Can we all just agree America has always been wrong with the day it deals with Iran. Especially when choosing sides with strengthening ties with Saudi, and further straining ties with Iran under the Trump administration.
Hezbollah is based The Iraqi Army is based The Popular Mobilization forces is based Shia Muslims are based
Shia Muslims, alongside the Syrian Bashar Al Assad are our allies. Why does the west always choose the Sunni savages/ Saudi over them?
Christian Wood
Because Sunnis are allied with Israel
Brody Walker
this essentially. Though Iran and Shia muslims are far from white, Sunni Islam is the branch that has invaded Europe time and time again, seeking to conquer Christendom.
Jack Young
Yes
Iran is traditionalist, patriarchal, right-wing, anti-kike, ethnically homogenous, not sunni terror-exporters, and also decently developed for that part of the world. One of the most sane places on the planet.
Aaron Hall
VEVAK/VAJA has humiliated the CIA & Mossad many times.
Brayden Cruz
Horrors of the Khomeini years aside, Iran and especially Shias are pretty based.
Nolan Reyes
>Shia Muslims are based
Sage
Owen Rivera
Since when did based mean massively corrupt? Shiites are the lesser of two evils though
David Cox
Iran and Saudi Arabia need to be nuked into extinction. All Islamic nations should be nuked.
Brayden Moore
>right wing >ethnically homogeneous
They're not Marxist, but they're not exactly a bastion of economic freedom or individualism.
They're not Sweden, but they're not really homogeneous at all. Lots of different ethnicities and religions. But they all proudly share a common identity as Iranians, and abide by the Shia variant of Sharia in the commons while maintaining their own traditions behind closed doors. Like America before cultural Marxism, except with fundamentalist Islam.
Julian Diaz
>Hezbollah literally rose to not only fight israel, but the christian party/militia which only ever tried to rid lebanon of the islamic/palestinian influence. you would have to be the biggest cuck that doesn't care about christians if you're to shill for them. >inb4 but they protect christians!!! yeah, being a 2nd class citizen is never better than 1st. christianity died in lebanon the day hezbollah gained influence. kys.
Anthony Peterson
Listen you cock-guzzling Iranian diaspora shitbags hiding under Western flags
No matter how much you scream JEWS, no matter how much you hate them or how many thousands of years your Persian ancestors have killed jews, no matter how many propaganda Christians your shitty Hezbollah terrorists "protect" in Syria or how much bullshit you yourself put out that you're not radical muslims but based white Aryans
You will NEVER ever ever EVER ever ever EVER EVER
Be white
You will NEVER get me to like Islam or sandniggers I don't care how many fucking jews you kill
Your fucking ayatollah could go on TV RIGHT NOW and announce the gassing of 100,000 kikes on a live broadcast and I still wouldn't give a fuck
YOU'RE NOT WHITE YOU'RE NOT EUROPEAN YOU ARE SANDNIGGERS
STOP TRYING TO SHILL FOR ISLAM
FUCKING SAGE
Robert Miller
No shit. But nu-pol likes trump and Israel so.....
Oliver Scott
How is it the lesser of two evils?
Shia Muslims are not terrorising Europe through exportation of lone wolf idealogy.
Shia Muslims are mainly just dealing with wars based on self defense from Sunni savages
Shia muslims are not even the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils would be deciding to back Tunisia rather than Saudi Arabia
Ryan Rogers
>implying they're not literal aryans
Aside from the North Indians, Iranids of Central Asia/Afghanistan, Gypsies, and ethnic Bengalis, everyone else that claims to be Aryan is larping.
Aaron Turner
No they are like all mudslimes, terrorist pedo faggot scums, Iran shills need to leave
Adam Nguyen
>Iranids of Central Asia/Afghanistan Iranians of Iran were the rulers of Sassanian empire though as genetic samples show us. We have no genetic samples dating to Achaemenid era though.
Cooper Fisher
I really wish we could fucking ally together and completely wipe out these mother fucking shitstains.Fucking tired of the poo in loo shit, let's fucking exterminate these rats already!
Gavin Lee
Go poo in a loo, subhuman scum
Nicholas Ortiz
I honestly do not care if you guys hate Iran or not, think we're White or not, but my issue is when you start calling us Arab or Turkomongol rapebabies when evidence shows otherwise. I honestly do not care if we're White or not, but the fact is, we relate more strongly to Ancient Sassanian Persians than any other group. We descend from them, possess many cultural traditions from them, have a Zoroastrian minority in Yazd still practicing their religion, and ancient ruins + artifacts. It's not LARPing when modern Iranians feel proud in their cultural legacy, especially the Sassanids as I am saying.
