infograph

Theoretically, socially owned means every retard gets to vote on how to use capital. In real life, commies normally have an aithoritarian one-party government, which breeds corruption, as happened in the USSR, India, China and Vietnam (who have both actually become quite capitalist, despite their Marx-inspired government)

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Not true, bribery and corruption are handed are not socially accepted under Communist rule. This are traits that are only found in capitalist societies.

Newfag guide to communism:

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Not true, bribery and corruption are handed are not socially accepted under Capitalist rule. This are traits that are only found in societies trying to right an unproven concept called surplus "theft"

>Not true, bribery and corruption are handed are not socially accepted under Communist rule.
Yeah that's not the historical record idiot.

>This are traits that are only found in capitalist societies.
Okay, wzll why don't we compare a world map colored by prevalence of corruption, and compare it to a map colored by economic freedom? I wonder which countries are the most corrupt.

"hurr durr gapitalizm evillz they brinz wazh you hurr durr"
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This is now a repilling thread post only repills

hello retards this is just my chance to tell you america is the best and you commie cocksuckers can suck on 100 hundred dicks

>know the true evil of capitalism!
>capitalism invented germs and exterminated the oppressed native Americans
>capitalism is why countries invade other countries and is responsible for all the war deaths!
>capitalism is responsible for all civil wars!
>capitalism did 9/11!
top kek you sure showed me the evils of capitalism

higher resolution (i hope)

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Friendly reminder to lolbergtardians and anclaps

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jews are totaly innocen-

>libertarian socialism
nothing to do with modern libertarians
>muh ayn rand muh rothbard
those are ancaps. Libertarians are statists.

>friendly reminder to nazifags
You're advocating shit that will never happen. At least in the US there is a history of Libertarian policy.

Also muh open borders aren't libertarian. See isidewith.com/poll/384434732# and filter by party. Only 4% of libertarians are for open borders