What is the point of centrism? It sounds a lot like apathetically sitting on the fence to me

What is the point of centrism? It sounds a lot like apathetically sitting on the fence to me

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I think both sides have points that make sense, so I don't identify with either side

there isnt one.

Nothing wrong with hearing out both sides if you ask me

That's literally what it is. Also arrogantly berating people for picking one side is an important part of being a centrist.

enjoy your herd mentality

Not wanting crazies on each side to fuck up everything.

I'm a centrist because I value order and stability above all else.

The centrists who hold no strong convictions are fucking retarded sheep that deserve to be gassed. Radical centrists want change and hold strong opinions, but those opinions are a mix of left and right ideas.

Yeah,maybe the cuckcentrists. But i'm an alt centrist aka radical centrist aka Africans have too many children centrist.

Centrism is the middle ground between "everyone should be gay, die cis scum" and "gays and witches shall be hanged by the neck until dead"

It's listening to both sides and seeing which you agree with more, depending on the issue. I don't like when people are radically one way or the other because you just completely cloud yourself, but sometimes you can't help but lean more towards one side sometimes, even if you are centrist.

When you realize your ideology sucks and you want to get a 70/30 or 60/40 cut of your preferred policies.

Centrism doesn't mean you're sitting on the fence. It means you believe in some points from both sides.

Centrism is nothing more than recognizing that the force of your convictions is in no way related to their value.

"I want to _____ Lacy"

muh dick!

I would consider myself a sort of centrist, but being a 1789-1797 era George Washington style centrist is now considered firmly right wing.

because if you are centre you can pick and choose good points from both. if you are far left or far right you accept all points even if you don't agree with them, which is retarded.

"Run an STD scan on"

is that a fucking casting couch

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this is the main thing Sup Forums just doesn't get about being a centrist

While some centrists may only be centrists based on indecisions about where they lean, I think it's more about rationally taking points from all sides into account,

I'd ram the shit outta lacy, sucks she has AIDS or whatever cause I'd plow the shit outta her cute little white pussy. Only really payed attention to her vids cause her tits were on display

This image represents a strawman and no centrist actually argues like that

There are 3 kinds of centrists:
Well thought literated moderate
Autistic coward epitomy of the neutrality
Retard who knows nothing, at all

centrism is just careerism

Footlick

why did someone edit the vibrator out of this picture

this

any kind of ideology can be careerism, depends on the job

And being apathetic is a pathetic way to be.

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because its degenerate

It's actually sitting, listening to each individual issue and deciding on each on whether or not you agree with it, and the ending result is on average a 50/50 split on right/left agendas.

True ignorance and/or stupidity, especially in today's world, is blindly agreeing with every single thing one party spits out.

It's what you claim to be to get fat titted feminists in your bed, obviously

In general life is nuanced and cant be answered with mindless ideology. Think about it. If your natsoc the logical conclusion is to kill everyone outside the top 1% of genetics including yourself.

Centrists are often just people who don't know the name for what they believe because of lack of representation in their government.

Its not that. I dunno if you'd call me a centrist but like I see the benefits of free market capitalism but also understand that without a certain degree of state intervention in terms of controlling natural monopolies, maintaining CPRs, and generally making sure that in this age of information overload, consumers are not misled and abused.

Meanwhile I believe in an egalitarian society and believe that what goes on between two consenting adults is of nobody elses concern. Yet I am opposed to the fascist ideals of SJWs and completely agree that islam is a threat to western society in all its beauty.

Ultimately I am not a 'fence sitter' rather I see validity in some topics from a left viewpoint, some from a right viewpoint, and think it's silly to keep yourself tethered to an ideology filled with bugs and irrational thought processes.

>But muh Ethnostate

Thank you for explaining the joke I was completely unaware

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There is no "center".

>Spence is a canonfag

Figures.

they are this thing that masterbates to africans having sex with small white skinned woman

Centrism isn't very well defined.
Individual topics have a range of opinions that each person can have. I don't think a fertilized egg is a person, but sucking the brain out of a baby 30 seconds before it would have been born is basically murder. Most people have a stance on abortion somewhere between those extremes.