Alexander Bell
check 'em
Josiah Sanders
Because Sunnis are the ones who show the world what Islam really is.
The world won't unite against Islam to eradicate it if you give more power to the Shias.
Connor Campbell
Yeah right 'modern' Iranians in Iran are Muslim scum, their are more zoroastrians in India ffs
James Jackson
they're quintessentially british!
Landon Lopez
Yeah because Islam is the enemy, not the Jew. If it weren't for Israel most problems in the Mid East and most terror groups wouldn't exist.
Joseph Torres
There are Zoroastrians in Yazd, Iran too... fucking idiot.
Isaac Collins
t. Paki Topkek, first they should learn to feed their people
Jaxon Green
>t. 56%
Kevin Flores
Both of them are garbage shit for brains.
Gavin Jones
1. Don't check your own posts fgt 2. Persians are about 60% of the population, how culturally and genetically different are the Azeris, Kurds, Lurs, and other ethnic minorities from ethnic Persians?
Adam Edwards
Shia was Socialist Tier, search about Khummus who still exist it seems like Islamic 20% Tax and other socialism tier. However Sunni was more Capitalist Tier. Look at Muslim Nation(except Iran) who has both Sect, Sunni Dominated Area always more richer and advantage economically.
That Because Sunnis doesn't Have a Leader, they was very easy to be manipulated.
Noah Hernandez
>Azeris, Kurds, Lurs, and other ethnic minorities from ethnic Persians? They all cluster with each other. I honestly think Lurs or Bakhtiari are the purest descendants of Ancient Persians, and they cluster with Azeris, Kurds, and Persians.
Liam Morales
Who says Sunni Islam is the correct path of Islam?
Maybe Islam, under the path of the Ja'afari Shia school of thought is the islam we should push
Ayden Williams
My point in zorastriansims as a religion is alive in India not in Iran the current Iranians are even more radical whatever remained of Iran is dead its generic Muslim country
Wyatt White
Well it's not like Islam's going anywhere so it's best to contain it in the Middle East. Stopping Jewery is much easier anyway
Caleb Thomas
come up with a better comeback lel
Cameron Robinson
My comeback was about of the same quality as your argument lel
Gavin Robinson
We're going to raze your dirtpile to the ground.
Brandon Scott
It wasn't an argument it was a statement :-)
Ryder Perry
>My point in zorastriansims as a religion is alive in India not in Iran You fucking inbred poo in the loo. How many goddamn times do I have to say Zoroastrianism is alive in Yazd, Iran? There is even a fire temple.
Jason Smith
Woah boy you got EVERYTHING wrong.
The Christians themselves paved the way by allowing free passage to the Israeli Army into Lebanon. If that wasn't bad enough, Israel made a puppet army in Lebanon that was nearly composed entirely of Christians (SLA). While Hezbollah rarely if never fought Christians, they had good reasons to go against the Christian traitors.
Christians are NOT second class citizens neither in Hezbollah territory or all of Lebanon. Don't talk shit about Hezbollah if you know nothing about Lebanon.
Jason Stewart
It's not that it's the correct path, it's the path that's extremist and promotes and carries out terrorism. By funding and arming them, it helps the world demonize Islam as a whole.
It's only a matter of time
Hunter Bell
No need to be so pedantic, pal :)
Camden Phillips
You faggot retard India has a larger zorastrian community than Iran fuck off with your Iran shilling when they allow those 6000 year old zorastrian cities to be explored then come tell me Iran is based, right now they are an average Arab country
Jace Evans
dirty faggot haji
Joseph Jackson
You idiot, there are no pockets of Germanic pagans in Europe that predates Christianization, but the Zoroastrians in Yazd, Iran have traditions, rituals, and beliefs dating back to Sassanian era. The fact is Iran STILL has Zoroastrians, and I proved you wrong.
>right now they are an average Arab country Genetically, culturally, and historically, you are wrong. Only Khuzestan has an Arab minority.
>6000 year old zorastrian cities Zoroastrianism isn't even 6000 years old, you fucking imbecile. Gosh, I think your brain is just poo.
99% of Islamist terrorist attacks in the West are committed by Sunnis
The other 1% is purported to be by Shiites even though they never claim responsibility and condemn the attack (I.e. Israel accused Hezbollah of bomb in Bulgaria with 0 proof).
The West has a dangerous addiction with Islamist terrorism. It knows that ALL Islamist terrorists are Salafist/Wahhabis, yet it does nothing to punish Salafist/Wahhabi countries like Saudi Arabia, and instead does 300 billion dollars arms deal with them. All of this started way back when Reagan funded Islamist terrorists to attack the Soviet Union, the West to this very day continues to fund Islamist terrorists and blames all Muslims for the acts of 0.0001% of Muslims.
Aiden Walker
not an argument. phalange had nearly all support from all the christian sects. their aim was to rid of the palestinian influence, same as israel's goal - so they took their support. don't blame them, no one else would have. kys spineless faggot.
Jeremiah Nguyen
>phalange had nearly all support from all the christian sects >no orthodox and armenian support >all support
kus achmed
Lucas Phillips
t.beady anglo
Alexander Scott
>zorastrian isn't 6000 years old Topkek, good job being an Iran shill the religion is almost as old has Hinduism which is 10,000 years old
Luke Gomez
t.abdul al londoni
Brayden Davis
Not even true. During the civil war both sides did some shitty stuff, that's a fact.
Muslims let Palestinians in and those Palestinians fucked everything up.
Christians let Israelis in and those Israelis fucked everything up.
Let's leave it at that, Hezbollah has clearly 0 beef with Christian communities today.
Brayden Hill
No, Hinduism and Zoroastrianism have common root in Indo-Iranian religion. Proto-Indo-Iranian migration occurred in 2100–1800 BCE from the area near Ural river near Andronovo. Hinduism is not 10,000 years old, illiterate poo in the low. It cannot be older than 2100 BCE.
Jack Ross
Forgot to say to look up "Sintashta culture". Both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism are derived from Sintashta culture of Proto-Indo-Iranians and it was passed along through their migrations to Central Asia, NW India, and Iranian plateau.
Aiden Russell
You act like that's a bad thing.
Islam, with the exception of a few hundred years, has always and will always be shit that breeds too many people and too many bad ideas. People can believe whatever they want in the civilized world but the heart of Islam needs to go.
Xavier Adams
>poo in the low. poo in the loo*
Leo Wood
>Muslims let Palestinians in and those Palestinians fucked everything up. christians did. they had no beef with them. they didn't even like israel and only late on (in terms of immigration periods) took their support. christians schools even taught about how dangerous zionism and israel was. this wasn't an ideological alliance. hell, gemayel and co didn't even want to sign that famous peace treaty with israel, which pissed the israelis off, until all muslim neighbors were on board first. good on them, i'd do whatever it takes if my country was in that much danger. even ally with a zionist. most european countries, and nationalist americans would do the same.
Easton Cox
If Islam is such a bad thing then why did your government make the biggest weapons deal in history with the most Islamist country on Earth? Clearly you can do deals with Muslims and trust them enough to give them powerful weapons...
Must be nice to be in your shoes, spend all your time insulting Muslims, while thanking them for hosting your military bases, accepting military deals, selling oil, etc. That's really the saddest part of it all.
Zachary Howard
The Mittani Indo-Aryan language is considered older than Vedic or Avestan because it has aika instead of eka. Vedic is supposed to to have merged ai to e and hence is considered younger. But if you take the word for seven in Mittani - satta, it is considered to be much later than Vedic. So some folks believe that this dating based on selectively chosen words cannot be trusted fully.
If you look at the Avestan and Vedic language you see that 'h' in one language has been renamed as 's' in another. There are people like Rajesh Kochchar and Romila Thapar who believe that the Vedic people migrated from the Haraxvati (Saraswati) region in Afghanistan and not the mythical Saraswati flowing underground through Rajasthan. It seems this replacing 's' with 'h' is prevalent in some parts of Rajasthan and Assam even today. One point of view is that it is not possible to find which one came first based on language traits. The seventh mandala of the Rigveda records the vernal equinox in Mrigashira Constellation pointing to a date around 4000 BCE - a fact noted by Jacobi and Tilak.
Again several Shulba Sūtrās declare that a pole star is visible. Since a visible pole star occurs only at certain epochs, such a citation gives a normal range of dates for that event. The astronomical dates put the dates before 4000BC.
That puts us at at least 6017 year ago.
The likely authors of the Vedas are the Haarpans
Bhagwan Singh, an avid writer on the Indus Valley civilisation, sees the entire Harappan ecology in the Rig Veda. He chides those who have been "using both their brains and chair to save the Vedic Aryans from the Harappan authorship". Now we have a continuous history of the Indian continent from 7000 BC.
Nathaniel Hughes
>Haarpans finds.