Political parties shouldn't always represent individuals perfectly. Is someone who is Conservative in every way but being pro-Choice a Centrist?

Anyone who blindly follows another person, or refuses to pick any sides at all, is an idiot.

Benjamin Franklin once said he was an extreme Moderate, and by that he meant that every person should make up their OWN mind on every issue based on the arguments that sway them. Not picking a side beforehand based on someone else's opinion and making the other side try to persuade you away.

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>The centrists who hold no strong convictions are fucking retarded sheep
You've got it completely backwards. Being a centrist requires an incredible amount of effort to research things on your own and develop your own opinions rather than relying on a loud media figure to tell you what to think because you're the same party as him. If all issues were related in some way then I could see why people would align themselves to a party so easily, but they're not.

It doesnt take a genius to know that a hybrid system is the best system. Anyone who believes 'the free market solves everything' is as retarded as anyone who thinks socialising everything is a good idea. Same goes for anarchism vs authoritarianism. Anyone who thinks centrism is 'apathetically sitting on the fence' is a literal brainlet and shouldnt be allowed to vote

give a bowl of eggs to

to unite both types of people. People with high trait openness and those with high trait conscientiousness. It's the most logical position but the slowest in terms of progression.

Too afraid to stand for anything and they just want to protect the status quo at any cost.

Centrism is and always will be bullshit. If you were a centrist in 1917 your opinion is like on the insane far right in 2017. What fucking magic fairy whispered in your ear that the middle position in 2017 was the correct answer? Wouldnt you have to understand why we shifted left over 100 years in order to be able to make that judgment?
Order and stability are right wing values you fucking midget. The midpoint between order and chaos is still fucking chaos.

Observant centrism is the closest position to God himself a human can have.

It's not sitting on the fence, it's taking the best things both sides have to offer.

Here's an example of a smart centrist:
` Ban all shitskins, jews, muslims from white countries (right)
` Make cannabis and cannabis oil legal (left)
` Remove welfare for work-capable people (right)
` Remove welfare for breeding immigrants(right)
` Allow abortion ONLY if women has been raped especially when the rapist is mentally ill (left-right hybrid?)

the list goes on but you get the point

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Centrism is the final evolution of fucking autism, after it goes through its libertarian phase. The centrist fails to realize that his culture actually taught him an ideology, not "how to be objective", and so mistakes a moderate version of that ideology for centrism. It is literally the leftists favorite fucking trick and they all fall for it like retards.
You cannot doubt Progressivism "a little". You can't be half-progressive and half something else. You either accept progressivism or reject it. And if you reject it, there's no longer any "centre" to orient yourself around, you have to rise to the challenge of actually thinking for yourself.

Centrism would have been fine 50 years ago, as the focus is to try to maintain the status quo.
However, the left has done such a ridiculous amount of damage to society that we need a far-right solution to clean up the mess, before centrism can even be considered.

Being a centrist is not refusing to pick a side, retard. The center is a "side" by itself, it just because of the stupid false dichotomy that is left and right that the center position is called center: it doesn't fit in right or left. Being a centrist means you like some parts of the right and some parts of the left. That is not fence-sitting, that is standing for your own values without compromise just so you can fit into the "left-herd" or "right-herd". You may even call the the center a herd too, just to get the point across.
There is such a thing as a radical centrist because they strongly believe in the mix of right and leftwing policies they have chosen, and centrists have often committed the most violent attacks in defense of their political beliefs. So no, centrists are not fence-sitters, they just don't fit into the rightwing herd or the leftwing herd.

The point in principle is that there may be occasions when two belief systems are not mutually exclusive and absorbing parts of both would be more beneficial than dedicating oneself to a single one. In practice most of the centrists I've met are either just too frightened to express their real views or weak willed flip-floppers who follow whatever social movement seems the strongest but want to pretend they still hold an individualist mentality.

In many situations I do not find centrism useful, for example heath care should not be considered a human right, I will not compromise on that issue because a thing can't be half a human right and half a commodity, it's either a human right or a commodity.

Except the centrists have a herd mentality too. The vast vast majority of them are socially liberal but economically conservative.

All ideologies are idiotic. It means you're not thinking for yourself. No one has a monopoly on good ideas, many times both sides have a part of the issue figured out. Centrism as an ideology is also idiotic but if you call yourself a centrist when you really hold idiosyncratic views that don't align with any ideology that's a different story.

t. mindless ideologues.

Which is why I said you may call them a herd too. All groups have a herd mentality. Centrists aren't some retards that just want to keep the status quo.
Social democrats want a regulated but mostly free market and to move forward on most social issues (pro gay rights etc) but that doesn't mean that every social democrat is progressive on every social issue. The center is not just the status quo, it is pushing for its own values just like the left and right are.

But im a centrist because i like compromises to be made not because i dont take a hard stance on anything.

Its deeper than an x y axis. Both the right and the left piss me off.

What, other than picking not to suck a political cock? That's like asking me to side with a group of white men calling for genocide and demanding all government to fuck off. The other side is a mix of races demanding a cultural genocide and a mixxed group of mainly niggers run around raping and demanding the government control everything. Both are literally the most retarded fucks, why would I chose one or the other when I can simply say what is the best response to the problem? You are given a gun and told to shoot a man, a Republican will do it, A Democrat will shoot them selves, I would unload the fucking magazine and rack the slide.

Centrism is a meme label that combines a lot of different things. NatSoc is economically centrist, for example, but that's not enough to explain the whole ideology.
A much better term to separate complex political beliefs from normie-tier apathy would be syncretism.

There is nothing wrong with having nuanced opinions; what I hate is a refusal to take a side when push comes to shove, because you think "radicals r crazy"

t. centrist, purplepilled father

What about situations where a compromise would produce nothing functional? What about a situation in which a compromise will only be beneficial to one party? What if you are confronted with a group of people who will refuse compromise alltogether?

t.ignorant sheep
Every founding father of the country the flag you and I post under would be considered a "right wing extremist" in todays political climate.

The majority of people in any given population are centrists; they are moderate fence-sitters who will conform to the common ideological view as long as it furthers their survival. These common folk centrists are essential to the success of the society and must be organized to do so.

This is where third position politics ( aka Fascism) comes in. It's the radical wing of Centrism that leads the common man to success and prosperity. That is where proper Centrism can be utilized for the good of the nation. This current trend of YouTube skeptics who try to intellectualize moderate Centrism are just sniffing their farts over having a lack of opinion or conviction. They are useless people who will never accomplish anything.

The problem is that what you define as the center changes over time, and in the past 100 years, it's constantly been shifting left.
Regardless of what you call them, the so-called centrists of today are still just slightly less retarded liberals.

>"Hi! What's your name?"
>"I'm Laci"
>"and what are you gonna do today"
>"I'm gonna fuck a hard big cock"

Always hear these dialogues every time I see this image.

It's her normal couch, which I think says a lot about her.

>but muh dead antifa meme

centrists are just leftists in denial. ask a conservative, a liberal, and a centrist about any major policy and the centrist will always side with the leftist, only differing in degree.

Centrism is complete bullshit.

I have yet to meet a "centrist" that didn't bark liberal propaganda.

Sure, the "center" parties as they are called by the right and leftwing are now viewed as leftists but no one is hellbent on being centrist for the sake of being centrist. Centrism is not a goal by itself, the political opinions of centrist parties just so happen to not have all the same values as rightwing and leftwing parties and are thus "fence sitting centrists". It is stupid to play the right, center and left game. There are just different parties with varying values that are called right or leftwing. No values are called center values, but that is becaues no one is trying to claim to be the wise asshole who thinkgs that "the middle ground always provides the best answer". A "centrist" may have a mix of extreme rightwing and extreme leftwing views.