Take Mehrgarh in Balochistan as an example. This site is clearly 9,500 years old. New carbon-dating technology has suggested a 12,000-10,000 year timeline for Mehrgarh. Did Mehrgarh and Mohenjo Daro come after Rakhigarhi? Surely no one is going to buy such an assumption in a hurry.
Harappa itself is an early period find, that being 3,000 BCE or 5,000 years plus old. The other finds in Pakistan, and more recently in Afghanistan, point to a stable agro-based settlement people 4,500 BCE or 6,500 years ago. Hence we arrive at the date of around 10,000 years.
Jordan Miller
>America Nice try, Sharia May You suck saudi cock even harder compared to america
Angel Murphy
>phalange >kill marada leader, franjieh(christian) >kill dany chamoun (christian) >kill so many christian >all support
Jonathan Collins
>Must be nice to be in your shoes, spend all your time insulting Muslims, while thanking them for hosting your military bases, accepting military deals, selling oil, The saddest part is that everyone else hates us for this when we have no control over it.
Christian Murphy
I think that the Phalangist reaction to Palestinian activities in the south was justified, but to allow Israel to invade Lebanon and fight on their behalf? That's taking it too far. Muslims clearly did a mistake letting in Palestinian refugees that tried to create their own state in Lebanon, but for Christians to cooperate with Israelis as the IDF was brutally slaughtering Lebanese civilians was unacceptable. Christians did the same mistake those Muslims did, they prioritized religious faction over country.
Eventually, Hezbollah liberated southern Lebanon but the damage by the traitors was done. Lebanese Christians know better now than to trust Israelis.
Dominic Jenkins
Yes
Isaac Morris
The word aryan literally comes from "Iran"
We wuz literal Aryans
Tyler Jackson
they're Aryan dumb fuck
Jack Edwards
If only the anti-Muslim lads could actually stay consistent to their beliefs and not be hypocritical shitstains, I would have much more respect for them. But that's asking too much, because they have no morals and prioritize money above everything else, even their beliefs. So even if you hate Islamist terrorists, as long as you can make money off them, then clearly there's no problem with them being around.
Oliver Sanchez
True, actually whole of Lebanese Muslim support Phalange in Early about Palestinian Problem, but they turn against Phalange when Phalange kill so many Lebanese Muslim, even Gemayel got mad about this..
Sebastian Anderson
They used to be cool Persia, then radical muslims fucked up Iran.
Thomas Bell
>give terrorist country weapons to make the world hate them and their religion more >get a shit ton of money in return for our own needs
Yeah it is pretty nice actually
Colton Williams
you mean "radical" as in not kike controlled?
Joshua Perez
Everybody supported the Phalangists in the early stages, even Assad from Syria. They were the Crusaders that were going to put the Palestinians in their places. Everybody had high expectations for them but instead they screwed up bad and started killing fellow Lebanese countrymen.
Fuck you man...
That is precisely what I hate about you...
Good job, you're winning, it feels good huh? But your conscious will catch up to you one day, even if you believe all Muslims are evil. This type of discrimination and divide & conquer, the US will regret it one day.
Hunter Sanders
that makes us terrorist enablers dumb fuck
Jonathan Kelly
>different shades of shit arguing about which one of their goatfucker sects is better
o i am laffin
except bosniaks and turkic people, i like you guys
Bentley Carter
>MUH SHIAS ARE BASED HURR this is such a fucking retarded meme opinion
any reason you have to hate sunnis equally applies to shias
Nathan Reyes
The US has been that ever since Reagan brought over the top Mujaheddin terrorists to the White House, rest is history. There's no reason for you to be mad, you're winning, that's all that matters. Ignorance is a very powerful weapon that you've used on yourselves, now continue hating on Muslims because terrorism while enabling that very terrorism.
Brayden Cook
i don't care about israel. they wouldn't have stayed in lebanon. if you read the peace treaty part of it was them leaving. meanwhile syria's occupation of the land had no conditions. phalangists whether you like to admit it or not had israel by the balls in the long run with that agreement, which as i said earlier pissed israel off that they didn't sign it.
Jaxon Cook
>the US will regret it one day. this has been our foreign policy for quite a while now, and we regret it daily already. unfortunately nobody in the US seems to be capable of connecting the dots so we just keep trying the same stupid shit in the hopes that our OMG 4D CHESS strategy won't blow up in our face yet again. America is the wily coyote of countries.
Benjamin Cooper
>hating Arabs >following Arab religion They are the biggest cucks following invaders religion. They have shills everywhere to appeal they are the good Muslims. OP is probably one of them.