Maybe most centrists are just slightly less retarded liberals, but putting all centrists into that basket because some of them are like that is like leftists saying anything even remotely rightwing is nazism and white supremacy; it is just a stupid strawman. The center only shifts left because that is the perception of the public's political opinions, not because the values of those centrists have changed. If a centrist party changes its mind and becomes a leftist party then it isn't a centrist party anymore, but that doesn't matter to a centrist because they don't give a rat's ass about what they are perceived as, they only care about pushing for what they believe in.

getting laid.

T H I C C

you're wrong. labels change but ideology doesn't. a liberal in 1776 would be a conservative today, but the ideas are the same. on the other hand centrism is all about sitting in the middle of whatever the dominant ideologies are, otherwise it would be considered its own school of thought and not "centrism."

Centrists are nothing more then morally impulsive simpletons every political question given to them could change within a days notice, just change the scenario slightly and they will make a moral/political contradiction, it will conflict with other beliefs they hold.

that's why the end up in the middle of a political spectrum, they're indecisive.

A leftis would say the same, only that the centrist agrees with the conservative about any major policy, only differing in degrees.
Do you see your logical flaw here?

I want to rub her chubby cheeks.

Centrism means you're happy with the status quo give or take a few minor things.

Oh they are the ones who see's the flaws of both sides without bias and knows that both extreme ends has failings.

Its takes a whole lot more brain cells to follow ones own observation and to form ones own opinion than just simply following the set ideologue of the political spectrum.

>If your natsoc the logical conclusion is to kill everyone outside the top 1% of genetics including yourself.
this is one of the worst normie tier explanations of national socialism that i have ever seen

It IS its own school of thought, but the left and right just cannot swallow their pride and admit it. The "centrists" HAVE to be fence sitters in the left and right's eyes because they don't "pick a side".
I don't recall saying that a conservative today wouldn't be considered a raging liberal in 1776. If anything I said sound like that to you, then you are completely missing the point.

Not radical centrism.

I wanna lick her feet

that literally means you adhere to the centrist ideology. Centrism isn't ending up in the middle of the compass. It is cherry-picking the ideas and policy's you think are best for the situation

I naturally gravitated towards centrism because while I recognise the value and importance of the free market and capitalism, being a third worlder, I've seen how much it fucks over poor people, and I think that state intervention, while in varying degrees depending on the circumstances, is necessary

If I'm out and find a solid looking right leaning chick I can fuck her, and if I see some retard left cunt with hot tits I can hate fuck her. Because I pretend to hear them both.

or It's inconsistent moral imperatives you see both sides but cannot decide on what's more important and stay consistent with the decision whatever that may be.

If you see the sense in both sides, you conflict with both, no agree with both, you are at odds with yourself.

Not really.
Centrism means you that you know that a status quo needs to exist and be maintained for opposing political ideologies to exist. To know full well the disaster that could occur if the spectrum tilts fully on one direction.

They serve as mitigators of the extremes and represents a level ground for the opposing fronts.

I don't think that's what feer are for.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

*not agree with both

You want her feet resting on your face as you fall asleep?

>It is cherry-picking the ideas and policy's you think are best for the situation

This. Blanket ideals are for cucks who'd rather follow the crowd instead of thinking critically about each issue.

Yeh, feet are for fucking and cumming all over.

where do you get these pictures?

>you are at odds with yourself.
This is the problem with both extremes. They tackle a problem emotionally rather than rationally. It either goes their way or they throw a fit, they do not see their own failings.

So when they make a decision that would affect the whole of the system they disregard or ignore all the possible damage it could do.

When you can see both failings, then you are probably have enough functioning brain cells to come up with a solution that could benefit the entirety of the organization and would avoid conflict or a disastrous collapse.

When you are running a state that involves millions of people you cannot just steer in one direction and hope for the best. Every decision comes with more complications, those who lead must be flexible enough to deal with them as they come.