Matthew Turner
>if you read the peace treaty part of it was them leaving. >trusting israeli peace treaties nigga i wish hezbollah exterminated you and your family
William Torres
What? They're cucked muslims. Same as saudis. Worst of the worst.
Grayson Young
You believe Israel would've left Lebanon? That's where we greatly differ in belief my friend. Had Hezbollah not risen up to push Israel out, southern Lebanon would've remained under Israeli occupation just like most of Palestine. The Israelis aren't like the West, once their military invades, they consider the land "conquered" and it belongs them, similar to the status of the Golan Heights at the moment.
Also, did you know that both Syria and Israel were on the same side? Hafez cooperated with Israel and agreed not to cross the Litani river. During that time both Syria and Israel wanted a part of Lebanon, Hezbollah was a godsend.
>"we"
There's no "we", there's only you, yes you personally. Remember, what you know here, 99.99% of your fellow Americans don't. This wretched alliance with the very heart and source of your problems. Too bad you're one of the few smart enough to realize it and feel bad about it. Objectively, what you're doing is very profitable geopolitically on the short-term, so keep going at it, but the long-term holds other surprises.
Lincoln Morales
Still better than your shit country..
Michael Barnes
Irani Shi'a dogs are the most ungrateful. They were blessed because we brought them Islam, the beautiful din of Allah Subhanahu wa taala and civilized their barbaric nation with the message of rasool Allah sallallahu alaihi wasallam and these nasty pigs don't even follow the din, and they have slut whore women in America who don't practice hijab, and not even know about the din! Alhamdullilah we have Mr. Trump on our side supporting Saudi, and inshallah our brave mujahidin with the help of Mr. Trump will chop the heads and kills all Iranian kufr dogs and their Yahudi and Christian allies and all their kufr majoosi fire worshippers!
Camden Sullivan
>You believe Israel would've left Lebanon? yes, especially if they wanted that all important treaty signed, as they were literally begging for it. they were already retreating from areas where enemies had been eradicated/removed, letting phalangist take over. >did you know that both Syria and Israel were on the same side? i know all about that occupation too, although syria didn't offer any treaty that was achievable in order to have them leave.
Owen Ortiz
Better be a shit country than Islamic theocracy with cucked popularity
Brayden Campbell
^ this is what the average Arab thinks of them, yet the eternally cucked Iranians follow that shit bedoin religion.
RIP Persia.
Xavier Jenkins
Because Iran hates us and the Saudi kingdom doesn't, both of our nations have longstanding good ties with the Saudi monarchy, considering you fucking established it, so I don't see why we'd jeporadize that in favor of some country you only know about through memes from /sg/. Why the fuck do you care if Saudi Arabia has le bad human rights or whatever, it's not like you're living there.
Andrew Turner
>shia Muslims are based Every muslim regardless of sect is a cancer to western civilization
Logan Hall
then maybe we should stop fucking arming them to the teeth?
Lucas Bailey
Stay mad and Poo'd..
Carter Clark
>Implying Shiite Islam is not a thousand year covert ops to rally the idiot arabs/pakis/afghanis to die for greater Iran as a small minority ethnic group it reestablishes its empire over savages that are outbreeding most of the world.
Shiite Islam is literally Zoroastrianism. You should expect more from a people that gave civilization itself to you savages while continuing to make the second highest scientific advancements per capita in the present world, all while undergoing the largest global brain-drain for decades where a portion of its scientists are exported to bolster the scientific outputs of the very countries that it's competing with. All of this, while under crippling sanctions slapped on it by half the world just because it wants to enrich uranium so it can further its scientific output and export electricity to the savages around it so they don't feel compelled to attack.
Once the global economy collapses, maybe there will be thanks for insulating the Iranian economy from your flawed designs. Don't expect any gibs this time though, unlike your envious civilizations Iran doesn't repeat mistakes.So envious of Iran, that almost all of them literally larp as Aryans, no better than a Mexican claiming to be Chinese. It burns your soul that Iranians call themselves Iranian (=Aryans), because you want to be Iran so bad, but you never will, and all you can do is try to rub Arab/Turk into it and take away the identity of the very people you envy.
Jeremiah Edwards
>literally copy-pasted from kikebook kek the same shit pajeet "developers" do
POO
Charles Bell
>Though Iran and Shia muslims are far from white
Lol. What the fuck do you know about whiteness if you're pledging your allegiance to a bunch of fake Jews in Israel?
Charles Rodriguez
*as the relatively small Persian ethnic group reestablishes its empire over the savages that are outbreeding most of the world.